Complaint Review: United Patent Resources LTD

I'm not exactly sure what the complaint above is about. However, to find out more info on our company and what we're doing to help our clients, please check out our website. The sites listed above are switched, protectaproduct is the site for UPR and licenseaproduct is the site for our affiliate, UNIVERSAL Licensing, not UNITED Licensing. We also have a blog with up-to-date info on the progress of our clients. You can find it through a link on our homepage.

And our clients are always welcome to visit the home office in Maryland and meet with the President of the company directly.

Bottom line, just because someone types scam doesn't make it so. You will have to put money into your own idea. Don't expect that just because it may be a good idea that everyone's going to give you a free ride. I think a little more investigation into what our company actually does would have helped this client. Don't be afraid to talk to your project manager, ask questions, get the facts. To do business you have to trust us just as much as we have to trust that you are serious.

You can always file for a patent on your own, but you run the risk of it being denied (with no refund from the USPTO) or of it not being strong enough that any company wants to buy or license it from you. The initial costs may be more appealing to you but, keep in mind, there is more than one fee involved in getting a patent and eventually you are going to have to spend money trying to sell or license it. This is where UPR provides our clients with an added bonus of working with a licensing attorney who will help to market your patent on a contingency only basis. This means free of charge to you. Their only fee is a 20% commission once your patent is sold or licensed. You'll easily spend tens of thousands of dollars more to do it yourself.

Respectfully submitted,
Amanda Hunt
888-997-7113 x709

You paid UPR, LTD $795 for a patent report.

I am a current customer of UPR. They have been very clear with me...and I have taken the time to read every word of what they have sent, and every word of their website.

Again, for the $795 you get a patent search and a legal recommendation of patentability, and yes, the report has a lot of non-sequitor fluff in it. In my case, the initial recommendation from the UPR contracted Patent Attorney (PA) was that my product, as described by me, was only OK for a provisional patent; not a ringing endorsement.

But then, you have to take the time to learn about the types of patents. There are 5 types:

> Provisional Patent Application,
> Non-provisional (Utility) Patent Application,
> Design Patent Application,
> Plant Patent Application, and
> International Application.

The provisional patent is not reviewed by the USPTO...it just sits on file for one year to give you a chance to improve and complete the patent application, or to try and market the idea, or whatever suits your fancy but, at the end of 12 months it expires, unless you apply for one the other 4 patents forms that DO get reviewed by the USPTO.

Once you have your report, if you have nothing more to add, that's it...you got what you paid for.
In the report is a contract for if you want to take the next step; which is to actually apply for a patent of any kind. The agreement presents the opportunity' to apply for any and all types, but that is your choice.
Just because you get a 'provisional patent' recommendation from the PA doesn't mean you can't apply for a 'real' patent. If you have the faith, the money, or are fool hardy enough to go beyond the PA's recommendation you paid for...go for it. UPR will be glad to help, and who knows, you might get lucky.

Now, for one more time, for the $795 you get a patent search and a legal recommendation of patentability. After I received my report, Al Lever explained that the best patent position would be to have the PA recommend your idea for a non-provisional (utility) patent application, unless you are in agriculture.

So, I needed to redefine (and expand the details of) my idea, then Al, or somebody at UPR, resubmitted it to the PA, the PA did a new search based on my new material, and recommended the idea for a Utility patent application. UPR then re-issued the changed elements of my report, all for no extra charge.

At this point, I now have to decide if I want to put up the $10K for the next step.

What is the next step? Well,

> UPR will have the PA prepare the Non-Provisional (Utility ) Patent Application and submit it. Currently, the USPTO is backlogged by some crazy amount of time like 1-1/2 to 2 years to complete approval. Even then, the USPTO may reject the application with specifics. If the rejections are 'objectionable' the PA will help modify the application and re-prosecute the application, no extra charge. If you think you can do all this yourself without a specialized law degree, you better go look at a bunch of completed patents.

> Once submitted, the USPTO will immediately assign a 'Patent Pending' (PP) status to the application. This gives you enough protection to take your idea to market. Don't want to build a factory and make the d**n thing yourself? Neither do I. Nevertheless, I do have something to sell; the right for somebody else to make my product.

> To that end, UPR will submit the PP idea to Universal Licensing (UL), who will take to trade shows and post it on the internet where appropriate, to find buyers (interested manufacturers/vendors) for my hot idea. Now remember, UL makes money selling licenses. Did I write a check to UL? Nope. So, it looks to me like they gotta' sell somethin' ta git somethin'.

That is what you get for the next level investment. For $10K you get all that.

Can you do it yourself for less? Be my guest. Like you would even know where to begin.

How much should this cost?

I think $10K is pretty fair. Will UPR try to get you to buy a set of international patents? Do organizations try to up sell clients? Duh! It's a business, not a non-profit. What did you expect? Do you really get mad when the car salesman tries to sell you undercoating, or the cable company tries to sell you HBO? You might want HBO!

UPR has been crystal clear with me. I do know you must take the time to really read the materials, it is your responsibility to really take the time to understand the structure of the process, and you must really think it all the way thru before you go and blame others for your own mis-interpretations of the information presented.

In none of these complaints did I see any correct interpretation of the information. Nor did I see any complaint made after the complainer went all the way to prosecuting for the patent and attempting to sell/license the PP.

I did see a lot of people thinking they were going to get a patent search, a patent application written and submitted/approved, and a sales force assigned to their idea for $795. What were they thinking.

Sure, UPR piles on the info, and it is easy to confuse the future with the task at hand, but if you don't know where you are going, why would you start?

Dudes and Dudettes, clean up you complaints to make them accurate, then see if they hold water. They leak like a sieve right now.

You paid UPR, LTD $795 for a patent report.

I am a current customer of UPR. They have been very clear with me...and I have taken the time to read every word of what they have sent, and every word of their website.

Again, for the $795 you get a patent search and a legal recommendation of patentability, and yes, the report has a lot of non-sequitor fluff in it. In my case, the initial recommendation from the UPR contracted Patent Attorney (PA) was that my product, as described by me, was only OK for a provisional patent; not a ringing endorsement.

But then, you have to take the time to learn about the types of patents. There are 5 types:

> Provisional Patent Application,
> Non-provisional (Utility) Patent Application,
> Design Patent Application,
> Plant Patent Application, and
> International Application.

The provisional patent is not reviewed by the USPTO...it just sits on file for one year to give you a chance to improve and complete the patent application, or to try and market the idea, or whatever suits your fancy but, at the end of 12 months it expires, unless you apply for one the other 4 patents forms that DO get reviewed by the USPTO.

Once you have your report, if you have nothing more to add, that's it...you got what you paid for.
In the report is a contract for if you want to take the next step; which is to actually apply for a patent of any kind. The agreement presents the opportunity' to apply for any and all types, but that is your choice.
Just because you get a 'provisional patent' recommendation from the PA doesn't mean you can't apply for a 'real' patent. If you have the faith, the money, or are fool hardy enough to go beyond the PA's recommendation you paid for...go for it. UPR will be glad to help, and who knows, you might get lucky.

Now, for one more time, for the $795 you get a patent search and a legal recommendation of patentability. After I received my report, Al Lever explained that the best patent position would be to have the PA recommend your idea for a non-provisional (utility) patent application, unless you are in agriculture.

So, I needed to redefine (and expand the details of) my idea, then Al, or somebody at UPR, resubmitted it to the PA, the PA did a new search based on my new material, and recommended the idea for a Utility patent application. UPR then re-issued the changed elements of my report, all for no extra charge.

At this point, I now have to decide if I want to put up the $10K for the next step.

What is the next step? Well,

> UPR will have the PA prepare the Non-Provisional (Utility ) Patent Application and submit it. Currently, the USPTO is backlogged by some crazy amount of time like 1-1/2 to 2 years to complete approval. Even then, the USPTO may reject the application with specifics. If the rejections are 'objectionable' the PA will help modify the application and re-prosecute the application, no extra charge. If you think you can do all this yourself without a specialized law degree, you better go look at a bunch of completed patents.

> Once submitted, the USPTO will immediately assign a 'Patent Pending' (PP) status to the application. This gives you enough protection to take your idea to market. Don't want to build a factory and make the d**n thing yourself? Neither do I. Nevertheless, I do have something to sell; the right for somebody else to make my product.

> To that end, UPR will submit the PP idea to Universal Licensing (UL), who will take to trade shows and post it on the internet where appropriate, to find buyers (interested manufacturers/vendors) for my hot idea. Now remember, UL makes money selling licenses. Did I write a check to UL? Nope. So, it looks to me like they gotta' sell somethin' ta git somethin'.

That is what you get for the next level investment. For $10K you get all that.

Can you do it yourself for less? Be my guest. Like you would even know where to begin.

How much should this cost?

I think $10K is pretty fair. Will UPR try to get you to buy a set of international patents? Do organizations try to up sell clients? Duh! It's a business, not a non-profit. What did you expect? Do you really get mad when the car salesman tries to sell you undercoating, or the cable company tries to sell you HBO? You might want HBO!

UPR has been crystal clear with me. I do know you must take the time to really read the materials, it is your responsibility to really take the time to understand the structure of the process, and you must really think it all the way thru before you go and blame others for your own mis-interpretations of the information presented.

In none of these complaints did I see any correct interpretation of the information. Nor did I see any complaint made after the complainer went all the way to prosecuting for the patent and attempting to sell/license the PP.

I did see a lot of people thinking they were going to get a patent search, a patent application written and submitted/approved, and a sales force assigned to their idea for $795. What were they thinking.

Sure, UPR piles on the info, and it is easy to confuse the future with the task at hand, but if you don't know where you are going, why would you start?

Dudes and Dudettes, clean up you complaints to make them accurate, then see if they hold water. They leak like a sieve right now.

You paid UPR, LTD $795 for a patent report.

I am a current customer of UPR. They have been very clear with me...and I have taken the time to read every word of what they have sent, and every word of their website.

Again, for the $795 you get a patent search and a legal recommendation of patentability, and yes, the report has a lot of non-sequitor fluff in it. In my case, the initial recommendation from the UPR contracted Patent Attorney (PA) was that my product, as described by me, was only OK for a provisional patent; not a ringing endorsement.

But then, you have to take the time to learn about the types of patents. There are 5 types:

> Provisional Patent Application,
> Non-provisional (Utility) Patent Application,
> Design Patent Application,
> Plant Patent Application, and
> International Application.

The provisional patent is not reviewed by the USPTO...it just sits on file for one year to give you a chance to improve and complete the patent application, or to try and market the idea, or whatever suits your fancy but, at the end of 12 months it expires, unless you apply for one the other 4 patents forms that DO get reviewed by the USPTO.

Once you have your report, if you have nothing more to add, that's it...you got what you paid for.
In the report is a contract for if you want to take the next step; which is to actually apply for a patent of any kind. The agreement presents the opportunity' to apply for any and all types, but that is your choice.
Just because you get a 'provisional patent' recommendation from the PA doesn't mean you can't apply for a 'real' patent. If you have the faith, the money, or are fool hardy enough to go beyond the PA's recommendation you paid for...go for it. UPR will be glad to help, and who knows, you might get lucky.

Now, for one more time, for the $795 you get a patent search and a legal recommendation of patentability. After I received my report, Al Lever explained that the best patent position would be to have the PA recommend your idea for a non-provisional (utility) patent application, unless you are in agriculture.

So, I needed to redefine (and expand the details of) my idea, then Al, or somebody at UPR, resubmitted it to the PA, the PA did a new search based on my new material, and recommended the idea for a Utility patent application. UPR then re-issued the changed elements of my report, all for no extra charge.

At this point, I now have to decide if I want to put up the $10K for the next step.

What is the next step? Well,

> UPR will have the PA prepare the Non-Provisional (Utility ) Patent Application and submit it. Currently, the USPTO is backlogged by some crazy amount of time like 1-1/2 to 2 years to complete approval. Even then, the USPTO may reject the application with specifics. If the rejections are 'objectionable' the PA will help modify the application and re-prosecute the application, no extra charge. If you think you can do all this yourself without a specialized law degree, you better go look at a bunch of completed patents.

> Once submitted, the USPTO will immediately assign a 'Patent Pending' (PP) status to the application. This gives you enough protection to take your idea to market. Don't want to build a factory and make the d**n thing yourself? Neither do I. Nevertheless, I do have something to sell; the right for somebody else to make my product.

> To that end, UPR will submit the PP idea to Universal Licensing (UL), who will take to trade shows and post it on the internet where appropriate, to find buyers (interested manufacturers/vendors) for my hot idea. Now remember, UL makes money selling licenses. Did I write a check to UL? Nope. So, it looks to me like they gotta' sell somethin' ta git somethin'.

That is what you get for the next level investment. For $10K you get all that.

Can you do it yourself for less? Be my guest. Like you would even know where to begin.

How much should this cost?

I think $10K is pretty fair. Will UPR try to get you to buy a set of international patents? Do organizations try to up sell clients? Duh! It's a business, not a non-profit. What did you expect? Do you really get mad when the car salesman tries to sell you undercoating, or the cable company tries to sell you HBO? You might want HBO!

UPR has been crystal clear with me. I do know you must take the time to really read the materials, it is your responsibility to really take the time to understand the structure of the process, and you must really think it all the way thru before you go and blame others for your own mis-interpretations of the information presented.

In none of these complaints did I see any correct interpretation of the information. Nor did I see any complaint made after the complainer went all the way to prosecuting for the patent and attempting to sell/license the PP.

I did see a lot of people thinking they were going to get a patent search, a patent application written and submitted/approved, and a sales force assigned to their idea for $795. What were they thinking.

Sure, UPR piles on the info, and it is easy to confuse the future with the task at hand, but if you don't know where you are going, why would you start?

Dudes and Dudettes, clean up you complaints to make them accurate, then see if they hold water. They leak like a sieve right now.

You paid UPR, LTD $795 for a patent report.

I am a current customer of UPR. They have been very clear with me...and I have taken the time to read every word of what they have sent, and every word of their website.

Again, for the $795 you get a patent search and a legal recommendation of patentability, and yes, the report has a lot of non-sequitor fluff in it. In my case, the initial recommendation from the UPR contracted Patent Attorney (PA) was that my product, as described by me, was only OK for a provisional patent; not a ringing endorsement.

But then, you have to take the time to learn about the types of patents. There are 5 types:

> Provisional Patent Application,
> Non-provisional (Utility) Patent Application,
> Design Patent Application,
> Plant Patent Application, and
> International Application.

The provisional patent is not reviewed by the USPTO...it just sits on file for one year to give you a chance to improve and complete the patent application, or to try and market the idea, or whatever suits your fancy but, at the end of 12 months it expires, unless you apply for one the other 4 patents forms that DO get reviewed by the USPTO.

Once you have your report, if you have nothing more to add, that's it...you got what you paid for.
In the report is a contract for if you want to take the next step; which is to actually apply for a patent of any kind. The agreement presents the opportunity' to apply for any and all types, but that is your choice.
Just because you get a 'provisional patent' recommendation from the PA doesn't mean you can't apply for a 'real' patent. If you have the faith, the money, or are fool hardy enough to go beyond the PA's recommendation you paid for...go for it. UPR will be glad to help, and who knows, you might get lucky.

Now, for one more time, for the $795 you get a patent search and a legal recommendation of patentability. After I received my report, Al Lever explained that the best patent position would be to have the PA recommend your idea for a non-provisional (utility) patent application, unless you are in agriculture.

So, I needed to redefine (and expand the details of) my idea, then Al, or somebody at UPR, resubmitted it to the PA, the PA did a new search based on my new material, and recommended the idea for a Utility patent application. UPR then re-issued the changed elements of my report, all for no extra charge.

At this point, I now have to decide if I want to put up the $10K for the next step.

What is the next step? Well,

> UPR will have the PA prepare the Non-Provisional (Utility ) Patent Application and submit it. Currently, the USPTO is backlogged by some crazy amount of time like 1-1/2 to 2 years to complete approval. Even then, the USPTO may reject the application with specifics. If the rejections are 'objectionable' the PA will help modify the application and re-prosecute the application, no extra charge. If you think you can do all this yourself without a specialized law degree, you better go look at a bunch of completed patents.

> Once submitted, the USPTO will immediately assign a 'Patent Pending' (PP) status to the application. This gives you enough protection to take your idea to market. Don't want to build a factory and make the d**n thing yourself? Neither do I. Nevertheless, I do have something to sell; the right for somebody else to make my product.

> To that end, UPR will submit the PP idea to Universal Licensing (UL), who will take to trade shows and post it on the internet where appropriate, to find buyers (interested manufacturers/vendors) for my hot idea. Now remember, UL makes money selling licenses. Did I write a check to UL? Nope. So, it looks to me like they gotta' sell somethin' ta git somethin'.

That is what you get for the next level investment. For $10K you get all that.

Can you do it yourself for less? Be my guest. Like you would even know where to begin.

How much should this cost?

I think $10K is pretty fair. Will UPR try to get you to buy a set of international patents? Do organizations try to up sell clients? Duh! It's a business, not a non-profit. What did you expect? Do you really get mad when the car salesman tries to sell you undercoating, or the cable company tries to sell you HBO? You might want HBO!

UPR has been crystal clear with me. I do know you must take the time to really read the materials, it is your responsibility to really take the time to understand the structure of the process, and you must really think it all the way thru before you go and blame others for your own mis-interpretations of the information presented.

In none of these complaints did I see any correct interpretation of the information. Nor did I see any complaint made after the complainer went all the way to prosecuting for the patent and attempting to sell/license the PP.

I did see a lot of people thinking they were going to get a patent search, a patent application written and submitted/approved, and a sales force assigned to their idea for $795. What were they thinking.

Sure, UPR piles on the info, and it is easy to confuse the future with the task at hand, but if you don't know where you are going, why would you start?

Dudes and Dudettes, clean up you complaints to make them accurate, then see if they hold water. They leak like a sieve right now.

United Patent Resources LTD And Universal Licensing There are several comments on Rip off Report about how they scammed people and telling them how they will help them asking for $785 at first to make a portfolio and just keep asking for money after that acording to other people comments.
Thanks for your comments that stopped me from writting a check to a voice on the phone.