Complaint Review: V. Allen Spicer

I wanted to let all know that the initial message from "The staff Charleston, South Carolina U.S.A" was indeed not agreed upon. I have no idea who wrote the message, but I do know as a former employee of DSIC I would have never written such a rude and distasteful message.

Allen did a lot of bad things to good people, but what makes you any different writing nasty messages? Let it rest--Allen got his judgement from the courts. And most of all he will get his judgement from his maker.

I agree with nothing that Allen did and he had a direct effect on my family.

I am sorry that his family in Georgia had to read such a disgusting message. Rest assured that this was not from all of the staff.

I really would like to believe that deep in his heart Allen regretted everything that he did to his family, friends, and employees. I think he just got caught up in a bad situation and never tried to get out of it and bad escalated into worse. We will all probably never know the truth, so for the sake of the family's, rude messages (whether true or not) should not have to be read.

I wanted to let all know that the initial message from "The staff Charleston, South Carolina U.S.A" was indeed not agreed upon. I have no idea who wrote the message, but I do know as a former employee of DSIC I would have never written such a rude and distasteful message.

Allen did a lot of bad things to good people, but what makes you any different writing nasty messages? Let it rest--Allen got his judgement from the courts. And most of all he will get his judgement from his maker.

I agree with nothing that Allen did and he had a direct effect on my family.

I am sorry that his family in Georgia had to read such a disgusting message. Rest assured that this was not from all of the staff.

I really would like to believe that deep in his heart Allen regretted everything that he did to his family, friends, and employees. I think he just got caught up in a bad situation and never tried to get out of it and bad escalated into worse. We will all probably never know the truth, so for the sake of the family's, rude messages (whether true or not) should not have to be read.

I wanted to let all know that the initial message from "The staff Charleston, South Carolina U.S.A" was indeed not agreed upon. I have no idea who wrote the message, but I do know as a former employee of DSIC I would have never written such a rude and distasteful message.

Allen did a lot of bad things to good people, but what makes you any different writing nasty messages? Let it rest--Allen got his judgement from the courts. And most of all he will get his judgement from his maker.

I agree with nothing that Allen did and he had a direct effect on my family.

I am sorry that his family in Georgia had to read such a disgusting message. Rest assured that this was not from all of the staff.

I really would like to believe that deep in his heart Allen regretted everything that he did to his family, friends, and employees. I think he just got caught up in a bad situation and never tried to get out of it and bad escalated into worse. We will all probably never know the truth, so for the sake of the family's, rude messages (whether true or not) should not have to be read.

I wanted to let all know that the initial message from "The staff Charleston, South Carolina U.S.A" was indeed not agreed upon. I have no idea who wrote the message, but I do know as a former employee of DSIC I would have never written such a rude and distasteful message.

Allen did a lot of bad things to good people, but what makes you any different writing nasty messages? Let it rest--Allen got his judgement from the courts. And most of all he will get his judgement from his maker.

I agree with nothing that Allen did and he had a direct effect on my family.

I am sorry that his family in Georgia had to read such a disgusting message. Rest assured that this was not from all of the staff.

I really would like to believe that deep in his heart Allen regretted everything that he did to his family, friends, and employees. I think he just got caught up in a bad situation and never tried to get out of it and bad escalated into worse. We will all probably never know the truth, so for the sake of the family's, rude messages (whether true or not) should not have to be read.

Brian, I am so glad you replied. I totally support your every word. I am not as good with words as you are and am proud that you took the appropriate steps with your fathers death. I hope you continue to what you feel is right and shed some light to the whole situation. Your true family is behind you 100% and feel that the (2) family had no respect nor compassion for anyone other then themselves.

May God Bless you, your sister and Grandparents

Dear Mr. Jones:

It seems that you would be the one that is "misguided and tasteless". It must be a small and narrow world that you live in up in Norfolk based on the perceptions of reality in your mind.

You mention that "Allen was one of the finest men that you know" and that Allen "sought to do nothing other than to take care of his family with honor and pride". Incase you didn't know, the Allen that you speak of is the same Allen that left his wife in the early the 70's only to leave and not look back, leaving a single mom to raise two kids that were fathered by Allen. This Allen, the "honorable" one was forced to look back and face the South Carolina Justice System when he was sued for alimony that he did not pay for sixteen (16) years. The justice system does not look kindly on "honorable" naval officers that leave a family to support themselves. It was not a monetary issue that Allen was sued but an ethical and moral issue, ones he would have to face further down the road in his life.

This Allen that you speak of is the same Allen that also turned his back on two of the most loving and caring people on this earth, his parents. For what reason, no one really knows but can only assume that the grieving Betty Spicer had all control of. Allen was quick to forget the two people that loved him the most and always did regardless of how he treated them, but he was quick to seek them whenever he found himself in a monetary situation that he could not get himself of.

You speak of "the families in mourning"...I am sure that you did not know that people were not notified about his death until nine (9) days after the fact. This would include his parents that had to find out from a telephone call from Miguel and inform them that the only son that they had was killed in some sort of hunting accident. The mourning widow Betty to this day has not returned one phone call to his parents or to anyone else for that matter. The same goes for Kristen, Miguel, Lisa and Brett. I would like to thank Miguel for having the respect or the guilt that he had inside of him when he made the call to Allen's parents. For the others in Allen's second (2nd) family, I am sure that that everyone knows who is controlling your thoughts, your emotions and your lives.

With regard to the mourning widow Betty, why the secret about Allen's death? Why was there no obituary notice placed in any publication? Why a cremation the day after his death and a burial a sea due to his "request"? Was it to cover something up that you did possibly? Was it in order to receive insurance money from his death, which by the way is still under investigation and his death has not been classified as an "accident" and will not be until the investigation is over from the Watauga County Sheriff's office or the NC Bureau of Investigations. Whatever the plan was mourning widow Betty, it did not work. You did not count on anyone finding out about the legal issues that Allen once again found himself facing, did you? But, I did and from my lips to God's ears, I will and will continue to do my part in hindering you or your grieving children the ability to receive any financial gain from Allen's death. As you see, I am the oldest son and with that have all the powers that be to protest a will once you decide to probate it. Count on it.

With regard to you Mr. Jones, I am sorry that you are the one that has been misguided from information from the mourning widow Betty. I assume this because you mention me specifically by name which is fine to do, but why would you call me out specifically? I am sure the majority of people reading this would all agree that the mourning widow Betty gave you "tasteless" information that misguided your perception of the facts at hand. Lies posted in public? Might you be speaking of the obituaries for one of "the finest men" that you knew? No lies, just a son doing what was right, as everyone, no matter what they neither have nor have not done in their life deserves an obituary. Obviously the mourning widow Betty and the mourning second (2nd) family did not honor their husband or their father...maybe you should have mercy on their souls Mr. Jones.

Hopefully in reading this, you, God and Country will have a better insight for Allen Spicer. He will be missed by many and not missed by some. Hopefully where he might be, he might be at peace with himself, as obviously he was not at peace being with the mourning widow Betty or his second (2nd) family or the choices he made upon his departure from his life.

Mr. Jones, if you or anyone else needs any clarification, please do not hesitate to get in touch with me, and I will more than happy to speak with you or meet with you in an effort to keep you from being "misguided" again.

Sincerely I remain,

Brian Allen Spicer, Allen's oldest son

Whomever wrote this article is not only severely misinformed and or a liar, but one of the most dispicable persons we have claimed in the human race.

Allen Spicer was one of the finest men I know that sought to do nothing other than take care of his family with honor and pride. Obviously, whoever wrote this have no idea have this arbitration came about....in short, they could win anywhere else and Allen trying to be an honorable man let himself get hung out alone.

I am a Navy veteran, Past Post Commander of an American Legion Post for five years, a memeber of the Veteran of Foriegn Wars and bleed on enemy soil and I would be PROUD AS HELL to serve with Allen Spicer.

This majority won't be silent....THESE ARE UNABASHED LIARS who spew this venom. In the world of gentlemen, for which Allen was one long before he became an officer, we chose not to spread filthy lies about decent men, spit on families in mourning, and use GOD's name in vain.....all for money. HOW DARE YOU!

Brian, if you had anything to do with these lies being posted in public or private, may God have mercy on your soul...

For God and Country,

Chris Jones
Norfolk, Virginia

Allen....REST IN PEACE;
Betty, Brett, Lisa, Kristin and Miguel Sincere condolences

First I would like to say to all of those that were per say RIPPED OFF by Mr. Spicer I am sorry for that. I do not know the entirity of the suite and I do not agree with what he and others did. However your attempt to attack Betty and his family made you no diffrent then Mr. Spicer. You not only attacked his live in family with your malicious remarks you attacked his entire family that had no idea of his acts until after his death. Did you not take into consideration the rest of his family possibly reading your report and reacting hostily to it. How would you have felt had it been your child you were reading this report on regardless of their actions they are still your child and you still love them. You robed the rest of his family of what they may have thought of him in their time of morning. You may attack Betty and all those involved but please next time think of others before making such remarks.As for him being lost for ever that is up to God to say and not you. I do pray for you to hand your hatered and hostility over to him and to do the right thing and forgive no matter the circumstances. I pray not only for my family to get answers for the death of my cousin but to forgive all that are not willing to do the same.

First I would like to say to all of those that were per say RIPPED OFF by Mr. Spicer I am sorry for that. I do not know the entirity of the suite and I do not agree with what he and others did. However your attempt to attack Betty and his family made you no diffrent then Mr. Spicer. You not only attacked his live in family with your malicious remarks you attacked his entire family that had no idea of his acts until after his death. Did you not take into consideration the rest of his family possibly reading your report and reacting hostily to it. How would you have felt had it been your child you were reading this report on regardless of their actions they are still your child and you still love them. You robed the rest of his family of what they may have thought of him in their time of morning. You may attack Betty and all those involved but please next time think of others before making such remarks.As for him being lost for ever that is up to God to say and not you. I do pray for you to hand your hatered and hostility over to him and to do the right thing and forgive no matter the circumstances. I pray not only for my family to get answers for the death of my cousin but to forgive all that are not willing to do the same.

First I would like to say to all of those that were per say RIPPED OFF by Mr. Spicer I am sorry for that. I do not know the entirity of the suite and I do not agree with what he and others did. However your attempt to attack Betty and his family made you no diffrent then Mr. Spicer. You not only attacked his live in family with your malicious remarks you attacked his entire family that had no idea of his acts until after his death. Did you not take into consideration the rest of his family possibly reading your report and reacting hostily to it. How would you have felt had it been your child you were reading this report on regardless of their actions they are still your child and you still love them. You robed the rest of his family of what they may have thought of him in their time of morning. You may attack Betty and all those involved but please next time think of others before making such remarks.As for him being lost for ever that is up to God to say and not you. I do pray for you to hand your hatered and hostility over to him and to do the right thing and forgive no matter the circumstances. I pray not only for my family to get answers for the death of my cousin but to forgive all that are not willing to do the same.

First I would like to say to all of those that were per say RIPPED OFF by Mr. Spicer I am sorry for that. I do not know the entirity of the suite and I do not agree with what he and others did. However your attempt to attack Betty and his family made you no diffrent then Mr. Spicer. You not only attacked his live in family with your malicious remarks you attacked his entire family that had no idea of his acts until after his death. Did you not take into consideration the rest of his family possibly reading your report and reacting hostily to it. How would you have felt had it been your child you were reading this report on regardless of their actions they are still your child and you still love them. You robed the rest of his family of what they may have thought of him in their time of morning. You may attack Betty and all those involved but please next time think of others before making such remarks.As for him being lost for ever that is up to God to say and not you. I do pray for you to hand your hatered and hostility over to him and to do the right thing and forgive no matter the circumstances. I pray not only for my family to get answers for the death of my cousin but to forgive all that are not willing to do the same.