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  • Report:  #64484

Complaint Review: Surf Academy - Hermosa Beach California

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- Los Angeles, California,
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Surf Academy
302 19th St. Hermosa Beach, 90254 California, U.S.A.
Phone:
310-372-2790
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I enrolled myself and a friend in a surf class through Surf Academy (www.surfacademy.org) and on the day of the class I called to confirm the classes since I did not recieve anything in the mail.

I called and they said that the class I signed up for did not exist and only my friend was signed up (though they had deposited my check and had never called to notify me of the discrepency). I asked for a refund for my class and decided to take my friend to his class. I called again for specific directions and they were unable to give me any, instead they said to enter "Pratte's Reef" into mapblast, which I got an error.

I decided to go to the general area and look for the class myself, since the office was of little help. I went and I could not locate the class, so I called the office and asked for a lifeguard tower number, she didn't know and told me to go in front of the power plant. I did and I saw a surf camp, I asked them if they were the ones and they weren't.

I called the office again, and the person could not give me any other directions other than in front of the powere plant, by this time we were about an hour late. I had walked up and down the beach and could not locate the class, instead I asked for a full refund. She said I would have to talk to Mary Setterholm, the owner, who was not available beacuse she was in a class.

I left 10 messages and emails for her, and the office manager said the best thing to do was keep leaving messages. I finally got a response about 3 weeks later via email, and Mary said that she thought I was her daughter asking for money and was completely unaware of the situation. I emailed her back explaining the situation and I never heard from her again.

I called the office and they said that they could credit my credit card, and it has been a week and I have not seen a credit to my account. I wonder why they didn't offer this as a solution initially.

It has been a month since this whole thing happened, and I have not even spoken to Mary, the owner. This company is flakey and unresponsive, and sort of complications and they don't care. But they were quick in depositing my check!

Y

Santa Monica, California
U.S.A.


6 Updates & Rebuttals

Mary Setterholm

NY,
New York,
United States of America
This complaint is too confusing to sort out, examine carefully.

#2REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sat, October 31, 2009

Bottom line, I wish she could have surfed! If I had seen her I'd have suited her up in a wetsuit, handed her a surfboard, and calmed her down plus picked the best waves to get her hooked and we could have let all this go. Very sorry for the confusion she experienced. Please read my understanding of the post:

"I enrolled myself and a friend in a surf class through surf Academy"
Fine, sounds solid.
"they said the class I signed up for did not exist"
Question: how does one sign up for a class that does not exist?
Well, did we cancel it and not tell her? Lets read on...
"Only my friend was signed up"
Now, I am confused. So, her friend was able to sign up and get on a roster for a class that did not exist, but not her. At least we know the class that "did not exist" was not canceled.
we offer refunds, no problem. But she is going to this class and she might get in to a class that does not exist if she can find it, with her friend who got in.
I admit directions are a challenge for a surf spot that has no address and we posted a detailed map on our site to help students. She calls wanting directions and says we told her to go to "mapblast" which I googled and that does not exist. I also don't think we had cell phones then that could have done that then but if she had a GPS in her car it would not have mattered. There was no address, hence the map on our website.
She states she found the power plant and I know we were there that day and I was teaching the only class of the day she was looking for "that did not exist" but her fiend was enrolled in. I was exactly where you'd want me to be, I think, as an owner of a surf school: not in an office giving directions to the class.
We had 50 surfboards there and students everywhere in colored jerseys. We have canopy tents with banners, yet someone she talked to said we were not there? Surf Academy was the only permitted surf school within a half mile of the jetty in front of the power plant. I feel for her confusion. I am confused as well. If we can help students like her get to class without confusion, we will be an even better surf school.

Now, it is true that I have many children and as late teens they get their hands out for money and I'd rather see them earn it first. The student's name was the name of one daughter asking me often by phone and I have others taking messages and all I got was "R&%^#" wants you to call her about money" I figured she already knew my answer!

Well, you can't win with everyone when you teach thousands to surf every summer. We do our best as a surf school. This is an administrative bungle of comedic dimensions and I sure would have loved to do for her what we do best: teach surfing. I tried to post this years ago and it did not "stick" but I think it is important to know there are two sides.

Peace and get Wet!
Mary





Mary Setterholm

NY,
New York,
United States of America
This complaint is too confusing to sort out, examine carefully.

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sat, October 31, 2009

Bottome line, I wish she could have surfed! If I had seen her I'd have suited her up in a wetsuit, handed her a surfboard, and calmed her down plus picked the best waves to get her hooked and we could have let all this go. Very soory for the confusion she experienced. Please read my understanding of the post:

"I enrolled myself and a friend in a surf class through surf Academy"
Fine, sounds solid.
"they said the class I signed up for did not exist"
Question: how does one sign up for a class that does not exist?
Well, did we cancel it and not tell her? Lets read on...
"Only my friend was signed up"
Now, I am confused. So, her friend was able to sign up and get on a roster for a class that did not exist, but not her. At least we know the class that "did not exist" was not canceled.
we offer refunds, no problem. But she is going to this class and she might get in to a class that does not exist if she can find it, with her friend who got in.
I admit directions are a challenge for a surf spot that has no address and we posted a detailed map on our site to help students. She calls wanting directions and says we told her to go to "mapblast" which I googled and that does not exist. I also don't think we had cell phones then that could have done that then but if she had a GPS in her car it would not have mattered. There was no address, hence the map on our website.
She states she found the power plant and I know we were there that day and I was teaching the only class of the day she was looking for "that did not exist" but her fiend was enrolled in. I was exactly where you'd want me to be, I think, as an owner of a surf school: not in an office giving directions to the class.
We had 50 surfboards there and students everywhere in colored jerseys. We have canopy tents with banners, yet someone she talked to said we were not there? Surf Academy was the only permitted surf school within a half mile of the jetty in front of the power plant. I feel for her confusion. I am confused as well. If we can help students like her get to class without confusion, we will be an even better surf school.

Now, it is true that I have many children and as late teens they get their hands out for money and I'd rather see them earn it first. The student's name was the name of one daughter asking me often by phone and I have others taking messages and all I got was "R&%^#" wants you to call her about money" I figured she already knew my answer!

Well, you can't win with everyone when you help teach thousands every summer. I tried to post this years ago and it did not "stick" but I think it is important to know there are two sides.

Peace and get Wet!
Mary





Ophelia

Ny,
New York,
U.S.A.
I am one of Mary's daughter's: It was probly an honest mistake

#4UPDATE Employee

Tue, May 31, 2005

I am one of Mary Setterholm's five children, I also used to work for my mom at surf academy. I read the complaint, and I believe it, but I know that the company doesn't work that way. The company is not a business in the traditional sense; it is not driven by desire for monetary gain. It sounds like a screw-up, but that is not indicative of what Surf Academy and my mother stand for, or are out to accomplish.


Ophelia

Ny,
New York,
U.S.A.
I am one of Mary's daughter's: It was probly an honest mistake

#5UPDATE Employee

Tue, May 31, 2005

I am one of Mary Setterholm's five children, I also used to work for my mom at surf academy. I read the complaint, and I believe it, but I know that the company doesn't work that way. The company is not a business in the traditional sense; it is not driven by desire for monetary gain. It sounds like a screw-up, but that is not indicative of what Surf Academy and my mother stand for, or are out to accomplish.


Ophelia

Ny,
New York,
U.S.A.
I am one of Mary's daughter's: It was probly an honest mistake

#6UPDATE Employee

Tue, May 31, 2005

I am one of Mary Setterholm's five children, I also used to work for my mom at surf academy. I read the complaint, and I believe it, but I know that the company doesn't work that way. The company is not a business in the traditional sense; it is not driven by desire for monetary gain. It sounds like a screw-up, but that is not indicative of what Surf Academy and my mother stand for, or are out to accomplish.


Ophelia

Ny,
New York,
U.S.A.
I am one of Mary's daughter's: It was probly an honest mistake

#7UPDATE Employee

Tue, May 31, 2005

I am one of Mary Setterholm's five children, I also used to work for my mom at surf academy. I read the complaint, and I believe it, but I know that the company doesn't work that way. The company is not a business in the traditional sense; it is not driven by desire for monetary gain. It sounds like a screw-up, but that is not indicative of what Surf Academy and my mother stand for, or are out to accomplish.

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