SwapSellTrade.com, Joe Richey, Wholesalebible.com ripoff promised twice to refund $500 for 1StepSystem, even after 1StepSystem ordered him to do so Hillsboro Oregon
In March 2006, I paid Mr.Joe Richey of SwapSellTrade.com (and Wholesalebible.com) $500 as his commission to join 1StepSystem.com, with him as my sponsor. At the same time I paid 1StepSystem (1SS) $97. Before the 30 day refund policy expired, I requested a $97 refund from 1SS and received it from them. Then I requested the $500 refund from Mr. Richey, more than once, under the terms of the 30 refund policy. He did NOT respond with a refund. I Then contacted 1SS several times through their "HelpDesk". 1SS told Mr. Richey, more than once, to refund the $500. 1StepSystem, then told Mr.Richey if he did not refund me, that they would suspend and terminate his membership.
On May 15, 2006, Mr. Richey was then suspended and terminated, and 1SS emailed me, "there was nothing else they could do for me".
I contacted Mr.Richey, by email and by fax at least 8 times, with no $500 refund made to me. I even offered to take my $500 as product purchases from him, but he didnot respond. Now, I want my $500, my offer of product no longer is valid. Show Me The MONEY.
Francis
Macomb, Michigan
U.S.A.
9 Updates & Rebuttals
Stacey
Tualatin,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Still No Response
#10UPDATE Employee
Mon, September 18, 2006
Hello,
I still have not received a response from you Francis. Honestly, I don't want to be childish here but here is my take on the situation Francis.
I believe you did indeed purchase from our company, at which time you were new to the industry and/or thought you were going to pull a fast one and see if you could make a quick buck.
When you couldn't do this, you prompty cried wolf and said you were scammed. I see so many people come online and think they are easily going to do this or that.
Working online is the same as any other business and/or job. It takes, time, effort, and a lot of patience and passion to become successful. Its no easy walk in the park.
I know as I have been working online for well over 4 years now and supporting my children all by myself. So yes i know the dedication it takes to become successful. :)
You should really take the time to join some of the online forums like the warrior forum or read up on blogs of successful marketers. You will learn a lot about the industry.
I am sorry that some people don't realize its not a walk in the park. Anway, I also wanted to address some of the responses I have received.
We are not now or have ever been the owners of dropshipdesign.com. I keep getting requests for refunds from people for this company. They are not associated with swapselltrade.com and I think this where some of the confusion is.
Anyway, I am still here to help you out if you did indeed purchase something from swapselltrade.com and feel that you are due a refund.
Thanks and have a great week!
Stacey
Stacey
Tualatin,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Still No Response
#10UPDATE Employee
Mon, September 18, 2006
Hello,
I still have not received a response from you Francis. Honestly, I don't want to be childish here but here is my take on the situation Francis.
I believe you did indeed purchase from our company, at which time you were new to the industry and/or thought you were going to pull a fast one and see if you could make a quick buck.
When you couldn't do this, you prompty cried wolf and said you were scammed. I see so many people come online and think they are easily going to do this or that.
Working online is the same as any other business and/or job. It takes, time, effort, and a lot of patience and passion to become successful. Its no easy walk in the park.
I know as I have been working online for well over 4 years now and supporting my children all by myself. So yes i know the dedication it takes to become successful. :)
You should really take the time to join some of the online forums like the warrior forum or read up on blogs of successful marketers. You will learn a lot about the industry.
I am sorry that some people don't realize its not a walk in the park. Anway, I also wanted to address some of the responses I have received.
We are not now or have ever been the owners of dropshipdesign.com. I keep getting requests for refunds from people for this company. They are not associated with swapselltrade.com and I think this where some of the confusion is.
Anyway, I am still here to help you out if you did indeed purchase something from swapselltrade.com and feel that you are due a refund.
Thanks and have a great week!
Stacey
Stacey
Tualatin,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Still No Response
#10UPDATE Employee
Mon, September 18, 2006
Hello,
I still have not received a response from you Francis. Honestly, I don't want to be childish here but here is my take on the situation Francis.
I believe you did indeed purchase from our company, at which time you were new to the industry and/or thought you were going to pull a fast one and see if you could make a quick buck.
When you couldn't do this, you prompty cried wolf and said you were scammed. I see so many people come online and think they are easily going to do this or that.
Working online is the same as any other business and/or job. It takes, time, effort, and a lot of patience and passion to become successful. Its no easy walk in the park.
I know as I have been working online for well over 4 years now and supporting my children all by myself. So yes i know the dedication it takes to become successful. :)
You should really take the time to join some of the online forums like the warrior forum or read up on blogs of successful marketers. You will learn a lot about the industry.
I am sorry that some people don't realize its not a walk in the park. Anway, I also wanted to address some of the responses I have received.
We are not now or have ever been the owners of dropshipdesign.com. I keep getting requests for refunds from people for this company. They are not associated with swapselltrade.com and I think this where some of the confusion is.
Anyway, I am still here to help you out if you did indeed purchase something from swapselltrade.com and feel that you are due a refund.
Thanks and have a great week!
Stacey
Stacey
Tualatin,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Still No Response
#10UPDATE Employee
Mon, September 18, 2006
Hello,
I still have not received a response from you Francis. Honestly, I don't want to be childish here but here is my take on the situation Francis.
I believe you did indeed purchase from our company, at which time you were new to the industry and/or thought you were going to pull a fast one and see if you could make a quick buck.
When you couldn't do this, you prompty cried wolf and said you were scammed. I see so many people come online and think they are easily going to do this or that.
Working online is the same as any other business and/or job. It takes, time, effort, and a lot of patience and passion to become successful. Its no easy walk in the park.
I know as I have been working online for well over 4 years now and supporting my children all by myself. So yes i know the dedication it takes to become successful. :)
You should really take the time to join some of the online forums like the warrior forum or read up on blogs of successful marketers. You will learn a lot about the industry.
I am sorry that some people don't realize its not a walk in the park. Anway, I also wanted to address some of the responses I have received.
We are not now or have ever been the owners of dropshipdesign.com. I keep getting requests for refunds from people for this company. They are not associated with swapselltrade.com and I think this where some of the confusion is.
Anyway, I am still here to help you out if you did indeed purchase something from swapselltrade.com and feel that you are due a refund.
Thanks and have a great week!
Stacey
Scamreporter
Vista,California,
U.S.A.
Stacey, Stacey, Stacey one can only assume
#10Consumer Comment
Mon, September 18, 2006
Stacey, Stacey, Stacey one can only assume that you missed the emails that you are waiting for from all the people whom were on this board posting about Joes bas service.
The reason I came up with the assumption, is quite clear to me YOU HAVE MISSED EVERY POST HERE AS WELL.
If you cannot read these post, how in the HE** are you going to be able to read some simple emails.
Also, you are correct when you made the statement that the same person is using several identities, its YOU and JOE, you are one of the same people.
We all here lnow you two are FAKES and evertime either one of you being the same person respond, we will be here asking where your warehouse is.
I only want to know one thing Joe, when you log on using your other name "Stacey" do you play the part in full? That is do you put on a bit of makeup and a dress, so you may really feel like you are being truthful.
Stacey
Tualatin,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Please Contact Me
#10UPDATE Employee
Fri, September 15, 2006
Hi Francis,
I still have not heard from you directly Francis and I am beginning to wonder if it is one person posting with numerous identities. You can contact me directly at stacey@swapselltrade.com.
Thanks,
Stacey
Joe
Hillsboro,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Post your info
#10REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, September 14, 2006
Francis what is your complete name and address so I can look your order up?
Steve we love ya keep up the good work :)
Steve
Private,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
Stacy and Joe go to jail
#10Consumer Suggestion
Mon, September 11, 2006
Well Stacy, I think this said it all and said it very nicely. WHY ARE YOU NOT TAKING CARE OF FRANIS.
We are all waiting to see you offer him a FULL REFUND INCLUDING HIS SHIPPING and YOU AGREEING TO ISSUE A CALL TAG TO PICK UP THE JUNK JOE DELIVERED TO HIM AT YOUR EXPENSE TO HAVE HIM RETURNED TO YOUR SO CALLED WAREHOUSE!
Hmmm, on the subject of warehouses, when exactly do you plan on publishing the physical address of this fictious warehouse you and Joe claim exists? We have been asking for weeks now for the address so that it can be verified YET you do not respond to our requests to publish the address, why?
Face it Stacy, if the prospect of doing jail time doesn't appeal to you, you better get a move on quickly and turn your resignation into Scum Bag Joe and FAST unless you will be considered an accomplice to his fraud and scams and when the law finishes its investigation of him, you will take the fall with him.
Better think long and hard about it. Why did Joe hire you in the first place? Any idea? You just might want to ask him to come clean with you and level with you (then again would you really trust him to tell you the truth after reading all the reports from his many victims?)
Scamreporter
Vista,California,
U.S.A.
Stacy - YOU WROTE
#10Consumer Comment
Sun, September 10, 2006
Stacy - YOU WROTE
"Stacey Wockenfuss
Consumer Affairs
SwapSellTrade.com
P.S. If anyone else feels that their issues was not properly handled, please contact me immediately.
Stacey - Tualatin, Oregon"
Come on Stacey HELP FRANCIS -
YOU MUST BE BUSY, NOT ANWERING US!
A word of advice to YOU Stacey;
Before you try to clean up the 1000's of complaints against Joe Richie, you should first STOP new ones from complaining. And the ONLY way for that to happen is when Joes goes directly to Jail and does not pass GO! You know you two have a monopoly on cheating and trickery
I think all will agree here -