Complaint Review: Von Fenwald Kennel Cindy Hiemenz German Shepherd Breeder

We have a nice litter of Import BSZS Sired male puppies available MAY1st,,both parents are Sch3,Sire also has an IPO3,,we offer a 3 year health-genetic guarantee including hips and elbows,,and we guarantee AKC paperwork,,we already have it for this litter and DNA is on file with AKC,,and I have hundreds of verifiable references,,

Please visit http://www.vomlauterbach.com and see the puppies for sale page,,Yukon-Jolly litter,,you can easily do a google search on both these dogs and over 7 pages will come up for each dog,,we own both of them,they are here on our premises to see,as well as our other dogs. we are liscensed thru our county as required,you will not have any problems with doing business with us.

Could anyone recommend a breeder they have worked with who is credible and produces quality German Shepherds with papers?

My name is John Anton, the owner of Anton Sport. We don't sell dogs, never have, never will, but when a consumer types in "Anton Sport" we are showing up.

I would think you might want to fix your website so that honest, uninvolved companies don't show up in your rip off report needlessly.

Thank you.

John

Gina, you are a sick woman.

You purposely omit information and twist the truth.

There is no reward, this is just another excuse to bash Cindy.


TRUTH:
The vet's office would not release any information to you, but confirmed that they had sent the condolence card.

I don't know any other reason for a condolence card, do you?

TRUTH:
ONE of the vet bill's was for Daro the "pick puppy" your "friend" sent Cindy. When the puppy arrived he was malnourished and filthy ( as were all the dog's ) he also had a genetic bone deformity of both back legs which was so severe he could hardly walk.

You were on the phone with Cindy when she was told by the vet that he was in severe pain and there was nothing they could do to fix his legs, casting, braces and surgery were NOT options.

$500 dollars is nothing to Cindy when it comes to the dog's, and you know that.

You are the moron, do your dogs still sleep in the broken down van in front of your house?

Or do they sleep on filthy pieces of carpet you have thrown in the yard?

Go feed your dog's and stop making them hunt prairie dogs and rabbits in order to survive.

RE: "Castar did pass and Gina was shown the $2000 vet bill, she then went to the vet's office to verify."

RESPONSE:
Not so... We all were shown, and have a copy of a faked condoleance note from a vet in the Woodstock area for Castar. Upon our visit with said office, they were unwilling to disclose any info, but did mention, Castar was NOT put down at their office.
Nice try...
The copy of the vet bill was for Daro vom Venushof, nov 04 and was for $202.--
Yes, that was the six month old pup you UNNECESSARILY put down over a $500 surgery?
You greedy..., well you know what you are... And that is your undoing..."

"Go ahead and send my $1000 reward to fenwald for att. fee's"

RESPONSE: I'm LMAO! moron...
Gina

Castar did pass and Gina was shown the $2000 vet bill, she then went to the vet's office to verify.

Go ahead and send my $1000 reward to fenwald for att. fee's.

It is about time! Apparently FOUR of the NINE dogs that Ms. Cindy Hiemenz stole from Mr. Robert Venus of Belgium have been recovered! Ms. Hiemenz stated that the other dogs had died and one had been sold.

It is not certain that the dogs died, but by her own words, Ms. Hiemenz has made apparent that dogs are not taken care of when they are with her. When she received the stolen dogs, they were all in good health and condition. Within 2 years, 4 had died, although they were not old. How can you have 4 healthy adult dogs die in that short amount of time? How many others have died there?

"Castar vom Venushof - 07 September 2006 - 19:09

$1000.-- Reward for information of the whereabouts and return of CASTAR VOM VENUSHOF.
Last known address is the USA Fenwald kennel in Illinois. Owner of kennel states Castar is dead, but has no proof of death.

We successfully went thru court approval and repossessed the following dogs from the kennel on September 4th, 06 for non-payment:

Falco vom Klebinger Schloss
Dixie aus der Burgenstadt
Brutus vom Venushof
Sabi vom Klebinger Schloss

Sold and also a reward out for$1000 of EACH dog is for Castar's sister: Chipsy vom Venushof

Claimed dead is also Cati vom Venushof.

Pls. contact kerschberger@allvantage.com if you have any information regards these dogs or call me directly 505-424-9092. Your name will be kept confidential, of course.

Please put out the word and thank you."

As for the ripoffreport filed here about myself by Ms. Hiemenz, there is legal action (a civil suit) being filed against her for Libel and Defamation of Character. For the many people she has told in person or over the phone these lies to, there are also slander charges being brought. The AKC sent me a letter that states that they will be providing my dog, Halla von Fenwald, her AKC registration, despite Ms. Hiemenz's assurances that I would never see her registration due to all the trouble I have caused her.

Please, before you buy a dog, do some research and find out who you are dealing with! There are many honest breeders out there who will not lie and deceive you just because they can!

Here is a list of other complaints regards Fenwald:
http://ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q5=fenwald&submit2=Search%21&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0

I have to say the pictures say it all, just go to brunnenhugel website and see for yourself. Not to be mean, but I have seen dogs come out of shelters looking better Von Fenwald should be ashamed.

I have to say the pictures say it all, just go to brunnenhugel website and see for yourself. Not to be mean, but I have seen dogs come out of shelters looking better Von Fenwald should be ashamed.

I have to say the pictures say it all, just go to brunnenhugel website and see for yourself. Not to be mean, but I have seen dogs come out of shelters looking better Von Fenwald should be ashamed.

First off, let me say that I am not going to say whether any of the comments from previous posters are true. Everyone has their own experiences to tell about. I am simply posting to make those who read these reports aware of another negative experience with this breeder.

I bought a puppy from Cindy Hiemenz at Von Fenwald in 1999. The puppy was from the F litter that was born February 12, 1999 out of Yaika vom Bergmannshof and by Hafran's Cimon. Her name is Feike von Fenwald, call name Gabi. Although I was buying Gabi as a family companion, she was supposed to be show quality (per Cindy) and I paid show quality price for her.

I did not have any problems with registration as others have. The issues I had were regarding Gabi's health. At 5 months of age she was diagnosed with unilateral hip dyplasia during preliminary xrays. At 11 months of age she was diagnosed with mild unilateral hip dysplasia and Grade I bilateral elbow dysplasia by the OFA during a preliminary report. By 2 years of age she had progressed to moderate hip dysplasia and Grade II elbow dysplasia. By Gabi's 5th birthday she had become clinical and was limping. She is severaly dysplastic in both elbows and requires medication. She gets occasional elbow injections to assist in lubrication of the joints. She will require surgery but I am holding that off as long as possible for her sake (a very long recovery). As long as I can keep her comfortable on a daily basis I will avoid the surgery. The cost of the surgeries will be approximately $7000 (yes, this is accurate. It has been discussed at great length with Gabi's Orthopedic veterinarian at Iowa State University's Veterinary Teaching Hospital--he is a pioneer in elbow surgeries).

Secondly, and more importantly, Gabi is far from the "show quality" she was said to be. Her ears never came up. She is over-sized. She is cow-hocked. She is easty-westy.

Thirdly, and another health issue, Gabi bloated and torsioned last year and nearly died. Her diet and exercise had not changed. It just happened. Unbelievably she was saved by emergency surgery at Iowa State University's Veterinary Teaching Hospital. Add another $1800 vet bill onto the other $1000's of dollars I have spent for her health concerns.

This is not opinion--her problems are FACT. I am well aware that puppies, particularly German Shepherds, are prone to numerous health concerns. None of Gabi's health conditions are uncommon with this breed. It was Cindy Hiemenz's handling of these problems when I made her aware of them that have caused me to form a very negative opinion of this breeder. I confronted Cindy regarding Gabi's lack of show quality (mainly her ears not standing erect) and of her dysplastic issues. I asked Cindy to be refunded the difference in cost between a show quality and a pet quality dog (only $200). I did not think this was a lot to ask for considering the amount of money I would be spending in the future because of her health concerns. Her reply was to degrade me and call me selfish and a self-centered child. She told me ALL of Gabi's problems were due to my lack of knowing how to raise a puppy. She blamed it on the food I was feeding her. I fed the food recommended by Cindy until Gabi was 5 months old--at which time she already had known health and conformational concerns. At that time my vet recommended that I switch her food to something that was formulated for larger breeds because of Gabi's rapid growth on the food recommended by Cindy. I bought the food from my vet--the exact food that was recommended to me by a trained, licensed, trusted veterinarian. Cindy informed me I should be trusting her instead of my vet because she was more aware of the health concerns of the German lines. As the breeder, she took NO responsibility for her concerns.

Gabi is 7 years old. Her ears are still not up, but it was not for lack of trying when she was a puppy. I took her to 3 different vets, one specializing in ears, to try to get them to stand. Nothing worked.

When Gabi was 2 years old Cindy gave me her mother, Yaika vom Bergmannshof (call name Hexe) for FREE. It was a peace treaty of sorts I suppose. Hexe was an incredible dog and I loved her for every second until I lost her to cancer 2 years later. At which time, I contacted Cindy to let her know and of course in my grieving wanted another puppy. I was quoted outrageous prices for pet quality pups. I made it very clear I could not afford a $2300+ puppy after just spending nearly $2000 on Hexe's vet bills. I opted to get a puppy from another breeder--a breeder who breeds dogs from the same West German lines as Cindy. When I informed Cindy I was not going to get a puppy from her and I had purchased a puppy from another breeder (whom I foolishly told who that breeder was) she of course had nothing but negative things to say including that I would get what I pay for. I paid $1500 for this puppy--a show quality puppy--that is absolutely at 3 years old now a show quality b***h who does NOT have the health concerns that Gabi does. I guess I got what I paid for--from a good breeder.

I have had many negative phone conversations with Cindy, these are just a taste of our correspondence that have caused my negative opinion of her.

Would I ever buy another puppy from her? Not in a million years.


Would I ever buy an adult proven dog from her? Until recently, yes I would have because of my positive experience with Hexe. However, due to a phone conversation with her regarding an adult dog that my friend was inquiring about--not in a million years would I ever purchase ANY dog young or old from this woman. She is bitter and unkind and does not have any concern for the puppies she produces. It is her BUSINESS and that is it. She is praying on the emotions of buyers who want a new family member without concern for anything but herself making money.

This is my opinion. One can use it to avoid putting themself in the same situation as I have--or one can ignore it and proceed into a situation that may or may not be negative. I wish this information had been available before I got Gabi--I would never have done business with Cindy.

Here are a couple of pictures of Gabi.

Floppy Ears


After an elbow injection


After bloat surgery


With my other b**ch to give you an idea of Gabi's sheer size (she grew past the MALE standard).

I have not purchased a dog from this kennel but I have pure breed dogs. Our dogs participate in dog shows and it is a very competitive sport.

I feel bad for everyone that planned to breed or show their dogs and they are not registered and can not be registered. These large sporting breeds do get very expensive and most people paying that kind of money do plan on using the dog in AKC sporting events or protective training. For protective training such as Schutzhund this will also be registered on your dogs AKC papers. If you all are interested in any of these type of activities valuable time is being wasted while waiting for papers.

We have spent a great deal of money and time in confirmation and obedience and if I had a dog whose registration was up for revocation I would be ticked off. We are not talking about people that are interested in having a nice looking pet dog here but people serious about dog sports who have spent thousands of dollars in handling and entry fees along with travel expense. It is hard work to finish a dog.

I think the AKC should be involved they may be the only people that can help and I hope things work out for all of you folks that have been wronged. I think DNA testing for all the dogs would be the answer and all dogs in question should be paid for by the kennel.

hi everyone,

i wished that i had looked for this forum before i purchased the two shepherds. i purchased a male and female from cindy 2 1/2 yrs ago. i ran into numerous problems. i asked her for a show quality dog..... instead i received a male dog with an underbite.... i even had a letter from my vet. cindy said that i was a liar. when my vet tried to call her, she would not respond. my other dog that i purchased from, she claimed was from her "partner" in germany. suprise everyone...she has no partner in germany.

she purchased the dog from another breeder who bred his b***h to a wonderful stud in germany. by right, i was suppose to receive pink papers from cindy for my puppy. it took a year and a half, along with numerous calls from a lawyer to get any sort of result. i tried everything that i could to get my dog's papers. it wasnt just hard to get full akc papers, she wouldnt give me anysort of papers on these two dogs. i jumped threw all of her hoops before i gave up and contacted a lawyer. she seems to know how hard it would be for me to file a claim against since i am out of state.

at the end..i have my own happy ending, but for anyone who thinks of buying from cindy...from von fenwald kennels, i would not. do ur research. see what kind of complaints there are against her.

Nancy,

I have an AKC shepherd from Von Fenwald Kennel and it does have health issues and always will.

I tried to work this out with Ms. Hiemenz and she told me my vet was nuts and did not know what she was talking about. I also let her speak with my vet that was not good enough.

After 2 weeks of being yelled at by Ms. Hiemenz she said she would allow the dog to return only if I did Titer test @ $146.00 times 2 plus office visit. There also would be a charge to board the dog in isolation for 3 to 4 weeks at $100.00 per day. Quote Ms. Hiemenz and Paula Neal of ILL. Dept. of Agriculture. That would have cost $4892.00 or more for a new dog. Now does that sound like a person you can work things out with?

The AKC will only pull the register for dogs that DNA don't match and that would fall on Ms. Hiemenz not the victims.

Would you mind telling me what breeder you are so I can stay away from you in the future?

First, I would like to address Nancy.

Nancy, I would seriously have to question your ethics as a breeder if you did not want to check DNA on the puppies. Not ALL of the dogs registrations would be revoked. The AKC works very hard to help the breeder find the actual parents of the pups in question, and will register those dogs. They only revoke the registration on dogs whose parentage cannot be proven through DNA certification. For you to say that this is really stupid to involve the AKC, to me, is assinine. They are the main organization in charge of registering purebred dogs in the US, and to undermine them by telling others NOT to DNA test...because what if a dog's DNA comes back wrong, and that dog has progeny who also have THEIR AKC registration revoked? Then that's what should happen. If the dogs aren't from the parents listed, then they shouldn't be registered as such.

I think this is a tremendous idea, and I actually am DNA certifying ALL of my dogs, so that every person can match their pups to the parents I said that they came from. This is the responsible and ethical thing to do. Cindy doesn't even OFFER DNA registration, and I'm sure she's not happy AT ALL about my telling people to have their dogs DNA checked and matched to the parents claimed on the AKC registration.

As far as these comments are concerned:

"If you guys were smart you would have tried to be reasonable and ask the breeder what she felt a fair resolultion would be. She must know that she needs to do something to 'make things right'. Why not be reasonable adults?

By the way, we know she is bad about paperwork, but what about the quality of the dogs? Did they arrive dying? Did they have terrible health problems? Temperment issues?

It sounds like most of you all are actually quite satisfied with her dogs, because you are mad you can't have papers to breed them."

I ALREADY WAS REASONABLE. I originally offered to pay ($30 per day!!!!!!) for boarding Halla at Cindy's house until I received her full AKC registration in my name. Or I would pay to ship the pup back (this was when I'd had her for a couple of weeks) and for her health certificate on the way, and she would return my money, she's out nothing, I'm out nothing. That didn't work for her either. She's offered nothing but lies and half truths. Last I heard from her, she said I could have Halla's Full AKC registration when I provided proof of "a" stamp hip certification and a photo of Halla. WELL, you can't GET an "a" stamp without the dog's registration (and I certainly won't do it in Cindy's name, especially since she has the dog registered in HER name, and has her littermate sisters) and certified pedigree, which she KNEW full well.

The dog was in fine health when she arrived, besides being a little thin and very afraid. You can tell she was kenneled her entire life (all 12 weeks or so she was old) We'll just say that I prefer ALL of my other dogs to Halla. She's a good dog, but not the quality of the others. Fortunately, the SV has on file DNA for both Pan von der Jahnhoehe and Eilyn von der Grotte, the supposed parents of my puppy. We'll just leave this at that.

Cindy's now run out of time. I'm tired of her childish games, I've made many offers to try to settle this, I've taken it to the AKC case management board, who is to call me within 48 hours, and I've retained an attorney. There is nothing more I can do BUT go to court. It's worth it to me merely to be able to post on here the judgment in my favor, so everyone can see that I am telling the 100% god's honest TRUTH!!!

Have you read ALL the comments posted on this website? This is only one area of issues. I can't believe a breeder, such as yourself, would question involving the AKC. Everyone that has puchased a Von Fenwald dog will be affected if these allegations are true, breeders included. To make light of DNA and parentage questions is absurd. Will you be willing to keep quiet and rationally speak with the breeder who INTENTIONALLY sold you a stud/b***h knowing the pedigree was not what you paid for and then you went on to breed it? What do you tell the people that have purchased those puppies from you at a premium? Nothing?

Nancy,

Let me state right off I am NOT a dog breeder so I do not have the experience in this area you do but -

IF there are discrepancies with the paperwork for these dogs then it SHOULD be pulled for the dogs. I understand this will make these dogs unable to be registered but if there is a question of parentage or proper registration then the dogs should not be bred as AKC dogs. The puppies should not be able to breed any further litters nor should the parents. She cannot be forced to spay and neuter her dogs but she can be stopped from selling these dogs as registered.

These people purchased REGISTERED pups. They have a right to know for sure what the ancestry of their dogs is and whether they are legitimate AKC dogs. If they are not, they are entitled to a refund. They are also entitled to know that their dogs are not suitable for breeding. They purchased REGISTERED dogs, that is what they should have. If there are other people out there breeding dogs from this kennel they need to be stopped from registering these dogs until these issues have been worked out.

Many people have attempted to contact this breeder and work out a reasonable settlement with her. She is the one that is not returning calls, emails, etc. There are numerous reports on her and while she may have some good quality pups, she is misrepresenting them.

My beautiful shepherd is registered - that is what I paid for. I have no intention of breeding her despite how beautiful she is (and no I did not purchase her from this breeder). She is part of my family - a companion dog. BUT, if I paid for registered that is what I should get and when I picked her up that is exactly what I received. She was there with her papers, shot records and health certificate. My breeder was there herself to answer any questions I had and go over everything. Thank god I had a fantastic breeder with wonderful quality puppies. Unfortunately for these people they didn't. They should go to any and every resource available to resolve this issue including the AKC.

I am a dog breeder and I just want to say to the people after their 'dog/puppy' registeration that it is REALLY very stupid to have involved AKC/DNA testing.

If AKC reprimands her and finds discrepencies in the DNA in her dogs matching the AKC papers they will PULL ALL HER PAPERS ON ANY DOGS SHE HAS BRED. Even if some people recieved papers for the correct dogs/puppies. All will be pulled and made invalid.

Then if ANY ONE has bred a grown puppy that they bought from her, the papers on THOSE puppies will also be pulled. This could be effecting several GENERATIONS OF INNOCENT buyers like you. In your quest for 'revenge' you might have hurt a lot more people than you help.

If this is such a great legal case why hasn't any one filed on this breeder yet? I have filed on several buyers and won. If your right, why mess with AKC? Why not deal directly with the law?

Just FYI I found this info because some one is CONTINUALLY SPAMMING THIS INFO IN THE RIPOFF REPORT on Craigslist Chicago's pet section and I wanted to see for myself what all the hoopla was about.

If you guys were smart you would have tried to be reasonable and ask the breeder what she felt a fair resolultion would be. She must know that she needs to do something to 'make things right'. Why not be reasonable adults?

By the way, we know she is bad about paperwork, but what about the quality of the dogs? Did they arrive dying? Did they have terrible health problems? Temperment issues?

It sounds like most of you all are actually quite satisfied with her dogs, because you are mad you can't have papers to breed them.

Add one more dog to no AKC Registration! Que' Von Fenwald has not been registered. I have contacted Ms. Hiemenz of the failure to register. "Bono" as he was called was born December 22, 2002 of the Jupiter vom Monchberg x Xya Von Fenwald "Q" litter.

Add one more dog to no AKC Registration! Que' Von Fenwald has not been registered. I have contacted Ms. Hiemenz of the failure to register. "Bono" as he was called was born December 22, 2002 of the Jupiter vom Monchberg x Xya Von Fenwald "Q" litter.

Add one more dog to no AKC Registration! Que' Von Fenwald has not been registered. I have contacted Ms. Hiemenz of the failure to register. "Bono" as he was called was born December 22, 2002 of the Jupiter vom Monchberg x Xya Von Fenwald "Q" litter.

Add one more dog to no AKC Registration! Que' Von Fenwald has not been registered. I have contacted Ms. Hiemenz of the failure to register. "Bono" as he was called was born December 22, 2002 of the Jupiter vom Monchberg x Xya Von Fenwald "Q" litter.

Regarding the above:

"I still have the full AKC registration in my name as promised by Ms. Hiemenz. My dog is now 19 months of age."

SHOULD READ: I still DO NOT have the full AKC registration in my name as promised by Ms. Hiemenz. My dog is now 19 months."


I cannot DO anything with this dog without her registration. I cannot even get her hips "a" stamped, which is what Cindy tells me I must do to get my dog's registration (this was never mentioned in the Contract, which SHE FAILED TO TELL ME ABOUT BEFORE I ACTUALLY PURCHASED THE DOG, WHICH ARRIVED AT THE AIRPORT WITH THE DOG, WHICH IS THE FIRST TIME I SAW IT!!!!!!)

I hope other people learn from MY mistake!!!!

When you charge $3500 for puppies that the new owners will never receive the registration for, of COURSE you have a nice looking kennel!! Especially when you cheat the people who WORK on your kennel by NOT PAYING THEM. Cindy Hiemenz can tell you all about that, I'm certain, since that's what several contractors/electricians, etc who I have been in touch with have informed me.

I still have the full AKC registration in my name as promised by Ms. Hiemenz. My dog is now 19 months of age.

AKC is in contact with Ms. Hiemenz, and I would hope that this will be completed soon.

My attorney is handling this from a couple of different avenues, and I am unwilling to give up and give in, no matter what the cost. THIS WOMAN MUST BE STOPPED FROM REPEATING THESE TERRIBLE THINGS SHE DOES TO OTHER UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE!!!!

Once this goes to court, it will be too late for her to hand over the full AKC registration, as she will owe many more court costs, attorneys fees, service fees, transportation expenses (since I have to come from out of state), etc. I do know that she owns real property in the state of Illinois which she will be forced to sell. In the meantime, once I have the judgment in hand, I will also report that to the 3 credit bureaus as well as put a lien on her properties.

You have until April 30th, Cindy. After that, this can't be settled out of court. This is my final appeal to you to do what is right.

Anyone else who has had problems, please contact me. You can read throughout the posts on RIPOFFREPORT.COM website here to find my contact information.

Rick,

I am also happy for you. I purchased a dog on 1-24-06 that was to be in great health, but to find out in less than 24 hours it is not and still have not received AKC papers to this day. Cindy has not held up to the contract on the purchase of this dog nor does she have any plan to in the future. I think after I paid $2500.00 for an 11 1/2 week old pup I should not have a problem and considering I did, it should have been address in the right manner.

P.S. Before you buy a dog check with the Northern Rescue of that breed and do a net search on the kennel name and breeder name. Just a little friendly advise.

This is just a suggestion, for everyone who owns a "von Fenwald" dog, to DNA each dog, regardless of whether there was a problem with the purchase of the dog or not. There have been dogs that have unmatching DNA results to dogs listed as parents on the AKC registration or contract.

You can request a parentage report from the AKC, to find out if your dog is from the sire listed on your AKC registration or, if you have no registration, the Contract for said dog. Check with the AKC first to see if the DNA profile for the sire (and/or dam) is on hand. This means 3 litters bred within 1 calendar year, or more than 7 litters in a lifetime.

AKC QUOTE:
"Effective for litters whelped on or after July 1, 2000, every sire producing seven or more litters in a lifetime or producing more than three litters in a calendar year must be 'AKC DNA Profiled.' These DNA profiles will be used for genetic identity and for parentage verification, and, thus, will be used to advance issues relating to the integrity of the registry."

As far as the gentleman who purchased a Targus pup goes, I am happy for you! You got what you paid for. I would appreciate the same.

I purchased a puppy from Von Fenwald Kennel in June of 2005. The puppy was from the "P" litter,the stud dog was Targus Von Fenwald.

The puppy arrived as promised in great shape, the AKC reg was easily and without problem. I have found the staff including Cindy to be very helpful. The puppy is currenly being trained for Schutzhound.

The dog is working great,look like a twin of his father.

Dirk,

I have passed this information to my attorney. First of all, you cannot represent Ms. Hiemenz in a court of law, even "pro bono", because you are not licensed and admitted to the bar in ANY state or any country, according to the ABA (American Bar Association). Secondly, the only reason Ms. Hiemenz has not taken me to court faster than you can snap your fingers, is because she knows that I am correct, and everything I have said can be proven.

Now, I would like to thank you for a good laugh. You're a very intelligent person, but I think honesty is once again the key to what is missing here. I am exasperated, and all I want is what I originally paid for. If I had that, I would be happy to just "go away", which is, I'm sure, what Ms. Hiemenz would like.

I really don't think it is too much to get what you pay for, is it? If you paid for airline tickets, you would expect to get the tickets AND to actually be able to board the plane with them, to the destination listed, right? Well, I paid for my pup with her full AKC registration (and paid dearly, as one can import dogs from Germany with better lineage for less money, OR a titled adult, for the price I paid for this 12 week old pup) and I have proof that Ms. Hiemenz told me she was AKC registered, which she wasn't. She is now, and she is registered in Cindy's name. That's against the rules with the AKC, in itself. If Cindy's mad at me, and therefore, that is why she feels justified in her behavior, that's fine. A judge can take care of the matter, and it will just end up costing her more in the long run.

Best Regards.

Dear Melanie:

After careful review of each and every post that you have made on this forum, it is abundantly clear that what you have done here is far more than merely tell your story in order to warn others as you so state. Telling your story would have been simply stating your side of what took place, the approximate chronology of same, stating your grievance(s) and allowing interpretation and/or rebuttal based upon your stated information.

The sheer volume of insults, personal attacks, unsubstantiated accusations without due process and character defaming language that you have chosen to write concerning Cindy and her business, on what is clearly an open public forum, steps far over the line of simply stating grievance and the facts as you understand them. Your intent is quite plainly evident.

Rest assured that I am very well aware of the definitions of all of your chosen adjectives as well as how these terms are viewed under the law when used in the manner in which you have so liberally and generously applied them here in written form.

As for your explanation regarding the registration and use of "vonfenwald" as the URL to your own business website of an entirely different name; I would like to thank you for your clarification and admissions. You may wish to inquire of your afore mentioned counsel as to why I might offer thanks for this, should he/she be at all versed in Federal and/or Global eCommerce law.

In addition; it may interest you to know that all activities and communications associated to/with a URL and/or IP address are permanent records that are easily retrieved in unaltered original form; and all of these records are generally admissible as evidence. Evidence that volumes of precedent proves can be quite powerful, I might add.

And just to clarify; as of yet, Cindy is not my client, so consider my statements unsolicited and motivated purely by my own personal outrage of seeing someone that I have personally known and respected for quite some time being maliciously defamed.

If at any point in the future, however, Cindy should finally heed my advice and begin thinking litigiously as I am urging her to so do; it would be my sincere pleasure to offer her my full assistance, pro bono, as my billing would far exceed the available resources of most small business owners.

Dear Melanie:

After careful review of each and every post that you have made on this forum, it is abundantly clear that what you have done here is far more than merely tell your story in order to warn others as you so state. Telling your story would have been simply stating your side of what took place, the approximate chronology of same, stating your grievance(s) and allowing interpretation and/or rebuttal based upon your stated information.

The sheer volume of insults, personal attacks, unsubstantiated accusations without due process and character defaming language that you have chosen to write concerning Cindy and her business, on what is clearly an open public forum, steps far over the line of simply stating grievance and the facts as you understand them. Your intent is quite plainly evident.

Rest assured that I am very well aware of the definitions of all of your chosen adjectives as well as how these terms are viewed under the law when used in the manner in which you have so liberally and generously applied them here in written form.

As for your explanation regarding the registration and use of "vonfenwald" as the URL to your own business website of an entirely different name; I would like to thank you for your clarification and admissions. You may wish to inquire of your afore mentioned counsel as to why I might offer thanks for this, should he/she be at all versed in Federal and/or Global eCommerce law.

In addition; it may interest you to know that all activities and communications associated to/with a URL and/or IP address are permanent records that are easily retrieved in unaltered original form; and all of these records are generally admissible as evidence. Evidence that volumes of precedent proves can be quite powerful, I might add.

And just to clarify; as of yet, Cindy is not my client, so consider my statements unsolicited and motivated purely by my own personal outrage of seeing someone that I have personally known and respected for quite some time being maliciously defamed.

If at any point in the future, however, Cindy should finally heed my advice and begin thinking litigiously as I am urging her to so do; it would be my sincere pleasure to offer her my full assistance, pro bono, as my billing would far exceed the available resources of most small business owners.

Dear Melanie:

After careful review of each and every post that you have made on this forum, it is abundantly clear that what you have done here is far more than merely tell your story in order to warn others as you so state. Telling your story would have been simply stating your side of what took place, the approximate chronology of same, stating your grievance(s) and allowing interpretation and/or rebuttal based upon your stated information.

The sheer volume of insults, personal attacks, unsubstantiated accusations without due process and character defaming language that you have chosen to write concerning Cindy and her business, on what is clearly an open public forum, steps far over the line of simply stating grievance and the facts as you understand them. Your intent is quite plainly evident.

Rest assured that I am very well aware of the definitions of all of your chosen adjectives as well as how these terms are viewed under the law when used in the manner in which you have so liberally and generously applied them here in written form.

As for your explanation regarding the registration and use of "vonfenwald" as the URL to your own business website of an entirely different name; I would like to thank you for your clarification and admissions. You may wish to inquire of your afore mentioned counsel as to why I might offer thanks for this, should he/she be at all versed in Federal and/or Global eCommerce law.

In addition; it may interest you to know that all activities and communications associated to/with a URL and/or IP address are permanent records that are easily retrieved in unaltered original form; and all of these records are generally admissible as evidence. Evidence that volumes of precedent proves can be quite powerful, I might add.

And just to clarify; as of yet, Cindy is not my client, so consider my statements unsolicited and motivated purely by my own personal outrage of seeing someone that I have personally known and respected for quite some time being maliciously defamed.

If at any point in the future, however, Cindy should finally heed my advice and begin thinking litigiously as I am urging her to so do; it would be my sincere pleasure to offer her my full assistance, pro bono, as my billing would far exceed the available resources of most small business owners.

Dear Melanie:

After careful review of each and every post that you have made on this forum, it is abundantly clear that what you have done here is far more than merely tell your story in order to warn others as you so state. Telling your story would have been simply stating your side of what took place, the approximate chronology of same, stating your grievance(s) and allowing interpretation and/or rebuttal based upon your stated information.

The sheer volume of insults, personal attacks, unsubstantiated accusations without due process and character defaming language that you have chosen to write concerning Cindy and her business, on what is clearly an open public forum, steps far over the line of simply stating grievance and the facts as you understand them. Your intent is quite plainly evident.

Rest assured that I am very well aware of the definitions of all of your chosen adjectives as well as how these terms are viewed under the law when used in the manner in which you have so liberally and generously applied them here in written form.

As for your explanation regarding the registration and use of "vonfenwald" as the URL to your own business website of an entirely different name; I would like to thank you for your clarification and admissions. You may wish to inquire of your afore mentioned counsel as to why I might offer thanks for this, should he/she be at all versed in Federal and/or Global eCommerce law.

In addition; it may interest you to know that all activities and communications associated to/with a URL and/or IP address are permanent records that are easily retrieved in unaltered original form; and all of these records are generally admissible as evidence. Evidence that volumes of precedent proves can be quite powerful, I might add.

And just to clarify; as of yet, Cindy is not my client, so consider my statements unsolicited and motivated purely by my own personal outrage of seeing someone that I have personally known and respected for quite some time being maliciously defamed.

If at any point in the future, however, Cindy should finally heed my advice and begin thinking litigiously as I am urging her to so do; it would be my sincere pleasure to offer her my full assistance, pro bono, as my billing would far exceed the available resources of most small business owners.

Dirk:

No, I do not think that you are Cindy. Your mannersisms and speech patterns are completely different.

Why did I post this online? To warn others of Ms. Hiemenz's dishonesty.

Why do I own the vonfenwald.com domain? Again, to warn others of Ms. Hiemenz's dishonesty. I have had people email me asking me why I changed my kennel name. I told them that I am NOT Cindy, and then tell them the only association I have with Cindy, and the story, then give them the link to this website, for them to look over and decide on their own. I also provide Ms. Hiemenz's domain name to them, since that is obviously what they were looking for. It is not for me to decide for others what they will do, but it is HONEST of me to tell others of the problems I have had with this person. That is also what the Better Business Bureau does, and they are online at bbb.org.

I DO own my own GSD domain name, which you have listed above "vomfelsenhof". As far as copying Cindy's website? Not even close. My page is completely different, and I have spent numerous hours designing not only my website, but others as well. You're really reaching if you think I took things off of Cindy's website. I have no need, nor desire to do so.

You seem to be good at name calling. "Character assination" and such. No, I'm just being honest, which is something that this world could use a little more of.

The ONLY reason I have not filed in court yet, is because I am awaiting the results from the AKC Disciplinary Board decision, per my attorney's instruction, as then I will have exhausted all means to handle this without having to spend a fortune in court. I live out of state, have children, and had no desire to go to Illinois to handle this problem unless I HAD to, which clearly, I do. Once the AKC has made their decision, I will post THAT on this board as well as the link to the AKC site, so that people can read it themselves. THEN, I will take this to court, and I will win. There is no reason to put the cart before the horse and take it to court until I have no other options. Perhaps YOU like to be in court, but I really have no desire to waste good money after bad. I will go to court, I will win, and then I will have a Court Ordered Judgment in hand. That judgment will then be given to my attorney, and he will collect via whatever means neccessary.

As far as your veiled threats, "for your sake", I don't care what you think one way or another. If you're Ms. Hiemenz's legal counsel, then I suggest you get in contact with my attorney, or perhaps your client, and have her do the RIGHT THING. As far as the words I've used to describe Ms. Hiemenz? Check the definitions of "FRAUD", "LIAR" and any other term I used. All of them are completely 100% HONEST and ACCURATE. All that matters to me is that people are treated HONESTLY and FAIRLY. If that is too much to ask from Ms. Hiemenz, then perhaps you would be right, and I should not have posted any of this online. I happen to think it's the right thing to do. I think a judge will see things the same as I do. We'll just have to wait it out and see!

For everyone else, once I do have this settled in Court, I will advise, and will post for everyone to see. (Also the AKC decision will be on here just as soon as they let me know)

Very interesting I just discovered that the primary accuser and character assassination specialist on this forum has a very interesting choice of URL for her own breeding business website.

It seems that the virtuous and self-proclaimed victim of fraud and deception evidently sees no problem or issue with the fact that her very own business website address is www.vonfenwald.com!

That's rather odd. Why would a person whose kennel name is actually "Vom FelsenHof" register and use the website address "Von Fenwald"??? Shall we speak of ethics and intent here?

Even more interesting is to see the design of this website. It looks as if much of the content (graphics, text and layout) was copied directly from Cindy's website. Hmmmmm Who's the real (and I quote) "Disreputable German Shepherd Dog breeder and scam artist! Liar! THEIF! Dishonest! FRAUD! BEWARE! " ?

Why that particular choice of URL, Melanie? Are you aware of the laws of eCommerce? I sure hope you are for your sake.

And Adam; You are welcome to your thoughts and opinions, and rest assured that I do happen to understand the law quite well, thank you.

First of all Dirk...

"and not childishly slandering someone like Cindy and the reputable business that she has worked so hard to build over so many years.

If Cindy has done all of these things, and if she is the terrible criminal that you are trying so hard to make everyone that reads these posts believe, then stop this name-calling nonsense and take the matter to court!

Personally, I sincerely hope that Cindy takes every last word that you have written about her and her business and ensures that our legal system forces you to bear the full legal consequences of your unfair, immature and unethical behavior."

Dirk, It is only slander or defamation if it is false. I hardly believe a person would come on here and say the things they have about a person with an ongoing legal battle if it were unfounded. That would just leave ones self to a slaughter in court. And how is speaking ones mind about a deceitful person unethical or unfair. Isn't this site here for a reason. And if you feel that people should keep their mouth quiet aboutt hings and handle it in a "mature and ethical" way then why are you even here reading and responding.

Melanie I hope you post the outcome of this to this site under this post I would love to see the outcome and show all these people the truth.

I stumbled across this website when my browser search engine came upon a bunch of highlighted accusations that Cindy Hiemenz is a fraud, thief, liar, etc., etc. After reading through all of these posts, I felt compelled to reply with my own.

Now before anyone accuses me of being a cloaked persona of Cindy as you have some others, let me assure you that I am very much a separate and real human entity. If you care to know who I am, since this website keeps personal information blocked from view, you can find my feedback to Cindy on her website, under "Testimonials". My dog's name is Kora.

I seriously question the honesty and integrity of people who would use a website forum such as this to "settle" a dispute that they might have. That is exactly what the US legal system is there for. It absolutely amazes me that people can spout off so many vicious comments and accusations and get away with it. How childish and unjust! Last I knew, people living in the United States of America are supposed to be innocent until PROVEN GUILTY in a COURT OF LAW.

To attempt to settle a dispute by typing volumes of slanderous insults and unsubstantiated accusations in an open public forum like this is, in my opinion, a feeble attempt at conviction without legal due process. Whether your complaints are valid or not, to do what you have done here is an embarrassment that any upstanding adult would be absolutely ashamed of. This is a witch hunt via website post!

I will not fall into the trap of joining in with this travesty of unbridled character assassination and injustice by attempting to defend Cindy within this forum. She is better than that, and so am I. Suffice it to say that I find almost all of these accusations very hard to believe at best.

If, however, any of these accusations are in fact based in anything remotely truthful, I would ask why the parties with these grievances that seem so clear-cut by their colorfully descriptive story versions are not settling them in a court of law. Why this website if your case is so obviously open-and-shut?

My own belief is that there is much, much more to these stories (like Cindy's side, for starters) that is not being told. I am fairly well convinced that if these folks who are spouting off so much venom actually HAD A JUSTIFIABLE CASE, they would already be in court, and not childishly slandering someone like Cindy and the reputable business that she has worked so hard to build over so many years.

If Cindy has done all of these things, and if she is the terrible criminal that you are trying so hard to make everyone that reads these posts believe, then stop this name-calling nonsense and take the matter to court!

Personally, I sincerely hope that Cindy takes every last word that you have written about her and her business and ensures that our legal system forces you to bear the full legal consequences of your unfair, immature and unethical behavior.

Cindy, I wish you had enough decency to post under your own name, instead of hiding behind false names. I'm beginning to think you're afraid of everything and everyone you've ripped off coming back to haunt you. As for you and your kennel? You produce some nice looking dogs. It's too bad for you that you've let your business practices go down the toilet along with your ethics and morals.

If you're going to sell a dog or pup, make sure in the future that you have everything you say you have for the animal. It will cause you much less headache and problems down the road.

So, regardless of whether I get my dog's full AKC registration or not, I will see YOU in court. You will be held accountable for everything you have done. Count on it.

Every time you post under a different name, it just shows how pathetic you truly are.

I am sorry I guess it didn't say in your rebuttal that you requested to be paid cash- it's funny how it wasn't a problem when you were working there, if that's the case. And that's nice that you are ok with your life but to most others it's abnormal.

I spoke with the American Kennel Club, who has not received a response back from the breeder regarding my complaint against Ms. Hiemenz, along with my contract and all correspondance with Ms. Hiemenz.

I am going to be in contact with the Judge from an earlier case against Ms. Hiemenz by her neighbors, stemming from a complaint regarding the dogs on her property. I am sure that the judge will be interested to know what I know.

Animal Control is also going to be informed.

Holly, I applaud your decision to leave the Fenwald kennel. If you have information that would be pertinent to any of the complaints on this ripoffreport.com website regarding Ms. Hiemenz, you should get in touch with Jeanne Coxe, or another Case Management worker at the AKC. Their number is on the akc.org website, and on another posting from someone else on this website. You could be providing valuable information to them regarding the practices at her kennel.

All I wanted was what I paid for, nothing more. My dog, Halla von Fenwald, with her full AKC registration, as originally promised to me. This is apparently, not acceptable to Ms. Hiemenz for some reason. Perhaps my impatience in waiting a year to get what I was told would arrive WITH the dog. (namely, her full AKC registration)

In answer to your incorrect information, obviously your getting your information from Cindy, and since I do not know you, or have never met you it is the lack of your intelligence to acuse me of the things you stated. It's people like you who fall into the same category as the lying and deceaving people like you and Cindy. I am very happy and content with my life. And further more, Cindy isn't the an honest person, and for you to believe her makes you very unintelligent as she is. Did she happen to tell you how she pays her co-workers under the table, and how she's not supposed to have all those animals on her property. There's more, but I'll save that for later if you want to know!!

Would this be the same Holly Mills who lives behind Jackie's house. The same Holly who is 18 and got knocked up by her 30 year old boyfriend who lives in a basement of his fathers house? Holly, the one who was caught stealing mechandise, money and vaccines from the kennel? And then Cindy did not have you arrested because of the unborn child you were carrying? Just making sure this would be the same Holly who was fired from a local grocery store as well? Hmmm interesting....

I used to work for Cindy, and all of the complaints that I have read so far are true. She over breeds, shes a liar, thief, and most of all dishonest. She has bitches that have litters 2 times a year. Most of them have had over 8 litters. She AI's them. No kennel licence. No AKC info. Everything mentioned in her website is false. Any info regarding this, please feel free to email me.
Wonder Lake, IL

As of today, December 27, 2005, I still do not have the full AKC registration I was promised BEFORE I PURCHASED THE DOG.

AKC says that Ms. Hiemenz now has 4 days to respond and return my dog's AKC registration to them, or she will go to the AKC disciplinary board, and face probable suspension from registering any dogs with the American Kennel Club.

Once this happens, my attorney will file my civil suit against her. I will win this, and she will be forced to sell some of her many assets (perhaps the nice little red sports car?) to satisfy the court ordered judgment against her.

Once in court, I will NOT settle out of court, and this will only cost Ms. Hiemenz more money, not me. All attorney's costs will be her sole responsibility, and included in the judgment, according to my attorney.

The State Attorney General's office, I believe, has enough evidence to convict on many charges.

Why she didn't just send my dog's registration as promised in the first place? I do not know. The only thing I can think is that she loves this kind of interaction, and is terribly bored with her life, and so must make others as miserable as she is. So very sad, and I do feel sorry for her.

I still have not heard from Cindy Hiemenz of von Fenwald kennel regarding the registration of MY dog, Halla von Fenwald (now named with my kennel name as to not disgrace the poor dog. My dog is still registered in Ms. Hiemenz's name, and she has retained the AKC registration for her (I assume this is because I have publicly made her liable for what she has done to so many people.)

She has until the 21st of November to return my FULL AKC registration to the AKC.

I will update again in another week to let any interested parties know if the AKC or myself have received anything.

I spoke with the American Kennel Club today, and Cindy has not responded to their letter to her regarding MY dog, Halla von Fenwald, which Cindy has wrongfully registered in her name. She has not returned the AKC registration, as demanded by the AKC. They have sent a follow-up letter, and if not resolved, this will be sent to the disciplinary management board.

This could easily have been avoided by Ms. Hiemenz by being HONEST AND TRUTHFUL to begin with, and not lying and telling me that the puppy I wanted had it's AKC registration BEFORE I bought her.

I also originally offered to PAY to ship the puppy back to Cindy, so that she could re-sell her back in December. I would have been out the money for shipping, and Cindy would not have been out one dime, but that was apparently not acceptable. Now that I have had her for almost a year, my dog will not go back to Cindy, to further be bred into oblivion and treated like a prisoner, kept in a cage all the time.

I am not an unreasonable person. I am not asking for unreasonable items. All I want is what I paid for. If I am not going to get what I paid for (Halla von Fenwald with FULL AKC registration), then she can send back my money ($3500), minus $700 for the dog (MORE THAN YOU WOULD PAY FOR AN UNREGISTERED DOG!!!!) SO A TOTAL RETURN OF $2800 returned to me via CASHIERS CHECK (the way I sent her the money, a CASHIER'S CHECK via FEDEX)

I have made this offer to her as well, she can take it or leave it. If she chooses NOT to accept this more than reasonable offer, I will file criminal and civil charges. I have an airtight case of breach of contract and felony level fraud, and she will not only be out the money that I paid for the dog, she will also have punitive damages and criminal charges to deal with. Time is up.

Update for everyone! Gabriela von Fenwald is now registered (as of October 13, 2005) at the age of 3 years old. I have not checked to see whether or not the pedigree matches; that will be left to the littermate owners or puppy owners from Gabriela. I guess lighting a fire under someone has worked well, because I have heard from owners of Gabriela's littermates that they also have gotten their registration! CONGRATULATIONS! :)

If this is what it took for a few people to get their registration, it was well worth it in my opinion. I am still waiting for my dog's full AKC registration. My guess is I will be waiting forever.

I'd rather keep the Fenwald name out of any pup's pedigrees anyway! No association with the dog in my kennel is probably for the best! Until I receive my registration, she will be named under my kennel name. :)

My dog is now 13 months old by Cindy's calendar (funny how dates of birth change so much, isn't it?). STILL no full AKC registration in my name. Only 11 days to return my full AKC registration...

As far as Catherine goes, she is right about ONE thing! I am a LOSER!!!! I have lost over $5000 on this dog so far. I feel sorry for other people who may not have much money, and save up for years to get a dog, then get abused like this. Ridiculous!



I must thank you, Cindy. You have brought me so many new friends (many of which were screwed over by you, or can relate to my situation and hope you are put out of business for good!) and given me the gift of knowledge and wisdom in regards to German Shepherd Dogs. Were it not for you screwing me over for almost $4k, I would still be in the dark about a lot of things. I would never have done the research and spent the countless hours finding out as much as I have about the breed in general. I would never have made the friends in Germany and gotten the dogs I now have because I felt I could not trust American breeders. I know I may never see my dog's full AKC registration as originally promised to me, but the fact that people will know exactly what you do, and how you do it, is well worth it to me. You should be ashamed to call yourself a breeder. You can lie to everyone until you're blue in the face. All I can say is that you're taking up oxygen better used by your dogs than by yourself.

I can look at myself in the mirror every morning. And know I have done nothing wrong here--that I have nothing to be ashamed of. Can you say the same?

Catherine,
If Cindy thinks shes innocent then she would have no problem posting her side of the story. I'm still waiting to see what she puts up and the excuses that she creates to explain why Melanie hasn't recieved her dogs AKC papers after she paid so much money for an unproven/untitled puppy. Your exact quote

"Just remember everything you put in this website can be used for further proceedings so I hope you realize that"

Is that suppose to be a threat towards me? what exactly to you mean by that? That Cindy might file a lawsuit against me because I am using the First Amendment from the U.S Constitution? Or Cindy going to throw me in jail? Please! I've done nothing wrong so im not going to lose any sleep over what i wrote on this site.

Now... I cant wait to see Cindy post and to see her side of the story.. How long am i going to wait Catherine? Until Im 98 and on my death bed? chop chop ;)

I am done posting with all the negative people. Cindy will come out in the end making you all look as you should and then we will see who is
an idiot. I figured you were friends with one of these negative people. Just remember everything you put in this website can be used for further proceedings so I hope you realize that. I have a real life and I am going to get on with it- did you ever think that Cindy just chooses not to lower herself to post here?- she really doesn't need to. I am not going to continue this BS either I said what I had to say and I think you are a bunch of losers who need serious help and until you get it you will never have what Cindy has-tact.

Catherine,

As of matter of fact I am friends with Melanie, especially after this incident. I feel so sorry for the people who worked so hard for their money and ended up getting screwed by breeders whos motives is to pay off their bills of which their too d**n lazy to find a real job so they turn their female dogs and males into sex slaves for their own benefits. As for hearing the whole story, Catherine. Since you talk to Cindy all the time, why not tell her to take some time off to explain her side of the story here? I'm sure she already knows whats going on here. stop being a pitbull guard of hers and let her share her side of the story. I'll be waiting for that post to arrive. hopefully it's a good one. Me Gina? Nah Im not Gina but Brittany.. Well thats what my state ID and birth certifacate says... maybe I need to re read it again No I have never bought a dog from Cindy... I will never will either by such outrageous price that she charges. Also good luck into getting another puppy from her... and yes you will get your papers... Cindy doesn't want to piss off the rest of the world... She will give you everything that you request for.

Look up the legal definition of a word before you use words you are not familiar with, Catherine. If anyone is being libelous or slanderous, it is you and Cindy. I am not "dumb, stupid" OR "crazy", nor do I live in a mobile home, have no teeth, abuse my dogs, breed my dogs to other dogs with no hip certifications, etc. This is all a bunch of lies. The truth will catch up to Cindy sooner or later. EVENTUALLY, she will be held responsible for everything she's done.

Secondly, it doesn't matter what you say. I am being completely honest, so I have nothing to fear. My "threats" are not threats. They are fact. If Cindy had not LIED to me in the first place, none of this would have ever come about. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LIE. IT COMES BACK ON YOU! SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE STATED THAT THE DOGS AND PUPS WERE AKC REGISTERED, WHEN THEY WERE NOT! That seems pretty simple to understand to me. Is that hard to comprehend?

I waited until the dog was almost a YEAR OLD before I put any of this online. This should have been done the next day I knew the pup was not registered when I was told she was!!!

Bottom line? If Cindy doesn't get me my dog's registration, she will probably be banned from the AKC for life (may happen anyway, from the number of complaints that I know they have received, this due to the fact that I referred so many of them!)!!! If I don't get Halla von Fenwald's full AKC registration as originally promised, I will take her to court (on principle ALONE!) and the court will rule in my favor, have no doubt. I have a open and shut case, everything is documented down to the T.

Like I said, I have been reasonable MORE than long enough. Enough is enough. How long would YOU wait for your AKC registration when you were told the pup had it before you even bought the d**n dog in the first place? Puhhhhleeeasssseee, don't expect me to believe you'd be more "reasonable" and less upset than I am. And if some belligerent person kept telling you that you were stupid and dumb and crazy and irrational, when you know for a FACT what the FACTS were, and they only had the lies and deceit of the person in question with no knowledge of what you have been through, how would YOU feel?

This is silly. You need to understand (or not, I don't really care about you one way or the other) that all of this could have been avoided by being HONEST in the first place. End of discussion. ;)

Look up the legal definition of a word before you use words you are not familiar with, Catherine. If anyone is being libelous or slanderous, it is you and Cindy. I am not "dumb, stupid" OR "crazy", nor do I live in a mobile home, have no teeth, abuse my dogs, breed my dogs to other dogs with no hip certifications, etc. This is all a bunch of lies. The truth will catch up to Cindy sooner or later. EVENTUALLY, she will be held responsible for everything she's done.

Secondly, it doesn't matter what you say. I am being completely honest, so I have nothing to fear. My "threats" are not threats. They are fact. If Cindy had not LIED to me in the first place, none of this would have ever come about. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LIE. IT COMES BACK ON YOU! SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE STATED THAT THE DOGS AND PUPS WERE AKC REGISTERED, WHEN THEY WERE NOT! That seems pretty simple to understand to me. Is that hard to comprehend?

I waited until the dog was almost a YEAR OLD before I put any of this online. This should have been done the next day I knew the pup was not registered when I was told she was!!!

Bottom line? If Cindy doesn't get me my dog's registration, she will probably be banned from the AKC for life (may happen anyway, from the number of complaints that I know they have received, this due to the fact that I referred so many of them!)!!! If I don't get Halla von Fenwald's full AKC registration as originally promised, I will take her to court (on principle ALONE!) and the court will rule in my favor, have no doubt. I have a open and shut case, everything is documented down to the T.

Like I said, I have been reasonable MORE than long enough. Enough is enough. How long would YOU wait for your AKC registration when you were told the pup had it before you even bought the d**n dog in the first place? Puhhhhleeeasssseee, don't expect me to believe you'd be more "reasonable" and less upset than I am. And if some belligerent person kept telling you that you were stupid and dumb and crazy and irrational, when you know for a FACT what the FACTS were, and they only had the lies and deceit of the person in question with no knowledge of what you have been through, how would YOU feel?

This is silly. You need to understand (or not, I don't really care about you one way or the other) that all of this could have been avoided by being HONEST in the first place. End of discussion. ;)

Look up the legal definition of a word before you use words you are not familiar with, Catherine. If anyone is being libelous or slanderous, it is you and Cindy. I am not "dumb, stupid" OR "crazy", nor do I live in a mobile home, have no teeth, abuse my dogs, breed my dogs to other dogs with no hip certifications, etc. This is all a bunch of lies. The truth will catch up to Cindy sooner or later. EVENTUALLY, she will be held responsible for everything she's done.

Secondly, it doesn't matter what you say. I am being completely honest, so I have nothing to fear. My "threats" are not threats. They are fact. If Cindy had not LIED to me in the first place, none of this would have ever come about. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LIE. IT COMES BACK ON YOU! SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE STATED THAT THE DOGS AND PUPS WERE AKC REGISTERED, WHEN THEY WERE NOT! That seems pretty simple to understand to me. Is that hard to comprehend?

I waited until the dog was almost a YEAR OLD before I put any of this online. This should have been done the next day I knew the pup was not registered when I was told she was!!!

Bottom line? If Cindy doesn't get me my dog's registration, she will probably be banned from the AKC for life (may happen anyway, from the number of complaints that I know they have received, this due to the fact that I referred so many of them!)!!! If I don't get Halla von Fenwald's full AKC registration as originally promised, I will take her to court (on principle ALONE!) and the court will rule in my favor, have no doubt. I have a open and shut case, everything is documented down to the T.

Like I said, I have been reasonable MORE than long enough. Enough is enough. How long would YOU wait for your AKC registration when you were told the pup had it before you even bought the d**n dog in the first place? Puhhhhleeeasssseee, don't expect me to believe you'd be more "reasonable" and less upset than I am. And if some belligerent person kept telling you that you were stupid and dumb and crazy and irrational, when you know for a FACT what the FACTS were, and they only had the lies and deceit of the person in question with no knowledge of what you have been through, how would YOU feel?

This is silly. You need to understand (or not, I don't really care about you one way or the other) that all of this could have been avoided by being HONEST in the first place. End of discussion. ;)

RE "Catherine's" comments: "You are proving time and time again that you have mental stability problems and need to seek professional help. You are really sick and honestly I hope you never get your papers because you are unstable and don't deserve a Fenwald dog."

DEAR READERS:
BEWARE OF THIS PSYCHOPATHIC LIER -DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH THIS ONE!!!

After reading the commentary by socalled Catherine, I'm now even more sure than before that cindy and catherine are one and the same.

I have been 'fortunate' in that I have very many emails from Cindy to compare writing style, and even more fortunate that I only SOLD her a dog with AKC & OFA good, which was WAY before her manipulative scemes came to light.

She is so irrational and hateful that she now posted that particular dog was 'rejected' for breeding. This dog would have easily rated V and KKL 1. Have no doubt about that. She is full of this hate towards anything on TWO legs.
And is a control freak beyond belief.

My 2nd experience was that I brought her and my good friend of Belgium together.
THIS was why she continued to schmooze me, because she ran out of resources in Europe with her horrible reputation and NO ONE in Europe (except poor Robert) ships dogs without payment.
So she took him for $20,000 in my previous post described.

It was right after the first shipment from Robert that she showed her true irrational colors.
By cancelling the sale of a pup of mine, because I couldn't ship the pup at 9am, but, would ship it at 1pm the SAME DAY.

Now it gets interesting...
The buyer had paid me already, and when she cancelled (by telling him lies by the way),

she wanted me, to send HIS money, to her!!!

I sent the monies back to the buyer and warned him not to deal with her.
He still wanted the pup from me, but, I didn't want any more dealings with someone like Cindy who had negotiated the sale of the pup who can become THAT insanely irrational and incoherent over nothing...
So, I apologized to him and left it at that.

I tried to prevent that Robert not send her anymore dogs, however, she bamboozeld him by sending him a FAKE COPY of a wire transfer as if she had send him the money, and he fell for it.

So, IF you think this is an honest person with a rational brain, even after all this information you've been given, and after all the data you can obtain from AKC, BBB illinois and the Attorney General in IL, well, then you're on your own and you, frankly, deserve her...

I can't wait for her or 'catherine's' next crazy reply. hmm hmm good! just wait and see ;)

Unless you are friends of these people how do you know the whole story? Cindy is continuosly slandered on this site by these people did you think that maybe if they weren't so rude they would get thier papers Brittany? Did you ever think that perhaps thier are 2 sides to this story? Is it possible that you are Gina? Are you Melanie? Did you ever buy a dog from Cindy? Maybe you should think about these questions before you keep posting here. What I find really interesting is that you have a problem with Cindy and yu don't know any part of her side.

Let's see who else could you be G from NM- Gee how hard is that to figure out- really I am not as dumb as you- Oh and I have no problem with bringing my IP address to court please do then you will see how crazy and stupid you really are.
I hope you do bring Cindy to court and she slams you. I talk to Cindy all the time and as a matter of fact I am buying another puppy from her and guess what? I will probably hve all of my paperwork before you have yours-your threats are why this keeps going on and on and on.

Catherine,
I dont think you're getting the point. Money are not apples and grows on trees to be plucked off from the stems. I'm sure that Melanie had worked her Butt off into getting the money that she worked for into getting the puppy that she thought came from a responsible breeder... as much as you accuse both Melanie and Gina of having mental problems Melanie still have every right to get her AKC papers for her "expensive unproven puppy". If Cindy cannot do her side of the bargain then I think she should give back (100%) of the money and apologize both in private Email and in public for wasting Melanie's time into fighting for something that she deserved to get.

Dont be so nieve Catherine... How would you like it if you paid a HUGE sums of money for a breeding/show/sport puppy and ended up getting screwed because the breeder didn't feel like giving out the AKC papers.

UNPROFESSIONAL! :)

Catherine,
I dont think you're getting the point. Money are not apples and grows on trees to be plucked off from the stems. I'm sure that Melanie had worked her Butt off into getting the money that she worked for into getting the puppy that she thought came from a responsible breeder... as much as you accuse both Melanie and Gina of having mental problems Melanie still have every right to get her AKC papers for her "expensive unproven puppy". If Cindy cannot do her side of the bargain then I think she should give back (100%) of the money and apologize both in private Email and in public for wasting Melanie's time into fighting for something that she deserved to get.

Dont be so nieve Catherine... How would you like it if you paid a HUGE sums of money for a breeding/show/sport puppy and ended up getting screwed because the breeder didn't feel like giving out the AKC papers.

UNPROFESSIONAL! :)

Catherine,
I dont think you're getting the point. Money are not apples and grows on trees to be plucked off from the stems. I'm sure that Melanie had worked her Butt off into getting the money that she worked for into getting the puppy that she thought came from a responsible breeder... as much as you accuse both Melanie and Gina of having mental problems Melanie still have every right to get her AKC papers for her "expensive unproven puppy". If Cindy cannot do her side of the bargain then I think she should give back (100%) of the money and apologize both in private Email and in public for wasting Melanie's time into fighting for something that she deserved to get.

Dont be so nieve Catherine... How would you like it if you paid a HUGE sums of money for a breeding/show/sport puppy and ended up getting screwed because the breeder didn't feel like giving out the AKC papers.

UNPROFESSIONAL! :)

I find it very interesting that you use the same exact verbiage as Cindy Hiemenz in her multiple letters to me and others. I also find it interesting that you have shown such an interest in this. If you have something good to say about Cindy or her kennels, great! But to show such an interest to be defending her, when she will not defend herself, although I know for a fact that she is reading this, seems a bit off.

The IP address will be found out when the records from ripoff report.com are subpeonaed for court related issues. Then we will know for sure if you are Cindy, or Catherine. If you are Catherine, then you two seem like two peas in a pod as far as your writing style and the words you choose to use and misspell. :)

Furthermore, how you knew it was "Gina" when it says "G" from Santa Fe, NM, is beyond me, because you don't know Gina, nor does she know you. So how she could prove time and time again anything to YOU? See my first post, where I explain that Cindy accuses people she's mad at of being crazy. You did the same thing. Funny. (not funny ha ha, just funny--odd)

In any case, Cindy now has 14 days to give me my dog's (Halla von Fenwald) FULL AKC registration as originally promised. If she'd rather handle this in court, that's fine by me. She'll be the one who's forced to sell property to satisfy the Court ordered Judgment against her. And if it's not sold, she will be the one who has a judgment on her credit from multiple people with multiple problems, and a lien against all of her properties.

This can be handled easily, or it can be handled the hard way. I would prefer the easier way, but it's nothing to me, either way. IT WILL BE HANDLED and NOT DROPPED.

Gina I think you have serious mental problems just because I have not chose to keep up with your everyday postings does not mean Cindy is "secretly Catherine". I am myself and just because I don't agree with you and happen to think Cindy is a very reputable breeder and I love the dog I got from her does not mean she is acting like me and pretending to be Catherine. Seriously what kind of a fantasy world do you live in? You are proving time and time again that you have mental stability problems and need to seek professional help. Hmm is Erika really Cindy too? Not! we are just people who have had good experiences with Cindy and you can't stand it. You are really sick and honestly I hope you never get your papers because you are unstable and don't deserve a Fenwald dog.

Dearest people,
as someone who is familiar with Cindy Hiemenz activities & writing style, it seems pretty clear to me that this "catherine" is Cindy Hiemenz herself.
Just keep that in mind. She is extremely manipulative. One that you hopefully only meet once in your life time.
I believe that she will be put out of business completely, and put in jail, for a very long time for all the hurt and fraud she has caused.
The sooner, the better.

I have a letter sitting in front of me from the AKC dated September 21, 2005. It says that they have told Ms. Hiemenz that she has 30 days to return to the AKC the AKC registration on my dog, HALLA VON FENWALD, that she WRONGFULLY and DECEITFULLY recently registered in her name. This woman is a scheister of the highest magnitude. I would NOT suggest you purchase a dog from this woman unless you like the run-around. There are people who have received their AKC registration from her (granted, these people, I am sure, do not want or care about, nor did they pay for or receive FULL AKC registration!)

Also, I ran across this (see below) when researching some more on Cindy's kennel name. Apparently GASCO (littermate to Gabriela and Gunnar von Fenwald) ended up in a GSD rescue because the owners had had enough. I agree that this is not the right way to make a point, but I can understand how it happened. Cindy accused the man who had Gasco of lying. I highly doubt that this is true, as she is the one who is a compulsive liar. I am certain that Cindy paid for the dog to be returned (for less than $200) and then the dog was probably resold for another profit to someone else. All these dogs that get returned to her are returned for a reason. Gasco still has NO AKC registration either. Look him up on AKC.org, then click on STORE, then scroll down to the bottom of the page where it says DOGS LOOKUP, and type in the breed (German Shepherd Dog) and dog name (Gasco von Fenwald). You will get an error message that the dog is not found. This is the type of bullshit you can expect from Cindy unless you go there, pick up the dog AND IT'S AKC REGISTRATION IN HAND BEFORE YOU EXIT HER PROPERTY. I still wouldn't recommend purchasing one through her, but if you must, do it the safe way and be aware of the tricks she plays. Here is the article. If anyone knows the name of the owner of GASCO von FENWALD, please have them contact me at krieghausergsd@aol.com

Martinez Dog Returned to Breeder in Illinois
German Shepherd Dogs end up at animal shelters from many different places for many different reasons. Occa-sionally dogs come in with AKC papers. Thankfully, some of these dogs don't need our adoption services, thanks to the responsibility of their breeders. GSRNC would like to salute Cindy Hiemenz of Wonder Lake, Illinois for being respon-sible about the dogs she produces.

Rescue volunteer Dez Murray received a call from the Martinez shelter saying a seven month-old puppy, named Gasco, had been surrendered by his owner, who explained they were leaving the country the next day. Although they had recently paid $3000 to a breeder in Illinois, they now left the puppy and most of his paperwork at the shelter.

Dez went to the shelter, brought the pup home and immediately called the breeder, who was horrified. The owner had just called the breeder, who had agreed to take the pup back, all he had to do was make the arrangements. Appar-ently that was too much trouble, so he took the dog to the shelter.

Cindy then called the owner who told her that he had given the pup to his cousin and all was well a wonderful home! In other words, he did not tell her that he had dumped the poor pup at the shelter! He had lied about almost everything, even sending multiple emails to her saying how great everything was going.
Two days later, Rescue volunteer John Gilliam drove the pup from Walnut Creek to the San Francisco airport and Gasco got on the plane to fly home. He will be adopted by the owner of his sister and will live on a large property in Illinois.

Cindy is an exceptionally nice and responsible breeder who paid for all of Gasco's costs. She is most appreciative of GSRNC and the Martinez shelter for their efforts, and for coordinating the return of this much loved pup. Gasco has an outstanding temperament and we are thankful that he is where he should be.

It seems that Ms. Hiemenz is currently TRYING to get dogs their AKC registration. I will keep this website posted on how that goes.

My whole intent on putting this information up on this website is to get Ms. Hiemenz to do the right thing: follow through with the agreements she made with people. If I wanted an unregistered or limited registration puppy, I could have purchased one from someone locally and saved myself a lot of money.

Why Ms. Hiemenz would not get things done legitimately until forced to is beyond me. I cannot understand her reasoning.

She is currently telling people that I am trying to breed the dog she sold me to one of my dogs with no hip certification. This is libelous, as #1, the dog is only just over a year old and I would never breed a dog until it reaches the appropriate SV-approved age of 20 months for a female, 24 months for a male; #2 ALL of my dogs (except Halla von Fenwald, due to the fact that I have no registration, therefor no certified pedigree, therefor no German "a" stamp, therefor no hip certification!) are hip certified passing. There are other, more offensive things being said about me (none of which is true), but that is best left unsaid. Libel charges will be filed when the matter goes to court. Once in court, I will not accept a settlement. I refuse to be yanked around over and over again.

Again, all I am asking for is what I paid $3500 for: HALLA VON FENWALD, with FULL AKC REGISTRATION as promised. If that is not taken care of within a short period of time, I will continue on to court with this case, as planned. If I get what I paid for, in short order, I will come on this website and update it and place it here for the world to see that I got what was promised to me to begin with. I don't think I am asking for too much here.

For all of you who have had good experiences, I am happy for you! I would like to be one of her happy customers as well. That's all I ever wanted. She shouldn't have lied to me and told me the pup was AKC registered before I purchased her if she wasn't. She wouldn't be in this huge mess if she hadn't.

Bottom line? HAPPY & SATISFIED CUSTOMERS DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE AND HIRE ATTORNEYS TO GET WHAT THEY PAID FOR!

Just wanted to share the good experience I've had over the past 5 years with von fenwald.

I am the proud owner of 2 german shepherd dogs that I've purchased from von fenwald kennels. I had no trouble registering my first dog, Zellar von fenwald with the AKC, his # is: DL86404404.

My second dog was a pink-papered dog from germany I didn't bother to register with AKC.

If you're interested in von fenwald dogs, by all means, visit the facility if you're able to. Or do a google search & you'll find plenty of info on working von fenwald dogs.

I have 2 healthy dogs with excellent conformation that are also whip smart with perfect temperaments. I love them both and wouldn't trade them for anything.

I would not hesitate to purchase another dog from von fenwald kennels.

Just a note to let everyone know that Imke vom Haus Hera is now registered. This was only done after I placed this ripoffreport.com complaint.

Gabriela von Fenwald (dam of the "K" litter von Fenwald) is still not registered. According to the AKC rules and regulations, she cannot be registered, because it has been more than one year since she was whelped.

This means that the two litters out of Gabriela von Fenwald, sold as AKC registered pups, aren't registerable. ("C" litter von Fenwald, "K" litter von Fenwald)

Just a note to let everyone know that Imke vom Haus Hera is now registered. This was only done after I placed this ripoffreport.com complaint.

Gabriela von Fenwald (dam of the "K" litter von Fenwald) is still not registered. According to the AKC rules and regulations, she cannot be registered, because it has been more than one year since she was whelped.

This means that the two litters out of Gabriela von Fenwald, sold as AKC registered pups, aren't registerable. ("C" litter von Fenwald, "K" litter von Fenwald)

Renee von Fenwald, Salo von Fenwald, Santos von Fenwald, Haike von Fenwald, Hanni von Fenwald (born in 2004 not 1995)

ALL OF THESE DOGS HAVE NOOOOOOO AKC REGISTRATION. Sickening.

Catherine, It's fortunate that you got what you asked for. however you have no right telling Melanie that shes an irrational person. She paid lots of money for an UNTITLED and UNPROVEN puppy with no papers. I know how Melanie feels to WAIT for papers on a dog that she paid an extreme price on. I can understand her feelings 100%.

It is the breeders responsiblity to give AKC papers to the dog owners. It is down righ crude/Rude and very dishonest to keep their buyers waiting for their AKC papers. If they are too busy to satisfy their buyers then maybe they should stop breeding. As far as 3000 dollars for a UNPROVEN puppy, pfft! that's a rip off! another typical American Showline breeder trying to get rich off of selling unproven dogs. I'm sure that Melanie wishes that she would of imported a nice adult dog thats already proven with Titles for starting price of 3000 Euros and up rather then to deal with a rip off breeder whos only motives for breeding is to pay her bills.

Note: My posts is not slander/etc... It's protected by the first amendment.

This list is IN PROGRESS, but these are the dogs from Cindy Hiemenz's kennel VON FENWALD, KNOWN not to have their AKC registration. I will post more names as they are found to not have their AKC registration.

Halla von Fenwald (registered over a year after being whelped, over 9 months after she was SOLD, then registered in BREEDER'S name, not OWNER'S!!!)Gerda von Fenwald, Galene von Fenwald, Gunda von Fenwald (born 2004), Anton von Fenwald, Armani von Fenwald, Nikko von Fenwald, Nicki von Fenwald, Flint von Fenwald, Frederica von Fenwald, Gretchen von Fenwald, Greta von Fenwald, Hans von Fenwald, Tala von Fenwald, Malcolm von Fenwald, Gabriela von Fenwald, Imke vom Haus Hera, Gunnar von Fenwald, Gasco von Fenwald, Anuschka von Fenwald, Anastasia von Fenwald, Aiko von Fenwald, Timo von Fenwald (born 2005), Taska von Fenwald (born 2005),Witt von Fenwald, Oba von Fenwald, Visium von Fenwald, Simone von Fenwald,Carzan von Fenwald, Cimon von Fenwald, Cisko von Fenwald, Karsten von Fenwald, Karzan von Fenwald, Kastar von Fenwald, Kimon von Fenwald, Krystof von Fenwald, Kyle von Fenwald, Kayla von Fenwald, Vala von Fenwald, Warko von Fenwald, Gita von Fenwald, TO BE CONTINUED!!!!!!!!!!!

As of 9/16/2005 MY dog is now registered to Cindy Hiemenz, the breeder, more than a year after she was whelped, and more than 9 months since I paid for the dog and picked her up at the airport. Talk about adding insult to injury!! According to AKC regulations, you are not allowed to register a dog in your name that has been sold to someone else. This is getting more ridiculous by the day!

Catherine, I think you are the irrational person in this discussion. If the poster paid for an AKC dog, that is what they should get.

It doesn't matter what was said, the tone it was said in, or if they were wearing their clothes on backwards when they called her, if they paid for an AKC dog, the seller is legally bound to provide the correct papers for each dog.

I can't believe she has the gall to charge those prices for her dogs, especially if there are no papers.

Catherine, my mistake (I did try to fix that, apparently they didn't submit the post). I would not have a problem if I had just gotten what I paid an obscene amount of money for, when I paid for it. I could have purchased a dog from Germany out of VA parents for what I paid for this pup with no registration.

Now, first off, I am not irrational. I am not "threatening" a lawsuit. It's inevitable. You may be her friend, and of course she's not going to admit any wrongdoing to anyone, especially a friend. That would be sheer stupidity on her part. And she's not stupid, just dishonest.

Slander is spoken, libel is written. I have done neither, as the accusations must be FALSE. I can back up everything I have said, and more, beyond any court's expectations. I would not just huff and puff about something as serious as this. If I wanted an unregistered pup, I could have bought that from any one of the millions of backyard breeders locally, and saved myself the heartache, time, money, harassment, and hassle.

I don't know what "3 friends" you are referring to. If Cindy's told you something about 3 people, she's vastly undercounted the number of people she's ripped off. Or perhaps she's forgotten, there are so many? I am happy that you got everything you wanted. All I'm asking for is what I am rightfully and contractually owed. You wouldn't be happy either, if you were going through this BS. :)

1) I have a contract. That contract is legally binding, and can and will be used in a court of law. 3) Breach of that contract is a serious problem. 4) The court can handle this. Once any criminal charges have been filed and won, the Attorney said they do offer that the offender can pay restitution or go to jail for failure to do so. Once criminal charges have been prosecuted and the guilty found guilty, a civil suit will be filed. Once these suits are decided, the AKC will be notified, and I do believe they ban individuals for quite some time for these types of offenses. One way or another, I will get what I am rightfully owed. a) My full AKC registration as originally promised, or b) my money back. I do have paperwork to back up everything I am saying. So, as far as I'm concerned, this conversation is done.

Melanie-
First-My name is Catherine (if you correctly read the post you would know that) not Christine and I am not sure why you feel the need to explain to me , I simply put a rebuttal of what you said. I had nothing but a good experience and as I said I am sure that others who deal with Cindy will be able to decide on thier own, not from you or I. Did you ever think that the reason you didn't get your papers yet is because you are irrational? Or maybe because of the way you handle things? You don't get anywhere treating people the way you do. Or from threating a lawsuit- I sure hope you know what you are doing because this can be considered slander with a really huge fine, so I would hope that you and the 3 friends you have totally understand that as I said before people go on your word they need to read the numurous articles and testimonials that do nothing but praise Cindy and her dogs.

Sorry, Catherine.

You know, Christine, I ALSO looked for months and months, and chose Von Fenwald without doing enough research. Her kennel is not unknown amongst the German Shepherd world, and it's not because it is GOOD. Check around with people. I wish I had.

It comes down to this: If I had received what I had paid for ($3500 for a fully AKC registered dog from the "H" litter out of Eilyn v.d. Grotte and Pan v.d. Jahnhohe), WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION. HAPPY CUSTOMERS DON'T GET PISSED OFF FOR NO REASON!!!! HAPPY CUSTOMERS DON'T TRY (AND BE SUCCESSFUL!) TO FIND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF HAVING THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO THEM.

I am HAPPY for you that you got what you paid for. I, on the other hand, STILL have a dog with no AKC registration, and the dog is over a year old now. There are OTHER people she has done this to. I am not, by any STRETCH of the imagination, the only person.

Once this is settled LEGALLY (and it will be), then we will see who is being ridiculous and who is trying to "slam" whom.

You know, Christine, I ALSO looked for months and months, and chose Von Fenwald without doing enough research. Her kennel is not unknown amongst the German Shepherd world, and it's not because it is GOOD. Check around with people. I wish I had.

It comes down to this: If I had received what I had paid for ($3500 for a fully AKC registered dog from the "H" litter out of Eilyn v.d. Grotte and Pan v.d. Jahnhohe), WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION. HAPPY CUSTOMERS DON'T GET PISSED OFF FOR NO REASON!!!! HAPPY CUSTOMERS DON'T TRY (AND BE SUCCESSFUL!) TO FIND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF HAVING THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO THEM.

I am HAPPY for you that you got what you paid for. I, on the other hand, STILL have a dog with no AKC registration, and the dog is over a year old now. There are OTHER people she has done this to. I am not, by any STRETCH of the imagination, the only person.

Once this is settled LEGALLY (and it will be), then we will see who is being ridiculous and who is trying to "slam" whom.

You know, Christine, I ALSO looked for months and months, and chose Von Fenwald without doing enough research. Her kennel is not unknown amongst the German Shepherd world, and it's not because it is GOOD. Check around with people. I wish I had.

It comes down to this: If I had received what I had paid for ($3500 for a fully AKC registered dog from the "H" litter out of Eilyn v.d. Grotte and Pan v.d. Jahnhohe), WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION. HAPPY CUSTOMERS DON'T GET PISSED OFF FOR NO REASON!!!! HAPPY CUSTOMERS DON'T TRY (AND BE SUCCESSFUL!) TO FIND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF HAVING THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO THEM.

I am HAPPY for you that you got what you paid for. I, on the other hand, STILL have a dog with no AKC registration, and the dog is over a year old now. There are OTHER people she has done this to. I am not, by any STRETCH of the imagination, the only person.

Once this is settled LEGALLY (and it will be), then we will see who is being ridiculous and who is trying to "slam" whom.

You know, Christine, I ALSO looked for months and months, and chose Von Fenwald without doing enough research. Her kennel is not unknown amongst the German Shepherd world, and it's not because it is GOOD. Check around with people. I wish I had.

It comes down to this: If I had received what I had paid for ($3500 for a fully AKC registered dog from the "H" litter out of Eilyn v.d. Grotte and Pan v.d. Jahnhohe), WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION. HAPPY CUSTOMERS DON'T GET PISSED OFF FOR NO REASON!!!! HAPPY CUSTOMERS DON'T TRY (AND BE SUCCESSFUL!) TO FIND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF HAVING THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO THEM.

I am HAPPY for you that you got what you paid for. I, on the other hand, STILL have a dog with no AKC registration, and the dog is over a year old now. There are OTHER people she has done this to. I am not, by any STRETCH of the imagination, the only person.

Once this is settled LEGALLY (and it will be), then we will see who is being ridiculous and who is trying to "slam" whom.

In response to the allegations against Cindy and her dogs- I think it is absolutely ridiculous what you are trying to do- she is one of the best breeders out there. I looked for many months to find a quality breeder and found Cindy- she is the best and when I came across your complaint I cannot believe you and your friend who have reported against her. I bought my dog from her and have had no issues and have spoke to many, many people who are in love with her dogs and her kennel. Read the testimonals on her page- there are many more people who appreciate her than are trying to slam her like you and your friend are-I am sure that there are reasons behind your issues with her that stem from your attitude not hers- I hope people read the several testimonials before the judge on the 2 complaints on here!