Complaint Review: EC Computers - Man Tang And Simon Tang - Ebay - Paypal - Brooklyn New York

Update: 06-02-04 The New York Attorney General's Office sent me a letter (snail mail) letting me know they are investigating the Fraud Complaint. The wheels of Justice may yet put these crooks behind bars and I still will attempt getting the rest of the money owed me. Man Tang and Simon Tang, your stinking days are numbered! Theives! You had a chance to either efund, or send the item (to me and all the other victims) Now both the money and jail await your Arses! And kiss your Corporate License goodbye! Oh yeah, I hope the IRS grabs your arse too! If you are illegals, it's back to wherever you came from too!

Update: eBay has settled my Insurance Claim. They will pay me $75.00 on my $113.00 LOSS! Here is a small quote I have taken from the letter (mind you this is from a multi-billion dollar corporation, and I also have a suspicion that they were warned of the fraud, before they took action, but only took action after monies were paid in his last "Dutch Auction Fraud SCAM" : Here is is a sentence in the claim letter from eBay: "We are sorry that you have had this difficult experience and hope that the Fraud Protection Program has helped to alleviate some of the disappointment." By the way, they wil send my money to me via PayPal. (Dealing with the devil till I get my cash). The THEIVES: EC Computers Inc. - Man Tang And Simon Tang - Brooklyn, New York ! Are AT Large! And to my knowledge they are running free with al the money they stole in this ** eBay, PayPal, FRAUD, Theft, SWINDLE, Mail Fraud, Internet FRAUD Fraud across state lines! Larceny! Conspiracy! ** Not one of the agencies notified has said a word on the filed complaints!

EC Cmputers Inc, also used ID verify with Verisign (on eBay): --------------- http://pages.ebay.com/services/buyandsell/idverify-login.html Establish your proof of identity with ID Verify - an easy way to help others trust you as their trading partner. The process takes about 10 minutes to complete and involves updating your information over a secure connection and answering a few questions. When you're successfully verified, you will receive an ID Verify icon in your feedback profile. Currently, the service is only available to residents of the United States and U.S. territories (Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands and Guam.) Learn more about ID Verify. Fee: Verification costs $5 and is valid until your name, home address or phone number change. You'll be charged only when you complete the process. Note: After successful verification, you will not be able to modify your contact information for 30 days. Also, the ID Verify icon is used for 3 different verification processes. Verisign provides individual verification on eBay.com. GeoTrust, Inc. is used for the verification of certain businesses selling on eBay.com. Deutsche Post is used for the verification of German members on eBay.de. Sign Up Now ------------ http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/id_verify.html ID Verify Details ID Verify establishes your proof of identity, helping others trust you as a seller or buyer. When you get ID verified, you can: Buy with eBay's Buy It Now feature (where offered) Bid above $15,000 Sell in eBay's Mature Audiences category In the ID Verify process your personal information is cross-checked against consumer and business databases for consistency. You will be asked to enter information such as your name and date of birth, as well as to identify certain installment and credit accounts and their associated monthly payments. ID Verify is not a credit check. When your information is successfully verified, you will receive an ID Verify icon in your ID card, located in your feedback profile. Once you have successfully passed the ID Verify process, a $5 fee will be charged to your eBay account. You won't be charged if you do not complete the process or if you do not successfully pass the ID Verify process. ID Verify is only available to residents of the United States and U.S. territories (Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, and Guam). You must provide your home address and personal information to pass the online verification process. Work address and contact information are currently not accepted. Frequently Asked Questions Can I change my contact information? Yes, however after successful verification you must wait 30 days before you may change your contact information. If you change any of your contact information after the 30-day period, your ID Verify icon and status will be removed. If you wish to restore your ID Verify status you will have to go through the verification process again and be charged the $5 application fee. What if I don't pass? You may wish to verify the information you entered is correct (we recommend having your documents handy while you go through the process). Not passing the ID Verify process will not affect your credit. ID Verify Safety and Privacy Your privacy is important to us. The information provided will only be used for verification purposes. Additionally, your information is encrypted and sent using a secure 128-bit encrypted SSL connection to protect the transfer of your information. eBay stores only your contact information and date of birth. eBay does not store personal information, such as social security or driver's license numbers. VeriSign does not update the information that you provide through eBay, but only compares it against existing information in their files to verify your identity. VeriSign cannot add information into its database that recognizes you as an eBay user (except for auditing purposes, as required by law). Also, it cannot make any notation in its database that the information provided was confirmed (or not) with the information in their databases. Asking questions related to your credit is a security measure that protects you from someone else attempting to get verified with your information. ID Verify is not a credit check, and whether or not you pass the verification process will not affect your credit. ============= Yet the crooks still have gotten away with this Huge FRAUD! what the hell good did all that Verisign ID verify do us victims?

EC Cmputers Inc, also used ID verify with Verisign (on eBay): --------------- http://pages.ebay.com/services/buyandsell/idverify-login.html Establish your proof of identity with ID Verify - an easy way to help others trust you as their trading partner. The process takes about 10 minutes to complete and involves updating your information over a secure connection and answering a few questions. When you're successfully verified, you will receive an ID Verify icon in your feedback profile. Currently, the service is only available to residents of the United States and U.S. territories (Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands and Guam.) Learn more about ID Verify. Fee: Verification costs $5 and is valid until your name, home address or phone number change. You'll be charged only when you complete the process. Note: After successful verification, you will not be able to modify your contact information for 30 days. Also, the ID Verify icon is used for 3 different verification processes. Verisign provides individual verification on eBay.com. GeoTrust, Inc. is used for the verification of certain businesses selling on eBay.com. Deutsche Post is used for the verification of German members on eBay.de. Sign Up Now ------------ http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/id_verify.html ID Verify Details ID Verify establishes your proof of identity, helping others trust you as a seller or buyer. When you get ID verified, you can: Buy with eBay's Buy It Now feature (where offered) Bid above $15,000 Sell in eBay's Mature Audiences category In the ID Verify process your personal information is cross-checked against consumer and business databases for consistency. You will be asked to enter information such as your name and date of birth, as well as to identify certain installment and credit accounts and their associated monthly payments. ID Verify is not a credit check. When your information is successfully verified, you will receive an ID Verify icon in your ID card, located in your feedback profile. Once you have successfully passed the ID Verify process, a $5 fee will be charged to your eBay account. You won't be charged if you do not complete the process or if you do not successfully pass the ID Verify process. ID Verify is only available to residents of the United States and U.S. territories (Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, and Guam). You must provide your home address and personal information to pass the online verification process. Work address and contact information are currently not accepted. Frequently Asked Questions Can I change my contact information? Yes, however after successful verification you must wait 30 days before you may change your contact information. If you change any of your contact information after the 30-day period, your ID Verify icon and status will be removed. If you wish to restore your ID Verify status you will have to go through the verification process again and be charged the $5 application fee. What if I don't pass? You may wish to verify the information you entered is correct (we recommend having your documents handy while you go through the process). Not passing the ID Verify process will not affect your credit. ID Verify Safety and Privacy Your privacy is important to us. The information provided will only be used for verification purposes. Additionally, your information is encrypted and sent using a secure 128-bit encrypted SSL connection to protect the transfer of your information. eBay stores only your contact information and date of birth. eBay does not store personal information, such as social security or driver's license numbers. VeriSign does not update the information that you provide through eBay, but only compares it against existing information in their files to verify your identity. VeriSign cannot add information into its database that recognizes you as an eBay user (except for auditing purposes, as required by law). Also, it cannot make any notation in its database that the information provided was confirmed (or not) with the information in their databases. Asking questions related to your credit is a security measure that protects you from someone else attempting to get verified with your information. ID Verify is not a credit check, and whether or not you pass the verification process will not affect your credit. ============= Yet the crooks still have gotten away with this Huge FRAUD! what the hell good did all that Verisign ID verify do us victims?

EC Cmputers Inc, also used ID verify with Verisign (on eBay): --------------- http://pages.ebay.com/services/buyandsell/idverify-login.html Establish your proof of identity with ID Verify - an easy way to help others trust you as their trading partner. The process takes about 10 minutes to complete and involves updating your information over a secure connection and answering a few questions. When you're successfully verified, you will receive an ID Verify icon in your feedback profile. Currently, the service is only available to residents of the United States and U.S. territories (Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands and Guam.) Learn more about ID Verify. Fee: Verification costs $5 and is valid until your name, home address or phone number change. You'll be charged only when you complete the process. Note: After successful verification, you will not be able to modify your contact information for 30 days. Also, the ID Verify icon is used for 3 different verification processes. Verisign provides individual verification on eBay.com. GeoTrust, Inc. is used for the verification of certain businesses selling on eBay.com. Deutsche Post is used for the verification of German members on eBay.de. Sign Up Now ------------ http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/id_verify.html ID Verify Details ID Verify establishes your proof of identity, helping others trust you as a seller or buyer. When you get ID verified, you can: Buy with eBay's Buy It Now feature (where offered) Bid above $15,000 Sell in eBay's Mature Audiences category In the ID Verify process your personal information is cross-checked against consumer and business databases for consistency. You will be asked to enter information such as your name and date of birth, as well as to identify certain installment and credit accounts and their associated monthly payments. ID Verify is not a credit check. When your information is successfully verified, you will receive an ID Verify icon in your ID card, located in your feedback profile. Once you have successfully passed the ID Verify process, a $5 fee will be charged to your eBay account. You won't be charged if you do not complete the process or if you do not successfully pass the ID Verify process. ID Verify is only available to residents of the United States and U.S. territories (Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, and Guam). You must provide your home address and personal information to pass the online verification process. Work address and contact information are currently not accepted. Frequently Asked Questions Can I change my contact information? Yes, however after successful verification you must wait 30 days before you may change your contact information. If you change any of your contact information after the 30-day period, your ID Verify icon and status will be removed. If you wish to restore your ID Verify status you will have to go through the verification process again and be charged the $5 application fee. What if I don't pass? You may wish to verify the information you entered is correct (we recommend having your documents handy while you go through the process). Not passing the ID Verify process will not affect your credit. ID Verify Safety and Privacy Your privacy is important to us. The information provided will only be used for verification purposes. Additionally, your information is encrypted and sent using a secure 128-bit encrypted SSL connection to protect the transfer of your information. eBay stores only your contact information and date of birth. eBay does not store personal information, such as social security or driver's license numbers. VeriSign does not update the information that you provide through eBay, but only compares it against existing information in their files to verify your identity. VeriSign cannot add information into its database that recognizes you as an eBay user (except for auditing purposes, as required by law). Also, it cannot make any notation in its database that the information provided was confirmed (or not) with the information in their databases. Asking questions related to your credit is a security measure that protects you from someone else attempting to get verified with your information. ID Verify is not a credit check, and whether or not you pass the verification process will not affect your credit. ============= Yet the crooks still have gotten away with this Huge FRAUD! what the hell good did all that Verisign ID verify do us victims?

Filling out more forms and waiting MADNESS ! Even though I aggressively and bitterly, and very angrily put up with PayPal timelines and deadlines, I got nowhere, and eBay (which owns PayPal had me wait the 10 days, and then I filed the claim with them and the Fraud (the same which I desperately tried to communicate with them back in March 2004, and put the claim in for the buyer protection money. You guessed it! eBay wants to make me wait 45 more days while they dance and waste time! What are they going to do that hasn't already been done? Maybe everything they refused to do to begin with! I can't believe they are actually going to ask a 'CROOK' to 'please' either refund my money or send the item??!! How about one of these MORONIC agencies actually go drag the CROOKS off to jail! No Justice, No Peace! hey you MORONS at eBay, PayPal, and Government agencies, how about doing your damned jobs! This crime is now in week Six! !

I sent an e-mail to Verizon ( a couple weeks ago), telling them how EC Computers is/was Defrauding people (on eBay), they used a Verizon Email address to De-Fraud many people over the last Month. The Email is stil in Operation. verizon took no action to shut down the Theif's Email. Maybe it's possible they have no yet got a court order to do so. But I am angry they have not yet acted. All the Local and Federal Law Enforcement agenicies have been notified, Yet, Verizon, the Theif's Email service is stil operation. How do I know, because: It still accepts Email without it kicking it back! In the middle of thr Fraud and Scam, the crooks Email filled up once and it was full. Obviously, the crook must have gooten the Email because it accepted the Email after he read it from his inbox. Again, the crooks have refused to contact and talk to any and all of the crooks he ripped off on eBay. Verizon.net SHAME on YOU! YOur customer is getting very close to be charged with lots and lots of crimes. Heavy cromes. Yet, you let the crook keep using the service he used to De_Fraud all of us Victims!

I have done a search with the New York Department of State, and Secretary of State. It has also verified the name and address of the Auction Seller: http://www.dos.state.ny.us/about/sitemap.html Entity Information -------------------------------- Selected Entity Name: EC COMPUTERS, INC. Current Entity Name: EC COMPUTERS, INC. Initial DOS Filing Date: DECEMBER 02, 2003 County: KINGS Jurisdiction: NEW YORK Entity Type: DOMESTIC BUSINESS CORPORATION Current Entity Status: ACTIVE DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity) EC COMPUTERS, INC. 2824 FORT HAMILTON PARKWAY BROOKLYN, NEW YORK 11218 Registered Agent NONE NOTE: New York State does not issue organizational identification numbers. -----------

I have done a search with the New York Department of State, and Secretary of State. It has also verified the name and address of the Auction Seller: http://www.dos.state.ny.us/about/sitemap.html Entity Information -------------------------------- Selected Entity Name: EC COMPUTERS, INC. Current Entity Name: EC COMPUTERS, INC. Initial DOS Filing Date: DECEMBER 02, 2003 County: KINGS Jurisdiction: NEW YORK Entity Type: DOMESTIC BUSINESS CORPORATION Current Entity Status: ACTIVE DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity) EC COMPUTERS, INC. 2824 FORT HAMILTON PARKWAY BROOKLYN, NEW YORK 11218 Registered Agent NONE NOTE: New York State does not issue organizational identification numbers. -----------

I have done a search with the New York Department of State, and Secretary of State. It has also verified the name and address of the Auction Seller: http://www.dos.state.ny.us/about/sitemap.html Entity Information -------------------------------- Selected Entity Name: EC COMPUTERS, INC. Current Entity Name: EC COMPUTERS, INC. Initial DOS Filing Date: DECEMBER 02, 2003 County: KINGS Jurisdiction: NEW YORK Entity Type: DOMESTIC BUSINESS CORPORATION Current Entity Status: ACTIVE DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity) EC COMPUTERS, INC. 2824 FORT HAMILTON PARKWAY BROOKLYN, NEW YORK 11218 Registered Agent NONE NOTE: New York State does not issue organizational identification numbers. -----------

Hi, I just learned he the Foxnews Channel,in New York, Problem Solvers did a story about this Fraud! I emailed them asking for help, and they did a story! I have just been told by a Policeman from New York. He told me they did the story, and also said all the agenices were notified, but sadly, no-one has gotten their money back ..YET.... I have no clue what else they dug up, because I have no other information, but am happy that my pushing this seems to have helped, at least I think it was my asking for help... I am 3,000 miles form there, so I have to go by word of mouth on what's going on.... Thanx for listening!

I have also sent a Fraud complaint to: United States Post Office Mail Fraud https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm ------------- Since there are many other victims, we have started to join up, and work as a team to get justice! This was a Dutch auction, and there are 11 Bidders who paid and got nothing! Also, it appears that through the feedback of this auction on eBay, this Seller has also other complaints of non-delivery, they happened only a few very short days before Seller disappeared. Will update with news, when anything significant happens.