Complaint Review: Willis Shaw Express

Well , first forget about this trucking business, why don't you seriously try getting a job at the post office, its not bad, benefits are better !! Ever thought about driving a ready mix-concrete truck, to construction sites in your area, be home every nite and paid hourly!!

Lots of people have accidents, not just truck drivers, Pilots have accidents, yet they keep on flying after the investigation and if their license isn't yanked.

Try working for a Truck Dealer in the parts dept, like kenworth or peterbilt or Freightliner, that's not all that bad of a job.
Your really not missing that much by not being out on the road!

Should you keep pursuing the driving career, Stay away from big companies, and nationwide big corporate companies,, find a smaller company, or a family owned business, and start over again and be carefull next time !!! Become a member of OOIDA !!!!

See my reply, Submitted: 4/6/2006 5:39:37 AM.

As I say again to good people: Follow your HEART! and your dreams, Do not follow those cry babys who have fallen and who tries to hide behind a computer screen and bad mouth other folks! For they are only fallen cowards! Who make false reports. (Makes them feel BIG :)

You flipped a trailer-for what ever reason, it does not matter! All prospective employers will not take you on because you are a financial risk!!! Not becausae of Shaw. You failed to state the actions of that situation that resulted in the flippage. Was it driver induced? Mechanicle? You admit that you made a erronous decision, why should any other company take you on? What if your family was crushed under that flipped trailer full of ripe apples? To flip a trailer one needs speed, and centrifigal force to coincide together, to suceed! Sealed load or not, you screwed up man. IGORANACE TO INFORMATION IS FATAL, know what you haul, knowledge is power, know how to react to WHAT YOU HAUL!!!! DON'T BLAME THEM, BLAME YOUR IGNORANCE AND LEARN FROM IT!!!!

Yes, Willis Shaw has an employee manual. They also follow it pretty close but its always up to interpretation by driver managers/dispatch. Go to your safety director or whoever is in charge of dispatch/driver managers. I was fortunate and had Odell Ellery, Keith Bledsoe and Walt Berkenbile to turn too. I never really had a problem with them and would go back to work for them. I made decent money with them unless I pulled a lot of cash advances. I couldn't always get home for home time when I wanted but thats just trucking in general. I hope this helps. Willis Shaw is still a decent company to work for and I can say that being with them for 6 out of 10 years of driving. P.S. Pull your Dac and make sure its accurate. Dac falls under the same rules that credit reports do, so you have the same protections in place to object and have removed inaccurate information. Have a great day!

My ex husband had the misfortunate of getting involved with Willis Shaw Express. He is on the road a lot and not just driving......break downs, the delay of a company loading truck, which does not delay the delivery date and he has to adjust the logs for the company and the DOT........so therefore is denied several hours/miles of pay.

I have asked for the policy and procedure manual to find out what the company in writing states because each person he talks to at Willis Shaw gives him a different answer. For example, he just came back from an over 3000 mile on the road and his net pay was only $46.00.......not enough to make house payment or even pay electric bill.

Does anyone of these ex employees or the person that commented about how bad the ex employees were have a policy and procedure manual? Every operating company has to have a policy and procedure manual in writing so they cannot change the rules at their will.

I work at the home of Willis Shaw. I know about both these drivers. There is a very good reason why we fired them and I very good reason why no one else wants them! Actually it's kind of funny, These 2 drivers need to stop gripping and get a job. Just not a driving job! Because trust me what they did..no one will hire them if you know what I mean

My experience with the treatment I got from the Willis Shaw Safety Department was similar to what you experienced. I got the very distinct impression that I was going to be given a very negative DAC report -and I may well have (I never checked).

All the events that led to this aren't really all that important -and that's the KEY POINT.

My suggestion would be: DON'T worry about all the details. And DON'T explain all the details when asked what happened on the job. The facts are you were fired due to an accident. That info very likely was entered into your DAC report.

You were not the first nor the last to have an accident. Some companies will go out of their way to make sure a drivers career is ended in the case of an accident. Accidents cut greatly into the profit margin and hurt the companies safety record. Therefore the individuals in a company may develope a very vindictive attitude. This is especially true with individuals that are veteran truck drivers from a time when running "outlaw" was the ONLY WAY to run. Many of those individuals display a very vindictive attitude toward new and young drivers -and even very experienced drivers- who run "legal", write up safety or maintenance issues with the equipment, refuse to load/unload trailers for free, and, especially, those who make mistakes!

It would probabely be best to stay clear of the trucking industry in your unfortunenant situation.

I was told by my fleet mngr at Wilis Shaw that I would never get another driving job. That was all due to the fact that I became very sick from exhaust fumes in the cab of the truck. They did not ruin me because, unlike you, I had years of save driving already reported on my record with DAC. This is just an example of how they treat drivers. I actually wished they had forced me out of trucking -It is a very ruthless business!

Try getting a copy of your "DAC" report. It is quite possible that Willis Shaw reported incorrect or misleading information to this agency. Several prospective employers use this company to screen potential drivers and it is not uncommon to have a deragatory notation reported by a previous employer because of a personality conflict.

There is also a section on the form that is submitted to DAC when an employee leaves a company that in essence says "Contact employer for additional information."

If the information is incorrect you can file an appeal that DAC is obligated to add on to their record on you.

And if this is the case I would notify Willis Shaw that they have "X" number of days to correct the inaccuracies or you will be forced to explore the possibility of having it corrected through whatever legal options that are available to you.

And you may want to contact former Willis Shaw drivers and have them obtain copies of their DAC reports to ensure that what has been reported is indeed accurate.