Walter
Rome,#2Consumer Comment
Mon, July 21, 2003
Peter, in your own rebuttle you pont to the source of this excerpt -- "A federal district court order bars defendants from seeking payment from thousands of consumers who the defendants billed for Internet videotext services the consumers did not agree to purchase. Under an Order issued by U.S. District Court Judge R. W. Story in the Northern District of Georgia, defendants Alyon Technologies, Inc., Telcollect, Inc., and Stephane Touboul are prohibited from billing, collecting, or attempting to collect payment from consumers without first fully disclosing the material terms of the sale to the consumer, or someone authorized to act to incur the charges, and also verifying that the person receiving the services was authorized to incur the charges." What part of "... federal district court order bars defendants from seeking payment..." do you have difficulty comprehending? Alyon is *BARRED FROM FURTHER VICTIMIZING AMERICANS*. Alyon will never see one red cent from me :) :) :) http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/07/alyon1.htm
Walter
Rome,#3Consumer Comment
Mon, July 21, 2003
Peter, in your own rebuttle you pont to the source of this excerpt -- "A federal district court order bars defendants from seeking payment from thousands of consumers who the defendants billed for Internet videotext services the consumers did not agree to purchase. Under an Order issued by U.S. District Court Judge R. W. Story in the Northern District of Georgia, defendants Alyon Technologies, Inc., Telcollect, Inc., and Stephane Touboul are prohibited from billing, collecting, or attempting to collect payment from consumers without first fully disclosing the material terms of the sale to the consumer, or someone authorized to act to incur the charges, and also verifying that the person receiving the services was authorized to incur the charges." What part of "... federal district court order bars defendants from seeking payment..." do you have difficulty comprehending? Alyon is *BARRED FROM FURTHER VICTIMIZING AMERICANS*. Alyon will never see one red cent from me :) :) :) http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/07/alyon1.htm
Walter
Rome,#4Consumer Comment
Mon, July 21, 2003
Peter, in your own rebuttle you pont to the source of this excerpt -- "A federal district court order bars defendants from seeking payment from thousands of consumers who the defendants billed for Internet videotext services the consumers did not agree to purchase. Under an Order issued by U.S. District Court Judge R. W. Story in the Northern District of Georgia, defendants Alyon Technologies, Inc., Telcollect, Inc., and Stephane Touboul are prohibited from billing, collecting, or attempting to collect payment from consumers without first fully disclosing the material terms of the sale to the consumer, or someone authorized to act to incur the charges, and also verifying that the person receiving the services was authorized to incur the charges." What part of "... federal district court order bars defendants from seeking payment..." do you have difficulty comprehending? Alyon is *BARRED FROM FURTHER VICTIMIZING AMERICANS*. Alyon will never see one red cent from me :) :) :) http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/07/alyon1.htm
Walter
Rome,#5Consumer Comment
Mon, July 21, 2003
Peter, in your own rebuttle you pont to the source of this excerpt -- "A federal district court order bars defendants from seeking payment from thousands of consumers who the defendants billed for Internet videotext services the consumers did not agree to purchase. Under an Order issued by U.S. District Court Judge R. W. Story in the Northern District of Georgia, defendants Alyon Technologies, Inc., Telcollect, Inc., and Stephane Touboul are prohibited from billing, collecting, or attempting to collect payment from consumers without first fully disclosing the material terms of the sale to the consumer, or someone authorized to act to incur the charges, and also verifying that the person receiving the services was authorized to incur the charges." What part of "... federal district court order bars defendants from seeking payment..." do you have difficulty comprehending? Alyon is *BARRED FROM FURTHER VICTIMIZING AMERICANS*. Alyon will never see one red cent from me :) :) :) http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/07/alyon1.htm
Pam
K,#6Consumer Comment
Mon, July 21, 2003
which basically means that they negotiated an agreement by which they must process refunds to some people who paid them, they will be monitored for compliance (The FTC can "pose" as customers of Alyon, to see if they are complying, and much more was agreed to by Alyon in the consent order.). Compliance will be tracked.
IF ALYON doesn't comply, they can be taken back to Court. THe lawsuit is still alive, except that Alyon has AGREED to A CONSENT ORDER to avoid a WORSE FATE.
EVERYONE needs to go read the actual order, it is quite interesting, Alyon has agreed to quit practices which consumers complained about and an Arbiter has been assigned to overssee that Alyon does what they agreed to.
On July 10, 2003, Judge Richard W. Story filed his order. Here is a link directly to the actual court document:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2003/07/alyonorder.pdf
Pam
K,#7Consumer Comment
Mon, July 21, 2003
which basically means that they negotiated an agreement by which they must process refunds to some people who paid them, they will be monitored for compliance (The FTC can "pose" as customers of Alyon, to see if they are complying, and much more was agreed to by Alyon in the consent order.). Compliance will be tracked.
IF ALYON doesn't comply, they can be taken back to Court. THe lawsuit is still alive, except that Alyon has AGREED to A CONSENT ORDER to avoid a WORSE FATE.
EVERYONE needs to go read the actual order, it is quite interesting, Alyon has agreed to quit practices which consumers complained about and an Arbiter has been assigned to overssee that Alyon does what they agreed to.
On July 10, 2003, Judge Richard W. Story filed his order. Here is a link directly to the actual court document:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2003/07/alyonorder.pdf
Pam
K,#8Consumer Comment
Mon, July 21, 2003
which basically means that they negotiated an agreement by which they must process refunds to some people who paid them, they will be monitored for compliance (The FTC can "pose" as customers of Alyon, to see if they are complying, and much more was agreed to by Alyon in the consent order.). Compliance will be tracked.
IF ALYON doesn't comply, they can be taken back to Court. THe lawsuit is still alive, except that Alyon has AGREED to A CONSENT ORDER to avoid a WORSE FATE.
EVERYONE needs to go read the actual order, it is quite interesting, Alyon has agreed to quit practices which consumers complained about and an Arbiter has been assigned to overssee that Alyon does what they agreed to.
On July 10, 2003, Judge Richard W. Story filed his order. Here is a link directly to the actual court document:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2003/07/alyonorder.pdf
Dan
Cockeysville,#9Consumer Comment
Mon, July 21, 2003
Ah, Peter you Alyon employee you. That "confirmed source" you mentioned is Alyons public relations firm, their press release is baloney. The judge denied The FTC request for a preliminary injunction because it was a MOOT issue. Note the word "MOOT" , it is all over the judge's decision. It means that Alyon caved and gave The FTC almost everything they wanted. Alyon's spin doctors are trying hard to provide a victory out of a total loss. Won't work. I cannot hardly wait until the trials start. PS. IF ALYON SENDS A BOGUS BILL OR A THREAT OF COLLECTION TO ANYONE, JUST FORWARD IT TO THE FTC FOR INVESTIGATION. IF YOU WERE HARRASSED BY ALYON AND SENT MONEY, REQUEST RESTITUTION THROUGH THE FTC http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/07/alyon1.htm
Robin
Waldron,#10Consumer Comment
Mon, July 21, 2003
The full copy of Judge Story's ruling is available at:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/2003/07/alyonorder.pdf
Here is the FTC News Release, Alyon lies again:
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/07/alyon1.htm
Read it and weep!
Peter, your Yahoo article reads like more Alyon propaganda. Alyon may ATTEMPT to collect debts through a dispute process involving both Alyon AND the FTC...Ha,ha. I wish 'em luck! The very fact that Alyon is constrained by a dispute process tells me that Judge Story found reasonable cause to believe that there was something fishy going on.
You moles just keep coming, don't cha'? Give it up; Alyon is DEAD!
Peter
Manchester,#11Consumer Comment
Sun, July 20, 2003
Don't believe everything the federal government tells you. The FTC made their press release misleading on purpose. There are already several confirmed sources that state that the Judge threw out all FTC allegations and allows Alyon to collect all pending debts.
Here is a link to the press release:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030714/nym112_1.html
UPDATE: Read this from the FTC:
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/07/alyon1.htm