Report: #61067

Complaint Review: United Nissan

United Nissan ripoff Bait and Switch of Borrower Co-signer LIED about THEM PAYING OFF OLD CAR. Las Vegas Nevada

Reported By:

— Las Vegas Nevada
Submitted:

Wed, June 18, 2003
Updated:

Fri, June 20, 2003

United Nissan

3250 E. Sahara Ave.

Las Vegas, Nevada

U.S.A.
Phone:

702-207-8000
Category:

Auto Dealers

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Patrick Grey, manager of United Nissan in Las Vegas, and salesmen including the finance person, promised if I purchased a "cheap repo" and pay on time for 13 months, they would repair my damaged divorce credit which wasn't so bad to begin with-according to them. The deal was made, I gave them $2000. down for a 1998 Dodge Dakota selling for $13,000. I figured I couldn't haggle the price if they were doing the credit repair.

Nice Guys huh?? Around ll:30 PM, on a Saturday, after 6 1/2 hours of waiting, they asked my friend to sign some papers. They said he needed to co-sign for me. They were all in a hurry now due to the midnight deadline for the Sunday closing. To make a long story short, They stated that THEY would pay off my Pathfinder, which only $3,500. was owed, as part of the deal. Several people kept coming outside and asking my friend to initial his name?? on papers.

When I asked what they were for and if I needed to sign them, they gave me some bull about "oh he's ok to sign-this just says you aren't addind or taking anything off your car and we aren't addind or taking anything off the Dodge cheap repo, and hurried off. Right before the ordeal was about to end, the manager, Patrick Grey;;, came outside to my Pathfinder and said to me, "How would you like to drive out of here with a brand new Nissan Truck for the same price?" I asked how he could do that and he said that he didn't know I was trading a Nissan in. He said that the Company would give me a $1500.00 rebate for buying another Nissan in an attempt to keep Nissan customers buying Nissans.

Sounded right to me even though I new the sticker price for the truck was $17,000.00 because during our 6 hour run around that "it would be just another minute", I had looked at most every car on the lot. I picked out one and they rushed it off to be "cleaned and ready for me to drive home. The next thing I know my friend, Jim, was signing some papers. I believed he was co-signing as he also thought. When I tried to ask questions the finance guy gave me a runaround like this had to be done fast bacause the clock was running out. He said he could almost assure us that we would be getting the finance interest cheaper and they would call us on Monday when they heard from the finance co. and we could come back in, finish the paperwork, and ask all these questions. Well-the call never came on Monday.

When I finally found and read the papers Monday night, I saw the scam. I WASN'T EVEN ON THE LOAN!! The sticker price had jumped $5000.00 to over $22K with no explaination and they had added $4,300.00 on the loan to pay off my Pathfinder!!! They also had $500.00 charge for theft insurance and $1600. for Extended Warranty which they never talked to me about. I sent my friend, poor Jim, back to the dealer on Tuesday, with the truck. He told them the deal was off because he had no intention of buying a truck. Now this guy is going to talk to "THE WOMAN", me, so he calls me on the phone. When I spoke with this 2nd level salesman, he said it was all disclosed to us, Jim signed off on everything, our old car was gone, and there was nothing I could do about it.

When I wouldn't let him off the hook, he stated that I was yelling and being rude to him. I was actually very calm and knew he was saying this so whoever was in his office would think I was screaming. I figured he couldn't answer my questions so he was going to hang up. I informed him that the $2000. check (and the $400.00 check he came back and said he had to have for the Dodge,) had been stopped from payment. He told me that I committed a felony??? I paid this money for a Dodge Dakota in my name that I never received. I also called the bank where we owed $3,500 for the Pathfinder and paid off the car.

They are sending the title to me. Why would I give him my car, pay him $4,300 to take it, and not even receive a new car in return?????? This guy must think women are STUPID!! I didn't even mention the 10% of invoice that he told me COSCO would pay for the Dodge because I am a Las Vegas teacher. I'm e-mailing COSCO next/ Finally, every time I had a question on Saturday night, I got the bottom level salesman who couldn't understand or speak much English. He would go away to find the answer and never return or when he did he would give me an answer in broken English that no one could understand.

He didn't even know the manager had switched the Dodge for a Brand new Nissan Truck and told me I had the wrong truck when he went with us to put gas in it at a gas station. Now we are at a standoff. The New truck is hidden so they don't come back and steal it. I have no way to drive to teach Summer School that starts next Monday.

I have the title to my Pathfinder but they said between Monday and Tuesday they sold it to a dealer and I can't have it back-without a clear title?? I stopped payment on the $2600. down payment on the Dodge I never received. I'll keep you informed as to what happens now.. If anyone can help me, please e-mail me @ rwiedlocher@hotmail.com. LAS VEGAS-SIN CARDEALER CITY!!

Regina Wiedlocher
Las Vegas, Nevada
U.S.A.

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5 Updates & Rebuttals

Mary

Las Vegas,
Nevada,
U.S.A.

Thank you OH GREAT ONE for your info. I am right on it!!

#6Author of original report

Thu, June 19, 2003

UPDATE 6/19/03 9:40AM
I contacted COSCO yesterday about the 10% invoice pay off the salesman and manager told me about. They e-mailed back wanting their names, addresses, and phone numbers. According to Cosco United Nissan is not one of their dealers authorized to issue auto loans to their members. They don't even have a 10% teacher deal.

After going over the sales receipt from Saturday night @ 11:30, I found that they added $5,283.to the sticker price as "initial cost of the Truck. They then added $3,900. to pay off the Pathfinder then subtracted the $ for a trade. This plus the $5,283. now makes the added expence $5,683.00 plus the $2100. add ons no one knew about. The payoff abount was only $3,500. or exactly what I told them it would be. The banker who held the title said it should never take 2 months for a dealer to "pay off a car" the reason Mr. Barreto said he needed to add the extra $400. Just another lie... Also, what is this I hear about the dealer charging 12.9% interest then when they sell it for 9%, the dealer pockets the difference. Now, this is just a rummor so if anyone has information about this, please respond.

Oh Great Thorn-- DA PAIN, DA PAIN!!

The Great Thorn - Rip-off Report Consumer Advocate

Bayville,
New York,
U.S.A.

Regina will this help you expose auto dealer deception ?

#6Consumer Suggestion

Thu, June 19, 2003

Regina I am going to show you how to expose this dealer in a big way. You must never forget that car dealers think they can hide thier deceptive ways. Not anymore my fellow American.

Regina want you to make sure that EVERY contact that I post gets a VERY cleary copy of your Rip Off Report.

Your car dealer will not want the following people to read your Rip Off Report.

Nissan Motor Corp. in USA
Consumer Affairs Group
Nissan North America, Inc.
PO Box 191
Gardena, CA 90248-0191
310-532-3111
Toll free: 1-800-647-7261 (all consumer inquiries)
Fax: 310-771-2025
Web site: www.nissan-usa.com

NISSAN
Linda C. Bengivenga
Nissan North America, Inc.
1501 Cottontail Lane
Somerset, NJ 08873

Nevada State Offices Commissioner
Nevada Consumer Affairs Division
1850 East Sahara
Suite 101
Las Vegas, NV 89104
702-486-7355
Toll free: 1-800-326-5202
Fax: 702-486-7371
E-mail: ncad@fyiconsumer.org
Web site: www.fyiconsumer.org

Bureau of Consumer Protection
555 E. Washington Ave, Ste. 3900
Las Vegas, NV 89101
702-486-3420
Deputy Chief Investigator
Consumer Affairs Division
Department of Business and Industry
4600 Kietzke Lane, Building B, Suite 113
Reno, NV 89502
775-688-1800
Toll free in NV: 1-800-326-5202
Fax: 702-688-1803

Nevada Commissioner
Department of Business & Industry
Financial Institutions Division
406 East Second St., Suite 3
Carson City, NV 89701-4758
775-684-1830
Toll free in NV: 1-800-521-0019
Fax: 775-684-1845
E-mail: swalshaw@govmail-state.nv.us
Web site: www.fid.state.nv.us

Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20580
Toll free: 1-877-FTC-HELP (877-382-4357)
TDD/TTY: 202-326-2502
Web site: www.ftc.gov

Here is a list of some of your state senate mambers. Make sure they all get to read your Rip Off Report.

Care Terry tcare@sen.state.nv.us
Carlton Maggie mcarlton@sen.state.nv.us
Coffin Bob bcoffin@sen.state.nv.us
Mathews Bernice bmathews@sen.state.nv.us
McGinness Mike mmcginness@sen.state.nv.us
Neal Joseph jneal@sen.state.nv.us
O'Connell Ann aoconnell@sen.state.nv.us
Raggio William J. wraggio@sen.state.nv.us
Rawson Raymond D. rrawson@sen.state.nv.us
Rhoads Dean A. drhoads@sen.state.nv.us
Schneider Michael mschneider@sen.state.nv.us
Shaffer Raymond C. rshaffer@sen.state.nv.us
Titus Dina dtitus@sen.state.nv.us
Townsend Randolph J. rtownsend@sen.state.nv.us
Wiener Valerie vwiener@sen.state.nv.us
Cegavske Barbara bcegavske@sen.state.nv.us
Hardy Warren B. whardy@sen.state.nv.us
Nolan Dennis dnolan@sen.state.nv.us
Tiffany Sandra stiffany@sen.state.nv.us

next we have the following: FAX and Email
Senator Harry Reid Fx 202-224-7327 http://reid.senate.gov/email_form.cfm

Senator John Ensign Fx 202-228-2193 http://ensign.senate.gov/contact_john/contactjohn_email.html

Representative Shelley Berkley 202-225-3119 http://www.house.gov/berkley/con_email.html

Representative Jim Gibbons Fx 202-225-5679 http://www.house.gov/writerep/

Representative Jon Porter Fx 202-225-2185 http://www.house.gov/writerep/

next we have contacts at your state's biggest newspaper. Make sure they all get to read your Rip Off Report

Executive Director
Al Gibes
gibes@reviewjournal.com
Phone: 702.383.0478 Online Accounting/Office Manager

Maria Ohman
mohman@reviewjournal.com
Phone: 702.380.4500

CONTENT Director of Content Development
Tonya Carpenter
tonya@reviewjournal.com
Phone: 702.380.4585

Content Producer
Joyce E. Lupiani
joyce@reviewjournal.com

Content Producer
Shay Mehrdad
smehrdad@reviewjournal.com

Online Designer
Krista Morgan
kmorgan@reviewjournal.com

Community Publishing Coordinator
Janet Murphy
jmurphy@reviewjournal.com

Content Producer
Erin O'Donnell
eodonnell@reviewjournal.com

Online Designer
James O'Donnell
jodonnell@reviewjournal.com

Online Technical Manager
Lee Shevchik
lshevchik@reviewjournal.com
Phone: 702.387.5269

Applications Programmer
Elizabeth Dalton
edalton@reviewjournal.com
Phone: 702.224.5524

Applications Programmer
Jason Brooks
jbrooks@reviewjournal.com
Phone: 702.224.5594

Make sure that you use alll contact info that I have posted for you. car dealers that run a shady business must be exposed. I hope that I have helped you in some way.

Dirty car dealer employees must keep in mind that the auto industry deception and Ripp Off's will be exposed.

Foot note to the above Nissan dealer:

Just think how many people will read this Rip Off Report. From last night at 9PM untill right now we have had over 2,248,327 hits. Think about that, and thats less then 22 hours.

The Great Thorn - Rip-off Report Consumer Advocate

Bayville,
New York,
U.S.A.

Regina will this help you expose auto dealer deception ?

#6Consumer Suggestion

Thu, June 19, 2003

The Great Thorn - Rip-off Report Consumer Advocate

Bayville,
New York,
U.S.A.

Regina will this help you expose auto dealer deception ?

#6Consumer Suggestion

Thu, June 19, 2003

The Great Thorn - Rip-off Report Consumer Advocate

Bayville,
New York,
U.S.A.

Regina will this help you expose auto dealer deception ?

#6Consumer Suggestion

Thu, June 19, 2003

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