Complaint Review: Willow Rose Shih Tzu's

Seems to me this person breeding pups at such a young age should have been picketed in front of her home or kennel. This is tragic that someone would stoop to needing money sooooo bad ( maybe she has a habit she can't kick) that she would jeapordize the life of a poor innocent baby dog. You should be on Judge Judy so the world can hear of your dispicable treatment of dogs....PETA will hear of this I guarantee!!!

Sorry but I had to reply to the person who wrote "any reason we care. 8 months is fine for akc dog to be bred. did the pups get papers. if you know so much then youll know." Yes, AKC will give papers on pups born to a mom bred at that young of an age. It still does not mean a mom should be bred so young. A typical female dog comes into heat once every six months. It is highly discouraged to breed a dog during its first heat cycle. This is because the dog has not completely matured itself. Breeding too early can cause developmental problems in the female. Growth is stopped, needed calcium and nutrients is transferred to the puppies. Does that sound healthy and safe for a mom to you? No respectable breeder would do something like that on purpose. If one would do this on purpose it really sounds as if the person was more interested in making money off of pups than in the health and well being of the mother of the pups. If a person does this, they are STOPPING THE GROWTH OF THE MOTHER AND DEPLETEING HER CALCIUM. If you know so much then you should know this.

stacy i understood very little of your post. something you did i am sure in an effort to hide who you really are. first of all people care if someone is breeding BABY DOGS because it is not ethical in some peoples eyes and some want to know where they should or shouldn't buy a puppy from. yes a dog can have a litter registered with akc if they breed at 8 months old BUT that does not make it right. akc is a registry NOT a vet. a 12 yr old child can give birth to a baby and get a birth certificate on her child. does that make it right? as per a website being updated, that is what people do. update or be outdated. do you really want to get into contradicting things being said by one or the other? how about telling one person a dog is trash and won't be bred and then telling another that it is going to show? then putting a scheduled breeding on your website for the same dog until you are caught in a lie. only then do you take it down. you are obviously so quick to find something wrong with someone else that you don't read carefully. the site does NOT say the females are bred two times a year. it says the females are bred two times and then rested for a full year. in other words, two back to back breedings. does not mean two times a year. so make sure you understand what you have read before you post and make a complete fool of yourself about it. as for females being said they were going to be spayed and then not. what is YOUR point? so a person changed their mind. so what? also what story and is it true the dogs were bred by who? as for the mg story you like so much, you should like it better. YOU wrote it. a person tends to like their own lies better than the truth. start backing up what you say with proof. then you might be worthy of listening to. in closing i am glad you like to tend to the website so much. it will really be updated a lot more over the next several days. it has been known for a year or more that you visit the website on a regular basis. thank you for taking such an interest in the website. your visits are valued so much that each one is logged. please visit the website again soon because something new that will interest you will be posted on it soon.

WOW! I have been following these posts. I went to the AKC website and it's true. That's simply beyond horrible! I wasn't aware of this when I was considering purchasing a pup from wiilowRose...
Thank you Sally for saving me from a mistake!

any reason we care. 8 months is fine for akc dog to be bred. did the pups get papers. if you know so much then youll know.i think what is more wrong is when your site in 2003 it sayes 1-2 dogs will be spayed but they have had many more litters. you breed once per year now it is two.whats up with that.i seen that story to the one you have.your dogs were bred by them.is that true.you must be pained.too bad you dont fix yourself.who is we.to many stories and lies noone cankeep up.who cares.i like the mgnuget story better.it has more truth

we were telling the truth about this breeder breeding a baby at 8 to 9 months old. go to her site and look at koko. she has puppies. below is the info on koko that came straight from the official akc website. i see no moral or ethics here. sorry but this breeder did breed a baby. here is proof.

Dog: Koko Kolatta Of Willow Rose

Breed/Color: Shih Tzu/Red

Sex/Whelp Date: Female/SEP-09-2003

Registration/ILP No.: TR16146403

you say you are a great breeder, you say you do no wrong
QUOTE "It is really tireing to see so many breeders bashing each other rather than helping each other. To those who are spending their free time bashing other breeders, if you really want to help, why don't you make a list of good breeders and stop being so childish with all of your name calling and holyer than thou attitudes? If you really wanted to help you wouldn't spend your time acting like 3rd grade children airing everyones dirty laundry knowing good and well that you have dirty laundry of your own to tend to"
AND
"Very well put on all accounts!!! If you have to hurt others to make a sale, then you can't be much better as a breeder. I've seen a few websites that point fingers and call names and I can only say to the rest that see these same websites to remember those breeders free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it .... NOTHING! Half the stuff you see talking about people on these breeder websites are lies. Anything to make a sale for some people. I wouldn't touch those breeders puppies with a 10 foot pole. There has to be a reason for them to be trying so hard in such a harsh manner to sale a puppy.
Crystal
meilishihtzu
SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT YOURSELF? FOR MORE INFO READ ALL OF HER POSTS HERE AND ON THE COMPLAINT STATION.

you say you are a great breeder, you say you do no wrong
QUOTE "It is really tireing to see so many breeders bashing each other rather than helping each other. To those who are spending their free time bashing other breeders, if you really want to help, why don't you make a list of good breeders and stop being so childish with all of your name calling and holyer than thou attitudes? If you really wanted to help you wouldn't spend your time acting like 3rd grade children airing everyones dirty laundry knowing good and well that you have dirty laundry of your own to tend to"
AND
"Very well put on all accounts!!! If you have to hurt others to make a sale, then you can't be much better as a breeder. I've seen a few websites that point fingers and call names and I can only say to the rest that see these same websites to remember those breeders free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it .... NOTHING! Half the stuff you see talking about people on these breeder websites are lies. Anything to make a sale for some people. I wouldn't touch those breeders puppies with a 10 foot pole. There has to be a reason for them to be trying so hard in such a harsh manner to sale a puppy.
Crystal
meilishihtzu
SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT YOURSELF? FOR MORE INFO READ ALL OF HER POSTS HERE AND ON THE COMPLAINT STATION.

you say you are a great breeder, you say you do no wrong
QUOTE "It is really tireing to see so many breeders bashing each other rather than helping each other. To those who are spending their free time bashing other breeders, if you really want to help, why don't you make a list of good breeders and stop being so childish with all of your name calling and holyer than thou attitudes? If you really wanted to help you wouldn't spend your time acting like 3rd grade children airing everyones dirty laundry knowing good and well that you have dirty laundry of your own to tend to"
AND
"Very well put on all accounts!!! If you have to hurt others to make a sale, then you can't be much better as a breeder. I've seen a few websites that point fingers and call names and I can only say to the rest that see these same websites to remember those breeders free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it .... NOTHING! Half the stuff you see talking about people on these breeder websites are lies. Anything to make a sale for some people. I wouldn't touch those breeders puppies with a 10 foot pole. There has to be a reason for them to be trying so hard in such a harsh manner to sale a puppy.
Crystal
meilishihtzu
SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT YOURSELF? FOR MORE INFO READ ALL OF HER POSTS HERE AND ON THE COMPLAINT STATION.

The truth is they are smooth talkers and are easy to get taken in by when you first meet them. When they first approached me to buy a puppy they told me that they owned only 2 animals. A cat and a dog! (I have proof as I saved the emails) I found out later that this was not true. I was also told that they wanted the two puppies as show potential and that if they didn't turn out show quality the puppies would be spayed and spend their lives as pampered pets. I found out later that I was lied to.

In order to view the site you will need to copy and past into your browser. Rip off report does not allow clickable links. So I made it so that it would not be clickable. If they remove it anyway you can do a search on Mei Li Shih tzu and I will be glad to give you the link via email if you want to read the whole story. It is to long to post it all here.

ok i didnt just take thing as true. i went to the source and ask. i get no reply. look like they are pleading 5th and that is what the guilty party normally does. this way they dont incrimenate themself more. it only lead me to believe it true that the plan and breed a poor dog at 8 or 9 month old. no matter if it second heat or not. that seem to young to me. that poor girl is still a baby herself. look like these breeder who say they are so great are not so great after all.

It sounds wrong to me that a female dog be bred at under a year old when she's a baby herself. Why don't you dispute this allegation...must be because there's some truth to it..soem folks will do anything for a buck. Willow Rose stinks in my book!

i mean this breeder no dishonor but would like to ask a question. did you or did you not breed a dog on purpose at 9 or 10 months of age? everyone say research or ask instead of acuse. so i am asking in hope that you will answer honestly. i have to be honest. i did look on the internet and if i am correct in what i find your dog koko was born 09-09-03 at 4 paw shihtzu. am i right.

Rosalei can you be more specific on who you were talking about?I checked your link,but it is nothing more than a search query.When you click on it,it says: "13. Shih Tzu
... Cell: 417-288-9563. USDA and State Licensed. New York. Willow Rose Shih Tzu Richmondville, NY 12149 518-294-9029/518-234-1036. ... Lap Dog Kennels & Red River Eng. ... "I am assuming that is who you were talking about seeing what you posted under at the main heading.Did you go any farther and click the link?If not,here is what it says: "Sunvalley Kennel
Lebanon, Mo
Mike and Judy Slaughter
judy49@jobe.net
Home: 417-532-4685
Cell: 417-288-9563
USDA and State Licensed


New York
Willow Rose Shih Tzu
Richmondville, NY 12149
518-294-9029/518-234-1036
www.willowroseshihtzu.biz
willowroseshihtzu@hotmail.com"

Be more specified and check your links before you post them,if they were who you were talking about.If not then enlighten us.For those trying to get the truth about any breeder,I see this is not the place what-so ever.I have read pages and pages of breeder complaints and I doubt most of them are true.Maybe I should by a lhasa!!!

I am a breeder who was scammed by a mother daughter operation posing as buyers. go to here to see her USDA licensing http://mamma14.mamma.com/Mamma?qtype=0&query=kennels+in+richmondville+new+york

Hobby breeders DON'T need USDA licenses!

Helen,have you seen their dogs up close and personal?Do you have one?Know someone that does?How do you know the quality?How do you know anything?I doubt it,doubt you know anything.Sondra -would that be Sondra C.?Seems you have quite a bit of complaints about you,too.How unfortunate.You have the breeders names that they have lied to?These breeders sought you out and told you?Any proof?Can you not spell?You guys must have fun in the s.m.o.a.This gives you something to chat about there.Give it up all ready.The general public is tired of reading this nonsense.Back your claims with facts,and we would be more entitled to believe what is said.Did you all read the disclaimer on this site?"I attest the report is valid".The proof is in the pudding,but we just have powder here.

i know that they also lie to breederz to get pupz and then slander those breederz by using false namez to do it. there have been 3 breederz now that i know of that they have posted thingz about that are false and they use fake namez to do it.