Complaint Review: THE TRUCKERS REPORT

The original poster is right as is Terry Fontaine's "Retired or Banned" comment regarding thetruckersreport.com (TTR).  I posted in the "Report Bad A Bad Trucking Company" section June 17, 2013, (five days ago) about CRST Expedited's creative payroll accounting procedures - with supporting evidence of how CRST increases its profit margin through illegal payroll deductions and the post has already been deleted.  Since I followed the rules and did not insult other users on the forum, did not use profanity and did not advertise a product or service, I can only assume that TTR is protecting corporate interests that it may be affiliated with (namely CRST Expedited, et al).  In other words, TTR is biased.  Anyone posting a dissenting viewpoint will have his/her post deleted even though TTR invites said viewpoints with the title of the aforementioned thread on its discussion forum, which is a tad contradictory.  The point is this... Wherever there's a contradiction between what is said and what is done, there's a big fat lie.  People are right for being suspicious of TTR.

By the way, regarding your comment, "If the OP feels the mods control the site it should take less than 2-mins with the search button to provide 1,000's of examples..." if posts are deleted altogether, how will your suggestion be accomplished?

--Ardent believer of freedom of speech (apparently the n**i propagandists at TTR are not)

   You have really confused me now, I don't use their site and I think they are as worthless as most dispatchers, and if 39 years is being a rookie I'm guilty.

I'm glad that you are getting a good use out of TTR.

You are of the new users, just getting into trucking.  For the most part, all of us old truckers have already left that post unless we're in the "cliche" with the owners.  Which means you can't be gay, any religion other than the owners, any political affiliation other than the owners, bisexual, transgender, l*****n, or anything other than the perfect people that you find sitting next to you in church that don't really need to go to that church because they are already perfect.

You will make friends there, they will disappear over the years with the mysterious "Retired or Banned" tag, and you will see what we are referring to.

As long as you don't mention any of the above topics, you will live long and have a good time there.  Just be sure you find the cliche and join it.  Otherwise, you too will be banned and retired in under a few years.

Marty I see you have no trust in the web, sorry you feel that way.

I have use the web in many ways and have been for years, as a business owner, engineer, and just a regular user. There are many sites that help you.

I see that you have no trust in TTR site and that is your opinion, and everyone has the right to one. My opinion is that I have not had any reason to bad mouth the site and have gain great knowledge about the industry using the site. Sorry you have not had the same experience. As I do with all things in life I take comments from other uses as a gain of salt, and make my own opinion on how many gains that our out there.

Thank you for your reply, and hope you have a great day
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Here is a little food for thought, why would anyone put up a web site to benefit you?

Not really sure what this guy is talking about? Have never been treated rude on this site, have gotten real good information from real drivers, some I have even meet.

Maybe it is your questions that you are asking, Like I have seen many times that people ask what kind of drug test are they doing??? If you are worried about that then you should not be be-hide the wheel of a truck to start with. I do not find this site to be a fake, and have enjoyed my talks with other drivers on here, helped me greatly with the CDL test.
 

   So now you have a problem understanding? Maybe I can type slower for you.
   I don't need to join any of those sites, simply because I know garbage like you is waiting in the wings to pounce, like anyone cares what you think. But on the other hand every once and a while I do join one so that I can tell my fellow truckers what people like you are about, and that would be control, but then you already know that.
   There was that slow enough for you? Don't you wish you could delete me now?

Marty,  I am sure you feel you are making sense but my simple mind just can't seem to figure out your point other than you have some top secret proof that I am a liar.  

But you have it all figure out and I am clearly nothing more than one of the 1,000's that are fooled by those evil people at TTR.  I would say that I hope you find a community that will accept your version reality but that would be a lie.  I really don't care.

Have fun.

   Now why should I waste my time when we already know you people at truckers report are a bunch of liars.

   Then that ugly little remark about me being a troll, call me what you like but I will always be here when someone lies for a living, such as you.

   Then there is the fact, and you should know this so you don't call people names, anytime you comment on something here the next comment automatically comes to your email, just like my comment came to your email. So again you have proved what type of person you are.

Marty, Thank you for the wonderful example.  Your post is what is called "trolling" on the Internet.  

You do not contribute to the conversation but only make statements designed to instigate a fight with someone. 

If you look at the post you are referring to, you can't find any "venom" (like yours) and it is in response to the person asking me to post something negative and see if it gets removed.  So I showed everyone a link to a section of people complaining about trucking companies.

Now, if you had made your post on TTR you would have been warned and the post removed.  Nothing in your post contributes to the discussion and all you are looking to do is start a fight.  That is trolling and you would be called a Troll.

If you continued to troll the sight looking for fights you would eventually be banned.  Now how fast that happens would depend on you history of the sight.  If you are new and all you are doing is trolling then you won't last long.  If you have been around for a while and just get into a disagreement with someone they will give you a little more latitude.

But if this is an example of how you play with others I can see why your where banned from TTR and I hope they keep it up.

And for the record, when I found TTR I didn't own my truck.  With the help of many on TTR (many that I have met and now count as personal friends) I was able to buy my own truck and build a profitable company.  And also for the record, the only advertising I have done on the Internet is via Facebook so TTR is not making money off me.

I see your back spewing your venom again, don't you want to rant about proving it? Anyone with half a brain can see what you are about. Are you starting to feel lonely over there at trucker report? Keep talking I'm still here.

So, what you are saying is go to the section called "Report a bad trucking company" at the following link.  http://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/report-a-bad-trucking-company-here/

You will notice that there are over 3,400 threads and over 100,000 posts.  Would that be a good example of what you are talking about?  

It would be a great example of what I am talking about.  1,000's of people that are able to express their opinions within the boundaries that the forum owner has set.  Over 100,000 people are able to participate and not get banned.  Heck, I am pretty critical of LS and while I do get plenty of Blue Star cool-aid drinkers coming after me I have never had any of my critical comments removed.

And if you knew anything about how sites like this make money on the Internet you would know that these sites make money by page views and clicks through companies like Google.    

Want proof,facts, go on to the truckers report ,And to report a bad trucking company here.Say whatever you want about any company,hell make s**t up.And than when the other so called driver's start to defend what ever company you was talking about.Post that you are now going to go on,the report a good trucking company here.And post something bad on their and the truckers report will banned and retire you for a fact!

I have definitely noticed serious problems with forums in the past 5 years or so.

I started out with ClassADrivers - and then somehow that site lost many of its posters, until now it is a shell of what it once was.

So I switched over to TruckersReport, and now the same thing is happening.  Of course, the archives are good, because they go back a few years.  But the real good stuff is gone, and not only warning drivers about bad companies, but even the Owner Operator content.

The overall impression, as someone posted above, is that there is bad in all companies, and good in all companies -- so, in other words, discount everything on the site.  Wrong.  People need to know what is really going on out there.

The real clue is to check the job postings and offers and jobs needed.  All these are way down in number, and old, old, old.

I am not an insider on these forums, but something has happened, and probably the smart drivers have wised up to the scam game and moved along elsewhere - where to, I wonder?

And it is true enough, there seems to be a bully mentality, so that simple threads are dumped on right away.  I havn't posted anything on these forums for years now, but I check in every once in a while, and I just shake my head.

The forums have lost to Facebook and Twitter.  That must be the reason.  Nothing but old dinosaurs as the mods.

Great words coming from one of moderators of the site.  

It's rather like going to a fast food joint and complaining about the management, and the manager chimes in and says, "Uhuh, I know from experience that all the managers are great!"

   Let me make this simple, like your cronies on these sites, you are a liar. That is 39 years of driving speaking.

This is a load of you know what......the problem is you, yea you the original poster. you feel bad and want to drag everyone else down to your self pity.  Get a life....

TTR is what it is......there are Bad forums and Good forums.  Forums are based on personal opinions, and as long as the post complies to the sites rules you can freely express you own thoughts.  However if you cause problems......they will give you the boot....just like most public sites, there are rules and wheather you agree or not that's life. Rules???? try driving a truck and not follow the rules. 
you'll soon be an ex-trucker.

I have made many new friends and enjoy the forums on TTR, as have several tens of thousands....and yet we have a few here on RR who feel they just could not fit in......and have some conspiracy they the TTR owner and mods are not tucker friendly.

My suggestion is join a group which has special interest, like O/O,  CB, Tech, Politics and develop a relationship with other members.  Or just troll the bad trucking companies and see the same stories over and over by the ex truckers who couldn't cut it as a professional driver.

   I was a little confused with that one,thanks for clearing it up.

When I said the site says that all companies are good and that all are bad, it means that there is information going both ways.  If one reads the threads about a specific company, one leaves with more confusion that when one first started reading. I have been an OTR trucker for 8 years.

  You said,and I can't get this word for word,something to the effect that they say all trucking companies are bad,and then you say they are all good.Could you explain what's going on there?I've been a truck driver for 39 years and I can tell you first hand most of them are bad.They have management that would lie to their own mother.But the great thing about that,is if they lie for you they will also lie to you.

  Just curious,what do you do for a living?

My own experiences with The Truckers Report have been less than phenomenal at best.

I posted a review that negated a moderator's opinion, and was warned to not engage the staff in a public disagreement.

What?

A few years later, I did it again.  Had a different view of the original poster of that thread, but I posted on page 46, and didn't read them all.

Banned for violating rules.

What?!!?!!?

Over the last few years, I've made many friends there.  None of them were still posting after I left before being banned because they were also banned for the most part.  I PM'd one of them that was not banned, just missing, and they returned (you receive an email if you select that option when you get a PM) and they explained that what the OP of this complaint said was their own views as well, and didn't have time to be looking around on a site that they could not post on without fear of being banned.

I see that, in response to this and other complaints on this thread, the response is using the same language types, punctuation habits, and vernacular.   This all leads me to believe that it is the same person posting multiple times to defend themselves with different aliases.

However, a person that attempts to defend their position by calling others trolls or rule breakers without addressing the specific accusations is defending without substance, and instead proving the point of the complainers that the moderators are childish.

Granted, some go there to cause trouble.  Those are trolls.  Then there are others who are banned like me... for having a different opinion.  

On the other hand, if you seek information on a trucking company, don't bother.  The site is full of threads showing that ALL companies are bad, they are ALL good, and the moderators usually delete posts that they disagree with instead debating on their merits.  The website is SO contradictory in all of it's information that you're better searching Google for the information yourself.

This site is out of control, not from "trolls" or "rule breakers", but by the moderators.  See the other complaints, and know that, as a user for almost a decade for being banned for TWO offenses in almost TEN years, that I am officially a troll, according to them.

Here is a tip for those that have been unjustly banned, and seek further information that they cannot acquire through Google:  Make a new gmail, hotmail, yahoo, etc email addy and just log in anonymously to acquire your information.  Don't troll them, just ask your questions and be gone.

Sorry, but you can be a cheerleader all you want. The website is anti-union and accepts ad revenue from those very same companies they want to "warn" people about. (Just not too much). They are not active truck drivers, but mere fronts for the various scumbag companies that exploit drivers every day. They espouse (look it up) the "lifestyle" and ban anyone with a difference of opinion.  Rah, Rah PAY ME LESS, is their mantra. And freedom of expression does not even have a shadow of existing there. Just more Rush Limbaugh n**i's.

  I just happened to come across this,yeah right.

who do you think you are talking to? Who are these "you people" you are referring to?  I came across this browsing through this site, and find the accusations offensive and not true. So I gave my opinion on this. I have zero controlling interest in any website. I am a truck driver. That's it. No more no less.  I was curious as to why someone blew up like the original poster.

I don't agree with you, but don't find it necessary to sling accusations. I may be a lot of things, but a liar is not one of them.

   You can make up your little stories about being banned and all that other garbage,but there are to many of us that know the truth.You people are there to control,it is that simple.You don't give anyone credit for having a brain except yourself.So keep posting your lies,I will be right here waiting.

I am a contributing member of TTR and have been for years. I am an over the road truck driver.  I contribute several times a month, as I have time, or when something catches my eye.

Any website needs money to stay online. So what if they get advertising pay from trucking companies?  That would be the appropriate advertising on a website geared for truck drivers, wouldn't it?

There are rules member on TTR have to observe, in regards to profanity among other things. If you don't adhere to the policies you may get your posts censored. It's happened to me, and no, I didn't like it either, but it's not my site.

Their are VOLUNTEERS who take care of the 'policing' of the site and they are not paid by anyone. I wonder what prompted your ranting on here anyhow? Did you get banned for violating policy?

   Like I said they delete it,and as far as me getting kicked out your right,for taking sides for people that they jumped on for no reason other to protect a company.As far as me being upset that couldn't be farther from the truth because I really don't care what you do as long as I don't know about it.But there is one thing that bothers me,that is bullies,and that is all you people are.You also call me a troll,I don't even know what that is,but if it is an honest person that takes up for people being bullied,then yes that is me.But we all know what a tool is.

   I join these sites all the time to just sit back and watch,and it takes all of 5 minutes to see who is going to do what,it's actually quite entertaining.But it also don't take long to figure you out.So you might want to give up on the proof kick because you already admitted that they delete stuff,so any proof that anyone ever had is long gone.

One of the biggest complaints of just about any internet forum is the volume of negative information.

So you are saying they are deleting it.  Give me the name of just one company you think they are protecting.  But you can't.  
I am sure they deleted everything you posted.  That is why you are upset.  They have rules and if you don't follow those rules you end-up being banned.  That is a good thing for all of use that are looking to connect, learn and share.

But nothing in the rules says you can't share what your feelings are about any company.  Many people do this on a daily basis.  Special sections dedicated for reporting bad companies.  Only editing I have ever seen is for trolls and language.

So, give me a company that you feel they are protecting.  And if what you say is true I will only find glowing things said about them.  But chances are that you are upset because your troll behavior got you booted multiple times and this is a sad attempt to lash out.

  Now that is one of the funniest things I have ever heard.You folks are in control of the site so any negative content gets deleted,who do you think your kidding?You really think that everyone is that stupid?But like the old saying goes,the proof is in the pudding,so all someone has to do is join your fabulous site and just sit there and wait.Sooner or later one of your volunteers will come crawling out of the woodwork because it is killing them to sit on there hands and do nothing.After all they have been given this great power, and paid or not, they are not just going to use it but they are going to abuse it.I don't have to prove anything you have been doing that for me for a long time.

Anyone reading this can easily find my posts on TTR and see that I am an active contributor and not just a corporate tool spreading the company line.

We are all entitled to our opinions and I have the added benefit of facts to back my beliefs.  If the OP feels the mods control the site it should take less than 2-mins with the search button to provide 1,000's of examples.

Now, it is an internet forum.  Plenty of rude people that add no value and tear a good discussion down.  But when it gets out of hand the mods will step in, edit portions of post if it violates the rules, sanction users for violating rules and ban the user if they continue.

Sounds like the OP had an issue with a company and felt the mods defended that company.  I have never seen that happen.  Have seen them take comments that go against language policy down.

Post the company and I am sure I can find plenty of links with negative comments.

   Either you are stupid or you are a liar, which I don't believe your stupid.I have seen people torn apart by your so called volunteers, with no excuse other than they can do it. Anything negative that is reported about the trucking industry and you people are on it like white on rice. Now you can sit there and be a corporate tool but there is to many of us that know the truth. You also have the right to defend who ever you like but don't call it something else. I would agree that there honest people on these sites that give good information that have nothing to do with the site, but the site is in place not to help but to control and I will die believing that.

I have been a very active member of  The Truckers Report (TTR) for some time.  Take a moment and review the 100,000's of posts on the site from all different topics and looking at the volume of contributors.

If yo do that, what any rational person will come away with is the the person making this complaint was likely banned from the site for being a "troll".  Something that the moderators (all volunteers) will warn about before deleting the posts and banning the user.

If you are looking to get information on the trucking industry with responses from real truck drivers and owners, this is a wealth of information.  

  There is also a sight, Report Bad Trucking Companies,I've seen them come down pretty hard on poster also,there is something about them that just bothers me. Also both sights have the very same trucking companies that people are posting about,advertising on there sight.

   You are 100% right,the people that run that sight are nothing but phonies.If you try to report a bad trucking company they try to intimadate you. But I personely think they are on the same level as 3rd grade school girls and I proved it to them so they threw me out,I'm so broken hearted that I don't have to deal with more liars in the trucking industrie.