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Prescott,#2Author of original report
Wed, December 12, 2012
After much consideration and research, I, as the author of the original report, do hereby remove the name of Kathleen (Kate Durso) from this report. I did not have any direct or indirect dealings with the person named above involving the transaction of the two horses.
Tennessee
Tennessee,#3Consumer Comment
Sun, December 09, 2012
This is Kathleen Durso. I am filing this rebuttal in defense to my name. Which is listed within the content of this report. I as well, have contacted the author of this report by email on 12/9/12. Requesting they make the necessary changes to this post. And clear my name from this entire matter. If it is not addressed, and corrected in a timely manner. I am contacting my attorney for further legal action against this author. As my full legal name is now included within this content, as being a liar, scammer, horse trader, and unscrupulous.
In a matter of which I had absolutely no involvement whatsoever. Nor did I ever have any dealing, of horse sales, neither personally, or verbally with this author. Nor, was I ever involved in, either personally, or verbally, with any other authors of complaints on this board for the sale of horses, against Angela Jones, Angela Lawson, Tanner Smith, Eugene, Lynn XX, Tiffany, Joey Lawson, Joe Lawson, or Carolyn Smith. And I will retain my legal rights to have my name corrected from this report, with whatever it takes.
To set the record straight, I am not, nor have I ever been affiliated with any sale or sales of horses sold to these authors, by Angela Jones, Tanner Smith, Angela Lawson, Lynn XX, Eugene, Joe, Joey Lawson, Tiffany, nor Carolyn Smith. Nor did I involve in the sale of any horse/horses with any, or all of these persons, listed within this content.
I have never sold a horse to anyone that has ever filed a complaint. It appears that my name has been brought into this matter, due to Angela Lawson making, and accepting phone calls to sell horses, by using a cell phone which was in my name. I helped Mrs. Lawson with a cell phone when her family had no telephone. There are children in the home, and I felt bad for the family.
The telephone number for the record is: 615-663-0323. Which has since been disconnected per my request to my cell carrier, as of 12/9/12. Of all the other listed numbers in this content. There are no other phone contact numbers that pertain to me.
Lastly, to the author of this report. I regret that you had a bad situation, with Mrs. Lawson on the sale of your horses. And if calls were made to you to by the use of the cell phone which was on my carrier. I clearly understand your error, by posting my name. However, as for me, you have literally slandered my name to the public, within this content. When in fact, I have never had any dealing with you, neither personally, nor verbally regarding the purchase, or sale of your horses. I have sent you an email this morning. I have also provided you with my phone contact, to further discuss this matter. As well as requesting, that you to clear my name from this entire matter. I will allow ample time for you to make the necessary corrections within this content. As I clearly know reports on this board, cannot be completely removed. I am confident that you will make the necessary corrections. And I am sure you clearly understand my concerns with my name having been included to this post. Thank you ~
Mona
Sleeman,#4Consumer Comment
Sun, December 09, 2012
You make many false statements, but you do make some truthful statements as well.
One true statement is that you are not all of those names...you ARE only your legal name, but you have most definitely used MANY aliases/names in the past!
Another truth, is that yes, there ARE MANY people in the past 10-15 years that have had complaints about their horses they bought from you...VALID complaints!
Another statement that may be true, is that you purchase from individuals as well as auctions, and all would be fine and good, IF they were all honesty represented by you in the ads! You are asked direct questions, and give direct lies as some of the answers! You have claimed to have personally owned them for certain periods of time when it is not true. You lie about their past, you lie about their training, you lie about their suitability of their use for beginners, timid riders, etc., and you lie about their health and/or condition. So yes, horses CAN be good whether they are purchased through a sale or individual, but the more important thing, is being TRUTHFUL with people, rather than PREYING on the innocent! It seems that you end up buying many of those "problem" auction horses and turning around and selling them as beginner safe riding horses for the child, timid, grandma or husband, all of which are terms for willing, well trainer, people oriented, dependable, trustworthy, reliable problem free horses! And yes, we know that horses are animals and they have minds of their own, but you also need to be responsible for the lies you tell to people in order to make the sales, so that you can fall back on that excuse you seem to provide all the time.
You mention the people that would not return their horses for refunds or exchange...what about the ones that tried? Where were you then? I know personally speaking, you sure wouldn't do it for me! Not once did you even attempt to resolve the situation and I most certainly DID notify you on many occassions!
I wrote the TRUTH about you and the horse that was sold to me on my web site. You tried bullying me into taking it down, calling it slanderous, but I only wrote the truth, and it was not slanderous. If you recall, you tried forcing me to remove it, threatening legal action for slander, but I fooled you, and I actually did contact an attorney and was totally within my legal rights to do what I did, when when I came back to you with that tidbit of information, I never heard from you again...you like to appear threatening, but it really does not matter to those of us that know our legal rights.
I see the many ads out there "outting" you, and I smile ear to ear, as I am so VERY HAPPY to see that there are honest, hardworking people out there that value the life of people enough to see that they are making an HONEST effort to try to STOP you and your tactics from killing someone! I am guessing and hoping that it is these ads that have caused you to stop selling the horses...not because you don;t want to deal with people like us anymore, but more because they are making others aware that you are a DISHONEST horsetrader/seller that cannot be trusted, and I am PROUD of the efforts of all those willing to step up to the plate and tell their stories publicly to aid in the battle to STOP you before you kill someone!! People that are reporting you are not treating or judging you unfairly!
Angela
wartrace,#5REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sun, December 09, 2012
1st I am not several of the names you say that I am. You among another few ladies have simply let your mind run away on alot of issues. I am NOT anyone other than myself and you have several names listed whom I am NOT as well as phone numbers who are NOT mine. You along with many many people in the last 10-15yrs have purchased from me and out of the hundreds of horses sold there are obviously going to be people who are not happy. Some would not return thier horses for refunds/exchanges and i couldnt help them if they didnt. Others never even let me know they had a problem, they just thought it best to write nasty and slanderous ads about me instead of trying to resolve the situation and notifying me. Now there are several of you ladies who insist on repeatedly writeing slanderous and harrassing write ups about me but you never seem to list the ENTIRE story. You leave out very important parts such as the horses who were picked up and taken to Arizona. I notified you befor you ever left that the necessary paperwork was not completed because I didnt have a pick up date for the horses and the health certificates only good for a short period of time. U notified me u were coming and i told u I would have it completed and ready and you took it upon yourself to come anyway. I called the sherrifs department where they told me to draw up a contract releasing me of all liability in regards to that paperwork and documentation and that you were advised it was not legal to transport those animals and you signed it assuming all responsibility. Those horses were perfect riding horses and had no issues while here. I have several videos of each horse to also prove it.
I have purchased horses from individuals, auctions and friends. There are many many wonderful horses who are bought and sold through auctions and to think otherwise is just silly. Many people have nowhere else to sell them and thats where they go. After all...thats why its a "horse auction". Yes there are problem horses who are auctioned but there are also many many wonderful horses who are bought and sold everyday through these auctions.
I no longer opperate as a business and have no desire to. However if I list a horse for someone else, or happen to ride a horse for someone it does not mean that horse is mine. Also, you seem to think every horse listed within 100 miles is MY horse...NOT TRUE. You are listing negative and slanderous remarks about people I dont know as well as people I do know and none of them are ME. You shouldnt jump to conclusions and steal other peoples photos and pass them off as being my horses when they are NOT.
Your stories are half told and dont include the ENTIRE contents simply because you want everyone to assume YOU are the victim. Sure they sound good when you post them...but its not the whole story.
People like you are the exact reason why I no longer wish to buy and sell to the public. I have no desire nor the time to waste on having to come to places like this to respond to childish/half truth stories and defend myself. People automaticly jump to conclusions and judge unfairly...
I am proud to say I am no longer in business and have to deal with people like you!
Everyone who purchaes a horse should keep in mind..
IF YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ANIMALS YOU PURCHASE THEN YOU SHOULDNT HAVE THEM. HORSES ARE ANIMALS AND HAVE THIER OWN MINDS. THEY ARE UNPREDICTABLE AND CAN NEVER BE FOREVER PREDICTED BY ANYONE. It is impossible for the seller to know the buyers skill level, abilities, knowledge of horses, or to know the circumstances and conditions in which the rider will place themselves and their horse in during any particular ride or event. If you can not accept those responsibilities then you should not buy from anyone!
I will not respond to anymore of these reports as I am done with everything and anything that pertains to a horse.
Tennessee
Tennessee,#6General Comment
Sun, December 09, 2012
You mention in your report to email you regarding this matter. However you did not list an email address. What is your email contact. Thank you