- Report: #777617
Complaint Review: CIIIMTG - Internet
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Las vegas, Nevada, United States of America
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CIIIMTG
Internet, United States of America
Phone:
7029395514
Web:
Ciiimtg.com
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CIIIMTG Lorenzo Nava Lorenzo Nava stole my money and will no longer take my calls. Internet
On Oct 22, 2008, I entered into a transaction with Lorenzo Nava that was "supposed" to double your money in 7 days. Then if you decided to keep your money in you could make more from there in order to fund a loan. He called it a "trading platform".
I was fresh out of college and ready to start my business, so I jumped in head first without looking. After the first week went by I asked Lorenzo what was happening. He stated the was a "problem" with the trade but I would get my money "next week". That started a trend of "next week" statements that has lasted as long as he would take my calls. 8 months ago he stop taking my calls. He had a partner he was using for this deal who he said took my money and he is not responsible for it and I should call him ask him to return my money.
Lorenzo then tells me I was not his client even though he brought me in and he dealt with the third party. He then went on to slander the third party saying he is a scammed who takes people's money. Why did he work with him in the first place just tell me this 2 years later?
I have paperwork with his signature stating I will get my money in 7 days. I have also contacted the FBI regarding this matter and the Agent I spoke to already knew his name. He now has a Las Vegas telephone number along with the California number he's been using.
702-939-5514 213-841-0843
All I want is my money back. Lorenzo you know who in am and you also know you stole money. Please respond to this with an explanation.
Anyone else out there who have been taken by Lorenzo Nava it's time to get together and file one large lawsuit and put him out of business for good.
I was fresh out of college and ready to start my business, so I jumped in head first without looking. After the first week went by I asked Lorenzo what was happening. He stated the was a "problem" with the trade but I would get my money "next week". That started a trend of "next week" statements that has lasted as long as he would take my calls. 8 months ago he stop taking my calls. He had a partner he was using for this deal who he said took my money and he is not responsible for it and I should call him ask him to return my money.
Lorenzo then tells me I was not his client even though he brought me in and he dealt with the third party. He then went on to slander the third party saying he is a scammed who takes people's money. Why did he work with him in the first place just tell me this 2 years later?
I have paperwork with his signature stating I will get my money in 7 days. I have also contacted the FBI regarding this matter and the Agent I spoke to already knew his name. He now has a Las Vegas telephone number along with the California number he's been using.
702-939-5514 213-841-0843
All I want is my money back. Lorenzo you know who in am and you also know you stole money. Please respond to this with an explanation.
Anyone else out there who have been taken by Lorenzo Nava it's time to get together and file one large lawsuit and put him out of business for good.
2 Updates & Rebuttals
Lorenzo Nava
#2Author of original report
Mon, January 30, 2017
To BOB S. I don't know if your Lorenzo's attorney or not, but Lorenzo is not who he says he is. I have my original paperwork to this day with the transaction that I entered in with him and a guy named Chris Venti. Maybe you thought you wouldn't get a response on ripoff report because it was so long ago. I am not sure. I did not file a former complaint, because my lawyers told me it would cost more to fight than I would win.
I could probably get enough money punitive damages, but overall not worth my effort. If he needed money that bad to steal he can have it. I have been very fortunate in my endeavors for that money not to harm me long term. So no, this account is NOT FAKE. You or anyone else can feel free to contact me at [email protected]. I also contact 3 other people that I found online at the time I was going through this ordeal with Lorenzo. They seemed pretty legit to me.
CIIIMTG,LLC
LOS ANGELES,California,
USA
DUE DILIGENCE ON CIIIMTG, LLC AND LORENZO NAVA
#3General Comment
Mon, January 30, 2017
MEMO 12/19/2012
From Bob S
Lorenzo Nava, CIIIMTG
To whom it may concern,
I have researched Lorenzo Nava, CIIIMTG .
I called the F.B.I. And the Federal Trade Commission. I also checked with the California State Attorney Generals Office, Better Business Bureau national database, and the Freedom of information Act Federal database (to search across all Federal Government websites at once).
I also checked several “scam” websites on the internet. This is what I found.
F.B.I. Although they could not tell me if any complaints were filed or if there was an ongoing investigation they could tell me that his name and his company name did not appear in their data base.
F.T.C. They told me that if there were any complaints or legal filings against Lorenzo Nava or CIIIMTG that I could find them through the Freedom Of Information Act.
Freedom of Information Act Neither the name Lorenzo Nava or the business name CIIIMTG showed up in FOIA .
Better Business Bureau, Los Angeles One complaint, resolved through BBB, details on the BBB website. CIIIMTG has been a member since 10/6/2008. This complaint shows up elsewhere on the internet. I also checked the BBB national database and this is the only complaint.
California State Attorney Generals Office No Complaints. He filed as a business entity 5/15/2008.
Internet Postings “Ripoff Report” and “Scam Informer” each had the same six complaints posting from 2009-2011, all anonymous; monies deposited not returned,non performance, going to the authorities, the FBI. None of these people has filed a formal complaint, no charges have been brought.
Mortgage Broker Outpost.com, Business Week, part of Business Exchange; Post by “assassin 17” complaint , he is a member of Broker Outpost. You must be a professional in the field of Real Estate to join this website. His only contribution to Broker Outpost was a song about mortgages.
Anyone can post a complaint on many different websites anonymously. There is no way to find the author. On Lorenzo's website ,on the bottom of the column on the left, you will see Malicious Postings. Check it out. I have found no real evidence of Lorenzo or his company being involved in any misleading or illegal practices. His lenders and borrowers act in confidentiality.
Each Scam website offers a disclaimer saying that they are not responsible for false complaints. In my opinion these websites should have verifiable complaints or be removed from the web. Accusations without accountability. One website I found particularly interesting
was “complaintslist.com. They offer postings for complaints along with postings of responses to the complaints and a method to resolve the complaints. All accusatory websites should be like this. Someone once said “they couldn't put it on the internet if it wasn't true.”
I have also found some people posting responses that are favorable to Lorenzo and his company especially on LinkedIn, but one on Brokers Outpost. I have personally spoken to three different clients of Lorenzo who spoke highly of him who used his services as a consultant. He has been in business since 2008, member of L.A. BBB since then with an A rating, and I don't believe the accusations against him are true. I believe it to be a matter of “sour grapes” with some of his disappointed clients.
Sincerely,
Bob S
