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Complaint Review: US FIDELIS

US FIDELIS HUGE SCAM!!OUTRAGEOUS LIES!! Roseville California

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    Roseville California
  • Submitted:
    Thu, January 29, 2009
  • Updated:
    Fri, March 20, 2009
  • US FIDELIS
    usfidelis.com
    Roseville, California
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    800-649-1856
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READ THIS BEFORE CONSIDERING A WARRANTY THRU US FIDELIS
OUTRAGEOUS LIES AND SCAM!!!!

I have 2002 Range Rover. My extended warranty was to end at the end of Dec. 2008. I had seen the same commercials as everyone else of the "no worries" warranty offered by US Fidelis broadcasted on television in California. I called Dec. 1, 2008 and spoke to an employee by the name of Chris at 800-649-1856, ext. 8767. He explained that they could offer me an extended warranty for 5 years or 150,000 miles.

The warranty would have no deductible, 24 hour roadside assistance, rental car coverage of $150.00 per day for the duration of the repairs!, and towing up to $100.00. The rental car allowance sounded incredibly high, so I questioned him about this. He put me on hold and spoke with his supervisor, and then assured me it was "correct, we want you to be able to rent a car equal to your beautiful Range Rover". I questioned this several times and was assured it was $150.00 per day.

I also questioned him about the company. He assured me they had been in business for 23 years helping people. I questioned him extensively about what the "power train" covered. He went through a list that the warranty covered the engine, transmission, water pump, drive axel, assembly, air conditioner, heater fan, alternator, starter motor, voltage regulator, power window motors, and seals and gaskets. I asked him specifically about the parts that would be used should I need repairs. Did they use generic parts or did they use Land Rover parts? He told me not only did they us brand name parts from the dealer, but they "did not allow generic parts". He assured me I could continue to take my beautiful Range Rover to the dealer who has serviced it since I've owned it. He assured me they would pay for everything with a corporate credit card and I would pay nothing from my pocket. All of this amazing coverage would only cost me $2975.oo!

I asked if he would email something to me showing the coverage before I made a decision. Unfortunately, they had nothing to send, but not to worry; I would receive the policy within 10 days. I could review it and cancel should I not want it.

I hesitated somewhat, he put me on hold and came back with a new number of $2600.00! What a deal!! I was especially impressed by the fact that I would only have pay an initial payment on the spot of $135.00 and pay only $103.00 per month for 24 months. After two years my warranty would be paid in full and the remaining time would cost me nothing. I gave him my payment information and felt relieved that my vehicle would be covered for some time to come. He congratulated me and assured me I was covered as of when the first payment was processed.

When I went to make my first claim, I found out otherwise. He gave me his personal extension, the hours he worked, and said to call him if I ever had any questions. After more than two weeks I received a letter (on US Fidelis letterhead) stating I would receive my "product and policy" within 7-10 business days. I waited for my policy from "US Fidelis", Christmas approached, and I went out of town. When I returned, I did not find anything from US Fidelis.

As I sorted through all of my junk mail that had arrived while I was gone, I came across a small box from Consumer Direct Warranty Service. In spite of thinking this was probably a solicitation, I opened it and discovered this was my warranty agreement. I looked through the small booklet and it appeared at first glance to be what I was told with the exception of the rental car allowance. It was $150.00 total, not per day as I was assured. I thought it was still a good deal and the rental car issue I could live with. I was confused by the name on the booklet, CDWS Direct Service Quality Vehicle Protection, but just assumed this is what "US Fidelis" called their warranty. Everything Chris had told me led me to believe that I was purchasing a US Fidelis warranty. He never mentioned they were a broker for other companies.

Coming home from Lake Tahoe on Sunday, Jan. 25th, my Range Rover broke down on the side of the road. I immediately called the number on the card provided with my warranty information for my "roadside assistance" and got a recording stating this was the "claims" number and to call back Monday-Friday during the hours of 8-5. I located several numbers in all of the information I had and finally reached a person with US Fidelis. The person answered the phone, immediately asked for my zip code (I found this strange). I gave him the zip code, he immediately rambled off that this product was not available in my state. It was very clear he intended to hang up and I asked him to stop, that I purchased this warranty last month. He asked for the zip code again, once again he told me it was not available in my state and hung up the phone before I had a chance to say a word.

I of course called back immediately, reached a woman, asked her to please not hang up on me. She agreed and asked for my information and told me the same thing as the first person. I explained my situation, but she could only apologize and suggest I call the number on my card Monday morning. At least she was polite with some regret of my situation. Needless to say, I was absolutely livid. I called my auto insurance company and used the roadside assistance provided through that policy and had the vehicle towed to my home.

Monday morning I called the number on my card and explained what had happened. They first asked me for the mileage. When I questioned this, I was informed that I would have to have traveled more than 500 miles before I could submit a claim. Luckily, I had traveled more than that; otherwise I would not have been covered. In the booklet provided it states that 1st Day & 1st Mile Benefits Begin On The Date and Mileage of Product Warranty Purchase. Following this, it states 15 Days & 500 Miles Benefits On The 16th Day and 501st Mile From The Product Warranty Purchase Date. I am extremely confused by this, as the only difference is the word Date at the end of the sentence. Since Chris had told me my warranty would take effect immediately, I assumed the first sentence to be correct.

They argued with me that I was covered on the date of purchase; however I could not make a claim until 501 miles had been traveled. I questioned how I could possibly have been covered if they would not have paid for the repairs had I not exceeded 500 miles. I never received an answer other than yes, you were covered, but no, we would not have paid for anything during that time. I let it go since it did not affect my claim. They were incredibly rude, but told me what Land Rover needed to do to get approval.

I had to have the vehicle towed to the dealership at my expense, which should be reimbursed. I faxed a copy of the receipt yesterday and hope not to have a problem. Once the vehicle was towed to Land Rover, they diagnosed the problem to be the alternator. Luckily this was covered, and Land Rover requested the necessary documents to make the claim.

As of Tuesday they had not received anything from "CDWS", I called and they said it was in the claims process and something would be sent to the dealership shortly. I called Land Rover late in the afternoon to make sure they had received everything and they told me they had only received a questionnaire asking if the oil was clean, etc.. I once again called "CDWS" and was told they had been bombarded with claims and process them in the order received, and that Land Rover should received something by mid-morning Wednesday.

In the meantime, the time clock is ticking on the rental car coverage and Land Rover can't order the alternator until they received approval from the warranty company. At last, as promised, they received approval Wednesday morning to replace the "water pump"! I of course called them again and was told it was a mistake and they would fax a corrected approval to Land Rover. Finally we're moving along. In spite of the aggravation, I was just glad to move forward. That is, until Land Rover called again. Yes, they did receive approval from "CDWS" for the alternator. However, the total cost for the repair was approximately $1300.00 ($400.00 for labor and approximately $900.00 for the part). The approval allowed the labor cost, but only allowed $216.00 for the part.

Once again I called "CDWS" and was told if they could find a generic or refurbished part that is was to be used. The first problem is that is the exact opposite of what I was told by Chris at US Fidelis... not only do we not use generic parts, but we don't even allow anything but factory parts from the dealership.

The second problem is now my car is at a "Qualified Repair Facility", Land Rover, and they will not use parts other than factory parts. I'm stuck with a more than $66 difference I have to pay in order for my car not to be held hostage. Of course I have argued with "CDWS", only to be referred to page four of my booklet which states "Covered Components will be replaced with like kind and quality based on Administrator's discretion". "Like kind and quality" does not mean to me anything other than factory part from Land Rover, especially given the dealership will not use the part they want to ship.

Needless to say "CDWS" refuses to pay anything more. I have only two choices that I can see. I can go ahead and let Land Rover repair the vehicle and pay the difference out of pocket or find another "Qualified Repair Facility" that will use the refurbished part that "CDWS" will send and pay out of pocket to have my car towed there. Either way, money comes from my pocket that should be covered, and/or I have an inferior part, certainly not what I was promised by US Fidelis.

I am outraged by the blatant lies told by Chris at US Fidelis. And yes, I called him Monday morning about the so called "Roadside Assistance". When I spoke to him I wasn't aware of the other problems ahead. Although I spoke to Chris at ext. 8767, he informed me he was a "different" Chris than the one I had spoken to previously. I doubt that to be the case and find it unlikely, but I have no way of knowing for sure, and I don't think it will make a difference anyway. In any event, he informed me I do not have the roadside assistance that the "other" Chris had promised.

I expressed my displeasure in the events that had taken place when my car died on the side of the road and the events that followed that evening. Needless to say, that got me nowhere.

After all of the other issues that came about following my conversation with the "other" Chris on Monday, I called on Wednesday and spoke to a very nice and professional lady by the name of Lyla. Although she wasn't able to offer any assistance, she assured me my complaint would be investigated and someone should contact me within 24-48 hours. I hope this will be the case as the 48 hours have not passed. I asked if their conversations were recorded and she said they were. Of course there is no way they can provide me with a copy of my conversation with the "original" Chris, which is no surprise.

I have no doubt this warranty will continue to be a problem. I am unsure of where to go from here, but will continue to investigate this company's deceptive practices and file complaints with the proper authorities. Luckily, I took extensive notes during our conversation; therefore I have a very precise recollection of what I was promised.

If anyone else has been a victim of their blatant lies, please do not stand by and allow them to continue. This is causing a financial hardship for me and I feel certain I am not the first. I urge you to file complaints with anyone and everyone you can. Otherwise, we will all remain victims of a company who profits from their deceptive practices. As one person, I don't know how far I can pursue this, as a group there may be more that can be accomplished.

If anyone is enticed by their seductive commercials of "peace of mind", I urge you to think twice. Although other warranties may cost more or require a larger down payment, hopefully they are legitimate and will provide the services promised.

Lisa
Roseville, California
U.S.A.

7 Updates & Rebuttals


Joe In Mo

St. Louis,
Missouri,
U.S.A.

FEDELIS GOT US TOO--WHY RUSTY???

#8Consumer Suggestion

Fri, March 20, 2009

we made the mistake of falling for one of the commercials talking about peace of mind and it has been nothing but total harassment ever since. ive never met such rude people in my whole life. just like the first person said, we were big fans of rusty wallace for years but not anymore. why didnt he check out these guys first before they kill his boys career? everyone should write him on his website (((Redacted))) and ask him

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Former Employee

Wentzville,
Missouri,
U.S.A.

Contact your state attorney general

#8UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, February 20, 2009

I urge everyone to go to the website for their state attorney general.

For me, I "GOOGLED" Missouri attorney general and it was the first link that came up in the search.

These slimeballs will only be stopped if everyone reports their complaints to the
proper authorities.

I hated working there! I never saw so much unethical, rude, and fraudulent behavior taking place all at once! I feel so sad for the trusting people that are out there still being persuaded by the misleading commercials!


Fred

California,
California,
U.S.A.

US Fidelis

#8Consumer Comment

Fri, February 06, 2009

To everyone here,

Yes, US Fidelis is the most unethical company I have come across (next to the US government). Finding an up-front and honest business ethic is most repugnant to them.

They may have won the initial $195.00 I paid in December, but all subsequent charges have been refunded by my bank and I changed my bank account number.

Folks, stay away from these cretins (US Fidelis). They will not be there to back up a claim. I have never experienced such a condecending tone since I told my 7 year old he could not have an X box.


Fred


Johnny

LOS ANGELES,
California,
U.S.A.

Harrassment!

#8Consumer Comment

Thu, February 05, 2009

Luckily I read some of these comments before my warranty kicked in, so I was able to cancel it. But trust me, it wasn't easy!

What reputable company harassing the heck out of you when you call to cancel something? No joke, this woman on the phone asked me 10 times why I wanted to cancel. I was at work, busy, and said "i don't want the policy, please just cancel" and she wouldn't take that for an answer. I'm not kidding, she responded back, "but why sir?" over and over and over. I raised my voice at my desk at work to a point where everyone sitting around me looked over.

I was shocked at how they handled the situation. Finally, after going back and forth with her, she put me on hold and came back telling me she got me $200 off if I wanted to keep it. So basically, I just made an instant $200 by complaining! It was unbelievable! I told her NO, please cancel. And she finally said ok and took my information for the cancellation.

I've never experienced something like that in my life and it leads me to believe without a doubt that I made the right decision by getting away from these people!


Fred

California,
California,
U.S.A.

US Fidelis is indeed a ripoff company

#8Consumer Comment

Thu, February 05, 2009

I agree with earlier postings.

I caught US Fidelis (aka: CDWS) only after the initial charge of $195 and a subsequent $126.51 charge and despite my numerous (9+) requests they refuse to reply to my request for what is required of me to assure my coverage as promised in their advertisements.

You cannot get a straight answer from these people. I am suing them civilally for breech of contract.

Folks, DO NOT BUY anything from this company. They are SCUMBAGS and liars!!!!


Fred
Placerville, Ca


Undercover

Frisco,
Texas,
U.S.A.

Response to LIsa In Californis : Re Scam and lies

#8Consumer Comment

Thu, February 05, 2009

Lisa,

While I am not an employee (either current or former) of any of these direct marketing firms, through my former occupation, I have acquired first hand knowledge of how they work and how they are structured, which may help you. My background has been in the automotive field, primarily representing independant "Vehicle Service Contract" (Extended Warranty) Companies.

Three years ago I was approached (through an "agent") by one of the larger players in the Direct Marketing Industry to explore the possibility of (THEM)representing one of our products. It sounded great as the market could have supported hundreds if not thousands of these contracts being sold, resulting in a windfall profit for my company and great commissions for me. However, my conservative and professional management saw fit not to pursue this type of business as claims and cancellations were projected to be very high and CSI (yes - Customer Satisfaction) would have been very low. In other words, the Risk was not offset by the potential Reward. Thank Heaven that managment had this foresight to think that REPUTATION was more valuable than the " Almighty Buck".

Because of this background, I feel confident in making the following statements.

Research will show that there are several dozen of these direct marketing firms, primarily focused in the St. Louis area, with most of them (of not all) having several common demominators, as follows:

#1
Many of the management of these various firms have all worked together at one time or another. They see how the "Big Boys" have done it and want to make their fortune in the same way.

#2
They resell products marketed to them by other companies (vendors) with varying reputations. They do not, for the most part, market products of their own design or backing.

#3
They choose the products to resell based primarily on the "Wholesale" price given them. If Company "A" has the exact same listed coverages as Company "B", but charges $300 less which one would you sell for the same Retail Price (provided you are paid a commission)? However, the cheaper price usually means that the company (Company A in this case) is putting less aside to pay claims (called reserves) and somewhere along the road, will start denying claims based on whatever they can dream up or, worst case, simply fold up shop.

#4
Training by the vendor supplying the product, within the organizations is usually not allowed. They want to train their own way. Obviously, product knowledge is not a focus or that individual would have known about the rentalcar coverage.

#5
Most states require a 100% refund to the consumer if a refund has been requested and no claims have been filed, provided the refund has been requested in writing within the first 30 days of the contract period. Some states require that this period be extended to 60 days. After that, you are entitled to a prorated refund, typically less a small administrative fee ($25 -$50). In some extreme cases, a Service Contract Company may refuse to refund you anything if you have filed and have received payment of claims that exceed the purchase price of the contract.

#6
There are states that the telemarketing of Vehicle Service Contracts is pure and simple, ILLEGAL. If I am not mistaken, the state of California is one of these states.

You need to check with the state Attorney General and/or the state Department of Insurance. I believe they will be happy to help you.

Hope I have helped you.


Former Employee

Wentzville,
Missouri,
U.S.A.

GO TO YOUR STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL...I URGE YOU

#8UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, January 30, 2009

PLEASE go to your state attorney general or contact the one in Missouri. This company has been in trouble with the attorney general in Missouri already but under the names of DEALER SERVICES///NAWS///NATIONAL AUTO WARRANTY SERVICES. Don't believe me? Go to the Attorney General Website and you will find out. Also go to Better Business Bureau for St. Louis Missouri area and see that they have a grade of F. Search for Dealer Services and when you scroll down you will see that they have done business under these other names.

How do I know so much? I use to work there. I don't know why they don't get further investigated. I guess because the owners have alot of money. Money Talks. If you continue to look throughout this website you will see several posts I have made regarding the company.

SADLY, Rusty Wallace racing is being sponsored by this company for NASCAR this year. Obviously, Wallace did not research them first. Or it is just about the money as well. He is going to be a spokesperson for them? I have lost all my respect for Rusty Wallace and he use to be one of my husband and I's favorite drivers. By the way, his son Steve will be driving the car.

Tell the NEWSPAPERS, tell TV and Radio stations of what has happened to you...copy and paste this letter....which by the way sounds way too familiar to me. SAD....

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