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Complaint Review: Tina Hyslop

Tina Hyslop stold my horse,gelded my horse and attempted to sell my horse Kenockee Twp Michigan(

  • Reported By:
    Avoca Michigan
  • Submitted:
    Thu, February 26, 2009
  • Updated:
    Tue, September 29, 2020

On June 1st of 2006 at 2:30 in the afternoon , Tina Hyslop,Josie Lamere (tinas sister) and Latish Hyslop (Tinas daughter) pulled into my drive way with Josies truck and horse trailer.It should be noted that Josie Lamere was on probation for a larceny at the time of this theft (case #06p1846sm).They ignored My no trespassing signs, opened my gates that were chained shut ,removed My electric fence, broke into My barn which was closed and removed My horse from his stall. They loaded my horse into their trailer, and transported him directly to the amish in brown city Mi. Once there, they had him gelded! This horse was later appraised at a conservative value of $10,000.00 to $15,000.00 at the time he was gelded. They then hid My horse at Fred Fenner and Joyce Yeashevich home located at *****.It should also be noted that these people were aware that this horse had been stolen.

On June 2nd Tina Hyslop and Josie Lamere attempted to sell My horse at an aucion in Marlett but were tipped off that I was waiting with police,and turned around. My horse was recovered on June 4th of 2006 by the Mi state police and returned to My home where He resides to date. The state police completed a criminal investigation and filed charges with the prosecuting attourneys office.

The day this happened , I contacted My neighbors who witnessed what had happened. I made multiple calls to the st. Clair county sheriffs departments dispatch center requesting a deputy. Their dispatcher refused to send Me a deputy and instructed Me to confront these thieves Myself! After realizing I was not going to receive any help from the sheriffs department, I contacted the Mi state police. They were unable to help me at that time because they were handling a homicide in New Baltimore.

I started calling the sheriffs dept at 5:30 in the afternoon and at 11:00 pm at night had decided I would take the sheriffs dispatchers advice. I confronted the woman on the county rd. She two wayed her husband ( Willard Hyslop , a convicted fellon who confessed to sexually assaulting a fourteen month old child , giving this child genital warts case # 92-2730). Directly after that call,Tina called 911. From that point on every thing was recorded by 911. Thirty seconds into the 911 call Tina states " ok now the guy has a gun " What she failed to mention , was that it was her husband who had run out into the county rd with a shot gun pointed at two unarmed men having a verbal discussion with one of three people who had just stolen My property. What both these people were unaware of is that I was on My second concealed weapons permit, and only produced My fire arm after I seen her husband with the shot gun pointed directly at My brother and I ( It should be noted that the shot gun in Willards posession according to the Hyslops statement serial # R070940 belonged to their son Nicholas vermeulen. who was being housed at the sheriffs dept and is now doing six to twenty five years in prison for multiple fellony charges case #k06-685FH). I disarmed her husband , yelled at him for coming out with the shot gun and returned home,all of which is on the 911 tape which I retain. I and My brother were arrested in front of my daughter ,charged with fellonious assault . My hand gun was confiscated and the shot gun was returned to the Hyslops,( a gun in the posession of a fellon and owned by a fellon in jail) The deputies threatened putting My daughter in child protective services. We were interogated until 2:30 AM.

The deputies continually stated that their dispatcher would not instruct us to confront these people our selves and that we had not called the sheriffs dept. At apprximately 2:30 Am we were released after the deputies learned that their dispatcher had in fact refused both police presence ( a violation of My 14th amendment rights ,equal protection of the law) and instructed Me to confront these people myself! I later learned that the deputies who had arrested us had known Willard Hyslop from working charity soft ball events between the sheriffs dept and the Kenockee twp volunteer fire dept although these deputies were not aware that Willard Hyslop is a confessed and convicted sex offender. Yes My fire dept had known for two years that this guy is a sex offender and never told the public. They even went so far as to send him to My daughters elementary school to interact with our children at the school fun fair( which I retain a copy of a picture of Willard on top of the fire truck at the school surrounded by children signed and dated by the parent who took it !) Do'nt worry shortly afterwords I attended My board meeting and informed the public. He was removed shortly after , although some of our fire fighters supported him. And our assistant fire chief Adam Monroe tried to brush Me under the rug by taking My name and phone number and never calling!

After being released the charges were dropped on My brother and I. My gun was returned to Me and I given My third concealed weapons permit. I have continually pursued criminal charges for all the people involved with My prosecuting attourney ( Michael Wendling , who refuses to prosecute them. MR. Wendling states that He knows I owned the horse (property) at the time of the theft and has acknowledged that what they did was illegal but will not prosecute them because of the way I handled this situation ( It should be noted that MR. Wendling is also a volunteer firefighter for EmmeTT and was seen at the green wood twp hall having a conversation with Tom Skelton (kenockee twp fire chief ) and Willard Hyslop! My question is if I was arrested because the deputies knew Willard Hyslop previously ( good old boy justice ) and did'nt do their jobs, what are the chances that MR. Wendling also knows these people? I believe thats a fair question , Do'nt You? I just completed a civil law suit against Tina Hyslop ( case #K 08-000692cz ) ,in circuit court. I represented Myself (pro per ) and the Hyslops hired an attourney. I had god ,My evidence and the truth and won hands down. I also collected My settlement. But I now demand justice. Tina Hyslop is well known for being a thief.

I have a taped conversation and signed statement from a person in green wood twp who found tina hyslop in his barn holding a lead line in 2004. He states there is no doubt in his mind that she was attempting to steal his horse. Tinas blue dodge and horse trailer were parked at the end of his drive way on the road. If you have any suggestions for prosecution please tell me. And please inform any one You know that is into horses to stay away from these people! Thank You. Danny

Danny
Avoca, Michigan
U.S.A.

11 Updates & Rebuttals


Karma

Avoca,
Michigan,
United States

Hyslops are still at it

#12Consumer Comment

Tue, September 29, 2020

These people are gross in every way. They had to surrender 81 dogs (yes, you read that right!) to animal control after a warrant was executed due to the poor living quality outside AND inside the house and the mass amount of dogs in their possesion without a kennel or breeder license as they are backyard breeders. It wasn't just Tina this time involved, its also her husband Will, bil Jeremy, and Father Charles. Rumor has it just like the other places they have been they have stolen items and destroyed property that does not belong to them, plus they are dirty hoarders.

This is the type breed they are. They are now living on vacant land in a camper, all together, (with more animals...) without water or sewer.... Don't listen when they tell the tale of having a home in GA, as this is where and how they live in MICHIGAN... They file falsified documents in the county, hide animals, and also like to lie under oath. Don't worry though, everyone (county,twps,neighbors,police, victims,etc) is done with their bs and it has finally caught up with them. The law is agaisnt them this time and there is many laws they have broken and is actively being persued against them(This is what I hear..). Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!!!!


american03pride

Croswell,
Michigan,
United States of America

I was In Millington,Mi at time of This Action......

#12REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, February 19, 2010

On June 1st of 2006 at 2:30 in the afternoon , Tina Hyslop,Josie Lamere (tinas sister) and Latish Hyslop (Tinas daughter) pulled into my drive way with Josies truck and horse trailer.It should be noted that Josie Lamere was on probation for a larceny at the time of this theft (case #06p1846sm).They ignored My no trespassing signs, opened my gates that were chained shut ,removed My electric fence, broke into My barn which was closed and removed My horse from his stall. They loaded my horse into their trailer, and transported him directly to the amish in brown city Mi. Once there, they had him gelded! This horse was later appraised at a conservative value of $10,000.00 to $15,000.00 at the time he was gelded. They then hid My horse at Fred Fenner and Joyce Yeashevich home located at *****.It should also be noted that these people were aware that this horse had been stolen.

On June 2nd Tina Hyslop and Josie Lamere attempted to sell My horse at an aucion in Marlett but were tipped off that I was waiting with police,and turned around. My horse was recovered on June 4th of 2006 by the Mi state police and returned to My home where He resides to date. The state police completed a criminal investigation and filed charges with the prosecuting attourneys office.

The day this happened , I contacted My neighbors who witnessed what had happened. I made multiple calls to the st. Clair county sheriffs departments dispatch center requesting a deputy. Their dispatcher refused to send Me a deputy and instructed Me to confront these thieves Myself! After realizing I was not going to receive any help from the sheriffs department, I contacted the Mi state police. They were unable to help me at that time because they were handling a homicide in New Baltimore.

I started calling the sheriffs dept at 5:30 in the afternoon and at 11:00 pm at night had decided I would take the sheriffs dispatchers advice. I confronted the woman on the county rd. She two wayed her husband ( Willard Hyslop , a convicted fellon who confessed to sexually assaulting a fourteen month old child , giving this child genital warts case # 92-2730). Directly after that call,Tina called 911. From that point on every thing was recorded by 911. Thirty seconds into the 911 call Tina states " ok now the guy has a gun " What she failed to mention , was that it was her husband who had run out into the county rd with a shot gun pointed at two unarmed men having a verbal discussion with one of three people who had just stolen My property.

What both these people were unaware of is that I was on My second concealed weapons permit, and only produced My fire arm after I seen her husband with the shot gun pointed directly at My brother and I ( It should be noted that the shot gun in Willards posession according to the Hyslops statement serial # R070940 belonged to their son Nicholas vermeulen. who was being housed at the sheriffs dept and is now doing six to twenty five years in prison for multiple fellony charges case #k06-685FH). I disarmed her husband , yelled at him for coming out with the shot gun and returned home,all of which is on the 911 tape which I retain. I and My brother were arrested in front of my daughter ,charged with fellonious assault . My hand gun was confiscated and the shot gun was returned to the Hyslops,( a gun in the posession of a fellon and owned by a fellon in jail) The deputies threatened putting My daughter in child protective services. We were interogated until 2:30 AM.

The deputies continually stated that their dispatcher would not instruct us to confront these people our selves and that we had not called the sheriffs dept. At apprximately 2:30 Am we were released after the deputies learned that their dispatcher had in fact refused both police presence ( a violation of My 14th amendment rights ,equal protection of the law) and instructed Me to confront these people myself! I later learned that the deputies who had arrested us had known Willard Hyslop from working charity soft ball events between the sheriffs dept and the Kenockee twp volunteer fire dept although these deputies were not aware that Willard Hyslop is a confessed and convicted sex offender. Yes My fire dept had known for two years that this guy is a sex offender and never told the public. They even went so far as to send him to My daughters elementary school to interact with our children at the school fun fair( which I retain a copy of a picture of Willard on top of the fire truck at the school surrounded by children signed and dated by the parent who took it !) Do'nt worry shortly afterwords I attended My board meeting and informed the public. He was removed shortly after , although some of our fire fighters supported him. And our assistant fire chief Adam Monroe tried to brush Me under the rug by taking My name and phone number and never calling!

After being released the charges were dropped on My brother and I. My gun was returned to Me and I given My third concealed weapons permit. I have continually pursued criminal charges for all the people involved with My prosecuting attourney ( Michael Wendling , who refuses to prosecute them. MR. Wendling states that He knows I owned the horse (property) at the time of the theft and has acknowledged that what they did was illegal but will not prosecute them because of the way I handled this situation ( It should be noted that MR. Wendling is also a volunteer firefighter for EmmeTT and was seen at the green wood twp hall having a conversation with Tom Skelton (kenockee twp fire chief ) and Willard Hyslop! My question is if I was arrested because the deputies knew Willard Hyslop previously ( good old boy justice ) and did'nt do their jobs, what are the chances that MR. Wendling also knows these people? I believe thats a fair question , Do'nt You? I just completed a civil law suit against Tina Hyslop ( case #K 08-000692cz ) ,in circuit court. I represented Myself (pro per ) and the Hyslops hired an attourney. I had god ,My evidence and the truth and won hands down. I also collected My settlement. But I now demand justice. Tina Hyslop is well known for being a thief.

I have a taped conversation and signed statement from a person in green wood twp who found tina hyslop in his barn holding a lead line in 2004. He states there is no doubt in his mind that she was attempting to steal his horse. Tinas blue dodge and horse trailer were parked at the end of his drive way on the road. If you have any suggestions for prosecution please tell me. And please inform any one You know that is into horses to stay away from these people! Thank You. Danny

RE:  FROM JOSIE LAMERE!!!!!!!  I WAS NO WHERE NEAR THIS COUNTY NEITHER WAS MY TRUCK.........TO INFORM THOSE OF THE LIE AN DRAMA DANNY HALL HAS BROUGHT ME INTO  I OPOLIGIZE. TO.I HAVE A 2 WITNESS TO THIS OF ME BEING AT 7373 CENTER RD IN MILLINGTON.THIS JUST TELLS YOU WHAT KIND OF PERSON DANNY HALL IS WHEN HE CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THE TRUCK THAT THAT REPO'D THE HORSE.


Dannyhall

Avoca,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

In response to supposed ? witness

#12Author of original report

Fri, April 10, 2009

My name is Danny Hall,and I am one of many families that have had our property stolen by tina hyslop and her family! The only response that I could think of for this letter that was submitted by no name , is that the only information that you have written , with any truth to it, would be My address and the fact that I trained police dogs. And here is a suggestion to You . If You expect to have any credabillity, with the people who read this , you may want to think about including your name (Tina). And include information (paperwork) that proves your case.The fact is that the hyslops have no information to prove anything. This is why My horse was returned to My home by the MI state police , where He resides to date and the fact that I not only won My civil suit against the hyslops (who I might mention had an attourney and I represented Myself.) but also collected My settlement the same week. It all boils down to this ! The Hyslops reutation is of thievery and lying . And here is an old saying that sums up any friends that they may have,(" birds of a feather flock together.). You will pobably have to go to your local party store and have them explain this to you. I would like to thank You for including My address,and would encourage anyone interested in this case to write Me a letter. I am very interested into speaking to the media outside of St. Clair county! For any of You that have been a victim of the hyslops or her sister josie please contact Me,I would like to here Your story. Have a nice day. Danny Hall
Ps. Rottweilers are very rarely used ffor police work in the US. And I have never raised rottweilers! But i am impressed with your imagination.


Witness

Port Huron,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

I was there and Hall will be judged by GOD!

#12Consumer Comment

Sat, March 21, 2009

First off, I was there when the Ingles made the deal of making payment for Dandy. I went with the Ingles and Hyslop when Dandy was being walked down the road to Ingles farm. I was standing right there when Hall walked his nosy butt across the road asking tons of questions about Dandy. He even was bragging how he raises and trains Rottweiler dogs for the police. Bragged how all you needed to do was get the dogs fighting by throwing puppies into the cage with a couple of the bigger dogs. Once they get a taste of ripping them younger dogs apart they are trained to do anything. He is a wacky job!!! So he is a LIAR about never seeing, meeting, talking or whatever to the Hyslop's before they repo'd Dandy. It was brought back to the Hyslop's by three people Dandy was being hidden at Hall's and was standing at stud and for sale by Ingles. I was with Tina and two others several times as witnesses when she attempted to collect Dandy from Ingles. He was missing from Ingles farm the whole time and being hidden. Another thing I was there the night Hall and his brother came on foot to Hyslop's and pulled a hand gun on Tina, then when her husband tried to scare them off not knowing who was attacking his wife at the end of their driveway with a empty shot gun, Hall tried to shoot her husband too. Help him at gun point- gun at his temple- and the other 2 people in yard and myself could hear him yelling are you ready to die mother f$cker!!! OVER AND OVER, until he heard the cops coming. Then Hall and his bro took off running down the road back to his house. This was documented on police reports and 911 recordings. As far as posting claim numbers, wow when I looked your family up you and your wife had some too. So frigin what, I think you need to quit making peoples records sound out worse then what they are. In addition, as far as Tine hubby goes, no she did not testify against him you dipshit. In addition, you only speak of certain things from that issue; you do not mention how the baby was never touched, that the baby had a venereal disease right from birth. I am sure you cheated on your wife some point in your marriage, but got lucky as not to pass any diseases onto her while she was pregnant. I am sure this is why she cheats on you now. You really should take control of your own family before trying to control other families don't you think. Life would be much more pleasurable. I see why Ingle abandoned their farm; I would too if I lived 50-100 feet from your doorstep after everything you have done.
As far as ownership of Dandy, well Tina bought that horse back in 2004, and his papers was transferred right after receiving them in 2004, not a year after Hall claims she stole the horse from him. Hall never owned the horse; he was merely hiding stolen property for the Ingles. Either way it don't matter, Tina told the lawyer since Hall ruined the horse mentally and physically she did not want the horse back, and if she did get him back she was donating him to another farm to keep him from ever being hurt again by Hall. There are tons of pictures of this horse from the day Tina bought him to the day he left her farm to go to Ingles, to after being repo'd. The only time the horse looked his real weight and UN scarred was when he was in Hyslop's care. He was a true 1200# and was well mannered. Dandy is also trained to rope cattle and ranch work. That is what he was raised for in Oklahoma.
As far as Hall, saying people all over are saying this and saying that, and about horse auctions. Well I go to these auctions, and the Hyslop's are treated like family at all of them. I see people around them visiting all the time at these auctions. I never heard about a bad issue ever. They all act like family there. I only have seen Hall there when he is posting bull crap writing that he thinks gets people's attention. Hall does need to get a grip and a life. He must be miserable to live his time on this planet harassing people. He needs to worry more about his own life, his kid that runs away, his wife that sleeps around, his temper and mental illness, ECT...
There has been a website started for Dandy (http://photobucket.com/SkysDandyStar) to show people what this monster did to him. In addition, since Hall was allowed to post phone number and such of Hyslop's. I thought I might add his here (810-324-2706) so people can go right to his place (7664 Bean Rd, Kenockee, MI 48006) and see for their selves how he cares for his horses. Hyslop's live mile west of Hall on same road. Acores people that know the Hyslop's already knew this, being he has been running this bull for almost three years. Dandy is skinny, probably has not had his hooves trimmed since Tina had them done on 6-1-06! Another thing, anyone that has raised and bred horses knows you do not ride them until they are over 3 yrs old and some wait till older. I saw with my own eyes Hall riding a 1 yr old baby horse down the road. I also saw this same baby horse at a younger age being dragged down the road while tied to a black horse. It could barely keep up and keep all four hooves on the ground. There were even marks on the road from the poor thing being dragged. Hyslop's need to ignore this person, and he needs to get a real life of his own instead of trying to steal theirs. I read his deposition that was taken by the attorney. Moreover, he admits has never been a breeder or raised horses. That he was planning to make big bucks starting out with Dandy. Well sorry to inform you Mr. Hall, but you was not going to make crap breeding a horse you had no title to and to mutt mares, you own that have no pedigrees. I think Hall is a self-center, egotistical jerk, shamed of his own life. You just cannot get over the fact that the Hyslop's have been raising REGISTERED and PROVEN horses for over 15 years, and built a good reputation of what they have produced. You obviously do not know a thing about horses. In addition, if you thought Dandy was valued at $15,000.00 you got something wrong with your head. Tina would have never sold him for less than that if he actually had that value. People in the horse business know what they have and what it is worth. You are no exception for the same rule. You might be exceptionally retarded, but you have no clue about livestock business. Dumdum another thing, Tina cannot steal what already belongs to her. Just so, you know this, every time you open your trap to people and post stupid non-sense crap in stores and such people are taking it all back to the Hyslop's. These people all think you are a moron and think you have no self-control. They think you must have had some kind of head injury or born this way to think people are listening to your bullshit. You cannot make people run your way by doing what you are doing because the Hyslop's have more respect by people then you could dream of ever having.
You really should think about going back to school or something. What you write on here and in other letters make no sense when being read. You cannot even check your spelling or grammar for Pete sake, lol I think you should qualify for help getting the education you really need thru government programs. I know they have summer camp for retards like you. You also need to read and memorize the US constitution and Bill of Rights. The malicious malice you have been doing will catch up to you. Especially, when you stalk and harass Politian representatives and their neighbors. I know there is tons I could go on & on & on about, but why bother. I like reading your stupid writing; it makes people see whom you really are. In addition, I do not care if you post a reply challenging me. I said what I had to say and that is all the breath I am going to waste out of my life on you. In addition, you really should stop creating Ad hominem arguments.
I speak with the rights of Freedom of Speech (First Amendment in the US Constitution)

(PSALM 50:10)All ANIMALS ARE GOD'S ANIMALS

(Matthew 23:28) Even so you seem to men to be full of righteousness, but inside you are all false, and full of wrongdoing.

(Acts 13:10) and said, Full of all deceit and all cunning, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

May god forgive you at the end of life...


Witness

Port Huron,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

I was there and Hall will be judged by GOD!

#12Consumer Comment

Sat, March 21, 2009

First off, I was there when the Ingles made the deal of making payment for Dandy. I went with the Ingles and Hyslop when Dandy was being walked down the road to Ingles farm. I was standing right there when Hall walked his nosy butt across the road asking tons of questions about Dandy. He even was bragging how he raises and trains Rottweiler dogs for the police. Bragged how all you needed to do was get the dogs fighting by throwing puppies into the cage with a couple of the bigger dogs. Once they get a taste of ripping them younger dogs apart they are trained to do anything. He is a wacky job!!! So he is a LIAR about never seeing, meeting, talking or whatever to the Hyslop's before they repo'd Dandy. It was brought back to the Hyslop's by three people Dandy was being hidden at Hall's and was standing at stud and for sale by Ingles. I was with Tina and two others several times as witnesses when she attempted to collect Dandy from Ingles. He was missing from Ingles farm the whole time and being hidden. Another thing I was there the night Hall and his brother came on foot to Hyslop's and pulled a hand gun on Tina, then when her husband tried to scare them off not knowing who was attacking his wife at the end of their driveway with a empty shot gun, Hall tried to shoot her husband too. Help him at gun point- gun at his temple- and the other 2 people in yard and myself could hear him yelling are you ready to die mother f$cker!!! OVER AND OVER, until he heard the cops coming. Then Hall and his bro took off running down the road back to his house. This was documented on police reports and 911 recordings. As far as posting claim numbers, wow when I looked your family up you and your wife had some too. So frigin what, I think you need to quit making peoples records sound out worse then what they are. In addition, as far as Tine hubby goes, no she did not testify against him you dipshit. In addition, you only speak of certain things from that issue; you do not mention how the baby was never touched, that the baby had a venereal disease right from birth. I am sure you cheated on your wife some point in your marriage, but got lucky as not to pass any diseases onto her while she was pregnant. I am sure this is why she cheats on you now. You really should take control of your own family before trying to control other families don't you think. Life would be much more pleasurable. I see why Ingle abandoned their farm; I would too if I lived 50-100 feet from your doorstep after everything you have done.
As far as ownership of Dandy, well Tina bought that horse back in 2004, and his papers was transferred right after receiving them in 2004, not a year after Hall claims she stole the horse from him. Hall never owned the horse; he was merely hiding stolen property for the Ingles. Either way it don't matter, Tina told the lawyer since Hall ruined the horse mentally and physically she did not want the horse back, and if she did get him back she was donating him to another farm to keep him from ever being hurt again by Hall. There are tons of pictures of this horse from the day Tina bought him to the day he left her farm to go to Ingles, to after being repo'd. The only time the horse looked his real weight and UN scarred was when he was in Hyslop's care. He was a true 1200# and was well mannered. Dandy is also trained to rope cattle and ranch work. That is what he was raised for in Oklahoma.
As far as Hall, saying people all over are saying this and saying that, and about horse auctions. Well I go to these auctions, and the Hyslop's are treated like family at all of them. I see people around them visiting all the time at these auctions. I never heard about a bad issue ever. They all act like family there. I only have seen Hall there when he is posting bull crap writing that he thinks gets people's attention. Hall does need to get a grip and a life. He must be miserable to live his time on this planet harassing people. He needs to worry more about his own life, his kid that runs away, his wife that sleeps around, his temper and mental illness, ECT...
There has been a website started for Dandy (http://photobucket.com/SkysDandyStar) to show people what this monster did to him. In addition, since Hall was allowed to post phone number and such of Hyslop's. I thought I might add his here (810-324-2706) so people can go right to his place (7664 Bean Rd, Kenockee, MI 48006) and see for their selves how he cares for his horses. Hyslop's live mile west of Hall on same road. Acores people that know the Hyslop's already knew this, being he has been running this bull for almost three years. Dandy is skinny, probably has not had his hooves trimmed since Tina had them done on 6-1-06! Another thing, anyone that has raised and bred horses knows you do not ride them until they are over 3 yrs old and some wait till older. I saw with my own eyes Hall riding a 1 yr old baby horse down the road. I also saw this same baby horse at a younger age being dragged down the road while tied to a black horse. It could barely keep up and keep all four hooves on the ground. There were even marks on the road from the poor thing being dragged. Hyslop's need to ignore this person, and he needs to get a real life of his own instead of trying to steal theirs. I read his deposition that was taken by the attorney. Moreover, he admits has never been a breeder or raised horses. That he was planning to make big bucks starting out with Dandy. Well sorry to inform you Mr. Hall, but you was not going to make crap breeding a horse you had no title to and to mutt mares, you own that have no pedigrees. I think Hall is a self-center, egotistical jerk, shamed of his own life. You just cannot get over the fact that the Hyslop's have been raising REGISTERED and PROVEN horses for over 15 years, and built a good reputation of what they have produced. You obviously do not know a thing about horses. In addition, if you thought Dandy was valued at $15,000.00 you got something wrong with your head. Tina would have never sold him for less than that if he actually had that value. People in the horse business know what they have and what it is worth. You are no exception for the same rule. You might be exceptionally retarded, but you have no clue about livestock business. Dumdum another thing, Tina cannot steal what already belongs to her. Just so, you know this, every time you open your trap to people and post stupid non-sense crap in stores and such people are taking it all back to the Hyslop's. These people all think you are a moron and think you have no self-control. They think you must have had some kind of head injury or born this way to think people are listening to your bullshit. You cannot make people run your way by doing what you are doing because the Hyslop's have more respect by people then you could dream of ever having.
You really should think about going back to school or something. What you write on here and in other letters make no sense when being read. You cannot even check your spelling or grammar for Pete sake, lol I think you should qualify for help getting the education you really need thru government programs. I know they have summer camp for retards like you. You also need to read and memorize the US constitution and Bill of Rights. The malicious malice you have been doing will catch up to you. Especially, when you stalk and harass Politian representatives and their neighbors. I know there is tons I could go on & on & on about, but why bother. I like reading your stupid writing; it makes people see whom you really are. In addition, I do not care if you post a reply challenging me. I said what I had to say and that is all the breath I am going to waste out of my life on you. In addition, you really should stop creating Ad hominem arguments.
I speak with the rights of Freedom of Speech (First Amendment in the US Constitution)

(PSALM 50:10)All ANIMALS ARE GOD'S ANIMALS

(Matthew 23:28) Even so you seem to men to be full of righteousness, but inside you are all false, and full of wrongdoing.

(Acts 13:10) and said, Full of all deceit and all cunning, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

May god forgive you at the end of life...


Witness

Port Huron,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

I was there and Hall will be judged by GOD!

#12Consumer Comment

Sat, March 21, 2009

First off, I was there when the Ingles made the deal of making payment for Dandy. I went with the Ingles and Hyslop when Dandy was being walked down the road to Ingles farm. I was standing right there when Hall walked his nosy butt across the road asking tons of questions about Dandy. He even was bragging how he raises and trains Rottweiler dogs for the police. Bragged how all you needed to do was get the dogs fighting by throwing puppies into the cage with a couple of the bigger dogs. Once they get a taste of ripping them younger dogs apart they are trained to do anything. He is a wacky job!!! So he is a LIAR about never seeing, meeting, talking or whatever to the Hyslop's before they repo'd Dandy. It was brought back to the Hyslop's by three people Dandy was being hidden at Hall's and was standing at stud and for sale by Ingles. I was with Tina and two others several times as witnesses when she attempted to collect Dandy from Ingles. He was missing from Ingles farm the whole time and being hidden. Another thing I was there the night Hall and his brother came on foot to Hyslop's and pulled a hand gun on Tina, then when her husband tried to scare them off not knowing who was attacking his wife at the end of their driveway with a empty shot gun, Hall tried to shoot her husband too. Help him at gun point- gun at his temple- and the other 2 people in yard and myself could hear him yelling are you ready to die mother f$cker!!! OVER AND OVER, until he heard the cops coming. Then Hall and his bro took off running down the road back to his house. This was documented on police reports and 911 recordings. As far as posting claim numbers, wow when I looked your family up you and your wife had some too. So frigin what, I think you need to quit making peoples records sound out worse then what they are. In addition, as far as Tine hubby goes, no she did not testify against him you dipshit. In addition, you only speak of certain things from that issue; you do not mention how the baby was never touched, that the baby had a venereal disease right from birth. I am sure you cheated on your wife some point in your marriage, but got lucky as not to pass any diseases onto her while she was pregnant. I am sure this is why she cheats on you now. You really should take control of your own family before trying to control other families don't you think. Life would be much more pleasurable. I see why Ingle abandoned their farm; I would too if I lived 50-100 feet from your doorstep after everything you have done.
As far as ownership of Dandy, well Tina bought that horse back in 2004, and his papers was transferred right after receiving them in 2004, not a year after Hall claims she stole the horse from him. Hall never owned the horse; he was merely hiding stolen property for the Ingles. Either way it don't matter, Tina told the lawyer since Hall ruined the horse mentally and physically she did not want the horse back, and if she did get him back she was donating him to another farm to keep him from ever being hurt again by Hall. There are tons of pictures of this horse from the day Tina bought him to the day he left her farm to go to Ingles, to after being repo'd. The only time the horse looked his real weight and UN scarred was when he was in Hyslop's care. He was a true 1200# and was well mannered. Dandy is also trained to rope cattle and ranch work. That is what he was raised for in Oklahoma.
As far as Hall, saying people all over are saying this and saying that, and about horse auctions. Well I go to these auctions, and the Hyslop's are treated like family at all of them. I see people around them visiting all the time at these auctions. I never heard about a bad issue ever. They all act like family there. I only have seen Hall there when he is posting bull crap writing that he thinks gets people's attention. Hall does need to get a grip and a life. He must be miserable to live his time on this planet harassing people. He needs to worry more about his own life, his kid that runs away, his wife that sleeps around, his temper and mental illness, ECT...
There has been a website started for Dandy (http://photobucket.com/SkysDandyStar) to show people what this monster did to him. In addition, since Hall was allowed to post phone number and such of Hyslop's. I thought I might add his here (810-324-2706) so people can go right to his place (7664 Bean Rd, Kenockee, MI 48006) and see for their selves how he cares for his horses. Hyslop's live mile west of Hall on same road. Acores people that know the Hyslop's already knew this, being he has been running this bull for almost three years. Dandy is skinny, probably has not had his hooves trimmed since Tina had them done on 6-1-06! Another thing, anyone that has raised and bred horses knows you do not ride them until they are over 3 yrs old and some wait till older. I saw with my own eyes Hall riding a 1 yr old baby horse down the road. I also saw this same baby horse at a younger age being dragged down the road while tied to a black horse. It could barely keep up and keep all four hooves on the ground. There were even marks on the road from the poor thing being dragged. Hyslop's need to ignore this person, and he needs to get a real life of his own instead of trying to steal theirs. I read his deposition that was taken by the attorney. Moreover, he admits has never been a breeder or raised horses. That he was planning to make big bucks starting out with Dandy. Well sorry to inform you Mr. Hall, but you was not going to make crap breeding a horse you had no title to and to mutt mares, you own that have no pedigrees. I think Hall is a self-center, egotistical jerk, shamed of his own life. You just cannot get over the fact that the Hyslop's have been raising REGISTERED and PROVEN horses for over 15 years, and built a good reputation of what they have produced. You obviously do not know a thing about horses. In addition, if you thought Dandy was valued at $15,000.00 you got something wrong with your head. Tina would have never sold him for less than that if he actually had that value. People in the horse business know what they have and what it is worth. You are no exception for the same rule. You might be exceptionally retarded, but you have no clue about livestock business. Dumdum another thing, Tina cannot steal what already belongs to her. Just so, you know this, every time you open your trap to people and post stupid non-sense crap in stores and such people are taking it all back to the Hyslop's. These people all think you are a moron and think you have no self-control. They think you must have had some kind of head injury or born this way to think people are listening to your bullshit. You cannot make people run your way by doing what you are doing because the Hyslop's have more respect by people then you could dream of ever having.
You really should think about going back to school or something. What you write on here and in other letters make no sense when being read. You cannot even check your spelling or grammar for Pete sake, lol I think you should qualify for help getting the education you really need thru government programs. I know they have summer camp for retards like you. You also need to read and memorize the US constitution and Bill of Rights. The malicious malice you have been doing will catch up to you. Especially, when you stalk and harass Politian representatives and their neighbors. I know there is tons I could go on & on & on about, but why bother. I like reading your stupid writing; it makes people see whom you really are. In addition, I do not care if you post a reply challenging me. I said what I had to say and that is all the breath I am going to waste out of my life on you. In addition, you really should stop creating Ad hominem arguments.
I speak with the rights of Freedom of Speech (First Amendment in the US Constitution)

(PSALM 50:10)All ANIMALS ARE GOD'S ANIMALS

(Matthew 23:28) Even so you seem to men to be full of righteousness, but inside you are all false, and full of wrongdoing.

(Acts 13:10) and said, Full of all deceit and all cunning, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

May god forgive you at the end of life...


Dannyhall

Avoca,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

One lie, leads to another.The truth will set You free! Or in Your case in jail.

#12Consumer Comment

Tue, March 17, 2009

My name is Danny Hall. I am the person who filed this complaint about Tina Hyslop in reference to the theft of My horse. I am glad that Tina had replied to this. For those of You that have read my letter,You had probably noticed that I give case numbers , report numbers and case numbers for criminal records. All are documents that can not be forged. Everything that I write is backed by some form of evidence( court records,police reports,witness statements etc.). As for Tina ,all We have to go on is her word. And a persons word is only as good as their reputation. I did not know the Hyslops prior to them stealing My horse. I accepted this horse in question with a written agreement from the Ingles. The Inles came to My home and asked My family if we would like to take posession of this horse? Since we had assisted in the recouperation of this horse for two years, which was a result of an injury which happened prior to The Ingles owning this horse. The fact is that Tina Hyslop gave this horse to Danny Ingles in a state of starvation and absolutely no flesh in his rear leg. The facts stand for them selves. When You can go anywhere in St. Clair county and say Tina's first name and have the person that Your speaking with finish with her last name "hyslop". Which follows with what a thief she is! That pretty much says it all. Heres a little more to ponder. If Tina Hyslop really owned this horse why was he returned to My family where He resides to date? And why did tina not take some form of legal action to recoup this horse after He was returned to My home by the state police?And how did I win a civil case against tina in circuit court , when tina had an attourney and all I had is My evidence. The fact is that tina hyslop is an accomplished liar and thief. The only evidence that tina has that she owned this horse was the registration papers which were filed a year after tina gave this horse to the Ingles family. ,I would be ashamed to admit that I accepted money from my neighbors to pay for the mistakes that I had made! But their is no shame with these people. Before You carry on with your words,show us all some form of evidence to prove Your case. What you should do for once in Your life is to take responsibility for your actions. And try working a job that does not involve going to Your neighbors and stealing their property so you can sell it at an auction.As for Josie not being in her truck that day. I also have all the information needed to prove that to! As for MR. Wendling(prosecuting attourney for St. Clair county) I have the utmost respect for him,as a person. But on a professional level , MR. Wendling has a responsibility to the honest ,tax paying and law abiding citizens that pay his wages. His job is to prosecute people like you!

And I will explain this to tina as simple as I can. When You go to some one's home and steal their belongings,that is what We call a criminal matter. What happened between your family and the ingles was a civil matter! My family had absolutely nothing to do with any agreement that You had with the Ingles. And I am going to hold all who came to My home and stold My property accountable under the law! Most adults understand this. Before I sign off,I am interested to know who My lover is that You refer to?

Danny H


Tina

Avoca,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

This guy is a nut job, please becareful of him!!!

#12REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, March 11, 2009

Contact local polititians and they will tell you the real about this guy. He claims to have recordings of a bunch of people saying things, but they are not real. Everyone we have talked to tells a different story then him. He stalks these people, like he has been stalking us. He is not telling the whole story to America either. He has been slandering us, other people, the local polititians, and the law enforcement. He is lying about his personal info being blocked by site owners on all his posts on ripoff, cause if that was the case then they would block all personal info on everyones posts on ripoff to protect them.

Without going to deep into this whole MESS he created. Along with his friend helping him try and destroy everyones reputation (that I posted a ripoff report on this site years ago on). The two lovers need to get a life and get real. He already tried several times to kill us, and there are reports of it. So if he seceeds doing it the law knows he is the one that did it.

Here is the true other side of this matter:

I owned the horse, sold to one neighbor(dan and elanor ingles) on payments they never made. They sold the horse to another neighbor(danny hall) and still didnt pay me. He knew what he was doing was wrong and knew the horse was stolen and not paid for to us by the first neighbor. When we finally found and recovered the horse he was mutilated by the 2nd neighbor and dam near starved to death. But because he bought horse from first neighbors(ingles), the courts considered him a 3rd party involvement and not the person to pay us. He had another horse person(bev mccallum) write a false 3 page letter claiming the horse was valued over $15,000 and due to the gelding of him he was ruined for breeding purposes (which he was sterlile for breeding to begin with per covering over 20 mares and no foals born from any of the breedings over a 6-8 month breeding period, which ingles knew this and was the reason for them having him gelded right after getting him to their home per our agreement). Hall claims he has a foal from this horse, but the birthing date and time of conception are way off for this to be possiable. The horse(Dandy) was casterated 2 months before the conception date of this so called foal. What he is not also mentioning is how he used his daddy law enforcement carrer to get him out of jail for pulling a hand gun on us, and for injury our daughter and her horse.

The horse(Dandy) I got from lady in Owosso. He to this day is still in our name with APHA, and was reported stolen to them from the begining by US! Even after that Hall tried to forge paper work to falsly get the registration papers on this horse. This horse(Dandy) was to injured by him(Hall) to even think about moving or selling. He claims the police caught us trying to run the horse(Dandy) thru Marlette Auction. He was under medical care in Emmett, MI. NO auction was involved at all. No charges were brought on us, cause Sherriff and State knew the horse was owned by us. The state police made the mistake of retreiving the horse from us and handing it back to him per not checking out all the facts first. And the officer was given a forged reciept saying I sold horse to Hall). After the horse was back in his possesion, we had to fight in court. The courts didnt really deal with it, they sent it to a mediation of 3 lawyers to figure out. He was trying to sue for $1,000,000,000.00 at first and then changed it to $100,000.00 for some odd reason. He put in his thing he was sueing for metal damages and loss of income from said horse. Due to horse never producing anything DNA'd to him from the time we did the first sale agreement to today, he was denied the amount, and given $1000.00 for the expense of taking us to court. The $1,000 was donated by township residents because he put them all thru hell also. They figured pay it and he would go away. Well he hasnt, he stalks people still, harasses them still, and went as far as going after the proscutor(mike wendling) to be removed from office! Nice guy huh???? He is a monster, and a nightmare for any neighbor to have. The horse we are talking about is still a bag of bones from him starving him worse in case we took him when the court stuff was final. It is sad, and he should be treated the same as he treats the horse. The horse will never be the same as he was when he was in our possesion, he has mentally and physcally neglected the horse. Several people have turned him in for the abuse.. AC dont do anything!! He even rides the horse in the condition it is in, it is very sad!!!

Anyways, there are so many witnesses to what he has done, to us and the horse, and to the people in this county. He has been posting this same writing all over on horse web communities, they have been removing them due to finding out the real facts.If anyone wants to contact my lawyer his name is David Heyboer 810-982-5400 or look him up and drop him a email. We been getting all sorts of people contacting us to give support. As for Hall posting all the slander we will let him. It just builds the stalking case more for us to have him prosecuted. Also Josie was never involved, so he just opened another can of slander with her..... he is a idiot!!!

I have tons of photos of Dandy, even ones of the day he left my farm to go to the Ingles farm. I have photos of Dandy at Hall's farm and the condition he is kept. Photos of Hall riding this poor horse thin as a rail and bleeding from his back leg in a parade he was asked to leave from. Photos of him riding him on back roads in same condition. Photos of the injuries from Hall beating on Dandy taken minutes of when we first got him back. Think about this folks...... if he was a true an honest person (Hall) he would of never been HIDING Dandy to begin with!!! He knew that Dandy was not paid for by Ingles yet. Ingles knew what they were doing to, so they are just as guilty, trying to get out of paying for Dandy. They had several times they coul of handed him back over and be honest and tell us they could not pay. But instead Hall came up with a sceme and they followed. Justice will be served one day. Hall will piss off the wrong person doing what he lives to do. Some people aren't as nice as us, some people take matters in their own handds like Hall likes to do when he uses his gun to terrify adults and lil kids.

I'm not going to waste my time defending myself or anyone else involved anymore. The people that know the truth support us fully. Life is to short to let some a*****e neighbor be a tick on my a*s all the time. If others want to speak out go ahead. As far as Hall making claims about voice recordings and suck, well lets just say he has been busted more then a few times faking them,lol...... People are what they are, and with people like Hall on the loose who needs the Anticrist.

Tina


Tina

Avoca,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

This guy is a nut job, please becareful of him!!!

#12REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, March 11, 2009

Contact local polititians and they will tell you the real about this guy. He claims to have recordings of a bunch of people saying things, but they are not real. Everyone we have talked to tells a different story then him. He stalks these people, like he has been stalking us. He is not telling the whole story to America either. He has been slandering us, other people, the local polititians, and the law enforcement. He is lying about his personal info being blocked by site owners on all his posts on ripoff, cause if that was the case then they would block all personal info on everyones posts on ripoff to protect them.

Without going to deep into this whole MESS he created. Along with his friend helping him try and destroy everyones reputation (that I posted a ripoff report on this site years ago on). The two lovers need to get a life and get real. He already tried several times to kill us, and there are reports of it. So if he seceeds doing it the law knows he is the one that did it.

Here is the true other side of this matter:

I owned the horse, sold to one neighbor(dan and elanor ingles) on payments they never made. They sold the horse to another neighbor(danny hall) and still didnt pay me. He knew what he was doing was wrong and knew the horse was stolen and not paid for to us by the first neighbor. When we finally found and recovered the horse he was mutilated by the 2nd neighbor and dam near starved to death. But because he bought horse from first neighbors(ingles), the courts considered him a 3rd party involvement and not the person to pay us. He had another horse person(bev mccallum) write a false 3 page letter claiming the horse was valued over $15,000 and due to the gelding of him he was ruined for breeding purposes (which he was sterlile for breeding to begin with per covering over 20 mares and no foals born from any of the breedings over a 6-8 month breeding period, which ingles knew this and was the reason for them having him gelded right after getting him to their home per our agreement). Hall claims he has a foal from this horse, but the birthing date and time of conception are way off for this to be possiable. The horse(Dandy) was casterated 2 months before the conception date of this so called foal. What he is not also mentioning is how he used his daddy law enforcement carrer to get him out of jail for pulling a hand gun on us, and for injury our daughter and her horse.

The horse(Dandy) I got from lady in Owosso. He to this day is still in our name with APHA, and was reported stolen to them from the begining by US! Even after that Hall tried to forge paper work to falsly get the registration papers on this horse. This horse(Dandy) was to injured by him(Hall) to even think about moving or selling. He claims the police caught us trying to run the horse(Dandy) thru Marlette Auction. He was under medical care in Emmett, MI. NO auction was involved at all. No charges were brought on us, cause Sherriff and State knew the horse was owned by us. The state police made the mistake of retreiving the horse from us and handing it back to him per not checking out all the facts first. And the officer was given a forged reciept saying I sold horse to Hall). After the horse was back in his possesion, we had to fight in court. The courts didnt really deal with it, they sent it to a mediation of 3 lawyers to figure out. He was trying to sue for $1,000,000,000.00 at first and then changed it to $100,000.00 for some odd reason. He put in his thing he was sueing for metal damages and loss of income from said horse. Due to horse never producing anything DNA'd to him from the time we did the first sale agreement to today, he was denied the amount, and given $1000.00 for the expense of taking us to court. The $1,000 was donated by township residents because he put them all thru hell also. They figured pay it and he would go away. Well he hasnt, he stalks people still, harasses them still, and went as far as going after the proscutor(mike wendling) to be removed from office! Nice guy huh???? He is a monster, and a nightmare for any neighbor to have. The horse we are talking about is still a bag of bones from him starving him worse in case we took him when the court stuff was final. It is sad, and he should be treated the same as he treats the horse. The horse will never be the same as he was when he was in our possesion, he has mentally and physcally neglected the horse. Several people have turned him in for the abuse.. AC dont do anything!! He even rides the horse in the condition it is in, it is very sad!!!

Anyways, there are so many witnesses to what he has done, to us and the horse, and to the people in this county. He has been posting this same writing all over on horse web communities, they have been removing them due to finding out the real facts.If anyone wants to contact my lawyer his name is David Heyboer 810-982-5400 or look him up and drop him a email. We been getting all sorts of people contacting us to give support. As for Hall posting all the slander we will let him. It just builds the stalking case more for us to have him prosecuted. Also Josie was never involved, so he just opened another can of slander with her..... he is a idiot!!!

I have tons of photos of Dandy, even ones of the day he left my farm to go to the Ingles farm. I have photos of Dandy at Hall's farm and the condition he is kept. Photos of Hall riding this poor horse thin as a rail and bleeding from his back leg in a parade he was asked to leave from. Photos of him riding him on back roads in same condition. Photos of the injuries from Hall beating on Dandy taken minutes of when we first got him back. Think about this folks...... if he was a true an honest person (Hall) he would of never been HIDING Dandy to begin with!!! He knew that Dandy was not paid for by Ingles yet. Ingles knew what they were doing to, so they are just as guilty, trying to get out of paying for Dandy. They had several times they coul of handed him back over and be honest and tell us they could not pay. But instead Hall came up with a sceme and they followed. Justice will be served one day. Hall will piss off the wrong person doing what he lives to do. Some people aren't as nice as us, some people take matters in their own handds like Hall likes to do when he uses his gun to terrify adults and lil kids.

I'm not going to waste my time defending myself or anyone else involved anymore. The people that know the truth support us fully. Life is to short to let some a*****e neighbor be a tick on my a*s all the time. If others want to speak out go ahead. As far as Hall making claims about voice recordings and suck, well lets just say he has been busted more then a few times faking them,lol...... People are what they are, and with people like Hall on the loose who needs the Anticrist.

Tina


Tina

Avoca,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

This guy is a nut job, please becareful of him!!!

#12REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, March 11, 2009

Contact local polititians and they will tell you the real about this guy. He claims to have recordings of a bunch of people saying things, but they are not real. Everyone we have talked to tells a different story then him. He stalks these people, like he has been stalking us. He is not telling the whole story to America either. He has been slandering us, other people, the local polititians, and the law enforcement. He is lying about his personal info being blocked by site owners on all his posts on ripoff, cause if that was the case then they would block all personal info on everyones posts on ripoff to protect them.

Without going to deep into this whole MESS he created. Along with his friend helping him try and destroy everyones reputation (that I posted a ripoff report on this site years ago on). The two lovers need to get a life and get real. He already tried several times to kill us, and there are reports of it. So if he seceeds doing it the law knows he is the one that did it.

Here is the true other side of this matter:

I owned the horse, sold to one neighbor(dan and elanor ingles) on payments they never made. They sold the horse to another neighbor(danny hall) and still didnt pay me. He knew what he was doing was wrong and knew the horse was stolen and not paid for to us by the first neighbor. When we finally found and recovered the horse he was mutilated by the 2nd neighbor and dam near starved to death. But because he bought horse from first neighbors(ingles), the courts considered him a 3rd party involvement and not the person to pay us. He had another horse person(bev mccallum) write a false 3 page letter claiming the horse was valued over $15,000 and due to the gelding of him he was ruined for breeding purposes (which he was sterlile for breeding to begin with per covering over 20 mares and no foals born from any of the breedings over a 6-8 month breeding period, which ingles knew this and was the reason for them having him gelded right after getting him to their home per our agreement). Hall claims he has a foal from this horse, but the birthing date and time of conception are way off for this to be possiable. The horse(Dandy) was casterated 2 months before the conception date of this so called foal. What he is not also mentioning is how he used his daddy law enforcement carrer to get him out of jail for pulling a hand gun on us, and for injury our daughter and her horse.

The horse(Dandy) I got from lady in Owosso. He to this day is still in our name with APHA, and was reported stolen to them from the begining by US! Even after that Hall tried to forge paper work to falsly get the registration papers on this horse. This horse(Dandy) was to injured by him(Hall) to even think about moving or selling. He claims the police caught us trying to run the horse(Dandy) thru Marlette Auction. He was under medical care in Emmett, MI. NO auction was involved at all. No charges were brought on us, cause Sherriff and State knew the horse was owned by us. The state police made the mistake of retreiving the horse from us and handing it back to him per not checking out all the facts first. And the officer was given a forged reciept saying I sold horse to Hall). After the horse was back in his possesion, we had to fight in court. The courts didnt really deal with it, they sent it to a mediation of 3 lawyers to figure out. He was trying to sue for $1,000,000,000.00 at first and then changed it to $100,000.00 for some odd reason. He put in his thing he was sueing for metal damages and loss of income from said horse. Due to horse never producing anything DNA'd to him from the time we did the first sale agreement to today, he was denied the amount, and given $1000.00 for the expense of taking us to court. The $1,000 was donated by township residents because he put them all thru hell also. They figured pay it and he would go away. Well he hasnt, he stalks people still, harasses them still, and went as far as going after the proscutor(mike wendling) to be removed from office! Nice guy huh???? He is a monster, and a nightmare for any neighbor to have. The horse we are talking about is still a bag of bones from him starving him worse in case we took him when the court stuff was final. It is sad, and he should be treated the same as he treats the horse. The horse will never be the same as he was when he was in our possesion, he has mentally and physcally neglected the horse. Several people have turned him in for the abuse.. AC dont do anything!! He even rides the horse in the condition it is in, it is very sad!!!

Anyways, there are so many witnesses to what he has done, to us and the horse, and to the people in this county. He has been posting this same writing all over on horse web communities, they have been removing them due to finding out the real facts.If anyone wants to contact my lawyer his name is David Heyboer 810-982-5400 or look him up and drop him a email. We been getting all sorts of people contacting us to give support. As for Hall posting all the slander we will let him. It just builds the stalking case more for us to have him prosecuted. Also Josie was never involved, so he just opened another can of slander with her..... he is a idiot!!!

I have tons of photos of Dandy, even ones of the day he left my farm to go to the Ingles farm. I have photos of Dandy at Hall's farm and the condition he is kept. Photos of Hall riding this poor horse thin as a rail and bleeding from his back leg in a parade he was asked to leave from. Photos of him riding him on back roads in same condition. Photos of the injuries from Hall beating on Dandy taken minutes of when we first got him back. Think about this folks...... if he was a true an honest person (Hall) he would of never been HIDING Dandy to begin with!!! He knew that Dandy was not paid for by Ingles yet. Ingles knew what they were doing to, so they are just as guilty, trying to get out of paying for Dandy. They had several times they coul of handed him back over and be honest and tell us they could not pay. But instead Hall came up with a sceme and they followed. Justice will be served one day. Hall will piss off the wrong person doing what he lives to do. Some people aren't as nice as us, some people take matters in their own handds like Hall likes to do when he uses his gun to terrify adults and lil kids.

I'm not going to waste my time defending myself or anyone else involved anymore. The people that know the truth support us fully. Life is to short to let some a*****e neighbor be a tick on my a*s all the time. If others want to speak out go ahead. As far as Hall making claims about voice recordings and suck, well lets just say he has been busted more then a few times faking them,lol...... People are what they are, and with people like Hall on the loose who needs the Anticrist.

Tina


Tina

Avoca,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

This guy is a nut job, please becareful of him!!!

#12REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, March 11, 2009

Contact local polititians and they will tell you the real about this guy. He claims to have recordings of a bunch of people saying things, but they are not real. Everyone we have talked to tells a different story then him. He stalks these people, like he has been stalking us. He is not telling the whole story to America either. He has been slandering us, other people, the local polititians, and the law enforcement. He is lying about his personal info being blocked by site owners on all his posts on ripoff, cause if that was the case then they would block all personal info on everyones posts on ripoff to protect them.

Without going to deep into this whole MESS he created. Along with his friend helping him try and destroy everyones reputation (that I posted a ripoff report on this site years ago on). The two lovers need to get a life and get real. He already tried several times to kill us, and there are reports of it. So if he seceeds doing it the law knows he is the one that did it.

Here is the true other side of this matter:

I owned the horse, sold to one neighbor(dan and elanor ingles) on payments they never made. They sold the horse to another neighbor(danny hall) and still didnt pay me. He knew what he was doing was wrong and knew the horse was stolen and not paid for to us by the first neighbor. When we finally found and recovered the horse he was mutilated by the 2nd neighbor and dam near starved to death. But because he bought horse from first neighbors(ingles), the courts considered him a 3rd party involvement and not the person to pay us. He had another horse person(bev mccallum) write a false 3 page letter claiming the horse was valued over $15,000 and due to the gelding of him he was ruined for breeding purposes (which he was sterlile for breeding to begin with per covering over 20 mares and no foals born from any of the breedings over a 6-8 month breeding period, which ingles knew this and was the reason for them having him gelded right after getting him to their home per our agreement). Hall claims he has a foal from this horse, but the birthing date and time of conception are way off for this to be possiable. The horse(Dandy) was casterated 2 months before the conception date of this so called foal. What he is not also mentioning is how he used his daddy law enforcement carrer to get him out of jail for pulling a hand gun on us, and for injury our daughter and her horse.

The horse(Dandy) I got from lady in Owosso. He to this day is still in our name with APHA, and was reported stolen to them from the begining by US! Even after that Hall tried to forge paper work to falsly get the registration papers on this horse. This horse(Dandy) was to injured by him(Hall) to even think about moving or selling. He claims the police caught us trying to run the horse(Dandy) thru Marlette Auction. He was under medical care in Emmett, MI. NO auction was involved at all. No charges were brought on us, cause Sherriff and State knew the horse was owned by us. The state police made the mistake of retreiving the horse from us and handing it back to him per not checking out all the facts first. And the officer was given a forged reciept saying I sold horse to Hall). After the horse was back in his possesion, we had to fight in court. The courts didnt really deal with it, they sent it to a mediation of 3 lawyers to figure out. He was trying to sue for $1,000,000,000.00 at first and then changed it to $100,000.00 for some odd reason. He put in his thing he was sueing for metal damages and loss of income from said horse. Due to horse never producing anything DNA'd to him from the time we did the first sale agreement to today, he was denied the amount, and given $1000.00 for the expense of taking us to court. The $1,000 was donated by township residents because he put them all thru hell also. They figured pay it and he would go away. Well he hasnt, he stalks people still, harasses them still, and went as far as going after the proscutor(mike wendling) to be removed from office! Nice guy huh???? He is a monster, and a nightmare for any neighbor to have. The horse we are talking about is still a bag of bones from him starving him worse in case we took him when the court stuff was final. It is sad, and he should be treated the same as he treats the horse. The horse will never be the same as he was when he was in our possesion, he has mentally and physcally neglected the horse. Several people have turned him in for the abuse.. AC dont do anything!! He even rides the horse in the condition it is in, it is very sad!!!

Anyways, there are so many witnesses to what he has done, to us and the horse, and to the people in this county. He has been posting this same writing all over on horse web communities, they have been removing them due to finding out the real facts.If anyone wants to contact my lawyer his name is David Heyboer 810-982-5400 or look him up and drop him a email. We been getting all sorts of people contacting us to give support. As for Hall posting all the slander we will let him. It just builds the stalking case more for us to have him prosecuted. Also Josie was never involved, so he just opened another can of slander with her..... he is a idiot!!!

I have tons of photos of Dandy, even ones of the day he left my farm to go to the Ingles farm. I have photos of Dandy at Hall's farm and the condition he is kept. Photos of Hall riding this poor horse thin as a rail and bleeding from his back leg in a parade he was asked to leave from. Photos of him riding him on back roads in same condition. Photos of the injuries from Hall beating on Dandy taken minutes of when we first got him back. Think about this folks...... if he was a true an honest person (Hall) he would of never been HIDING Dandy to begin with!!! He knew that Dandy was not paid for by Ingles yet. Ingles knew what they were doing to, so they are just as guilty, trying to get out of paying for Dandy. They had several times they coul of handed him back over and be honest and tell us they could not pay. But instead Hall came up with a sceme and they followed. Justice will be served one day. Hall will piss off the wrong person doing what he lives to do. Some people aren't as nice as us, some people take matters in their own handds like Hall likes to do when he uses his gun to terrify adults and lil kids.

I'm not going to waste my time defending myself or anyone else involved anymore. The people that know the truth support us fully. Life is to short to let some a*****e neighbor be a tick on my a*s all the time. If others want to speak out go ahead. As far as Hall making claims about voice recordings and suck, well lets just say he has been busted more then a few times faking them,lol...... People are what they are, and with people like Hall on the loose who needs the Anticrist.

Tina

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