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  • Report:  #624046

Complaint Review: Karen hanover - seal beach California

Reported By:
THE ONE TO GET THE MONEY BACK - Seal beach, California, United States of America
Submitted:
Updated:

Karen hanover
seal beach, California, United States of America
Phone:
949-510-5321
Web:
http://commercialinvestmenteducation.com/
Categories:
Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
copied from Duncan Wiermans Blog

http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/






I saw on your blog that you were not supporting Karen Hanovers launch and the overall lack of due diligence. Ha. A couple of months ago I did some due diligence on her  after hearing her speak at a conference here in San Diego in January. Your intuition was dead-on.



The associations  Karen Hanover  touts as being a member of CCREA NAIA (and the self storage one SSEI?) are all her own creation.  In February she had the balls to create a press release to tout how the CCREA had awarded her real estate course its #1 ranking! I love tenacity and perseverance, but fraud is disgusting and seeing how there are so many dubious characters in this business, it just bugs me.



Anyway I sent an email to Sperry Van Nesss Human Resources department and got back the enclosed email. According to SVN she has never worked there and their attorneys are looking into it. ))) I have not called Marcus & Millichap.



Your points on the blog are so well taken. Everybody signs up and does the birddog routine but the gurus cant or dont want to do all the deals and thus cherry-pick the list. Rick Wheat who with Jeff Kaller are doing their scandalous bird dog system told me back in 2005 when he was Ron Legrands acquisition head that in that year they looked at over 1100 deals submission and actually closed on 14. So you would have to submit 80 deals of average quality before expecting to do one. I dont think the normal man on the street has put this math together, but you did in your blog and I thank you for getting the word out to the masses.





6 Updates & Rebuttals

Cross & Associates

United States of America
Cross & Assoc. NOT accepting cases against Hanover

#2Consumer Comment

Mon, March 28, 2011

Contrary to what has been posted, Law Offices of Edward H. Cross & Associates in Palm Desert CA is NOT accepting cases against
Commercial Investment Education or Karen Hanover.  We advise you to contact your local bar association for a referral to a qualified civil litigator in your jurisdiction.


Bryan Ellis is nothing but a scam a

Las Vegas,
Nevada,
United States of America
Karen Hanover Arrested by FBI

#3Consumer Comment

Tue, March 01, 2011

Fraudulent real estate "guru", Karen Elaine Hanover, arrested by the FBI.

http://losangeles.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel11/la021011.htm

FBI issued a press release yesterday asking anyone who is a victim to Karen

Hanover or her Fast Track program or any of her bootcamp victims please

step forward and discuss the matter and file your complaint with them.

There is now a hotline set up for her and all her victims at

310-477-6565.

Karen Hanover's attorney and Karen claims that Karen only operated a

"service" and Karen claims that she was never going to partner with

anyone on deals. Karen's attorney can also face criminal charges for

knowingly supporting a fraud.

http://duncanwierman.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/karen-hanover-fbi-compliant.pdf


Duncan Wierman

Greenville,
South Carolina,
United States of America
Reply to Karen Hanover

#4General Comment

Wed, November 03, 2010

Karen Hanover made this reply comment because I am the one who originally exposed her scam. You can read this on my blog as noted in this topic thread.

The whoisduncanwierman.wordpress.com blog was shut down by my legal team since it was full of lies and she also violated copyright, trademark, and other items under the wordpress terms of service.

I am defending my students to help them get their money back.

I do not compete with Karen Hanover, as I do not teach commercial real estate. 

I am a real estate investor and educator who wants to clean up the guru industry of the hype. People like Karen Hanover are ruining the industry and is hurting many people by robbing them of their life savings, kids college funds, etc. She makes big promises, but simply does not deliver.  Her numerous lies are just to big to be left alone. She does not have the credentials as she states to even come close to providing a quality service.

Karen Hanover has a personal vendetta against me for bringing her to the attention of the authorities.

Please do your research before you invest in any real estate program.

Yours in success
Duncan Wierman


THE ONE TO GET THE MONEY BACK

United States of America
Respond To Karen Hanover

#5Author of original report

Mon, September 13, 2010

Karen Hanover


You are right. People should not believe what they read about you as you write all about your self. NONE of your credentials exist..YOU are FAKE, PHYSCO person that has NO dignity . You are FULL of BS and you have nothing to show for. Public records speak the truth. You have 7 foreclosures and you should go back to selling cookies.

YOU ARE THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH HANDS DOWN. I am not Duncan and he is not your competition.

Karen Hanover is a THIEF. People like you are written off society as NON existing. You wont last long stealing peoples money. NO ONE DOES

You have been uncovered and you are just a LOnley, Nasty old Hag that is a THIEF... You cant get fake and bake whn you go to prison and you cant hide your age you old b***h.

SCUM BAG is you. If you open up a dictionary they have your picture right next to the word! THIEF that you are...

You are ar from being any thing you claim to be...you are all FAKE



KarenHanover

United States of America
You've Been Scammed by Duncan Wierman

#6REBUTTAL Individual responds

Mon, September 06, 2010

Don't believe everything you read online especially if it's from some competitor's blog.  Anyone can post anything, anywhere about anyone.  It's the new world order. 

Go to karenhanover.com to see evidence to the contrary including the Sperry Van Ness letter posted here.

Go to whoisduncanwierman.wordpress.com to read more about the REAL scam artist perpetuating these lies.


Bryan Ellis is nothing but a scam a

Las Vegas,
Nevada,
United States of America
Karen Hanover is total Scam artist, Fraud, rip off!! Must stop this individual from cheating, liying, and taking money from people!!!

#7Consumer Comment

Wed, August 04, 2010

KAREN HANOVER IS NOTHING BUT A SCAM ARTIST. Her bootcamps offer some good content, but it is all a front to get you to sign up for her mentoring program. She promises weekly phone calls, special online content, free access to resources on her web site, monthly assignment topics, personal access to her and her coaches, etc. SHE DELIVERS NOTHING!!!  I filed complaints to BBB and attorney generals office as well as dispute with credit card company. I had all the things she prented and communication log to prove that she was such a scam. I was lucky enough to get my money back for her coaching thing. Karen Hanover and her staffs never communicat fairly. Poeple, stay away from her!!!!! I wish I could know better finding the post like this earlier. I got my money back from coaching program, and only wish I also get my money back from bootcamp. I know that is a long shot, but I want people to be aware of this scam artist. It was such a hussle to fight back ang get my hard earned money! People, go to your local authorities, lawyers, BBB FTC, Attorney Generals
office consumer affairs in CA. We have to shut this scam artist down!

To all of you that feel you were scammed, contact your credit card company for a refund. If enough people ask for a refund that will help to stop future scams. She is either delusional or is Beyond FRAUD and screwing people means nothing and she thinks she is just gonna screw everyone and get a way with it.

Victims of Fraud and Misrepresentation and people who feel they have been cheated and lied by Karen E Hanover (Commercial Investment Education) please contact the attorneys office of Edward Cross.
LAW OFFICES OF EDWARD H. CROSS & ASSOCIATES, PC
72-980 Fred Waring Drive, Suite C
Palm Desert, CA 92260-2898
Tel.: 760 773-4002 / 949 789-7800
Fax: 760 406-5979
http://www.edcross.com

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