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  • Report:  #1179874

Complaint Review: STEVE TRACY

STEVE TRACY SCAMMER Illionios chicago

  • Reported By:
    FOOLFORMONEY — Garner North Carolina
  • Submitted:
    Mon, September 29, 2014
  • Updated:
    Sun, August 28, 2016
This Steve Tracy guy is the biggest ripoff of them all, if he was a millionaire why in the HELL would he keep posting ads on craigslist in order to gain 150.00 per person to set up a trade for you on the current market.  HE IS A LIAR and when you catch him in the lie he dont return calls nor emails or he will state not to call him until after 3pm and dont text or email him.  He states he cant tell which company to buy stock from but he tells you how to set everything up.  Once you have lost all your money he doesnt want to talk with you. SCAMMER BIG TIME. Here are a couple of conversations:

steve tracy <hunterstrading@gmail.com>  
Aug 25
to me
Rxxxx Cxxxxxxx is a small business owner in search of alternative non traditional funding opportunities, and Steve Tracy is a private investor (not a lender or investment adviser) and the parties have agreed as follows effective August 24, 2014 with this Agreement in effect until September 5, 2014; Rxxxx has paid Steve at $150 Authorization and Set Up Fee for purposes of contracting with Steve to help her set up a discount investment account at a firm of her choosing, and to authorize Steve to place and manage a unspecified limited risk options strategy on risk capital she deposits into that account, and 2)  The parties have agreed that Steve shall be due and paid by Rxxxx a "success fee" equal to 25% of any success defined by liquid funds available in her trading account on or before September 5, 2014 at 3pm CST, and 3)  Steve has not made offered any investment advice nor acted investment adviser, and has made no performance guarantees in contemplation or discussion of this Agreement, and 4) Both parties understand that timing and reliable communications are of critical essence to this isolated ventures success, and will handle their respective roles with these two essential ingredients in mind.  If this is accurate please call me once your deposit is made and received in your new brokerage account so we might get started right away.  I'm looking forward to an outstanding conclusion to this alternative business funding opportunity.


steve tracy  
Sep 1
to me
Risk and reward always go together our timing was off last week if you understand and accept this we can still succeed if you can't we won't I'm moving forward to the greatest opp of my life despite last weeks setback have a great lab or day let's talk Tuesday. failure is often a prelude to success in these ventures or a price paid before success comes

then all of a sudden after my monies are gone:


Teresa Carl <carlt513@gmail.com>  

Sep 15

to steve

Good morning Steve, I was under the impression that you were going to call me on Sunday afternoon to talk to me more in detail about the information on the stocks.  Also just want to let you know that I believe in you and what you are doing but I don't like when you try to fast talk me and rush me in getting off the phone, I also don't like it when you talk to me like I am a child (when you said "if nothing happens this Friday then I can go to next Friday or I can go to the end of September if I like") Now I think that was unprofessional and just down right rude..I am the one that is out 650.00 not you.  I have not listen to anyone about your rep nor have committed on any rip off reports about you.  When we first started this transactions or business you called me everyday and sometime 2 or 3 times a day, since I lost all of my money to the stock you choose for me and you got your fees you may call me once a week.  I am a little bit up set but I am more upset with myself then anything.  I don't want to feel like I have been taking advantage of once again by a scammer.  I not saying that is what you are but I am starting feel that way.  I have not seen a turn around or improvement in the last couple of weeks other then you keep telling me you will call me later and later and later.  Remember I had your back and did everything you ask me to do in a timely fashion.  Im just very upset with this whole process.

Thanks

Rxxxx Cxxxxxxx

here comes the bs:

steve tracy  
Sep 15
to me
Please stop emailing me as both your tone and version of things concern me.  You took a risk with me and lost.  Even after this I'm trying to help and allow you to continue.  Also please stop calling back to back.  I always return calls you don't need to call more than once. Lastly the markets dont care about your timing or wants, any more than they do mine.  If you want to continue our relationship ot will have to be on the phone and without the misplaced defensivness and mistrust that both offends me and seems to come in every communication while I'm trying to treat you as a friend without success.  No more emails please.  Have a great day.

me:I don't call you back to back and email seems to be the only way to reach you.  I only call when you say your are going to call me, when I don't hear from you then I call.  I appreciate all that you are doing for me.  I also thought you were my friend and that why I talking to you about my concerns, but I see now that I just need to be patient until you decide you want to call and update me on anything.
Have a Bless Day!!!

steve:In available for phone calls only after 3pm CST weekdays - not 2-230 please.  No more emails thanks
Sept 17th ---- steve:And I have asked you nicely to stop emailing me but you continue to do so.  I am available any day after 3pm, as I've said many times before, if you would like to call me I'd be happy to speak to you if you call, you don't need to call back repetitively, as I return any and all missed calls.  Correction to an earlier email, you have consistently called me, well before the time I have said I was avail to talk, and usually place multiple calls to me if your first is not answered.  No more emails

AND THIS SCAMMER HAS NOT CALLED OR ANYTHING SINCE!!!!

Caller: ALTERNATIV​E BUSINESS FUNDING

8 Updates & Rebuttals


Anonymous

Chicago,
Illinois,
USA

Money

#9Consumer Comment

Sun, August 28, 2016

 I have literally been waiting years for my full investment to be returned. I get updates from time to time regarding my funds but I it seems that I will never be paid back the thousands owed to me via signed contract. I am completely broke and destitute right now. But I know that he is surviving just fine. I hope to God that he starts taking this seriously and finds a way to make this right someday soon. Because it has ruined my financial livelihood. It has impacted my family and ruined my personal relationships for no reason. I have not pursued legal action over this matter. But I have lost all patience and hope waiting week after week month after month year after year. I know he has tried to make it work and wants to repay me but it is just not good enough anymore. There is NO excuse for the position I have been put in for this long. It is beyond ridiculous and I have lost all hope in recovering my money.


factsnotfiction

thetruthhurts,
Illinois,
USA

INDISPUTABLE FACTS FOR THE RECORD

#9REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, October 12, 2015

I am going to share some indisputable facts about my business model to rebut the obscene fraudulent smears of some people, facts that cannot possibly be refuted, and leave claims of me being a liar or a scam, ridiculous on their face.

1)  The first thing I discuss with anyone interested is risk.  Acceptance of small risk is the critical requirement for success.  We have a extensive discussion of the concept of risk and reward.  Scammers never do this.  Nobody has ever been given a guarantee at any time of any performance by me.  If I'm wrong please post my guarantee here I defy anyone to do this.

2)  Less than two months ago, three courageous small business owners in need (who read the internet smears but believed in me anyway), put up a combined total of $2,000,00 in account depostis (not a fee) and withdrew a combined total of $150,000.00 approximately 5 days later.  They are outstanding references, have become great friends, and continue to work with me today towards greater things.  Scammers never do this.

3)   I am not and investment advisor, and provide no investment advice to any individuals, on these isolated transactions.    I never ask for receive or have access to anyone's personal info (socials, dob, or bank info).  Scammers must have this to  survive.

5)  Everything I do with the select people I work with, is one hundred percent legal and legit, if not politically correct.  I have never been charged with a crime in my life for any of the activities being discussed, and expect that to continue.  Scammers operate outside the law.

6)  My only hope in talking with business owners in need, is that I can inspire them, not sell them.  I have recently taken to the practice of requiring an intro phone call, and then requiring a day for the person to consider the transaction, before making a decision.  Lastly, I ask them to call me back (not the other way around) or I will not call them, if they don't call me.  They are free to research me, read internet smears by people who don't know me, have never worked with me, or are themselves convicted felons who have pled guilty to multiple counts of financial fraud, like one person here.

7)  I never lie to anyone.  I tell my children, when you tell the truth you never have to remember what you said.  Liars, are always accusing others of lying, as they project their dishonesty onto others, and trust nobody, because they know that they themselves, cannot be trusted.  The person who started this thread, i refused to work with and told him so because I did not trust him, and he called me a thief, cannot spell Chicago, and this was followed up by a woman who pled guilty to 11 counts of felony financial fraud, who not knowing who she was, i foolishly worked with.

8)  Anyone can say anything on the internet, and this becomes fodder for the whole world to see, and the people posting their smears do so anonomously, on sites like this, to avoid liability, and hating on anyone they don't understand, because it make them feel better in living with their own miserable lives, and somehow vindicated by trying to ruin someone trying to do something great, and different, that involves risk, that they canoot posbbily understand.

9) My consulting business is small but growing quickly, thanks to some great people who believe in me, thanks for the inspiration.  To those who believe and trust in me, I am eternally grateful to you, for believing in me, despite the smears you smartly refused to believe. To those that don't, may God be with you as well and I wish you all the best.

 


FOOLFORMONEY

Garner,
North Carolina,

Steve Tracy

#9Author of original report

Fri, October 03, 2014

Really you have nothing better to do. She why your child is not in your custody. Some type of dad you are. Once again keep trying to figure me out it will not work. Since this you only way to communicate with me. This day forward I will not commit on any more of your responses. while you at it leave the lil boys and girls alone


thetruthhurts

Chicago,
Illinois,

Robin Champion Convicted 11 Counts of Fraud

#9REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, October 03, 2014

How many Robin Champions share the same home address and phone number as you?  The one who plead guilty to 11 counts of Fraud in 2003 must be someone who lives in your basement and also worked at H and R block like you told me you did?  What an amazing coincidence Robin?  Keep lying about me Robin, and I'll keep telling the truth about you.  


FOOLFORMONEY

Garner,
North Carolina,

Too Funny Who Has Custody of Your Child

#9Author of original report

Thu, October 02, 2014

Steve you must be guilty of something and that's why you tried to pull up something on me. But hate to tell you that there are four Robin Champion in my area alone and it's obvious you trying to scandle my name because you are a scammer and I'm not the only one you have scammed.  The truth hurts that's why you keep looking on this ripoff report. Grow up and stop scamming folks and trying to put charges on the wrong person. You are just upset because you got caught enjoy your 150.00 fee Mr Broker as you call yourself


thetruthhurts

Chicago,
Illinois,

Robin Champion Plead Guilty to Felony Fraud

#9REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, October 01, 2014

The author of this original report plead guilty in 2003 to 11 counts of felony fraud in North Carolina.  I always wondered why she used fake names in her emails, and why she was very hesitant to give me her last name.  http://www.dornc.com/press/jan03/champion2.html 

It's hard to imagine anyone who would plead guilty to 11 counts of felony fraud would smear another person simply because she made a speculative investment in hopes of raising business funds, that did not work out.  She claims the money ($500 while she claimed to make 100K+ per year) was "stolen" which is physically impossible because she had custody of her own funds at all times.  She says I'm a liar, but does not show or say what was lied about.   She says I'm the biggest scammer of them all, but no where in her complaint does she justify that either.  

Obviously, she is very comfortable lying to get what she wants as her felony conviction for Fraud almost 10 years ago suggests.  Also, bizarrly she makes some claim about "buying stock in a company" none of which we ever did as I made clear we would not do.  You can't scam someone when you have no personal info (social, dob, etc) and can't touch their money. I would advise anyone lender/investor/consumer to steer along way away from her and not get involved in a financial transaction with her.

 


FOOLFORMONEY

Garner,
North Carolina,

Steve Tracy ,scammer

#9Author of original report

Tue, September 30, 2014

He states he is not a scammer but checks on ripoff website daily...hummm..

then put my whole name on this report but yet send me an email after writing his comments about me and threaten to sue me...wow...people you make your on conclusions and read yet another email he sent to me asking me to retract my comments:

On Monday, September 29, 2014, steve tracy <hunterstrading@gmail.com> wrote:

I want you to know you have no right to lie about me as you did on rip off report today and I'm saddened that you felt the need to do so.  Through all of this before reading that I was going to help you when this transaction is done very soon but the exact timing is out of my control.  If you write a retraction so will I and we can settle this like business people.  If you choose not to settle this I am going to speak with an attorney about suing you for defamation seeking substantial damages for your very public false claims. Happy to speak with you directly at any time to resolve.

But I'm the liar

 


thetruthhurts

Chicago,
Illinois,

Robin Champion Can't Spell and Makes Up Facts

#9REBUTTAL Individual responds

Mon, September 29, 2014

The business woman (Robin Champion) can't spell and misrepresents the entire relationship and the facts.  She list's me under "brokerage company" when I was never any such thing and certainly never represented any such thing.  During our brief one month business relationship she entered into a speculative strategy to raise business funds designating those funds as risk capital and lost $500 while she told me her income is well over $100K.

All of this she was fully aware of before we started working together.  Despite agreeing to risk capital deposit only, and refusing my inviting her out due to attitude issues prior to the start, she continues to tell lies here.  Even after she lost the risk capital she put up for speculation purposes, I told her I would like to help her moving forward if I can.  Soon thereafter she began inundating me with repeat one after the other phone calls at times I could not speak and told her so.  For weeks I asked her to call me after 3pm and she refused, and instead she barraged me with insulting and threatening emails which I told her I would no longer read.  

Looking to be her friend I continued to ask her to call me (inviting verbal abuse and factual absurdity) as I was hoping we could continue, but her hostility, selective memory and false premises, made this impossible. I returned all her calls (she refused to call me for the last two weeks, and continually invited her to do so, which she refused).  Our agreement specificially states I'm not an investment adviser, and that she has received no investment advice of any kind, and her deposit is risk capital.  But she says I'm a liar?  About what? What did I lie about?

I only hope that any other service provider of any kind is able to steer very clear of this woman, because her word and agreement mean nothing, if things don't go her way she will terrorize you electronically while avoiding speaking to you.  She took a market based risk she knew very clearly was a risk, and lost, and after I tried to help her, but she continued her lies and threats. I wanted to help her and was willing to figure out a way and told her so, but instead she continued to harrass and threaten me, and I was not going to negotiate with someone making up facts, and threatening me with those lies.  Notice she removed her own name, so she could smear me anonomously.  You took a specualitve risk with $500 and lost.  You have a successful business and you told me you make over $100K a year, you know risk and reward go together, you have no right to lie about me publicly like this.  Best wishes to you and God Bless.

 

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