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  • Report:  #465037

Complaint Review: 1200 Vine Street COA - Denver Colorado

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- Denver, Colorado,
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1200 Vine Street COA
1200 Vine Street Denver, 80206 Colorado, U.S.A.
Phone:
303-333-0473
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I sued them in Small Claims Court and lost. Judge awarded insurance company attorney legal fees. I sent COA a check. (I thought award was to COA but my attorney, much later, pointed out that it was not.) COA denied ever receiving it. I offered to write another if they would stipulate that they never received the first one. They ignored.

Insurance company (US Liability) was not going to try and collect from me so COA had insurance company assigned the award to them (although from paperwork it appears they only waived their rights to the award). They lied to myself and other homeowners that this ever happened. Have emails to prove the lies.

They then told me they were going to treat as Individual Personal Assessment. I requested hearing as governing documents affords me. They denied hearing.

They sent letter saying payment due 1/29/06. Declaration says no legal action until debt 60 days past due. They filed foreclosure proceedings 2/27/06. This is when I hired attorney and found out award was not to COA.

My attorney presented over 160 exhibits to support my case and all the violations of COA governing documents and Colorado Common Interest Ownership Act (CCIOA). These included:

(a) having mailed check to the COA on August 27, 2005, (affidavit asserting same was provided);

(b) when advised that check had not been received by the COA, made numerous offers to write another if the COA would assert in writing that it had not received the first check, (affidavits by Board of Directors submitted stating that it was To my understanding, Mr. Marotta refused to pay his debt owed to the 1200 Vine.., the Board of Directors has never denied under oath that they did not receive Plaintiff's check);

(c) received a letter from the COA requesting payment by January 29, 2006 (the COA Declarations state that the COA cannot take legal action until a debt is 60 days past due and hence legal action was a violation of the COA Declarations);

(d) the COA had failed to provide late notices as required by its Declaration, By-Laws, Rules & Regulations, and/or Policies;

(e) the COA, in treating the judgment as an Individual Personal Assessment (IPA), had exceeded its authority to assess as specified in its Declaration;

(f) after advising that it was treating the judgment as an IPA, refused to grant a hearing as required by its Declaration, By-Laws, Rules & Regulations, and/or Policies;

(g) the COA was in violation of numerous provisions of the Colorado Common Interest Ownership Act (CCIOA) including but not limited to acting in good faith with respect to numerous issues related to the foreclosure action;

(h) the award by the Small Claims Court was to the law firm of Wood, Rymes and Hames and not to the COA (this was supported by trial transcripts and was clearly so indicated on the case file jacket);

(i) Wood, Rymes and Hames was paid by the COA

insurance carrier, the insurance carrier waived all claims against homeowner and the COA, entered into an agreement with their insurance carrier to establish a claim against homeowner and attempted to conceal all this from homeowner.

(j) the COA then entered into an agreement with the insurance carrier to collect the judgment while not being assigned its insurance company's right of subrogation;

(k) homeowner, as an insured, was protected against subrogation;

(l) Small Claims Court is limited by statute to awards of $7,500.00 or less;

(m) the Small Claims Court lacked jurisdiction since the court itself asserted that the initial case it heard was injunctive in nature;

(n) the COA failed and or limited its responses to repeated requests for disclosures, production of documents, interrogatories, and admissions;

(o) the COA acknowledged in a Board of Directors meeting of the destruction of COA records which had been sought by homeowner;

(n) as well as numerous other irregularities and defenses.

Case No. 06CV2358 was assigned to Judge Mullins who awarded summary judgment to COA on 6/7/07 without a trial. Summary judgment means that even though he believed EVERYTHING I said, a jury would not have found in my favor. What would you have found if seated on that jury remembering that EVERYTHING I said above is true?

An appeal was logged with the Appellate Court, Case No. 07CA1374, who upheld the lower courts ruling. Judge Terry wrote the opinion with Judges Vogt (now retired) and Lichenstein concurring.

Of particular note is their statement: Regardless of whether ..... mailed the Association a check for payment of the assessment, it is undisputed that funds were never disbursed to the association. Thus ...... never satisfied the debt. In other words, if your COA/HOA does not cash your check, they can then foreclose on you! How do you like that ruling?

The Colorado Supreme Court was then petitioned, Case No. 08SC918, but they refused to hear the case.

It should be fairly obvious from the above that homeowners are totally at the mercy of corrupt COA/HOA organizations and that the provisions of CCIOA are there for their protection and not the protection of the homeowners themselves. This is particularly true in any association that is represented by HindmanSanchez who are the lowest form of attorneys possible.

It is time for homeowners in COA/HOA associations to do something to reform not only the rules governing COA/HOA associations but also to reform the judicial system. Judge Mullins makes a totally absolutely incorrect ruling (and is protected by judicial immunity), the Appellate Court compounds the error (and is protected by judicial immunity) and the Colorado Supreme Court says it can't be bothered trying to protect the rights of homeowners and due process requirements of the US Constitution (they didn't say that exactly but that is exactly what they inferred).

COA/HOA associations have to be placed under the authority of the Real Estate Commission. The courts refuse to be the watchdog they are supposed to be or else they side with the fellow attorneys to enable them to bring suit to line their pockets with homeowner money. Of course, they realize that one day when they leave the bench for private practice they will be able to do the same thing themselves.

Judges have to be held accountable for such obvious miscarriages of justice. Judicial immunity allows judges like Mullins (it has been related to me that Judge Mullins is somewhat lazy and also not well versed in real estate law) to ignore the facts of the case and ease their workloads by "passing the buck" regardless of the impact on the person who is being wronged. The Appellate Court obviously did not review the case either or if they did they are totally incompetent.

What do you think?

Michael

Denver, Colorado

U.S.A.


2 Updates & Rebuttals

Rachel

Centennial,
Colorado,
USA
Don't back down

#2

Thu, August 13, 2009

I am a real estate investor and own property in which Hindman Sanchez is the attorney for the HOA.  I know they weren't the entire source of your problems but from what I know they were probably driving the train.  I too have had issues with them being what I consider unethical.  We have considered purchasing many properties in which we've had to contact Hindman Sanchez to determine what is outstanding on the HOAs.  I'm usually floored at the additional late fees and legal fees they tack on.  Unfortunately they know that we as investors and you as a homeowner will do whatever you have to (including paying what ever you have to) to keep your home (for us to purchase the home) so they know we will pay the fees to make them go away.  With regard to our issue, we received one ledger for fees owed and the next month got another that didn't even remotely match the first, but regardless they wanted payment.  I have asked repeatedly what the fees are for since we don't think we owe them anything, but they have not yet responded.  We do know that we received two letters from the management company about dead grass and trees (we purchased the property in February and immediately started getting notices about the grass and trees which obviously couldn't even be addressed until May), but Hindman Sanchez shouldn't have had any involvement at all in the sending of those standard form letters. So far they have racked up over $800.00 in fees and they just keep adding to them without any explanation as to what they are for. It's extremely frustrating, and what's even more frustrating is that we need to  resolve the issue or just pay it regardless of whether the fees are legitimate or not in order to sell the property. They have us over a barrel.  

It appears that you have read Makai's report on her problems with them also.  Hopefully the Colorado Appellate court will rule in your favor. I can't wait to see the outcome.  If that does not go your way, consider doing what she did and file a complaint against them with the Colorado Supreme Court, Attorney Regulations Office, or just do it anyway.  It looks like she got her money back from Hindman Sanchez and that the Supreme Court agreed with her.  Hopefully you can also recover some of your money that way.  As my current issue with Hindman Sanchez continues and is not resolved (I don't see them backing down) I will also file a complaint with the Supreme Court.  I don't think the Supreme Court can continue to ignore their unethical practices if enough of us turn them in.


No justice

Denver,
Colorado,
U.S.A.
update

#3Author of original report

Sat, June 27, 2009

Appeared in court today for a hearing on attorney fees as the Appellate Court had ruled. Don't know the outcome yet; but will update this report when I do. The thing I found most upsetting that was when I returned home; I was given two (2) violation notices (had been given about 8 yesterday). All of which were totally baseless and unfounded. If the board ever provides me with CCTV tapes that I have requested, they will definitely show that more than one report is a total pack of lies! Since I live alone, it is rather difficult to disprove their lies but the CCTV tapes will do so very nicely. It appears that the COA does not think sending to the poor house is sufficient. It appears as if they are going to try and have me evicted since I intend to continue my fight in any legal fashion that I can to force them to adhere to our governing documents and Colorado law; which they refuse to do. I should point out that I am one of the few people in the building that adheres to the Rules & Regulations. There has been no violations filed against me for a considrable amount of time; but since I recently filed some against a board member for a fire code violation, the board has sent me almost 10 violations. All of them baseless and not even listed in the Rules & Regulations as violations but that doesn't stop the harassment. My reason for reporting this is to warn people that they have better not buy into any COA/HOA that has HindmanSanchez as their attorney. As another Ripoff report indicated, HindmanSanchez for all essential purposes CAUSES the problems so that they can run up attorney fees. Since Colorado Courts are not the source of justice and ignore homeowner rights in favor of their legal brethens; I would strongly suggest that everyone refrain from ever purchasing any property that involves a COA/HOA. They may have a decent board today; but what about tomorrow? Some of you might be asking yourselves: Why don't I move? Well, besides the fact that I like the building (although not some of the people who live in it), its location and amentities; the legal battle has forced me to take out a home equity loan and essentially depleted all my savings. An attorney has suggested backruptcy; but I am reluctant to go that route. I was raised to be responsible. (Too bad judges don't feel that they have a responsibility!) I am 64 years old, retired and will now be living on my Social Security and from check to check and hoping there is enough there to meet my expenses.

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