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  • Report:  #230900

Complaint Review: E-Bay - Internet

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- Winnipeg, Manitoba,
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E-Bay
ebay.com Internet, U.S.A.
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Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
Well, well, well... I don't know where to start with this company. I've had bad experiences with them and kept using them, but I'm officially done. Kind of happy I'm suspended now.

Where to start... Well firstly, my account was hacked twice. First time they did something... the second time they did nothing. Didn't answer my emails, whatsoever and I got a non paying bidder because of it from someone who bought something on my account. Still no response.

Secondly, I sold tons of things around Xmas for some extra cash and had to problems which were never resolved. The first... Some guy bought a CD player from me for 300$ and never paid. He said his account was hacked and eBay apparently told him we had to fix the problem ourselves. This is not true. Ebay would've reversed all the fees, etc for his account being hacked.

This was a lie, so I emailed ebay SEVERAL times to help me out with the problem. No responses. Contacted live support... they did nothing but tell me they couldn't help me and I had to contact Trust and Safety. Filed a non paying bidder but never got my fees back.

Thirdly, one of my MANY auctions were pulled for no reason whatsoever. I listed an auction for 2 boxed set DVDs for the First and Second season of the TV show Rescue Me. Both DVD's were brand new. Got an email saying it was pulled because it violated eBay's terms. In no way did it.

They were both original and stated in the auction they are brand new and the REAL DVDS. No bootlegs. I sold many other DVD auctions at the same time, but they weren't pulled. Got one email saying they weren't aloud to tell me why it was pulled. Contacted them many other times and they refused to answer my emails like usual.

Fourth... I bought a rare, rare, rare CD that I've been looking for for years now. The ebayer was infact an ebay employee himself, which makes the situation worse. For anyone who might run into him in the future on ebay his id is gbayemporium. Be careful when buying his auctions. Remember he is an ebay employee, not a regular ebayer either.

He contacted me after 24 hours of winning the auction saying he was relisting it and filing a non paying bidder because I did not pay for the item. Generally your aloud 7-10 days for payment until they can file a non paying bidder. I told him I wanted it and was paying for it. It was only 24 hours since the auction was won. He relisted it immediately and left me NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. I asked him what the reason was for It's only been 24 hours and I was sending payment that moment. He said too bad, too late, etc. He sent harassing emails and called me several insulting names. Very very immature guy and he should NOT be an employee for eBay if that's how he handled the situation.

But wait, it seems like all ebay employees are the same. They don't give a d**n about you or any of their customers. So I contacted eBay and they wouldn't remove the feedback. It also had an insulting name in it, but still. Paid 30 bucks for a company through eBay to investigate. Paid but never got any service or emails or responses. He filed negative feedback because he eventually he couldn't file a non paying bidder because it was only 24 hours and he was being ignorant. I'm gonna stop there because I don't wanna keep ranting about this moron.

So I send many many many emails now because I'm extremely pi**ed off and upset over the past how many situations and how they aren't emailing me at all. Contacted live support, they did nothing but of course directed me to the profanity and trust and safety department for this guy. Emailed them the harassing and insulting emails and what happened with the relist. NO EMAILS AT ALL. Not one response.

Contacted ebay live support again and they told me he was not aloud to do this. Have a transcript of it too. They said he can't relist and I'm aloud the 7-10 period. So whatever I just dropped it because obviously no one wanted to help me.

A few weeks later, approx last week... I got an email saying my account was suspended... for NO REASON. I have never done anything to violate their terms. I have been an honest and good eBayer since I signed up. Reason was for apparently I was "associated with another suspended user" which is not true because I don't know ANY other I've had contact with besides from purchases. I emailed them several times and no responses at all. Nothing.

Now I can't finish any transactions through eBay I had going and probably recieved a few negatives for it. There was no reason to suspend my account. I told them I had it with the company and wanted to be phoned and not emailed. All their live support and emails are, are people typing to you prewritten scripts and nothing is sincere or helpful.

Finally got an email today saying that they will not reopen my account and they will not tell me what I have done, cause I've done nothing at all. I'm not even going to email them back because a) they won't email me back and b) I don't want to associate anymore with such a bull**** company. Done! I hope there are a few of you that know what I'm talking about and probably have been mistreated too.

I've spent countless hours trying to get help from this company and sent multiple emails. Upwards of 20. 1 or 2 which were acknowledged. Funny thing is live support told me they were all read but none were answered. They don't care, they just want your stupid money. And they charged my bank account for all the outstanding fees for things that were screwed up by themselves.

I am so disappointed and upset, I've never been treated as poorly as this company. I do not recommend use by ANYONE... but they don't care cause they have millions of users and money. What do they care? Thanks to all of you who took the time to read this!

Taylor

Winnipeg, Manitoba
Canada

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28 Updates & Rebuttals

Menyon

Bremerton,
Washington,
U.S.A.
Gbayemporium suspended from eBay by mistake??????

#2Consumer Comment

Sat, April 11, 2009

GBAYEMPORIUM SUSPENDED James - USA (Saturday, April 11, 2009) Justice? Geoff Holland aka ebay member Gbayemporium suspended from Ebay. However he claims it was a foul-up. He was reinstated after approx 8 hours. I do not for 1 minute believe that Ebay mistakenly' suspended him. All of his 5000 listings were removed, his blog completely deleted. He can claim it was a foul-up if he wants to. I just can't believe that Ebay would remove a gold powerseller with over 5000 listings without reason. I am sure that since he lives very close to the Burnaby office then he probably went down there and persuaded them (his friends)to let him back in. Ebay is corruptthe back door left WIDE OPEN.


Menyon

Bremerton,
Washington,
U.S.A.
Gbayemporium suspended from eBay by mistake??????

#3Consumer Comment

Sat, April 11, 2009

GBAYEMPORIUM SUSPENDED James - USA (Saturday, April 11, 2009) Justice? Geoff Holland aka ebay member Gbayemporium suspended from Ebay. However he claims it was a foul-up. He was reinstated after approx 8 hours. I do not for 1 minute believe that Ebay mistakenly' suspended him. All of his 5000 listings were removed, his blog completely deleted. He can claim it was a foul-up if he wants to. I just can't believe that Ebay would remove a gold powerseller with over 5000 listings without reason. I am sure that since he lives very close to the Burnaby office then he probably went down there and persuaded them (his friends)to let him back in. Ebay is corruptthe back door left WIDE OPEN.


Menyon

Bremerton,
Washington,
U.S.A.
Gbayemporium suspended from eBay by mistake??????

#4Consumer Comment

Sat, April 11, 2009

GBAYEMPORIUM SUSPENDED James - USA (Saturday, April 11, 2009) Justice? Geoff Holland aka ebay member Gbayemporium suspended from Ebay. However he claims it was a foul-up. He was reinstated after approx 8 hours. I do not for 1 minute believe that Ebay mistakenly' suspended him. All of his 5000 listings were removed, his blog completely deleted. He can claim it was a foul-up if he wants to. I just can't believe that Ebay would remove a gold powerseller with over 5000 listings without reason. I am sure that since he lives very close to the Burnaby office then he probably went down there and persuaded them (his friends)to let him back in. Ebay is corruptthe back door left WIDE OPEN.


Menyon

Bremerton,
Washington,
U.S.A.
Texas Two Step is gbayemporium

#5Consumer Comment

Wed, April 08, 2009

Geoffrey Hollanda kak gbayemporiuum firts tried the texastwostep on my entry but he errored and gave himself away.I called him on it and he came up with the lame excuse that he was just trying to prove how easy it was for peoiple to make up an ID and post liers.The only one doing that though is gbayemporium aka texastwo step aka menyon(a copy of my ID).He is sure a classy guy who feels that the world is totally against him and he is the onlt intelligent person alive.


Kan-lai

Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada
who is this Texastwostep?

#6Consumer Suggestion

Wed, April 01, 2009

This Texastwostep from Amarillo, Texas above was putting in a good word for his gbayemporium. Don't tell me that he loves gbaye so much, that he'd do a google search on him and stumble across this page! I don't do searches on every ebay sellers that were "pleasant". Obviously, gbaye begged this Texastwostep for help and gave him a link to this page. This just goes to show how underhanded this GBAYE is. Why don't we all get friends and family to put in some fake report here like ebay did?? Laughable. Yeah, Texastwostep...aka Geoff Holland's cousin/dad/fellow convict... I'm sure so many people are picking on gbaye for no reason.He must be just a great classy guy who was attacked because he is cursed and the star signs are just not on his side these days....whatever! What's next? Another satisfied gbayemporium customer ACCIDENTALLY stumbled across this page and put in more good words for him? Let me guess...Texastwostep returns to give another rebuttal because he cares so much about gbayemporium that he'd come here to check on the replies?


Menyon

Bremerton,
Washington,
U.S.A.
Gbayemporium Protest Website

#7Consumer Comment

Fri, January 23, 2009

http://gbayemporiumpredator.page.tl/


Menyon

Bremerton,
Washington,
U.S.A.
The Correct youtube video link

#8Consumer Comment

Wed, January 21, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5tXdu7TZs To err is human to forgive is not in gbayemporium's vocabulary/


Gbayemporium

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
Paula Cole video?

#9Consumer Comment

Mon, January 19, 2009

Wow, in case you didn't already realize how completely out his mind this guy is, he now seems to think I'm responsible for a Paula Cole video. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!


Gbayemporium

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
Paula Cole video?

#10Consumer Comment

Mon, January 19, 2009

Wow, in case you didn't already realize how completely out his mind this guy is, he now seems to think I'm responsible for a Paula Cole video. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!


Gbayemporium

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
Paula Cole video?

#11Consumer Comment

Mon, January 19, 2009

Wow, in case you didn't already realize how completely out his mind this guy is, he now seems to think I'm responsible for a Paula Cole video. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!


Menyon

Bremerton,
Washington,
U.S.A.
Watch This Video About Gbayemporium on Youtube

#12Consumer Comment

Mon, January 19, 2009

This video is really self explanatory about gbayemporium's preadatory behaviors and lack of any respect for other humans.It's sad to say that about a person but it appears that he has no conscience. http://blogs.ebay.com/princess-loves-pink/entry/Where-have-all-the-cowboys-gone/_W0QQidZ824862019 Watch it in normal rather than high mode located on the right hand lower side of the video


Geoffrey

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
My suggestion is that ripoff report is a complete joke.

#13Consumer Suggestion

Thu, January 08, 2009

For one, they don't post every rebuttal. For two, as proven above, ANYONE can create an ID and post good or bad stuff. I could probably create another 100 ID's to say wonderful things about myself, or bad things about other people. ripoff report is the ripoff. ROFLMAO!!


Texastwostep

Amarillo,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Well Robert...

#14REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sun, January 04, 2009

If this moron posts my personal information and makes it available to people who would not otherwise have any reason to know it, it becomes a cross border stalking issue. Especially when threats of violence are made. Like that one about someone wanting to hit me in the balls with a baseball bat. One of your friends from HH.


Texastwostep

Amarillo,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Nothing but good things to say about gbayemporium.

#15Consumer Comment

Sun, January 04, 2009

I feel bad that these people are attacking this fine eBay seller for no good reason. I've had many excellent experiences buying from him on eBay, and would recommend him to anyone as being a trusted and friendly seller.


Robert

Buffalo,
New York,
U.S.A.
Prosecution for what?

#16Consumer Comment

Sun, January 04, 2009

This should be good for a laugh! Tell us why he would be prosecuted? What LAW is applicable that would warrent prosecution? Take your time gbay, we'll wait.


Geoffrey

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
Oh, and by the way....

#17REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sun, January 04, 2009

There's no law allowing protest websites!! ROFLMAO!! David, you're brilliant advice has put your new "friend" and my stalker into a word of legal hurt. All the whois info gives me everything I need! Thanks David!!


Geoffrey

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
Who the heck is this David guy?

#18REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sat, January 03, 2009

Whoever this coward is, he has no idea what he's talking about, that much is obvious. Believe me David, the minute you post my personal information on the internet is the minute YOU put yourself at risk of prosecution. Why don't you be a man and tell me who you really are?


David

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.
Geoffrey Holland (Vancouver Canada)

#19Consumer Suggestion

Fri, January 02, 2009

This guy lives in Vancouver Canada. I will be posting his full name and address on the Internet for anyone who seeks to take legal action against him. You are also legally entitled under the U.S. constitution to start a "sucks dot com" website with his name noted on it. For example "GeoffreyLastnameSucks". Under the law, this is considered a protest website and he will not be able to have it removed. Just post the truth about him.


David

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.
Violation of U.S. Laws (gbayemporium)

#20Consumer Suggestion

Fri, January 02, 2009

The situation with the eBay seller gbayemporium has been brought to my attention by individuals who have filed complaints against him. It appears that this individuals has been harassing a number of people over the Internet. I have also witnessed defamatory posts made by him against an eBay buyer. In addition, in the past 12 months, he has received 43 negative comments from buyers on eBay. This individual is subject to U.S. Laws as he is accessing Internet databases and leaving harassing and defamatory comments against individuals. For example, he has accessed the eBay U.S. database located in California to post his harassing and defamatory posts. A claim could be made under Cal. Civil Code Section 527.6(b) "Harassment" and Section 45 "Defamation". See Leydon v. Alexander 212 Cal. App.3d 1,5 (1989) and Weller v. Am Broad Cos., In., 232 Cal. App.3rd 991. Under the Hague Convention, the U.S. Marshal's office will send you an application to fill out. You send a company of your lawsuit to the Canada attorney general with the U.S. Marshal's application. The Canada attorney general will serve him with the lawsuit for free. If you can't afford the Court filing fee for your complaint, the Court will give you an application to fill out that will allow you to file the complaint for free. This application is also available online. When you receive a judgment against him, there are debt collectors who will do all the work for you to get it enforced in Canada in exchange for a percentage. They will go after his eBay sales, any and all of his assets and even his pay check.


Geoffrey

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
Kan Lai believes in incest.

#21REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, December 05, 2008

From his threatening email to ME. "Sure...if I ever have a sister, I rather f**k her than f**king somebody like you..and I certainly won't be desperate enough to french kiss my dog." Wow, what a complete psychopath! Karma is controlled by you Kan Lai. Your constant lies about this case and other cases of theft prove you to be unstable and not to be trusted. Anyone who goes around buying illicit telephone call recording devices certainly cannot be trusted. Kan Lai can and will LIE.


Kan-lai

Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada
he just sent a threatening email to me, dont deal with him...he's dangerous

#22Consumer Suggestion

Fri, December 05, 2008

and he's kept the paypal invoice with my address on it... and replied to me with it to hint that he knows where I live??..with a message like this....if you're smart, then you can decide whether to buy anything from this guy and let him have your info Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:50:37 -0800 [07:50:37 EST] > >you WILL find out the hard way that karma really f**king >sucks.


Geoffrey

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
Wow, KAN LAI has no class. Talk about a stalker, now he's posting my stolen photo?

#23REBUTTAL Owner of company

Thu, December 04, 2008

He's also suggesting that people do ILLEGAL chargebacks.He's going down. Anyone who believes this complete creep needs their head examined. Kan Lai is a liar.


Kan-lai

Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada
Chargeback!

#24Consumer Suggestion

Fri, November 28, 2008

He's telling you that he didn't get a chargeback so you'd think it won't work, but I'm telling you..chargeback on him. IT WORKED!! Geoffrey Holland (gayemporium) is the seller, I'm only the buyer.... I can't steal your money, HE CAN. Thanks to someone who knows this trailer trash in real life. After reading about my unfortunate incident, she sent me his picture. http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s109/kan_lai/GeoffHolland.jpg I heard this man also sells his 3rd world bootlegs in Burnaby, BC..if you see this ugly, fat trailer trash in real life, don't buy from him! A picture is worth 1000 words. It just screams ugly, nasty, lonely trailer trash with no woman.


Geoffrey

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
Kan Lai is full of lies. One might say he Can and Does Lie.

#25REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sun, August 24, 2008

No chargeback was made, or Paypal would have notified me. No racist emails were sent to this person. Avoid doing business with Kan Lai as they are rude, aggressive and cannot be trusted.


Kan-lai

Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada
chargeback on this gayemporium moron

#26Consumer Suggestion

Sun, August 03, 2008

It's clear that this Geoff Holland is a dumbass, What can one scam from this low class ebay crook? Take his bootleg cds and run? This jackass does not even have a brain. I'll forward emails to those who are interested send me an email at (((ROR redacted))) I suggest a credit card chargeback and toss that garbage this trailer trash sold to the land fill. I got back all my money. anyone who bought his garbage by accident...CHARGEBACK! Make this loser lose money and close up his shop for good CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.


Geoffrey

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
Kan Lai - the name says it all.

#27REBUTTAL Owner of company

Thu, June 05, 2008

Kan AND WILL Lai. Get it? It's really easy to put a bunch of text into a box and claim it's real. This clown tried to scam me. He didn't get away with it. End of story.


Kan-lai

Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada
regarding this gbayemporium garbage

#28Consumer Suggestion

Mon, May 26, 2008

This Geoff Holland - gbayemporium is complete garbage. http://myworld.ebay.com/gbayemporium He is a good seller if you are ignorant and buy whatever garbage he sells and don't complain. He's basically someone who has personal issues...he thrives on being aggressive and attacks anyone who doesn't obey him. He is very hurt and insecure and is out there to get whoever that is in his way, but poses as being friendly and nice to keep the $$ coming. send me an email at [email protected] I'll send anyone screencaps or forward his emails to you...you'll know the REAL Geoff Holland. I have another email as well from another member who was also his victom. He gets his cds from various sources and in many cases, third world countries with poor production quality and DVDs that simply doesn't work in North America. If you give him a negative feedback, he reciprocates that with a retaliatory feedback, but then he whines and complains on his blog when he gets a retaliatory feedback. This person is basically very rotten and risky to deal with. Don't purchase from him if you care about the quality of the product. If you're like most people who really can't tell the difference between an illegal Argentinian CD with poor sound quality and unplayable R2 DVD or a North American edition of the CD, then go ahead and buy from him. To make it worse, he obviously knows that and is intentionally doing that to rip people off. I bought a Michael Buble - Caught in the Act CD+DVD from him, it turns out the CD+DVD set is made in Argentina and unplayable in Canada. Now, how can a Canadian seller sell foreign R2 dvds in Canada? Isn't that illegal? He didn't know that it's illegal and thought he can get away with it and dared me to complain to paypal. Hey, Paypal sided with me because I wasn't the only victim, but they want me to send the CD back to him register lettered ..which means it will cost more than the cd itself and this con artist will get his merchandize back unpunished. SO beware! I left him a negative feedback and he left me a negative as well. Here're some beautiful email exchanges: Feb 3, 08 10:22PM From Geoff Holland: >you tell me exactly where the item doesn't match the description, including the >barcode. >Oh, and welcome to the banned bidder list as well. >Idiots like you should be banned from eBay. My reply: >It has nothing to do with the description, MORON. >You violated Canadian law by importing cheap foreign version of recorded media >in Canada that has Canadian rights. Scumbag ignorant sellers like yourself have >no place on ebay. I will have to report that to that Canadian customs as well as >ebay and let them take care of you. >You don't even need to waste anymore of your useless time to block me from >buying your items because you selling foreign garbage and you are a criminal and >a shame to Canadians. Feb 4, 08 12:34AM From Geoff Holland: >you're probably not even Canadian, so who are you to call me a shame to >Canadians? What country did you sneak in here from? Feb 4, 08 1:49AM From Geoff Holland: >f**king immigrant piece of s**t. You are pathetic. >Nothing I sell is illegal. Can you say the same you c***k f**k piece of crap? He is someone with many personal issues, aggression and racism. Bascially, someone who is angry and screwed up ....just complete filth. Then he begs to have me withdraw my negative feedback I send him a message: May 16, 08 7:38PM From Kan Lai >No way am I withdrawing that negative feedback. >I still haven't gotten a legal copy of the cd+dvd nor did I get that refund. >Having 1 less negative feedback won't make a difference to me, sellers don't >choose buyers, but buyers choose sellers. May 16, 08 8:01PM From Geoff Holland >in case you were totally clueless, to get a refund you were told to return the >CD/DVD with tracking. Duh. May 16, 08 8:39PM From Kan Lai >So that I will have to pay for the return shipping+tracking and watch an imbecile >like yourself get the cd back and resell it? No way! >I'm 10 steps ahead of you, that's why idiots like yourself have to smuggle cds to >make ends meet and depend on handouts from people like me! > >My advice to you, suck it up, that negative feedback is here to stay! May 16, 08 8:53PM From Geoff Holland >hey, your fb is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than mine, you need the help more >than I do cccm. May 16, 08 9:03 From Kan Lai >I'm not as stupid as you are. The fact that you're trying to persuade me to >retract that feedback is solid proof that YOU need the help more than I do. >I wonder why you're suddenly so desperate. Hmm...probably on the verge of >losing your account? Who knows...I just don't care! >Maybe I'll get someone to bid and leave you a "great" feedback just to beat the >dead horse or rat, in your case. >Sure, I'll get rid of that feedback for $50, otherwise, disappear from my sight, >scum! May 16, 08 9:12PM From Geoff Holland >well smart guy, I'm not the one threatening to break eBay policy by using a >different account to leave unwarranted feedback, illegal as you're a blocked >bidder. >I'm also not the genius who used the eBay mail system to attempt to extort >feedback removal for $50. >Can't wait to see your suspension!! The audacity of him to ask for a removal of that negative feedback! He tries to turn the tables around and think he can really make a case. Bascially this shows you the kind of attitude he has towards customer service. He is a racist, he is irresponsible and extremely disgusting. He's also very delusional and works hard at persuading ebay to get his customers suspended and I think that's what happened in your case. Whether he works for ebay or not, I don't care, bascially he lies and takes words out of context hoping to persuade employees to rule things his way. You might've gotten a really stupid ebay employee who believed him and therefore suspended your account. I got an email from ebay informing me that they received a complain from this ebayemporium garbage as well, but that ebay customer service employee had an ounce of brain and did not side with him. Of course, I sent ebay all of his emails and let them know what happened. I'm sure they're disgusted by his actions as well. This Geoff Holland is just a lost person...someone who was a victim in the past and is now out there to get the world. My advice to you, go through a seller's history, it doesn't matter what his rating is...if you see a few extreme feedbacks like that....stay away! Those so called power sellers tend to have poor customer service because they feel they have enough positive ratings to neglect their customers.


Geoffrey

Burnaby,
British Columbia,
Canada
Did not follow terms of listing, and is clearly

#29UPDATE Employee

Thu, March 22, 2007

I'm gBayemporium. I have a feedback score of over 4000 on over 5500 transactions, with many repeat happy customers. In all my time on eBay only 12 members have left negative feedback, and for the most part it's because I refuse to play their games. 99.7% feedback is excellent in any books. So this Tyler fellow wins my listing, which has a payment within 24 hours stipulation as well as a Paypal only for payment stipulation. Nothing happens after sending an invoice. Nothing happens after second invoice. So, as it's just prior to Xmas and I want to get paid, I send a third invoice telling him that unless he pays immediately, I will be re-listing the item. This is now 2 days after he won it. He had no intention to pay on time, or by Paypal. I relisted the item and sold it immediately, and got paid immediately. He never intended to pay on time, and didn't have an active Paypal account. All he could do was whine and moan about all his troubles, but quite frankly I don't have time for that. All a buyer has to do prior to bidding is to read the terms of the listing. If they don't like them, then don't bid. As for his suspension, I do believe it's the other way around. eBay doesn't want members like this, as they create a bad marketplace for honest buyers and sellers. eBay is done with him, and good riddance.

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