Vicki
Brigham City,#2Consumer Comment
Fri, August 18, 2006
I don't care how much these people have supposedly turned their lives around, once is enough. Look at all the innocent children being raped and murdered by convicted child molesters that supposedly were reformed? I agree with Melissa, there should never be a second chance. No one can accuse me of being angry and vengeful because it has never happened to me. I am just tired of hearing about these poor women and children that have been hurt, etc by some psycho that is such a poor excuse as a man that he has to take it out on someone he feels he can easily over power. They don't change, they are inherently evil. I say to hell with the criminals rights, it's time to give the rights back to the victims. Vicki
Jordyn
Frederick,#3REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
Thank You, Melissa, Norma, Brenda, Amber, Jim, and Kristiana. Are these people real? An abuser that deserves a second chance, PLEASE! You saw what happen to the little sister and brother in the mid-west(i don't wanna use their names). That PERVERTED MONSTER JOSEPH DUNCAN, he was a repeat offender. It's a shame, the courts obviously feel the same as you do. They allow these freaks a second chance and these monsters get out to inflict pain amongst our innocent kids. I don't think so! Let these monsters fry! Sexual offenders should get just as much time as a murderer, with no parole. And let them explain to the devil about why they need a second chance. Keep up the good work. Like the old saying "It takes a village to raise a child."
Brenda
Coleridge,#4Consumer Comment
Mon, January 30, 2006
Leopards don't change their spots. It is a known fact child molesters/abusers never stop. There is no cure, and they should never get a second chance. Anyone who lets a man back into the family after he has abused his children should herself have her children removed from her care, as it is obvious she places their welfare below her relationship with the abuser.
Amber
Denver,#5Consumer Comment
Sun, January 29, 2006
I think a person needs to forgive their abuser in order to move on and heal. But you owe it to your kids to keep them OUT of harms way and not put them in a position where the abuser may or may not abuse again. It's just plain stupid to take that kind of a risk with children. "We have become a society that condemns even though we preach forgiveness. I have read studies that show people who have committed crimes MAY commit them again but not because it's their desire but because society is unwilling to give them a chance to prove themselves. The first time a person commits a crime, it's their fault. If they commit again, it's a "high probability" that it is the community's fault." -Jolene Are you on crack? Every person has CHOICES. I'm sure the community isn't physically forcing the abusers to abuse again, so it's not the community's fault. The fisrt time a person commits a crime, it's their fault, if they commit again, it's still their fault. By the way, I'm not an angry abuse victim. I've never been abused. I am just someone who is sick and tired of seeing abuse vitcims make stupid choices(such as letting an abuser back into their lives) that their kids have payed dearly for. When you have kids, their well being should be your top priority, and therefore you should do every and anything you can to keep them out of harms way. I support the person who wrote the message in the first place. Being a mother I too would want to know which neighbors to watch out for. It's not like I'd treat the person like a criminal, I just wouldn't leave my child unattended with them.
Jim
Denver,#6Consumer Comment
Fri, January 27, 2006
I am a victim of child abuse and I would have to agree with Melissa and Kristiana that child abusers should lose all rights when convicted. There is no way a victim could ever retrieve what was lost, so the perpetrator should experience what would be the most similar. Murderers' victims are released from any suffering, while abuse victims have to live with what happened for the rest of their lives. It amazes me that these offenders are let back into society so quickly. It seems like our judicial system could use a little "revamping."
Kristiana
W. Springfield,#7Consumer Comment
Sat, July 06, 2002
Let everyone know who the sick people are. Please do. I don't care if you're a survivor or not. Everyone has the right to know what type of people are around their children. I am so sick and tired of offenders being forgiven. People say that they made a mistake and they should be forgiven. People act like the victims are the offenders when the victims hold hostility and resentment towards any one who is an offender. Everyone acts like offenders have it so hard. They paid their debt to society. Bullcrap! Offenders are given a sentence of a certain period of time and then they are forgiven. victims aren't given a sentence in which they can heal. Some victims suffer the rest of their lives. I believe everyone has the right to know who is around their children and I think it should be a law if it isn't. Please post anything you can about an offender. You're not being angry or resentful. You're being a protector of the innocent. You're a hero. If the offender didn't want anyone to know, they shouldn't have done what they did.
Norma
Trinity,#8Consumer Comment
Mon, April 15, 2002
I disagree on the fact that we should give child molestors/abusers a second change.
I am a child abuse
Norma
Trinity,#9Consumer Comment
Mon, April 15, 2002
I disagree on the fact that we should give child molestors/abusers a second change.
I am a child abuse
Jolene
O'Fallon,#10Consumer Comment
Sat, March 30, 2002
Kudos to Terri!! She appears to have a very healthy attitude and level of forgiveness that I wish could infect the population. I'm a LCSW who has dealt with men who have committed violent crimes and, through treatment, have overcome whatever caused them to act the way they did. Now, I'm not saying that all of them reacted positively to treatment, but the one's that did deserve a chance to show the community they are not the same person that committed the acts of their past. We have become a society that condemns even though we preach forgiveness. I have read studies that show people who have committed crimes MAY commit them again but not because it's their desire but because society is unwilling to give them a chance to prove themselves. The first time a person commits a crime, it's their fault. If they commit again, it's a "high probability" that it is the community's fault.
Terri
Trujillo,#11Consumer Comment
Fri, March 29, 2002
I'm not here to start a mud-slinging campaign. I'm proud of you, Melissa, for taking an active role in what you believe in. I work with Catholic Services myself to reach out to those who have suffered from similar, if not identical, circumstances as me. It pains me to hear the hurt and anger you have, and if there was anything I could to to help you I would. We have our different opinions and that's what makes this country wonderful-the freedom to express them. Y ou mentioned the person that hurt you and your family had priors, but you saw past that and gave him a chance in your life anyway. I'm doing the same and hoping for better results. You also mentioned "high probability". I take that as NOT 100%. So there IS a chance this may not happen again, right? I believe in turning the other cheek and taking that chance FOR my kids sake. I'm sure you'll have comments for what I've said here, but as for me, I've spoken my peace and don't intend to revisit this posting. I wish you all the love Father God can give and I will light a candle for you.
melissa
saint louis,#12Consumer Comment
Thu, March 28, 2002
You got issues if you let an abuser back in your life again. Someone that harms you doesn't respect you. And, space cadet, people that victimize others have a very high probability (proven by statistics) that they will victimize again. If you cannot stand on your own two feet without the abuser, then you need to get additional help. Let's see, if someone murdered your sister and tried to kill her minor children, an idiot like you would probably forgive him and let him hang around your kids. I however, was a survivor of that sort of attack and I don't think that he should be allowed anywhere near the general population again. I say alert the media. Pass out flyers. You may not care that the abuser/killer/rapist is out again, but other people care. I have lived my life as an orphan. I chose to rise above these circumstances to get an education and have a good rewarding career in spite of having nothing to go on. I'm not an angry person, but I am a victim's advocate. I do see something seriously wrong with a world where the perp's rights are more important than the victim's rights. If that makes you see me as angry, then that's your problem. Your opinion is not important to me What's important to me is that you are going right back into the cycle. Anybody can act good and behave, but after a while, that charade falls apart. Next time, you may end up dead. I go to church, I pray, people say I'm one of the nicest people they know and that I have a great personality. But I'm not a doormat and I don't think I should sacrifice myself for anyone unless they've given me a reason to trust them. I don't trust people who sexually abuse children and I don't trust people who rape and kill. I don't trust anyone to take my life under their control again. God is the only one I answer to and he is the only one that has control. I feel my calling in life is to speak up for people that don't feel empowered to speak for themselves. I use my pain to help others. What do you do with yours? Without people like me, child molestation and rape would be okay. If someone didn't speak up and recognize the wrongs in society, these things would be quite legal and accepted as they are in other countries. I've given myself things I was never given by the adults in my life. They were trusted to care for me and they did not. If I did not have my faith I would not be here. I give my daughter a sense of love, self-confidence self-respect and self worth. I do not date because I don't want her to feel a woman's only use is to be here for men's reasons only. She knows plenty of positive male role models and plenty of female role models, including myself. I've taught her that sometimes you have to stand up for yourself. She also knows that she doesn't have to tolerate bad treatment from anyone. I'm teaching my child things I wasn't taught. Kids have rights. You victimize kids, you lose your rights. The man that victimized me and my mother and my sister had priors for murder and for assault. I'm sure the people that let him out for good behavior the first time thought along the same lines you do. Maybe you want a killer living next door to your kids and maybe you wouldn't mind a child molester babysitting your children. You got help? I think not. I have had counseling and I volunteer for CASA (court appointed special advocates). I also spend time working with my local advocacy office to make sure he doesn't get out again. I have a petetion on petition's online. I also reach out to those I know who have been victimized. I am no longer a victim. I am a survivor.
melissa
saint louis,#13Consumer Comment
Thu, March 28, 2002
You got issues if you let an abuser back in your life again. Someone that harms you doesn't respect you. And, space cadet, people that victimize others have a very high probability (proven by statistics) that they will victimize again. If you cannot stand on your own two feet without the abuser, then you need to get additional help. Let's see, if someone murdered your sister and tried to kill her minor children, an idiot like you would probably forgive him and let him hang around your kids. I however, was a survivor of that sort of attack and I don't think that he should be allowed anywhere near the general population again. I say alert the media. Pass out flyers. You may not care that the abuser/killer/rapist is out again, but other people care. I have lived my life as an orphan. I chose to rise above these circumstances to get an education and have a good rewarding career in spite of having nothing to go on. I'm not an angry person, but I am a victim's advocate. I do see something seriously wrong with a world where the perp's rights are more important than the victim's rights. If that makes you see me as angry, then that's your problem. Your opinion is not important to me What's important to me is that you are going right back into the cycle. Anybody can act good and behave, but after a while, that charade falls apart. Next time, you may end up dead. I go to church, I pray, people say I'm one of the nicest people they know and that I have a great personality. But I'm not a doormat and I don't think I should sacrifice myself for anyone unless they've given me a reason to trust them. I don't trust people who sexually abuse children and I don't trust people who rape and kill. I don't trust anyone to take my life under their control again. God is the only one I answer to and he is the only one that has control. I feel my calling in life is to speak up for people that don't feel empowered to speak for themselves. I use my pain to help others. What do you do with yours? Without people like me, child molestation and rape would be okay. If someone didn't speak up and recognize the wrongs in society, these things would be quite legal and accepted as they are in other countries. I've given myself things I was never given by the adults in my life. They were trusted to care for me and they did not. If I did not have my faith I would not be here. I give my daughter a sense of love, self-confidence self-respect and self worth. I do not date because I don't want her to feel a woman's only use is to be here for men's reasons only. She knows plenty of positive male role models and plenty of female role models, including myself. I've taught her that sometimes you have to stand up for yourself. She also knows that she doesn't have to tolerate bad treatment from anyone. I'm teaching my child things I wasn't taught. Kids have rights. You victimize kids, you lose your rights. The man that victimized me and my mother and my sister had priors for murder and for assault. I'm sure the people that let him out for good behavior the first time thought along the same lines you do. Maybe you want a killer living next door to your kids and maybe you wouldn't mind a child molester babysitting your children. You got help? I think not. I have had counseling and I volunteer for CASA (court appointed special advocates). I also spend time working with my local advocacy office to make sure he doesn't get out again. I have a petetion on petition's online. I also reach out to those I know who have been victimized. I am no longer a victim. I am a survivor.
melissa
saint louis,#14Consumer Comment
Thu, March 28, 2002
You got issues if you let an abuser back in your life again. Someone that harms you doesn't respect you. And, space cadet, people that victimize others have a very high probability (proven by statistics) that they will victimize again. If you cannot stand on your own two feet without the abuser, then you need to get additional help. Let's see, if someone murdered your sister and tried to kill her minor children, an idiot like you would probably forgive him and let him hang around your kids. I however, was a survivor of that sort of attack and I don't think that he should be allowed anywhere near the general population again. I say alert the media. Pass out flyers. You may not care that the abuser/killer/rapist is out again, but other people care. I have lived my life as an orphan. I chose to rise above these circumstances to get an education and have a good rewarding career in spite of having nothing to go on. I'm not an angry person, but I am a victim's advocate. I do see something seriously wrong with a world where the perp's rights are more important than the victim's rights. If that makes you see me as angry, then that's your problem. Your opinion is not important to me What's important to me is that you are going right back into the cycle. Anybody can act good and behave, but after a while, that charade falls apart. Next time, you may end up dead. I go to church, I pray, people say I'm one of the nicest people they know and that I have a great personality. But I'm not a doormat and I don't think I should sacrifice myself for anyone unless they've given me a reason to trust them. I don't trust people who sexually abuse children and I don't trust people who rape and kill. I don't trust anyone to take my life under their control again. God is the only one I answer to and he is the only one that has control. I feel my calling in life is to speak up for people that don't feel empowered to speak for themselves. I use my pain to help others. What do you do with yours? Without people like me, child molestation and rape would be okay. If someone didn't speak up and recognize the wrongs in society, these things would be quite legal and accepted as they are in other countries. I've given myself things I was never given by the adults in my life. They were trusted to care for me and they did not. If I did not have my faith I would not be here. I give my daughter a sense of love, self-confidence self-respect and self worth. I do not date because I don't want her to feel a woman's only use is to be here for men's reasons only. She knows plenty of positive male role models and plenty of female role models, including myself. I've taught her that sometimes you have to stand up for yourself. She also knows that she doesn't have to tolerate bad treatment from anyone. I'm teaching my child things I wasn't taught. Kids have rights. You victimize kids, you lose your rights. The man that victimized me and my mother and my sister had priors for murder and for assault. I'm sure the people that let him out for good behavior the first time thought along the same lines you do. Maybe you want a killer living next door to your kids and maybe you wouldn't mind a child molester babysitting your children. You got help? I think not. I have had counseling and I volunteer for CASA (court appointed special advocates). I also spend time working with my local advocacy office to make sure he doesn't get out again. I have a petetion on petition's online. I also reach out to those I know who have been victimized. I am no longer a victim. I am a survivor.
melissa
saint louis,#15Consumer Comment
Thu, March 28, 2002
You got issues if you let an abuser back in your life again. Someone that harms you doesn't respect you. And, space cadet, people that victimize others have a very high probability (proven by statistics) that they will victimize again. If you cannot stand on your own two feet without the abuser, then you need to get additional help. Let's see, if someone murdered your sister and tried to kill her minor children, an idiot like you would probably forgive him and let him hang around your kids. I however, was a survivor of that sort of attack and I don't think that he should be allowed anywhere near the general population again. I say alert the media. Pass out flyers. You may not care that the abuser/killer/rapist is out again, but other people care. I have lived my life as an orphan. I chose to rise above these circumstances to get an education and have a good rewarding career in spite of having nothing to go on. I'm not an angry person, but I am a victim's advocate. I do see something seriously wrong with a world where the perp's rights are more important than the victim's rights. If that makes you see me as angry, then that's your problem. Your opinion is not important to me What's important to me is that you are going right back into the cycle. Anybody can act good and behave, but after a while, that charade falls apart. Next time, you may end up dead. I go to church, I pray, people say I'm one of the nicest people they know and that I have a great personality. But I'm not a doormat and I don't think I should sacrifice myself for anyone unless they've given me a reason to trust them. I don't trust people who sexually abuse children and I don't trust people who rape and kill. I don't trust anyone to take my life under their control again. God is the only one I answer to and he is the only one that has control. I feel my calling in life is to speak up for people that don't feel empowered to speak for themselves. I use my pain to help others. What do you do with yours? Without people like me, child molestation and rape would be okay. If someone didn't speak up and recognize the wrongs in society, these things would be quite legal and accepted as they are in other countries. I've given myself things I was never given by the adults in my life. They were trusted to care for me and they did not. If I did not have my faith I would not be here. I give my daughter a sense of love, self-confidence self-respect and self worth. I do not date because I don't want her to feel a woman's only use is to be here for men's reasons only. She knows plenty of positive male role models and plenty of female role models, including myself. I've taught her that sometimes you have to stand up for yourself. She also knows that she doesn't have to tolerate bad treatment from anyone. I'm teaching my child things I wasn't taught. Kids have rights. You victimize kids, you lose your rights. The man that victimized me and my mother and my sister had priors for murder and for assault. I'm sure the people that let him out for good behavior the first time thought along the same lines you do. Maybe you want a killer living next door to your kids and maybe you wouldn't mind a child molester babysitting your children. You got help? I think not. I have had counseling and I volunteer for CASA (court appointed special advocates). I also spend time working with my local advocacy office to make sure he doesn't get out again. I have a petetion on petition's online. I also reach out to those I know who have been victimized. I am no longer a victim. I am a survivor.
Terri
Trujillo,#16Consumer Comment
Wed, March 20, 2002
As Melissa, I too am a woman who suffered attacks from a loved one as did my 3 children. But that's where the similarities end!! As a victim, I chose to seek professional help and obtain the same for my kids to help us heal and move on with our lives instead of letting the rage fester inside and continually affect our lives. The individual who harmed us has become a part of our lives again after two-and-a-half years of work, however we still have a ways to go. I must admit I get nervous leaving the kids with him, but I know it's something that must be done for progress to be made. I did think at one time that the public should be told of the monster I discovered, however, I now realize that action would have done nothing more than made me feel good at that time. The fact of the matter is that it would have done more harm than good in the long run for all involved. Melissa is right that this is a sad world, but it's people like her that keep it that way by not letting people who err make amends to those they affected.
melissa
saint louis,#17Consumer Comment
Fri, March 15, 2002
As a woman who suffered a vicious knife attack as a child and was abused later by a family member, I care little for the perp's feelings. I say, "no hold's barred". I say, "tell the whole world what an animal he is." This may protect people from him in the future. What if it was your kids, nieces and nephews? When you harm a child you should lose all of your rights. I don't care if you've repayed your debt to society because you can never repay what that child has lost. You should be monitered and all of your neighbors should know that you are a perverted, sick bully who can only hurt kids because they can't take up for themselves. Then they can make the choice of keeping their kids away from you, instead of trusting you, who has proven they cannot be trusted anyway. There is no perfect platform for this information, but I agree with the person that wrote about ole creepy. Write about him everywhere, every opportunity, tell everyone. He lost his rights when he decided to shake an helpless infant and abuse the kids. What a loser. By the way, MY attacker has come up for parole. I myself not only raise hell in every arena (internet, petitions, talking to people in genera, speaking with police, etc) but I've also volunteered for CASA (court appointed special advocates). It's sad that people wanto blame the victim instead of force the abuser to be responsible for their behavior. What a sad sad world.
Wendell
Birmingham,#18Consumer Comment
Wed, February 27, 2002
It seems Mark has made mistakes and will pay for them for the rest of his life. They say the first step in getting and receiving help is to admit there is a problem. This man has done just that, and has been actively involved in rehabilitation. He has also been building a relationship with his kids to the point where they recognize him as Daddy. The person who posted the original message may be better off getting "counseling" for their anger instead of venting their frustrations on the web. If you had any compassion for these children, you would prefer to keep their lives private instead of wasting your energy slandering this man all over the web. Maybe this is not a proper forum for this discussion. This is for consumers who paid for a service and got ripped off. Maybe you should be advocating for children in your state, try looking up a referral agency for such an organization.