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  • Report:  #264455

Complaint Review: Bank Of America - Orlando Florida

Reported By:
- Altamonte Springs, Florida,
Submitted:
Updated:

Bank Of America
Any Where USA Orlando, 32808 Florida, U.S.A.
Phone:
800-4321000
Web:
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This is just a heads up to any one who has been thinking of switching to or opening an account with bank of america. Although many of you may not notice, around 70 percent of americans live off of their pay checks and nothing more. Bank of America has put in place their own version of debit processing. Now you see it now you dont circumstances.

Case study: I have lost thousands of dollars, over the few years I have been with the bank of have lost over 8,000 in over draft fees. I am a traveling technician and checking my account status can be difficult. Bank of america has set up what they call convience processing.

All processes doomed to shake hands with bank of americas technology are processed by largest amount to smallest amount NOT by date of transaction. I.E. if you had 700 dollars in your account and on day 1 you spent 50 dollars of that 700 on small debits here and there i.e. coffee, dinner for the hot date you went on that night, a movie at your local store. On day 2 a check for 699 dollars is posted to your account. Even though that 699 hits after all of the smaller debits, bank of america processes largest to smallest and therefore you've just been taken for 105 dollars of your hard earned money rather than one simple 35 dollar over draft. Month after month whether it be for a nickle or a benjamin bank of america finds a way of making there "totaly free checking" worth something to their bottom line.

You will have untill 4PM to correct any problems on your account, to bad for most of us work ends after 5 or the next flight home isn't in an airport with a bank of america residing.

The customer service is outsourced and believe me when I say outsourced. They have joe schmoe of some contact center somewhere making 6 bucks an hour to tell you they totally back bank of americas principals and they can not do any thing for you. This is more than 1 call center people, you may be bounced from florida to califorina and back again just so this place can spend less funds on their staff. BE CAREFULL WHEN CHOOSING THIS BANK TO HANDLE YOUR FUNDS.

Lack of accountability is the problem, no one in the institution wants to acknowledge a fault in their infrastructure, they are making far too much money from it.

All though this may seem like a whine festivity on my part, it truly is my own fault for not ensuring I had proper funds, and, I would be willing to take responsibility for a bad judgment, not a well thought out CRM application that was built to rip off the hard working and very busy consumers.

Here is a snippet of what you may have to deal with when working with a bank reprisentative on one of these matters,

Welcome to Bank of America chat! An Online Banking Specialist will be with you momentarily.

Hello, this is Tammy, a Bank of America Online Banking Specialist. How may I help you today?

Tammy: Thank you for being a valued customer of Bank of America. My name is Tammy and I look forward to providing you with outstanding service. May I have your full name please?

you: daniel xxxx

Tammy: Hello Daniel!

Tammy: How may I provide you with assistance today?

you: I am a little more than concerned with my account history specifically over the last few days

you: I have been charged 5 35 dollar over draft fees because of the way bank of america processes requests. I would like four of these fees reveresed

Tammy: I will be happy to help!

Tammy: One moment please while I access your information.

you: is there something you need from me?

Tammy: Daniel, I see multiple transaction in with funds were not available for on 7/30/07.

you: my point exactly, yesterday I checked my balance at the ba atm and I had over one hundred dollars available, this morning a check for 555 was put through giving me a negative balance. There is no way that bank of americas debit system would have allowed for so many transactions to have taken place if the check had been truly posted after those transactions, its not the consumers fault that your billing system processes funds from the greatest amount to the least and not by date of transaction

Tammy: One moment please.

Tammy: Sorry for the delay!

Tammy: Unfortunately, we will not be able to review any overdraft charges until they have posted to your account. Please contact us via Text Chat once these overdraft charges have posted to your account. If you would like to contact us via phone please call our Customer Service department at 800.432.1000.

Tammy: Once the charges post then we can review these fees.

you: im sorry I am not happy with your canned response, you can view my history now or I will be forced to take my future mortgage, credit, and banking needs to one of your competitors

you: if i can see my history than you can too, don't blow me off

Tammy: Our research indicates the fees were applied correctly and no bank error occurred.+

you: and what was the research that you conducted to come to such a conclusion, by stating that there was no bank error than you are also stating that your institution would allow this many transactions to occur even with a negative balance? that is obsurd.....

Tammy: If you would like us to review these fees please contact us via Text Chat once these overdraft charges have posted to your account.

Tammy: Balances provided over the phone, ATMs, and on the Internet are up to the minute, but do not account for any outstanding items that may be charged or credited to your account overnight.

Tammy: Please refer to your personal check register to determine items that are outstanding and how they may affect your balance. We want to work with you to keep your account balanced and in good standing.

Tammy: We try to assist by providing 24-hour automated phone assistance, 24-hour Online Banking, and printed monthly statements. You can also check your available balance at ATMs.

Tammy: Our research indicates that no error occurred. Although we are not obligated to pay an item presented if your account does not have sufficient funds, we may pay it as a courtesy. This occurrence may warrant an insufficient funds or overdraft fee to be assessed to your account whether or not it is paid.

Tammy: I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.

Tammy: Is there anything else that I can assist you with today?

you: one moment

Tammy: Sure.

Daniel ward

Altamonte Springs, Florida

U.S.A.

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13 Updates & Rebuttals

Daniel Ward

Altamonte Springs,
Florida,
U.S.A.
ATM Definition friend.....

#2Consumer Comment

Wed, August 08, 2007

That makes way more sense :) thanks for the lesson.


Daniel Ward

Altamonte Springs,
Florida,
U.S.A.
ATM Definition friend.....

#3Consumer Comment

Wed, August 08, 2007

That makes way more sense :) thanks for the lesson.


Daniel Ward

Altamonte Springs,
Florida,
U.S.A.
ATM Definition friend.....

#4Consumer Comment

Wed, August 08, 2007

That makes way more sense :) thanks for the lesson.


Daniel Ward

Altamonte Springs,
Florida,
U.S.A.
ATM Definition friend.....

#5Consumer Comment

Wed, August 08, 2007

That makes way more sense :) thanks for the lesson.


Cory

San Antonio,
Texas,
U.S.A.
I've Been Saying It All Along

#6Consumer Comment

Tue, August 07, 2007

All these newfangled gadgets that are "suppose" to make our lives "better"? I DON'T THINK SO. The largest number of complaints about banks/CU's on the site have to do with overdrafts. The vast majority of them have to do with people checking their balances online. The computer, the automated phone lines, they aren't a d**n and don't tell you anything. The others, with ATM's, with withdrawls BEFORE deposits, with charges that go threw when they should't? All this has to do with all the systems the banks have put in to make things "better". HOW has this made things better? For whom" The banks that's who. By putting all these "new" systems in, the banks have been able to rack up hugh figures(billions) in fees. How has that helped the public they serve? There was that post the other day from some guy who posted he'd paid over $8,000 in overdraft fees over the years. And that's progress? Wise up people, refuse to play the bank's game. Haven't had an ATM card in 20 years. Had one for ONE week. I get out enough cash to last the week until payday. IF I run short, I go by the bank and get a couple of bucks more. That's it. Never paid a penney in overdrafts or fees. Lord, the banks hate people like me.


Mike

River Edge,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
ATM definition

#7Consumer Comment

Tue, August 07, 2007

I don't believe your definition of ATM is correct. ATM to my knowledge stands for Automated Teller Machine. Beyond that, BOA specifically tells you the posting order and fee structure of your account. I travel a lot with work too and they also tell me that ATM and online balances are not 100% accurate and I should keep a check register, which I do and have never bounced a check. The one time I had an NSF charge, it was due to identity fraud, and since I had such a good history with them, they reversed them


Aafes

Viernheim,
Europe,
U.S.A.
The bank will always fault the customer

#8Consumer Comment

Tue, August 07, 2007

The bank will always fault the customer. They will try and maintain the excuse the ATM balance is not to be considered your current balance. This is simple BS. The balance at the ATM and on a teller's terminal inside the bank should be accurate to the penny minus any outstanding checks and on the plus side for any electronic deposits not posted. If a customer is paid $1000.00 on Friday electronically, writes a check for $50.00 on Thursday at 6 p.m. (WHICH ACCORDING TO THE BANK IS FRIDAY'S BANK DAY) there is NO reason except to profit from an overdraft/NSF fee for the bank not to pay this check. This happens because the bank creatively decides the posting order (as the poster indicated largest to smallest) and almost ALWAYS will post debits prior to credits to the account - specifically to make a profit. With the advent of check 21 the banks saw this as a ripe opportunity to make profits. Couple this with "courtesy pay" plans and we are being bilked by the bank. "Maintain your own account register. The bank isn't you bookkeeper." I always laugh at this response. If a BANK cannot be relied on to keep the books accurate we are in real trouble.


Disgusted1

Anytown,
District of Columbia,
U.S.A.
Daniel, I sympathize with you... but regarding 'ATM'

#9Consumer Comment

Tue, August 07, 2007

I think that you have confused banking ATMs (Automated Teller Machines) with a high-speed network protocol, ATM (Asynchronous Transfer Mode). The two have nothing to do with each other, except that they share an acronym. Most Automated Teller Machines use a network protocol called Frame Relay. It is a very inexpensive network service (comparative to Asynch Transfer Mode) which is why most banks use it. Some ATMs (like in convenience stores) actually use dial-up. Sometimes you can even hear the ATM dialing when you're making your transaction. Frame Relay circuits to ATMachines are usually 64Kbps or less. This is still 'lightning fast' considering that the information that the ATMachine is sending is considerably small. 64Kbps is actually pretty fast when you consider that a land-line telephone call uses a 64Kbps circuit and takes 8,000 samples (or 'pictures' of your voice) every second and delivers them to a person halfway around the world without delay. Sorry to make this into a networking lesson (that's what I do for a living), but I just wanted to let you know that the ATMachine is lightning-quick whether it's using Asynch Transfer Mode (which none are - it would cost HUGE money and be a total waste) or Frame Relay or even dial-up. But again, I do sympathize with your problems with Bank of America and I hope everything works out for you and you find a nice, caring Credit Union that values you as a customer. :)


Daniel Ward

Altamonte Springs,
Florida,
U.S.A.
News Flash Friend.......

#10Author of original report

Tue, August 07, 2007

Your comment is appreciated, but unwarranted. Although what you are saying is the exact truth of banking institutions large and small your advocacy to this problem is an unfortunate delusion portrayed to consumers constantly. If you were to take a moment to read my entry and disregard your need for witty satisfaction you would see that I have taken full responsibility for the particular problem I face. Yes, I understand that preparing, reading and writing in my registrar is the proper way of tracing my funds, the problem herein. It is now the year 2007, thats the 21st century, and when provided with an application, or, in better words a tool to track my financial information, that tool should work to the specifications of the user wielding it. Now, take into consideration the amount of time it could or does take the average consumer to update their registrar. Now, major financial institutions around the world are providing electronic tools for you account, for instance; online banking and ATM transactions. ATM is defined as: Asynchronous Transfer Mode A high bandwidth, High speed (up to 155 Mbps) take into consideration, the high speed Internet broad band provided by your cable company is only 3-5Mbps on a solid copper line. This is one of the fastest and most secure interfaces in play today, therefore, if you are provided with such tools, the appeal of the banking institution to the consumer has just strengthened, a convenience if you will, no more writing in your registry every day, we'll make it easy for you. Now, these tools are used to misinform the unsuspecting user, if a debit occurs today whether it posts to my bank or not, I should still see an immediate record of the transaction, BY DATE. Until you can tell me why millions of dollars are invested every year into making such tools, and no effort is put forth to give the end user an option as to how these tools can be used, or, until the banking institutions provide an accurate way of tracking charges and credits, then I believe we are all better off with porcelain piggy banks. After all, for the everyday banker, with no need for home loans, credit cards, or some other god awful, bank inspired interest baring convenience, we really have no need for them. Its a place to put my money, and if that is all I can get out of Bank of America, then I will d**n sure find somewhere else to put my money. Tampa Bay -- Thank You, but I am far too busy to get caught up in litigation in a fight that can not be won. For now, I have chosen a small family owned credit union with great customer benefits. I suggest you do the same. Daniel


Allan

Lakeland,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Bank Of America

#11Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 03, 2007

Hello Daniel: I had a bank problem. They just took money from my account for what they said was not credited for me to use. They charged me for ATM charge amounts for less than 15.00, several of them for 35.00 each. I tried to take them to small claims court. Every time I filed a law suit they would give me back the fee. It didn't take me long to realize they will not spend 1,000 in lawyer fees to get 35.00. Its takes some of your time,however if everyone filed a small claims suits for each charge, not several in one case. File one every month on a 35.00 fee. They would stop this stealing from the customers. They only do it because they make a lot of money from it and no one does any thing about it. Stand up and be counted, get it done. Allan Tampa,Fl


Allan

Lakeland,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Bank Of America

#12Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 03, 2007

Hello Daniel: I had a bank problem. They just took money from my account for what they said was not credited for me to use. They charged me for ATM charge amounts for less than 15.00, several of them for 35.00 each. I tried to take them to small claims court. Every time I filed a law suit they would give me back the fee. It didn't take me long to realize they will not spend 1,000 in lawyer fees to get 35.00. Its takes some of your time,however if everyone filed a small claims suits for each charge, not several in one case. File one every month on a 35.00 fee. They would stop this stealing from the customers. They only do it because they make a lot of money from it and no one does any thing about it. Stand up and be counted, get it done. Allan Tampa,Fl


Allan

Lakeland,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Bank Of America

#13Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 03, 2007

Hello Daniel: I had a bank problem. They just took money from my account for what they said was not credited for me to use. They charged me for ATM charge amounts for less than 15.00, several of them for 35.00 each. I tried to take them to small claims court. Every time I filed a law suit they would give me back the fee. It didn't take me long to realize they will not spend 1,000 in lawyer fees to get 35.00. Its takes some of your time,however if everyone filed a small claims suits for each charge, not several in one case. File one every month on a 35.00 fee. They would stop this stealing from the customers. They only do it because they make a lot of money from it and no one does any thing about it. Stand up and be counted, get it done. Allan Tampa,Fl


Robert

Wallingford,
Connecticut,
U.S.A.
Here's a news flash.

#14Consumer Comment

Wed, August 01, 2007

Most banks have the same policies and have for several years now. A couple of tips. Don't use the ATM or online banking for your account balance. You'll overdraft every time. Maintain your own account register. The bank isn't you bookkeeper. Read your account terms and conditions. Get aquanted with the banks funds availability policies. Just because the check you deposited posted to your account, doesn't mean the funds are available to draw against. Don't spend it until it's available to draw against. There is no float time anymore. Use cash or your debit card instead of a check card. The check card places a hold on the funds until the merchant processes the transaction. Then it posts and gets debited from the account. The bank also gets a small fee each time you use it (why do you think they encourage it so much). Good luck.

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