Complaint Review: Tnt Silver Labradors

Hello Dawn, I wanted to up-date you a little about the Hindles. They have now filed false reports about me, my website, my husband, etc. also on rip off report. If you have the time read those along with other reports under tnt. Trevor spent some time as a Federal Inmate at Oakdale prison in Louisiana before being deported to New Zealand in October of 2005. I am a little confused on the entries on the inmate lookup because it has a much earlier date in it from the 80's, so maybe he was an inmate twice while he was in America. That is interesting. Once he was released in New Zealand he went back to selling dogs and ripping off people. He must have thought it was the right time to try to strike back at me, since he is having a hard time selling his silver labs due to rip off report and all his victims.

I am sure that he puts all that blame on me and the other victims, instead of thinking about all the people he hurt and maybe considering he should have done things differently in the first place. He has worked himself into a jam it seems, but I am not sure he realizes it yet. Maybe he thought and thinks that being in New Zealand made him safe from the victims in the United States.

Dawn, I just wanted to give you a little up date on them, hope everything is going well your way, it has just been too hot here and I am ready for cooler weather.

Thanks for your post. At least there were a few people with good experiences along the way, but unfortunately there were alot of victims, some on rip off report and some who didn't file reports on the site but reported them in other avenues. For search, put in TNT and there are two other separate entries that also should be read. One of those reports is very lengthy and may take awhile to read through all the posts and victims. Those victims might want to know that at least a few of the dogs came out okay. I only lost a pick of the litter puppy for stud services, but several of those victims in the other report have suffered through a lot of heartache over the suffering of their pets. I like the name Beast, that is a very interesting name. Thanks again for the post and good luck with Beast.

I just wanted to say that I also am VERY happy with my Silver Lab I got from TNT. His Name is Beast, and he is 3 years old this coming June. No health problems and the Vets just love him. So thanks to the owners and breeders for blessing me with this dog.

Hello, Thanks for your response. From your response you state that you had a good experience with TNT along with three other friends, maybe you have been fortunate to have escaped the misfortune that so many have had with TNT and the Hindles. I would have never found rip off report site if my experience had been good, but my family was a victim of the Hindles and rip off report has other victims of the Hindles from all over the US.

I wonder if you read the other victim reports as my report was at the bottom of the victim report list? Your response generated notice to me and put me back at the top of the victim list, but there are other victims on the list that had a variety of problems with TNT and the Hindles. I hope that anybody who reads my report will look at the other victims reports also. Thanks again for your response.

We have a 2 year old silver lab from TNT. Tracy and her husband were very knowledgable and nice to work with. The kennel was immaculate and the dogs were healty and happy. We have 3 friends who purchased labs from TNT with the same success that we experienced.

I am sorry that you have gotten dogs that have the problems that they have. I noticed that there is another vicim on the other rip off report for TNT that has the same parents as your dogs, and her dog has ear infections. Looks like at least three puppies from those same parents are having health issues.

Maybe you should take your post on this report and post it on the other report so the other lady will find it and so everybody else finds it too and puts it together. Maybe whomever now has those parents will find it and make sure not to breed them anymore as alot of those problems are genetic issues.

If the Hindles still have them, I feel certain they are still breeding them, but if someone else has them they might not know the problem exists yet. I feel for all the people that have had problems with their sick puppies and dogs.

Me and my Husband went to NC to Buy a Silver Lab from Tracy Hindle in March of 2004. well we ended up buying a brother & sister. They were born to TNT Texas Lone Silver Star & Silver Sally Schwartz. things were good with them when they were Puppies but when they were around a yr old the male Smokey started to lose his hair was getting real wide with a flat back and bad mood swings.

My sister-in-law has his sister and she had the same Problems as he does. She took her to the Vets and the dog had Thyroid problems so I took her brother to the Vet and this Thyroid wasnt even working. Smokey has alot of health Problems. So anyone out there with dogs breed for the Labs I mention Please have them checked

The saga continues. Still no DNA results from MR and MRS Hindle involving our situation and more victims coming forward on the other report.

Anyone who reads this rip off report, needs to read the other rip off report also. Mrs. Hindle, Please put Princess Penny's DNA on file with AKC. If you are reputable person then you would want to know for sure who the father is of all the puppies. AKC is telling me that they don't have Penny's DNA on record. First you state that you don't know where the puppies are, but now you say you have the information where ever puppy is so which is it? Please send me the names and addresses of the other owners so I can contact them about the DNA tests if you are not going to.

If you haven't lied about anything, then what do you have to be afraid of to try to straighten this out? Yes, I guess that I am ignorant if you want to call me that for not being able to read results that I was never given. Since you say you have those, then you should have no trouble sending them to me. So send them along with Princess Penny's DNA results. This thing about Misty, according to what I read her dog was not born in Feb, her dog will be a year old this month in December. She bought her dog from you in Feb 06.

Lots of people when selecting their puppy might have breeding in the back of their minds for the future. She might have just wanted to breed her female for a puppy to have of her own, she might never want a kennel or to go into business of breeding. The thing is it is her choice after she purchased the puppy on what to do with it, and certainly if you didn't limit the registration, but you have certainly limited her choices by selling her a dog with health issues.

Mrs Hindle obviously you don't know me and have never been to my home. I don't live in a trailer, I have a beautiful home that I have lived in for 15 years. My husband and I are educated, we both are college graduates. I have worked for the State of North Carolina for 17 years, my husband works three different jobs and is very hard working man.

I am tired of writing to you Mrs Hindle, I just need you to put Princess Penny's DNA on file with AKC and tell me where to find the rest of the puppies from that litter. That's all I need from you in our case. Merry Christmas to everyone.

I have explained to both of you the REAL facts that you both seem to forget. I don't have any reason to lie about the pups I had from Penny or the hip dysplasia problem in Shari's dog. Of course I know the names and addresses of all the pups from every dog I have ever bred. I am in good standing with the AKC and know what I did and did not do. I never said that you couldn't have the "other female" as a matter of fact I showed her to you and she was almost white and THAT is the reason you did not want her. The reason I offered you the male was because he was almost as dark red as the female I sold to the lady in NY which is the one you insisted you wanted! Andria's "disgusting" husband was the one that asked me to sell the lady in NY the "other one" and I responded by telling him that she had seen photos of her since birth and had already named her! Let's get the facts straight if we are going to be totally open and honest! I am sure that you are a much more respectable breeder than I. Your "dirty rat infested nasty kennel" is the reason that no one is allowed to come to your "trailer" to purchase your pups. Instead you sell them on the side of the road out of your truck!! What a joke....We know the truth as do you so if you want "proof" that the pups aren't Shaggy's then go ahead and spend your money to have the others tested. I sent the reports which were read by the DNA to you via email the last time I wrote to you about this. Like I said I can't help it if you are too ignorant to figure it out.

Let's just say, HYPOTHETICALLY, that I'm a big, fat liar. These occurrences I claim, never really happend - I just have a personal vendetta against Tracy Hindle and Trevor of 'TNT Labradors'.
I have 4 children and a lot of responsibilities in making exexutive decisions for a major-brand company, however I'm extremely bored and need to fulfill a purpose in my life... to bash TNT Labrador on Rip Off Report.

Wait... what exactly am I lying about, Tracy?
That I didn't purchase a "Silver" female Lab from you?
That your kennels didn't look fit for a neanderthal's pack of jackals?
That our Lab, Lexi, didn't develope Dysplasia at 8 months old and that she didn't have two hip surgery's because of it? Oh, we're still paying for those.
That you didn't stand by your 2-year Hip Dysplasia guarentee, even though my Vetinarian and I jumped through all of your "mandatory" hoops as proof that she was in fact the dog I purchased from you?
What exactly am I lying about, Tracy, I need to know.

You're right, Tracy, YOU'RE the victim through all of this. We're all liars and YOU'RE THE VICTIM...

...as I sit here and watch Lexi re-position herself from one side to the other, struggling to get comfortable on her bed next to me.
Sure wish you were here right now, Sweetie.

Merry Christmas, to you and yours, everyone!

Dear Mrs. Hindle.

1. It is funny how you supposedly don't know where any of those other puppies are except the one that is now dead. AKC requires it's breeders to keep detailed record of all puppies that come from AKC parents, so you should know every puppy's owner's names, addresses, etc and so you should be able to contact them about getting their puppy(now dog) DNA tested. You might want to review the rules that the AKC requires of you to use their registry about keeping records.

2. I would love to see the results of the one DNA test you said you did because we never received any information from you with DNA results for any of the seven puppies from this litter. Please send me the special profile that AKC's issues that contains the mother's DNA, the Fathers' DNA and the puppy DNA on the same sheet, AKC will do the reading for you for $20 and issue you the special paper. If you haven't filed Princess Penny's DNA yet, you will need to do so because they will not do the special paper without hers. By the way, AKC stated that they don't have Princess Penny's DNA on file as of yet. You never even told me you completed any DNA test on any puppies of this litter before now, but there are six more tests that need to be done. Our dog, Big Red's DNA is on file because of the rules of AKC about having the DNA on file for studs, bred more than 3 times in one calendar year and seven times in a lifetime, his DNA has been on record for several years now. Trevor told us that he was paying to get a copy of Big Red's pedigree which is something yall wanted to have and has nothing to do with DNA.

As you well know, female dogs can have puppies in the same litter from different studs, therefore when there is questions about parentage ALL puppies must be DNA tested, when a female breeds to multiple sires. So all those puppies must be tested. Parentage isn't conclusive by just looking at the puppies, if is was there wouldn't be DNA tests. You say all the puppies look like Shaggy, well now Mary's dog looks like and is big like Big Red-he is much bigger and taller than Shaggy and Penny. You also told Mary and her family that the father was Big Red until the day they came to pick their dog up and then you told them it was Shaggy. So, you at least know that Big Red and Penny bred. That is on the other rip off report site that Shari started if anyone wants to read about it. So, you couldn't keep your story straight with them either.

3. Your husband-Trevor contacted My husband about breeding Big Red to Penny. Trevor wanted to bring her that day because she was ready to breed right then. Penny hadn't been at our house five minutes when she mated and locked up with Big Red, so she was certainly ready at that time. Trevor wanted to leave with her right then, but my husband told him to leave her for a few days, in which they locked up several more times. We had Princess Penny from Wednesday to Saturday, when your husband picked her up in Charlotte, where my husband works. Your dog was certainly in heat at our house, as your dog and our dog locked up several times.

4. My husband called you on several occasions about our puppy and picking it out. You kept putting us off saying you would have to talk to Trevor about this. We got concerned because you kept giving us the run around and then my husband wanted to talk to Trevor, you said he had been arrested and held for deportation. We visited your kennel when the puppies were almost five weeks old, where you told us that you had already sold the female that we wanted for pick of the litter along with the rest of the females from the litter. All the puppies were still at your kennel. You told us that you had already taken a deposit from someone who saw the puppy on the Internet and you didn't want to back out of this deal. When my husband emphasized to you that this was the puppy that Trevor had promised us, you stated that you would just give another puppy to those people because they couldn't really tell if that was their puppy or not from looking at pictures on the internet. Which was dishonest in itself. Then shortly after that and near the end of our visit, you tell us for the first time, that we can't have a puppy from the litter because Big Red isn't the father. My husband told you this wasn't true because he and your husband had watched Big Red and Penny lock up.

We told you that all the puppies would need to be DNA tested immediately if Penny had been allowed to bred with another stud. You stated that your husband had rebred Penny to Shaggy after she came home from breeding with Big Red. I also view this as very dishonest, in that we were never informed until the puppies were almost five weeks old, that there was a possibility they were not Big Red's and it is not very honest behavior to rebreed a dog that has already been bred. That really stinks. If you were intending to breed to your stud to begin with, you should have never brought Penny to us.

Seems to me that maybe you needed Big Red's healthy genetics to cover for Shaggy's, but wanted to make the higher prices selling the puppies as English bloodline Championship puppies from Shaggy. As the puppies were all still in your possession at that time we requested you DNA test them, all the puppies could have been DNA tested right then. That would have been the honest and right thing to do.

You state in your report that you kept one of the females for a time as your own before selling her to someone in New Orleans. So, you were dishonest about that also. You had a female that you could have given us for the stud service. 5. Thank you for finally responding to me, it wasn't a very nice response, but at least I got some good useful information out of it and had a really good laugh. I can see with what is happening in you and your husband's life, that yall are already paying for the dishonesty and injustices committed.

I would like to comment on the ridiculous slander that I am now reading from Andria about the so called stud fee or pick of the litter that I owe them. Your dog Big Red may have breed with Penny but since you only had her for 2 days when you insisited she had bred and that we should come and get her then I do not know how you can think that they were Big Reds pups. When Penny arrived back home she began to really come in to heat and when she was swollen a week later then we decided that the breeding would likely not have taken so we did put her with Shaggy and they bred several times for the next week. When the pups were born I could tell immediately that they were not Big Reds pups because of the light color. Upon DNA TESTING which we did on "Pennies from Heaven" because we wanted to keep her, we found WITHOUT A DOUBT that she was definetly SHAGGY's pup.After my husband was deported I could not keep her so I sold her to a man in New Orleans and just learned that she died in a freak accident. I do not know the whereabouts of any other pups from the litter. You were told this on the phone and by email and still showed up at my house under false pretences without an appointment. I did not know you so you posed as a customer and claimed you wanted to BUY a red female. She was already sold which I told you and THEN you told me who you were and that you wanted her for your stud fee. You are the con artist in this scenario!!! When I told you that they were not Red's you continued to go on and on about wanting the Red female. If you remember correctly, even though I was sure they were not Red's pups, I offered you a red male as a fee for your trouble. You conviently forgot that part!!! You only wanted the red female which you were of course planning to breed which is why you wanted her and not a male. I was even nice to you after I learned of your con and continued to share with you my time which I was not enjoying after you spit your chewed tobacco all over my yard and even farted in my face!!! Just to let others know what kind of people you are when you claim how dirty my place was! I had full time help after my husband was deported so my kennel was cleaner than it had ever been so I really take offence by your remarks especially coming from such unscrupulus, backward rednecks!! I DNA tested "Pennies from Heaven" and sent you the report along with Big Reds DNA (which we also paid for) for you to compare. I can't help you are too ignorant to read it but I do not appreciate the lies you are telling to help support the lies that Shari is continuing to tell.

Hello, Back in the summer of 2005, Mr. Hindle brought his dog Princess Penny to our house for breeding with our stud Big Red. Mr. Hindle and my husband stood out in the yard and watched the two dogs mate and lock up. We kept Princess Penny for three more days for more breedings. We were supposed to receive the pick of the litter puppy from this breeding which was what was agreed upon with Mr. Hindle.

My husband contacted Mrs. Hindle on the phone several different times about the puppy, she kept saying she would have to talk to her husband, but when my husband asked to speak with her husband, Mrs. Hindle finally told him that her husband had been arrested and was being held for deportation from this country. She kept putting us off about getting our puppy.

We got suspicious and concerned and decided to travel to the kennel and see the puppies. We were dismayed at the conditions of the kennel and the puppies we saw. Most of the puppies did not look healthy, and at least a couple of adult dogs were not healthy either.

There were seven puppies in the litter we came to look at and they were almost five weeks old. We told Mrs. Hindle that we came to pick out our pick of the litter-the reddish colored female and that we were the owners of Big Red. We walked around looking at the other puppies and had conversations with Mrs. Hindle about some other dogs and puppies we saw. We asked some questions about the unhealthy looking dogs and puppies. When we asked her about when to come back and pick up our puppy, Mrs. Hindle said that we wouldn't be able to get a puppy from the litter because they belonged to her stud dog Shaggy.

We told her that wasn't so, that Mr. Hindle had brought the dog and Penny had been bred to our stud. She stated that her husband had brought Penny home and rebred it to their stud and that she could tell by looking at the puppies that they all belonged to her stud. We requested that she DNA test all the puppies, she made some kind of comment that she had to do that two times before.

We told her that we wanted the puppies DNA tested and that we would want to know the results right away as the puppies were going to be sold in the next couple of weeks. We didn't hear from Mrs. Hindle for awhile and my husband started trying to call her again. I was finally able to raise her by email, she said she would DNA test the puppies, but that she knew they belonged from her stud by the way they looked. I never heard from Mrs. Hindle again and she did not DNA test the puppies.

I contacted the AKC about all this, they refused to do anything unless I gave them $500 up front. Then all they would do would be send her DNA test kits and have her test the puppies, the AKC would not send a representative out to do the tests or make an inspection of the kennels. I also noticed that the puppies and the adult dogs in question were removed from the Hindle's website so I wasn't even sure if they could even be located anymore for DNA testing.

When I found this rip off report site, I was able to find one of the puppies from that litter. I have now found out that four of the seven puppies have been registered with the AKC. Three puppies, I have no idea what happened to them because they have not been registered.

I am looking for the owners of three of the puppies, the puppies registered names are TNT's pennies from Heaven, TNT's princess snowflake, and Dinah, the Marcouxs Foxy Lady and I would like to know what happened to the other three puppies that were never registered.

If someone out there knows a way to contact the owners of these puppies, I would sure like to find them. The puppies were born on 8-29-2005. The puppies were registered to Princess Penny of Dalsingona and TNT's Angel Eyed shaggy. I would like to make several points, why would someone bring their dog to us for breeding and then take the dog home and rebreed the dog knowing it had already bred? Why didn't they breed to their own stud to start with instead? Why did she register the puppies to her stud without performing the DNA tests, she knew that there was questions about the parentage of the puppies? Makes me wonder how many other times they registered puppies to the wrong parents especially within their own breeding stock and no one to call them on it.

At first, I tried to excuse the condition of the kennel and the dogs and puppies I saw and give Mrs. Hindle the benefit of the doubt because I knew that she had just lost her husband to deportation and that she probably had alot of handle with the care of the kennels by herself and because I hadn't seen the kennels before that day to know if that was the standard way it looked or was ran. But maybe I was too fair in my assessment.

For the animals' sake,if it was too much for her to handle, then she should have give them away to someone who could take care of them and not worried what price she could get for them, and I shouldn't give someone the benefit of the doubt that has purposely frauded other individuals as the Hindles have.

Andria, this really doesn't surprise me but at the same time I'm can't believe at what extremes these people will go to, to actually con people into such things.

If anyone is interested in reading more about TNT Labradors in North Carolina (New Zealand now), or would like to tell us about what good experiences they've had with them, please view RipOff Report #F171941.Thank you.

And thank you, Andria for bringing this to our attention as well.
Sincerely,
Shari