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  • Report:  #196619

Complaint Review: John Beck Mentoring Of America - Van Nuys California

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- Toronto, Ontario,
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John Beck Mentoring Of America
P.O. Box 570 Van Nuys, 84604 California, U.S.A.
Phone:
818-464-1650
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I was recently scammed out of 3/4 of my savings by John Becks Fraudulent little enterprise.

To the tune of $15,000.00 USD, I live in Canada.

I have filed a complaint with the BBB, what little good that will do me. I have also filed a report with the State of Utah Department of Commerce, Division of Consumer Protection.

I have also contacted the "County" Attorney Mr. Trueblood in L.A. Here is his practice # (#150897)if anyone cares to look him up on the http://www.calbar.ca.gov State bar website.

I recently did a conservative estimate of the damage these people are causing. Based on an average of $12,000.00 per victim and a total of 300 victims per year, which is not unreasonable to assume, their total take would be $3,600,000.00 !!

Yes, thats right folks, 3 Million 6 Hundred Thousand dollars in scam money!!! Extracted from innocent victims simply seeking a better life style.

Of course the numbers are probably much more significant than my estimate based on monthly billing cycles placed on credit cards etc...

I could almost estimate that this scam nets John Beck in the neighborhood of around 5 Million dollars a year!

With that kind of capital it's easy to see how easily this company can continue to operate and propogate it's scams.

I would say that everyones best bet would be to contact Mr. Trueblood and start making waves in L.A. for Mr. Beck & Co.

If Mr. Trueblood gets enough inquiries about this Beck

character then I'm sure it's only a matter of time before he sees that this issue is much bigger than it seems on it's face.

I have been pouring over reports about John Becks Fraudulent empire for hours now and the information from victims is pretty much the same.

Beck's scam methodology seems to have a very clear pattern from victim to victim! As Reid has also pointed out this company fishes for credit limits in order to "Tailor" their mentoring quote to your available credit or cash availability!

The fact that this is a scam is so obvious that it boggles the mind to think that Law enforcement authorities have not done anything about this guy and his company.

Of course, at first, it all seems legit based on some very slick talk and sales momentum that the guy on the other end of the line builds up in the victims mind about their "Team".

But things become VERY clear quite quickly that they have no knowledge or intentions of providing ANY kind of help or service as advertised.

Only after a victim begins to research the issue, such as myself, does it become abundantly clear that we have been had!

There is no shame in being a victim of this type of scam. It simply means that I, or someone else, is a trusting person. The trick is in knowing WHO to trust. And WHY I should trust them.

I'm far from stupid, but I am not perfect either. I really should have done the research BUT I didn't. This does not put me, or anyone else, at fault. I am a victim, plain and simple.

I am suceptible to lapses in judgement and this lapse in judgement does NOT make me responsible for this company's fraudulent conduct in any way. Nor does it make anyone else responsible.

This issue must be pursued to the fullest extent of the law and every possible remedy available to me.

I strongly encourage you to do the same if you have been victimized by this organized crime syndicate!

I have made three documents available in PDF format for you to download, fill out, and submit if you care to pursue this matter further:

Utah Department of Consumer Protection Complaint Form:

http://ox.eicat.ca/~synergy/s/utahstate.pdf

LA Bar Association Complaint Form:

http://ox.eicat.ca/~synergy/s/calbarcomp.pdf

All contact information pertaining to John Beck:

http://ox.eicat.ca/~synergy/s/jb.pdf

You can get Acrobat Reader free here:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

Cheers and good luck to all!

Matt.

Matt

Toronto, Ontario
Canada


5 Updates & Rebuttals

Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.
More on the bogus coaching sold by John Beck and Mentoring of America, and why it's not all it's cracked up to be.

#2Consumer Suggestion

Fri, September 08, 2006

After being denied a refund many times by Mentoring of America, I just went ahead and finished all 10 coaching calls and recorded them on tape for future reference. I'm going to summarize what I was instructed to do by a Mentoring of America coach in ten weekly, 30 minute coaching calls, and why it's not what they tell you it is. You cannot buy houses for a few hundred dollars or even a few thousand dollars like the infomercial. THE COACHING PROGRAM IN SUMMARY It's basically this: Buy land off Bid4Assets.com and then sell it on Ebay. Try to borrow the money from your family first, then a bank or credit card if that does not work. 1. The main focus of the entire coaching program was to simply to direct me to go to a free public website called Bid4Assets.com. It's a website where forclosed and reposessed property is sold off. In this site, there is a tax sale section. They told me to go there, register for free, and bid on tax sale properties that different states and counties auction off there every few months. These are either undesireable peices of land or homes in wrecked condition that the county has taken from the owners for not paying taxes, debts, ect and is selling off here online. I was supposed to buy land for cheap here, and then immediately turn right around and sell it on Ebay for a profit. 2. They told me to use a "Sniping" technique to bid on these properties. This means waiting to throw in my bid only at the last possible minutes or seconds before the auction ends. Just like people do on Ebay. This technique is used to avoid a bidding war with the current high bidder, and give him no time to come back with a higher bid than yours. 3. They told me to call the state's county that is auctioning these properties to do a "Title Seach" on each one listed, to see if I should bid on it or not. This means finding out if there are any unpaid debts, liens, mortgages, ect. attached to the properity from the previous owner. You need to know this, because once you buy the property, you legally inherit any unpaid debts, liens, or mortgages from the previous owner that you did not know about. THE PROBLEMS AND WHY BID4ASSETS DOES NOT WORK I did everything I was told and this was my personal experince after several months of work: 1. It's extremely time consuming to make a list of all potential properties, call each county to determine it's value, it's phycical location, description, and it's title history before bidding. You need to do all this for each property before you decide to bid on anything. 2. Every county/state that was selling land on Bid4Assets that I called over the phone, told me that their laws say that I as the new owner, would have to own and pay tax on the property for at least 1 year before I could sell it off to someone else. I was supposed to be buying this land and then immediately turning around and sell it on Ebay like the coach told me. The county told me I had to own it a full year and pay taxes on it before I could sell it to anyone. You also must pay the entire default tax ammount (the ammount of tax the previous owner has not paid) the property has on top of the ending auction price. Just getting the title to your name takes several months in some states after you win and buy it. Then you have to own it for a whole year before you can sell it. 3. Bid4Assets used to be free to be able to bid in the tax sale section. But a good while back, they changed that. Now you have to put down an up front deposit of about $4,500 just to be able to bid on any of these properties. It's still like this today. 4. Bid4Assets did not like people using a "Sniping" bid technique. The eliminated your ability to do this by making a change to the auction's end time. Now, the auction will not end on the end time shown, only untill 5 full minutes pass with no bid activities. So now the "Sniping" technique they teach you won't work and can't be used at all. Everything gets bid up. 5. Doing a "Title Seach" on the properties before you bid on them is not possible or will cost you a lot of money to do. 6. Every county/state that I called who was autioning off property on Bid4Assets that I was looking to bid on was not local to me. Either out of state of far away. I called all the different counties/states by phone just like I was told to do for a "Title Seach" on the properties. Each state has it's own rules and laws. But they all either told me they have no way of telling me if there are any any unpaid debts on the titles of their properties listed on Bid4Assets that I would inherit and take over. Or they told me that the only way I could find that out is to walk into the local recorder's office and pull the property files personally. They told me that you can't do that if you don't live there, and they can't tell you this information over the phone anyway. I then told the person that they are basically auctioning off other people's debts and problems for someone else to inherit. That they don't provide a way for people to know about anything on the title they will inherit from the previous owner. 7. If you call a title company in the same county were the properties are to do your "Title Seaches", and give them the parcel numbers of the properites, they either won't be able to do it for you at all, or you have to pay $150 for each single "Title Seach" done. $150 dollars each when there are literally hundreds of properties you need to reseach at a time to determine if you should bid or not. This is not possible. So basically, the county can't or won't want to tell you about the title of the properties, you need to be local and research hundreds of public records, or a title company will do it but will charge you a sizeable fee for each one you want done. When there are hundreds you need to be doing at one time, this is not something you can do or afford. 8. All of the properties sold on Bid4Assets end up selling for very high prices. I'm talking tens of thosands of dollars each. You are competing with every other bidder who knows about this site, and every property will and do get bid up way past your budget anyway. 9. All the decent properties get bid up well into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's far from pennies on the dollar as you where told in the infomercial.


Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.
More on the bogus coaching sold by John Beck and Mentoring of America, and why it's not all it's cracked up to be.

#3Consumer Suggestion

Fri, September 08, 2006

After being denied a refund many times by Mentoring of America, I just went ahead and finished all 10 coaching calls and recorded them on tape for future reference. I'm going to summarize what I was instructed to do by a Mentoring of America coach in ten weekly, 30 minute coaching calls, and why it's not what they tell you it is. You cannot buy houses for a few hundred dollars or even a few thousand dollars like the infomercial. THE COACHING PROGRAM IN SUMMARY It's basically this: Buy land off Bid4Assets.com and then sell it on Ebay. Try to borrow the money from your family first, then a bank or credit card if that does not work. 1. The main focus of the entire coaching program was to simply to direct me to go to a free public website called Bid4Assets.com. It's a website where forclosed and reposessed property is sold off. In this site, there is a tax sale section. They told me to go there, register for free, and bid on tax sale properties that different states and counties auction off there every few months. These are either undesireable peices of land or homes in wrecked condition that the county has taken from the owners for not paying taxes, debts, ect and is selling off here online. I was supposed to buy land for cheap here, and then immediately turn right around and sell it on Ebay for a profit. 2. They told me to use a "Sniping" technique to bid on these properties. This means waiting to throw in my bid only at the last possible minutes or seconds before the auction ends. Just like people do on Ebay. This technique is used to avoid a bidding war with the current high bidder, and give him no time to come back with a higher bid than yours. 3. They told me to call the state's county that is auctioning these properties to do a "Title Seach" on each one listed, to see if I should bid on it or not. This means finding out if there are any unpaid debts, liens, mortgages, ect. attached to the properity from the previous owner. You need to know this, because once you buy the property, you legally inherit any unpaid debts, liens, or mortgages from the previous owner that you did not know about. THE PROBLEMS AND WHY BID4ASSETS DOES NOT WORK I did everything I was told and this was my personal experince after several months of work: 1. It's extremely time consuming to make a list of all potential properties, call each county to determine it's value, it's phycical location, description, and it's title history before bidding. You need to do all this for each property before you decide to bid on anything. 2. Every county/state that was selling land on Bid4Assets that I called over the phone, told me that their laws say that I as the new owner, would have to own and pay tax on the property for at least 1 year before I could sell it off to someone else. I was supposed to be buying this land and then immediately turning around and sell it on Ebay like the coach told me. The county told me I had to own it a full year and pay taxes on it before I could sell it to anyone. You also must pay the entire default tax ammount (the ammount of tax the previous owner has not paid) the property has on top of the ending auction price. Just getting the title to your name takes several months in some states after you win and buy it. Then you have to own it for a whole year before you can sell it. 3. Bid4Assets used to be free to be able to bid in the tax sale section. But a good while back, they changed that. Now you have to put down an up front deposit of about $4,500 just to be able to bid on any of these properties. It's still like this today. 4. Bid4Assets did not like people using a "Sniping" bid technique. The eliminated your ability to do this by making a change to the auction's end time. Now, the auction will not end on the end time shown, only untill 5 full minutes pass with no bid activities. So now the "Sniping" technique they teach you won't work and can't be used at all. Everything gets bid up. 5. Doing a "Title Seach" on the properties before you bid on them is not possible or will cost you a lot of money to do. 6. Every county/state that I called who was autioning off property on Bid4Assets that I was looking to bid on was not local to me. Either out of state of far away. I called all the different counties/states by phone just like I was told to do for a "Title Seach" on the properties. Each state has it's own rules and laws. But they all either told me they have no way of telling me if there are any any unpaid debts on the titles of their properties listed on Bid4Assets that I would inherit and take over. Or they told me that the only way I could find that out is to walk into the local recorder's office and pull the property files personally. They told me that you can't do that if you don't live there, and they can't tell you this information over the phone anyway. I then told the person that they are basically auctioning off other people's debts and problems for someone else to inherit. That they don't provide a way for people to know about anything on the title they will inherit from the previous owner. 7. If you call a title company in the same county were the properties are to do your "Title Seaches", and give them the parcel numbers of the properites, they either won't be able to do it for you at all, or you have to pay $150 for each single "Title Seach" done. $150 dollars each when there are literally hundreds of properties you need to reseach at a time to determine if you should bid or not. This is not possible. So basically, the county can't or won't want to tell you about the title of the properties, you need to be local and research hundreds of public records, or a title company will do it but will charge you a sizeable fee for each one you want done. When there are hundreds you need to be doing at one time, this is not something you can do or afford. 8. All of the properties sold on Bid4Assets end up selling for very high prices. I'm talking tens of thosands of dollars each. You are competing with every other bidder who knows about this site, and every property will and do get bid up way past your budget anyway. 9. All the decent properties get bid up well into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's far from pennies on the dollar as you where told in the infomercial.


Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.
More on the bogus coaching sold by John Beck and Mentoring of America, and why it's not all it's cracked up to be.

#4Consumer Suggestion

Fri, September 08, 2006

After being denied a refund many times by Mentoring of America, I just went ahead and finished all 10 coaching calls and recorded them on tape for future reference. I'm going to summarize what I was instructed to do by a Mentoring of America coach in ten weekly, 30 minute coaching calls, and why it's not what they tell you it is. You cannot buy houses for a few hundred dollars or even a few thousand dollars like the infomercial. THE COACHING PROGRAM IN SUMMARY It's basically this: Buy land off Bid4Assets.com and then sell it on Ebay. Try to borrow the money from your family first, then a bank or credit card if that does not work. 1. The main focus of the entire coaching program was to simply to direct me to go to a free public website called Bid4Assets.com. It's a website where forclosed and reposessed property is sold off. In this site, there is a tax sale section. They told me to go there, register for free, and bid on tax sale properties that different states and counties auction off there every few months. These are either undesireable peices of land or homes in wrecked condition that the county has taken from the owners for not paying taxes, debts, ect and is selling off here online. I was supposed to buy land for cheap here, and then immediately turn right around and sell it on Ebay for a profit. 2. They told me to use a "Sniping" technique to bid on these properties. This means waiting to throw in my bid only at the last possible minutes or seconds before the auction ends. Just like people do on Ebay. This technique is used to avoid a bidding war with the current high bidder, and give him no time to come back with a higher bid than yours. 3. They told me to call the state's county that is auctioning these properties to do a "Title Seach" on each one listed, to see if I should bid on it or not. This means finding out if there are any unpaid debts, liens, mortgages, ect. attached to the properity from the previous owner. You need to know this, because once you buy the property, you legally inherit any unpaid debts, liens, or mortgages from the previous owner that you did not know about. THE PROBLEMS AND WHY BID4ASSETS DOES NOT WORK I did everything I was told and this was my personal experince after several months of work: 1. It's extremely time consuming to make a list of all potential properties, call each county to determine it's value, it's phycical location, description, and it's title history before bidding. You need to do all this for each property before you decide to bid on anything. 2. Every county/state that was selling land on Bid4Assets that I called over the phone, told me that their laws say that I as the new owner, would have to own and pay tax on the property for at least 1 year before I could sell it off to someone else. I was supposed to be buying this land and then immediately turning around and sell it on Ebay like the coach told me. The county told me I had to own it a full year and pay taxes on it before I could sell it to anyone. You also must pay the entire default tax ammount (the ammount of tax the previous owner has not paid) the property has on top of the ending auction price. Just getting the title to your name takes several months in some states after you win and buy it. Then you have to own it for a whole year before you can sell it. 3. Bid4Assets used to be free to be able to bid in the tax sale section. But a good while back, they changed that. Now you have to put down an up front deposit of about $4,500 just to be able to bid on any of these properties. It's still like this today. 4. Bid4Assets did not like people using a "Sniping" bid technique. The eliminated your ability to do this by making a change to the auction's end time. Now, the auction will not end on the end time shown, only untill 5 full minutes pass with no bid activities. So now the "Sniping" technique they teach you won't work and can't be used at all. Everything gets bid up. 5. Doing a "Title Seach" on the properties before you bid on them is not possible or will cost you a lot of money to do. 6. Every county/state that I called who was autioning off property on Bid4Assets that I was looking to bid on was not local to me. Either out of state of far away. I called all the different counties/states by phone just like I was told to do for a "Title Seach" on the properties. Each state has it's own rules and laws. But they all either told me they have no way of telling me if there are any any unpaid debts on the titles of their properties listed on Bid4Assets that I would inherit and take over. Or they told me that the only way I could find that out is to walk into the local recorder's office and pull the property files personally. They told me that you can't do that if you don't live there, and they can't tell you this information over the phone anyway. I then told the person that they are basically auctioning off other people's debts and problems for someone else to inherit. That they don't provide a way for people to know about anything on the title they will inherit from the previous owner. 7. If you call a title company in the same county were the properties are to do your "Title Seaches", and give them the parcel numbers of the properites, they either won't be able to do it for you at all, or you have to pay $150 for each single "Title Seach" done. $150 dollars each when there are literally hundreds of properties you need to reseach at a time to determine if you should bid or not. This is not possible. So basically, the county can't or won't want to tell you about the title of the properties, you need to be local and research hundreds of public records, or a title company will do it but will charge you a sizeable fee for each one you want done. When there are hundreds you need to be doing at one time, this is not something you can do or afford. 8. All of the properties sold on Bid4Assets end up selling for very high prices. I'm talking tens of thosands of dollars each. You are competing with every other bidder who knows about this site, and every property will and do get bid up way past your budget anyway. 9. All the decent properties get bid up well into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's far from pennies on the dollar as you where told in the infomercial.


Reid

Aiea,
Hawaii,
U.S.A.
ATTENTION ALL LATE NIGHT TELEVISION VIEWERS!!!

#5Consumer Suggestion

Fri, September 08, 2006

Aloha Everyone, WARNING: John Beck has a new Infomercial. This Piece of $h!t result of incest is running the same scam, but using a newly produced Infomercial. His program along with all the other inbreeds claiming to be mentoring total strangers to wealth for the amount of "available credit" on their credit cards are scams and it's not just a matter of opinion. NO! NO! NO! John Beck is NOT going to show you how to obtain properties for pennies on the dollar and resell them for thousands in profits for what you're able to scrounge up on your credit cards. If it were as easy as these fraudsters claim, they'd be doing it themselves and they wouldn't be selling "how to" programs to complete strangers for anything less than the "earning potential" they claim possible. DO NOT CALL THE TOLL FREE NUMBER PROVIDED ON THEIR FRAUDULENT INFOMERCIAL. IT'S A SCAM!!! Take care Everyone and God Bless. P.S. If you see this 75 year old punk on the steet, feel free to break his a$$ for attempting to "extort" monies from you.


Anonymus

Southern,
California,
U.S.A.
Matt, do you have an update for us?

#6Consumer Suggestion

Wed, September 06, 2006

Matt, First off, I want to personally thank you. I can't thank you enough really. Because of you Matt, I learned about the consumer complaint form with the Utah Division of Consumer Protection. You are the only person I ever saw post this much important document. I never knew about it before. After going at it with Mentoring of America for about 2 years, this complaint was the one that got me all my money back, and fast. More than $7,000. Since that time, I've posted many replies telling people about this important complaint form, how to fill it out, ect. There have been numerous people just in the last 5 weeks or so get a full refund from Mentoring of America. Others are now pending a refund and just wating for it in the mail. Matt, can you give us an update on your situation? Your situation is the highest price I've seen reported on this site. It makes me sick to see such a huge variation in price people have paid for the same John Beck coaching program. Anywhere from $1,500 to $15,000. All based on one's credit limit or finance. Matt, Here's a news report video on the lawsuits against Mentoring of America in Utah in case you have not seen it. www.wkrc.com/mediacenter/?videoId=10945=9 Since that news report aired, they have been facing more legal lawsuits. In fact, they are under new lawsuits right now.

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