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  • Report:  #78998

Complaint Review: NWC (National Wholesale Company) - Haverhill, Massachusetts

Reported By:
- Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts,
Submitted:
Updated:

NWC (National Wholesale Company)
26 ParkRidge Road Haverhill,, 01835 Massachusetts, U.S.A.
Phone:
978-556-0800
Web:
N/A
Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
This company is undoubtedly pulling scams on people, including me on a refund that is past due me

On 6/03/03, I joined NWC, Inc., a company that sells consumer electronics and office supplies at wholesale prices. This came with 90-day guarantee that if I couldn't sell any of their merchandise, pending proof of my efforts, I would get a refund. Once a representative emailed me price information on hot products I was interested in marketing, I attempted five eBay auctions for these items, selling at about the listing prices, (plus selling costs). None of these items sold. I even got complaints from eBay bidders stating the prices were way too high, and that other distributors were selling the same items at lower prices than NWC. Concerned about this, I had asked Bob, one of the company representatives via phone and email, if their wholesale prices were correct. He said they were.

Having no luck with selling anything from this company, I called and requested a refund. I was instructed to send back all my selling supplies, (manuals, papers, etc.), along with print outs of the eBay auctions to verify my selling effort as required by their refund policy. I printed them out in their entirety, placed them on top of the supplies in the mailing box, and sent the materials back to them on 8/19/2003. Since then, I did not get a refund, or any response from the company.

On 9/7/03, seeing I still haven't received a refund, I called the company again to request a refund. The representative, Don, I spoke to couldn't tell me what was going on with my return, but acknowledged that I was entitled to a refund. He said he had to ask the customer service rep, Susanne, about the return, and said he would call me back with an answer. When he did so later that afternoon, he stated the eBay auctions were not included in the package.

I assured him I included them and they were placed at the top of the supplies, along with my note requesting a refund, but he still had no idea about this, and couldn't locate these returned papers. He then asked if I could email the auction numbers to him and the customer service rep, which I promptly did. Later that evening, I was shocked and outraged to get an email from customer support, (with no name from whom), stating I wasn't entitled to a refund because I did not include pictures in the auctions!

They stated my auctions were looked at and none of the pictures showed up for any of them, when in fact they were exhibited in the product description! The company continues to deny that I have done this one of their feeble, made-up fibs to not refund my money.

On 9/12/03, I called the company and talked to Bob about this dispute. He expressed concern about the no pictures story and said he would look into it. He said he would get back to me regarding this matter. He failed to do so.

Finally, on 9/15/03, I sent my final email to Bob asking about the refund expecting an answer. Instead, I get an email from Suzanne saying I had priced my items too high, and because of this, their decision about not refunding me was final. And the only way, (now AFTER they told me to send everything back to them), is to pay more money to have it shipped back to me. Hard to believe this company is organized and knows what the hell they are doing.

Whatever the company's wholesales prices were on their merchandise, (and there was more than one list of prices to follow), I have compared these prices with other competitors and found the competition's prices to be much lower. This is preciously why I wanted to cancel membership with NWC, Inc. and get a refund.

At this point, I feel I have made a continued effort to resolve this matter, which was not being handled properly by this company. I feel cheated, extremely dissatisfied, and they way they handled me was outrageous!

I filed a complaint with the Massachusetts Attorney General, and am awaiting a response from both parties. I will not rest, until something is doing about this

Ben

Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts
U.S.A.


3 Updates & Rebuttals

Ben

Jamaica Plain,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
Final Word Regard This Matter...

#2Author of original report

Sat, January 29, 2005

After dealing with the mediator from the office of the Massachusetts Attorney General regarding this complaint, here's the final word: First, the company, once again, denied my including pictures in the auctions I made on eBay, and that I didn't follow their rules. Once the mediator informed me about this, I again mailed her printouts of those auctions, and more documentation to support my claim. Second, when the mediator returned my call, I was informed that the company offered to send me free of charge all the materials so I could try again - the shipping costs would be waived. I COULDN'T BELIEVE after all that has happened, they expected to drag me further into their unfounded ways. I laughed at that one! A couple weeks later, the mediator informed me she talked to Suzanne about my color printouts of the auctions with pictures, and offered to send them to her. Once she told Suzanne this, Suzanne said she needed to go and talk to somebody about this BUSTED!!! It may have taken mentioning that physical evidence, but after about 2 weeks later, the company offered to refund me half my initial investment, and that was their final offer. I have accepted this half-refund as acceptable closure, as did Don in the other complaint with the company. I also accepted the loss as my failure to check out a company's credibility before signing up with them. The check was received and cashed for the agreed-upon amount, so as far as I'm concerned, this matter is now over and satisfactory justice has prevailed. Thank you Rip-Off Report for allowing this story to be shared.


Ben

Jamaica Plain,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
Company Is Delivering Unsubstantiated Information With Intent To Create Division And Conflict.

#3Author of original report

Sat, January 29, 2005

This incident is legitimate, (NOT unfounded and isolated), and complies fully with what had happened. They have just made my point again of this company's dishonesty I HAVE included pictures with those auctions, which I printed out in their entirety, and filed with my claim. My ONLY mistake was not resorting to a court battle sooner, during which time the auctions could still be viewed online, which would prove they lied. Everything was done accordingly with the pictures, yet they continue to deny that I have done so. Hence, my complaint. To quote from the email they sent me: (also included with the claim) I am sorry to inform you but these auctions do not qualify under our guarantee for a refund. Our guarantee states you must use a picture in the auction and when these auctions were checked, the picture does not come up, for any of them. support. No, they DID NOT make any offer for reapplying for a refund a second time; they only left me hanging. It was when I emailed a second time, I got this one from a Suzanne: If you wish to have us re-ship out your package, so that you can try again, just let me know if you would like to use the same credit card on file for the $12 shipping fee. First I was lied to, now I was the one who was expected to pay more money for shipping in order to try again, after their representative, Don, told me to ship everything back. What's wrong with THIS picture??? POINT OF CLARIFICATION I refused to invest more money to these idiots that were expecting me to pay for THEIR shipping costs, after I was told to send everything back to them as I pointed out above. What kind of guidelines are these???????? No problem, I wasn't planning to do business with these scam-artists ever again. However, I didn't close MY case and account with them. I resorted to the Mass. A.G. to seek justice with this matter. Next time, I will have to check the Better Business Bureau before signing up with another company, and make sure they don't have an UNSATISFACTORY record due to a LARGE pattern of complaints - like NWC, Inc. of Methune, Massachusetts does! Let them say all they want to about this, it's STILL unsatisfactory, with substantial reason for it!


James - CEO

Haverhill,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
unfounded complaint and a very isolated incident with our company

#4REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, May 17, 2004

Our policy regarding how to obtain a refund during the first 90 days is very clear and is posted on our web site and mailed to the customer. This customer was told he did not follow the instructions about posting a picture of each item he listed for auction. We explained this to him and told him he could relist the products with a picture and that if he did so, he could reapply for a refund if he did not sell the items, as promised in our guarantee. He choose not to and instead threatened us and said he would rather report us to everyone and try to ruin our reputation. At that point, we closed his case and account with us and have responded to each of his complaints he has filed with various agencies and sites like this. He clearly did not want to follow our guidelines and even when given the chance to redo his auctions per our guideline, he refused. This is an unfounded complaint and a very isolated incident with our company.

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