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  • Report:  #254715

Complaint Review: Ultima Patch

Ultima Patch ripoff dishonest fraudulent billing. Illegally took money from my checking account without authorization Oshkosh Wisconsin *EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!

  • Reported By:
    Daytona Beach Florida
  • Submitted:
    Fri, June 15, 2007
  • Updated:
    Tue, June 19, 2007
  • Ultima Patch
    35 Wisconsin Street
    Oshkosh, Wisconsin
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
  • Category:

Ultima Patch, LLC contacted me through a message left in my e-mail. I responded to a FREE sample for shipping and handling of $6.95. Figured what the heck, if it worked I would order from them. Never did I agree to any further shipments nor was it ever disclosed to me that I would be billed for additional merchandise. I did not find out about this until three weeks later when I got my bank statement and found that they had debited my account for $69.90.

I called Ultima Patch and they said I had not cancelled within the ten day time period and I told them that I had agreed only to their free sample and nothing else and that they were not to charge my account again. The very next week they charged another $60.00. I called them again and was told that this was for their Live Lean Program so some crap like that.

I again told them they had been told not to debit my account and to mark any file they may have as closed. I inquired about a refund and was told that the merchandise had been shipped. This was now about 3 1/2 weeks after the initial OK for the FREE sample! I was charged overdraft fees by my bank and had to close the account to stop these people.

They refuse to refund the amounts taken out. I have filed a complaint with the Attorney General's office in Florida and would like to see these people put out of business! I am lucky, however, that my bank is working with me to get these amounts refunded. In addition, here in Florida they may be charged with exploiting the elderly as I am over 60!

I see that they are doing this all over the country and are making a killing by taking advantage of people. They need to be stopped and made to refund each and every person they have defrauded!

Bevelry
Daytona Beach, Florida
U.S.A.

EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!

HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:

Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.

According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.

If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.

Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!

DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!

Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.

And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.

Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.

If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.

CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD

If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.

Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.

And good luck Let us know how you do!

ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
EDitor@RipoffReport.com
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1 Updates & Rebuttals


Bevelry

Daytona Beach,
Florida,
U.S.A.

Ultima Patch

#2Author of original report

Tue, June 19, 2007

I have been notified by Ultima Patch that they are refunding my $69.90 and $60.00. That was after they received my letter that contained a copy of the consumer complaint I filed with the Attorney General. You can get the form from the Attorney General's office or their website. In addition, if you are over 60 like me then they can also be investigated for exploitation of the elderly. Never thought I would be glad to be considered "elderly" but whatever happens to this company will still not be enough. They are totally dishonest and know that what they are doing is wrong!

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