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Sun Trust Bank Changing transaction dates to create an overdraft Summerfield, Florida
I had banked with Sun trust for years up until recently. I did overdraft my account but they manipulate the way items are presented to your account in order to charge you more overdraft fees.
I had transactions presented as debt transactions from Dec 24th. which should have cleared with no problem. On the 28th. a check(that was post-dated) that I had forgot about was presented and they cleared the check before all the debit transactions that were previously shown on my account (online banking).
They say that the larger dollar amount items are presented first which I get but 4 days later? come on! They did refund me $70; not good enough!
I know for a fact that the check was not even sent to the bank until the 28th but they seen the opportunity and went for it. Instead of $70 in NSF fees they charged me over $500. In turn they lost a customer, and I will tell everyone I can about the negative experience!
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Southern Chemical and Equipment LLC
Sarasota,Florida,
USA
Do these things to keep yourself out of trouble.
#5Consumer Suggestion
Wed, February 08, 2012
First let me tell you that in over 30 years of having checking accounts, I have never had an overdraft or nsf situation. I have never paid a bank fee for either. Here's what works for me.
1. You MUST keep an ACCURATE checkbook register. NOT optional.
2. When you use your debit card, or when you write a check, IMMEDIATELY deduct it from your available balance.
3. When you make a deposit, DO NOT add it into your available balance until AFTER it is posted and shows as available on your online banking. Now write it into your checkbook, and add it into your available balance.
4. NEVER rely on anything but your checkbook register to determine available balance.
5. Never initiate a transaction that you do not have available balance to cover.
If you do all of these things, you will NEVER pay another nsf or overdraft fee again.
Discipline is all it takes.
commoncents2000
nashville,Tennessee,
United States of America
On Robert's rebuttal
#5Consumer Comment
Wed, February 08, 2012
For Robert - you must have posted yours the same time as I was. Yours was not showing when I sent my rebuttal. It appears we were on the same wave length!
commoncents2000
nashville,Tennessee,
United States of America
The truth
#5Consumer Comment
Tue, February 07, 2012
No one ever reads the Rules and Regulations their banks provide at account opening. I can assure you - this is NOT a conspiracy theory your bank has out on you! Your debit card transactions hard post depending on the merchant and how they run their transactions - some can take up to 3 business days to hard post - which can actually be up to 5 calendar days.
Your bank was not saying "Quick! Let's hurry up and clear this check (that she forgot about) so we can get one over on her!" You see, December 24th was on a Saturday. Monday December 26th was a bank holiday for Christmas. The absolute soonest a debit card transaction could possibly hard post would be December 27th. The average time for a debit card transaction to HARD POST is 2 business days. In your case, that would make it December 28th!!! hmmmmm....
I work at another large bank and can tell you that if you review your account activity (that you can actually use to balance your checkbook!) you will see a history of your debit card transactions clearing between 1 - 3 business days. Especially if you ran it as a credit (did not use your PIN).
Is it really the bank's fault that you forgot you wrote a check? And you "know for a fact" that the check was "not even sent to the bank until the 28th"??? Well, I guess THAT explains why it CLEARED on the 28th!!! Mystery solved!
The conclusion: You wrote a check and post dated it - (actually a bank can honor a post dated check, as it is an agreement between YOU and the PAYEE that is negotiable when the check is signed). Before it cleared, you spent the available funds that were reserved to pay the check. While those transactions are pending, the check hits your acct.
Tell everyone about your negative experience - but you may just embarrass yourself. The same thing would have happened a most of the other big banks.
Robert
Irvine,California,
U.S.A.
A few things
#5Consumer Comment
Tue, February 07, 2012
I had transactions presented as debt transactions from Dec 24th. which should have cleared with no problem
- They "should" if several things happen.
First of all the 24th was a Saturday, Banks DO NOT post transactions on weekends, so the earliest it would have posted is the next Monday Night. However, last year Monday was Christmas Holiday so that means that it wouldn't post until Tuesday night(27th) at the earliest. Yes this means that EVERY single debit you made until Tuesday at the cut off time gets posted overnight on Tuesday. However, it sometimes takes the merchant 1-3 business days to actually submit the final debit. So this means it may not be until Wed when the debits get posted.
A Post-Dated check means nothing. They can present the check earlier than the 28th, so if it was deposited anytime from the 24th to the 27th it also probably posted overnight on the 27th, giving you overdrafts on the 28th.
Next, you may be opted-in to "overdraft protection". You had to actually "opt-in" so it would be intentional. So if you are opted-in you need to go into your bank and opt-out. When you opt-out if you do not have enough currently available in your account when you use your debit card at a Point of Sale or ATM it will be declined. keep in mind that this ONLY applies to your Debit Card, the bank still has the option to pay or return unpaid any Checks or ACH transactions..and charge you a fee.
Now, you made the comment that you "forgot" about the check. Well that screams that you do not use a written register. So when you go into the bank to Opt-Out, be sure to ask them how to keep a written register. Then every time you make a transaction or write a check you can write it down and NEVER forget it again.