Frank
Fremont,#2Author of original report
Fri, January 05, 2007
It's OK to call on the phone once, but ALWAYS follow up a dispute in writing using the instructions and address on the back of the statement. You still have time because it's been less than 60 days from the disputed $824. Trying to do this business over the phone is not a good idea with ANY company especially a bad one. - I've sent disputes to both of their Fraud Department addresses; Fraud Operations and Investigative services. Also most of the consumer's power in a dispute comes from their right to refuse to repay a disputed charge. Do not pay off disputed amounts. They cannot charge interest or consider you overlimit because of a disputed amount until after they have a good reason to rule it against you. - Unfortunately, the amount ($824.84) is not in dispute according to them. It was never one as I had not file a dispute for that amount until trying to resolve this over the phone with them starting in November. The are unwilling to open the dispute on this amount over the phone which is why I sent them the dispute letter. I would rather pay first than have to deal with their finance charges on my other purchases, etc. Currently I am not being charged finance charges on anything as there is never a balance to charge them to. - It's sad as they know there is a mistake and just won't fix it. I'm hoping the letters to the AG and Comm of Financial institutions will help. If not there must be some recourse as they can't even prove who authorized the charge (no signature, no pos slip, not even a vendor/merchant that is receiving the money, it is just in their coffers.
Frank
Fremont,#3Author of original report
Fri, January 05, 2007
It's a little hard to understand just what's going on here. In order to be helpful, more information would be useful. - The only amount in dispute is the $824.84 that they mysteriously added in at C1, not the $848.71 which was a dispute that went nowhere. The $848.71 is not in question as it is resolved (not in my favor, but resolved all the same) Specifically: 1. What did you buy overseas and why did you dispute the charge? - Cigars that were defective/non-authentic. They are not the problem. 2. Was the item delivered? - Yes, they are not the problem 3. Was it returned? - Yes, they are not the problem 4. Do you have reason to believe the original seller has dropped all claim against you? - Yes, they are not the problem As your complaint reads you are out $848.71 PLUS $824.84 for a total of $1673.55. Is this correct? - Just the $824.84. The dispute for the $848.71 was originally debited, credited while they researched and re-debited when they found in favor of the merchant. While that did not work out in my favor, I am not disputing the $848.71 again, just the $824.84 that was placed on the account without reason or cause. Your original assumption that the same charge was redebited to your account twice seems reasonable. If so, it's surprising they didn't easily resolve it. One other thought, is the seller in Europe a reliable company? - It is not the original company involved with anything. Their dispute claim is over and done with. C1 doesn't know who is charging the account, as they are the ones that just added the charge, they only state that it is clearly a mistake, but will not return or correct the posting of the extra debit. Could they be double charging you? - Item is clearly listed as "Item in Dispute" I never initiate a dispute and even if I did, they should have issued a credit against the original charge first, then redebited the account. That did not occur, they just added this extra debit of $824.84 and won't remove or correct it. I hope this helps.
Vince
Carmichael,#4Consumer Suggestion
Fri, January 05, 2007
It's a little hard to understand just what's going on here. In order to be helpful, more information would be useful. Specifically: 1. What did you buy overseas and why did you dispute the charge? 2. Was the item delivered? 3. Was it returned? 4. Do you have reason to believe the original seller has dropped all claim against you? As your complaint reads you are out $848.71 PLUS $824.84 for a total of $1673.55. Is this correct? Your original assumption that the same charge was redebited to your account twice seems reasonable. If so, it's surprising they didn't easily resolve it. One other thought, is the seller in Europe a reliable company? Could they be double charging you?
Mike
Radford,#5Consumer Suggestion
Fri, January 05, 2007
It's OK to call on the phone once, but ALWAYS follow up a dispute in writing using the instructions and address on the back of the statement. You still have time because it's been less than 60 days from the disputed $824. Trying to do this business over the phone is not a good idea with ANY company especially a bad one. Also most of the consumer's power in a dispute comes from their right to refuse to repay a disputed charge. Do not pay off disputed amounts. They cannot charge interest or consider you overlimit because of a disputed amount until after they have a good reason to rule it against you.