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  • Report:  #427927

Complaint Review: Kool Alaskan Malamutes - Lyons Michigan

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- Harrison Township, Michigan,
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Kool Alaskan Malamutes
2311 Divine Hwy. Lyons, 48851 Michigan, U.S.A.
Phone:
989-855-2779
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I obtained an older puppy from Kool Alaskan Malamutes in June, 2008. She was being offered "free" to a good home. I contacted Kool to inquire about her. I was told she displayed some evidence of 'same sex' aggression. I have lived with all female Mals for 17 years and wanted to give her a try in my home if she did well upon meeting my female I already had. I supplied my adoption application along with my vet references and was approved for the adoption. The day before I went to pick her up, I was told by the breeder that she had a red and white male she'd give me that she thought would do better in my home. I explained that I was not interested in the male and would still like to see the female. All of my suggestions on how to introduce the two dogs were nixed by the breeder. I was told, "either they'll get along, or they won't."

I, like Dawn, also never met the breeder, it was her teenaged children that brought her to me. The puppy was very sweet, licking and kissing my whole family like she'd always known us. She even played with our female, both rolling over on their backs. I did notice, however, that she never carried her tail over her back like a Malamute should. When I asked what was up with her tail, I was told that was just how she carried it. We agreed to take the puppy.

Upon arriving home, I had a very difficult time getting the puppy in the house. It wasn't until I went to feed her, her tail curled between her legs and she showed extreme aggression to my other Malamute. I took my other dog out of the house and proceeded to feed the puppy at which time, she bolted the food down, choking on it like she was afraid someone else would get it. I put her in a crate for the night to sleep and the following morning, she became possessive of that growling at my other dog with her tail wrapped between her legs the whole time. If my children went to pet the other dog, she'd also growl at the other dog. Basically, she started guarding all of her resources.

I contacted the breeder to see if she could give me information on the puppy before I got her, things like her position in the litter. I told the breeder that the puppy seemed to be overly possessive. I was told by the breeder that through their experience with the dogs, they were known to be possessive and that her position in the litter did not matter.

Walking with the puppy and my neighbors male dogs was also met with many problems. She'd go into attack mode with her tail between her legs upon meeting them and once she got used to walking with them, if she'd see another dog not part of our group, she lunge out at the dog walking closest to her.

It took well over a monthof working with her before she'd carry her tail over her back showing confidence and was closer to 3 months before she understood she did not have to guard her resources from my other dog. She still eats more quickly than I'd like to see but I'm somewhat confident she won't die from bloat taking in air while bolting her food.

I do not believe these dogs are well socialized or that the breeder has the knowledge to produce and care for as many puppies as she does.

Lori

Harrison Township, Michigan

U.S.A.


30 Updates & Rebuttals

Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
USA
Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, involved in starving and abusing dogs to frame other breeders. Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, and Kiskakon Malamute

#2REBUTTAL Owner of company

Wed, December 09, 2009

 

Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, involved in starving and abusing dogs to frame other breeders. Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, and Kiskakon Malamutes located in Allen, MI, and owned by Dawn McClellan are trying to ruin other breeders' businesses:

In September 2008, Kool Alaskan Malamutes came into the knowledge that Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, was involved in starving and abusing dogs to frame other breeders for grudges that she held against these breeders. She possibly also did this to put these breeders out of business so that she could gain the entire Alaskan Malamute market. Jolene Houghtaling published starved and abused dog pictures on the internet stating that these other breeders did this. Jolene Houghtaling also spread the word around to stay away from buying from certain breeders. A number of Alaskan Malamutes breeders went out of business due to this tactic of Jolene Houghtaling.

Dawn McClellan, owner of Kiskakon Malamutes located in Allen, MI, is now helping Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, ruin other breeders' businesses.

Kool Alaskan Malamutes stuck up for one of these breeders in October 2008 that Jolene Houghtaling framed with starved and abused pictures. Jolene Houghtaling then had her lawyer shut down our website. Jolene Houghtaling then had Wildpaw Malamute forum members write Ripoff Reports and other bad reviews against us in the beginning of 2009. Then, Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, served lawsuits on other breeders with the false witness of Dawn McClellan, owner of Kiskakon Malamutes located in Allen, MI, to get back at these breeders. Both Jolene Houghtaling and Dawn McClellan lied under oath at one of the lawsuits.

Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, also is using domain names for Cascade Alaskan Malamutes and Wakon Alaskan Malamutes in order to get puppy buyers to come to her rather than go to them. This is unethical and shady.


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
USA
BEWARE of the various Alaskan Malamute breed clubs, forums, and breeders such as the Alaskan Malamute Club of America (AMCA), Wildpaw Malamute forum, Golden Years Malamute Rescue, and Hudson's Malamut

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tue, December 01, 2009

BEWARE of the various Alaskan Malamute breed clubs, forums, and breeders such as the Alaskan Malamute Club of America (AMCA), Wildpaw Malamute forum, Golden Years Malamute Rescue, and Hudson's Malamutes & Huskies owned by Jolene Houghtaling:


BEWARE of the supporting, joining, and buying puppies from the members/owners of the various Alaskan Malamute breed clubs and forums such as the Alaskan Malamute Club of America (AMCA), Wildpaw Malamute forum, Golden Years Malamute Rescue, and Hudson's Malamutes & Huskies owned by Jolene Houghtaling.  They have been and/or are involved in one and/or more of the following unethical practices:
 

1.  Bashing other breeders.
 
2.  Publishing and speaking lies about other breeders.
  
3.  Feeding the dogs in their care less than quality dog food because they did not and/or do not have the money to buy quality dog food.

4.  Member(s) dumping Malamutes in kill shelters.

5.  Members posting slanderous reviews and reports about other breeders.
 
6.  Taking steps to destroy the businesses of other breeders.

7.  Publishing lies about their dogs' weights to sell their puppies.

8.  Hounding and stalking other breeders.

9.  Using the domain names of other breeders to get their business.

10.  Telling people that they come into contact with to stay away from buying puppies from certain breeders.

11.  Telling people that they come into contact with that their Malamutes are better than other breeders' Malamutes.

12.  Knowingly breeding Malamutes with hip dysplasia.


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, involved in starving and abusing dogs to frame other breeders.

#4REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, November 09, 2009

 

Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, involved in starving and abusing dogs to frame other breeders.

In September 2008, Kool Alaskan Malamutes came into the knowledge that Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudsons Malamutes & Huskies, was involved in starving and abusing dogs to frame other breeders for grudges that she held against these breeders. She possibly also did this to put these breeders out of business so that she could gain the entire Alaskan Malamute market. Jolene Houghtaling published starved and abused dog pictures on the internet stating that these other breeders did this. Jolene Houghtaling also spread the word around to stay away from buying from certain breeders. A number of Alaskan Malamutes breeders went out of business due to this tactic of Jolene Houghtaling.

Kool Alaskan Malamutes stuck up for one of these breeders in October 2008 that Jolene Houghtaling framed with starved and abused pictures. Jolene Houghtaling then had her lawyer shut down our website. Jolene Houghtaling then had Wildpaw Malamute forum members write Ripoff Reports and other bad reviews against us in the beginning of 2009.

Jolene Houghtaling also is using domain names for Cascade Alaskan Malamutes and Wakon Alaskan Malamutes in order to get puppy buyers to come to her rather than go to them. This is unethical and shady.


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Not only are Wildpaw Malamute forum members saying terrible things about Kool Alaskan Malamutes, but their own members are dumping Malamutes in animal shelters to be killed.

#5REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sun, October 11, 2009

Not only are Wildpaw Malamute forum members saying terrible things about Kool Alaskan Malamutes, but their own members are dumping Malamutes in animal shelters to be killed:

Kh6 Jefferson U.S.A. there's some false information...

Devil's Advocate: I'd rather not drag the name of the forum on here but the forum is the first one that comes up when you google "malamute forum". I've been a member for 9 years (even prior to the new format) and I'm not sure why your browser would alert to a problem. Contrary to what has been posted, bashing a particular kennel (using names) publicly is forbidden. We do however have posts about what to look for in a breeder, decoding breeder websites, etc. There are a few people on the forum who have purchased dogs from the Kools. One of them discovered this site and since the people know each other from the forum having had similar experiences, they let the others know about it. Nothing more, nothing less, not driven by any outside breeder, etc. I'm not directly affected by any of this but I know the people involved and have seen the posts on the forum, discussing their problems and looking for help resolving them. As a breeder, the "evil" AMCA kind, I would question some of what has been said in the various rebuttals and would love to go to town pointing out everything that doesn't make sense but it's not my fight. In this case I think both parties share responsibility, one took on a dog with likely same sex problems, the other allowed it to happen.

 

Kh6 Jefferson U.S.A.

Not sure where that came from or the relevance... For starters, this breeder is not being bashed on the forum. It is not allowed. I believe anyone who wishes to read the posts on the forum are welcome to do so but you have to be a member to post. Feel free to do a search, there are no posts bashing this breeder. Some of the people filing reports are on the forum but there are over 700 members from all over the world--the malamute world is a small one and given the number of litters produced by this kennel, big surprise that some of their puppy people found the forum and joined. We have pet people, show people, working people, breeders, and rescue people on there. It's irrelevant where the administrator is from. He maintains the forum from a technical standpoint and doesn't participate in discussions--I'm not even sure if he owns malamutes. The moderator is the one who polices the forum and mentioning breeders by name in a negative light is forbidden and may get you expelled from the forum. It's not quite the conspiracy you want it to be.

 

Doris Chesapeake U.S.A.

The "Other" Forum I am the moderator of the Wildpaws Forum. I am the one responsible for making sure that our forum rules are followed. We do not allow any negative comments about a person, business, or product by name. I have done a thorough search of our site and Kool Alaskan Malamutes is not mentioned anywhere on our forum. With 700+ members, there are members who have purchased puppies from Kool's as well as many other kennels. The fact that they are members of our group does not make the Wildpaws Forum in any way involved in these Ripoff Reports. There is no mention of Ripoff Reports or getting together to file complaints against anyone. What our members do outside of the forum is their personal business and not linked to our forum. I do not want our forum drug into any conflicts outside of our group. We are not linked to any breeding kennel and do not sell puppies on our forum, so are not in competition with any breeding kennels. Since the Kool Alaskan Malamutes name is not posted anywhere on our forum, we are not involved in any way with any of the complaints filed. Please be careful about using names on a site like this, where the info can not be edited. Even if wrongly accused, the info can not be removed. Our forum is very careful to not post negative info about anyone by name to protect ourselves from legal issues and we expect others to do the same for us. Thank you

 

Wildpaw Malamute forum states that nothing negative is being said on their forum about Kool Alaskan Malamutes, but please read the following email excerpts from a Malamute rescue group and emails from a previous puppy buyer who is/was a part of Wildpaw Malamute forum. All email addresses have purposely been omitted. The name of the Malamute rescue worker has been also purposely omitted. Maybe nothing negative is being said on Wildpaw's forum itself about Kool Alaskan Malamutes, but the members of Wildpaw Malamute forum are clearly saying terrible things about Kool Alaskan Malamutes:

 

1. On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Britney Behling wrote:

"Hi Pat- Sargent is doing great, we love him to death. He is currently in Novice training, graduated from his puppy class with flying colors. He LOVES his sister and his favorite toys are balls, he has quite the accumulation of them at this point. (I have attached a couple pictures). We would love to find Sarge a playmate as his sister is getting a little older now and would much rather relax on the couch with us than run around and wrestle with Sarge. Unfortunately, we can only afford about 200-250 for another dog, so if you have any puppies that haven't found homes yet and their prices drop a little bit, it'd be great if you could let me know. Like I said, we would love to have a new puppy in the house. Thanks so much for your time.

Britney Behling"

 

On May 26, Britney wrote an email to the Malamute rescue stating that they had another male dog now, obviously adopted/bought after the February 22 email from Britney to us that is seen above.

 

2. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:41 PM wrote:

Please find below a message submitted on 2009-05-28 at 18:41

comments: "Hello- We have been contacted about a pup you sold (out of Power and Montana) that the owners have to "get rid of". I'd like to make arrangements for him to be returned to you. Please email me at your earliest convenience....this pup doesn't have much time. Thank you."

 

3. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Britney Behling wrote:

"Pat- After receiving Sarge from you, we joined Wildpaws Forum and heard terrible things about you, your family and your "puppymill" as most would call it. We were told not to expect you to take any sort of responsibility for any defaults in your dogs by not only other malamute owners, but by other breeders and by the Alaskan Malamute Rescue themselves. What would you have done, may I ask? Driven the 5 hours to come pick him up just to sell him to another family unaware of the temperment problems you knowingly breed into your poor animals? He has a severe aggressive reaction with other dogs in his home and we did what was best for him due to the dangerous situation we were presented with in our home. He will go to Alaskan Malamute Rescue and any family interested in adopting him will be informed of his aggression along with only being placed in a single dog home."

Sent from my iPhone

 

On May 28, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Kool Family wrote:

"Britney, Per your signed contract, you were required to contact us if you no longer wanted your Mal from us. Why did you "drop" him off at a rescue?

The Kools"

 

4. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:35 AM, wrote:

"I was contacted about a mal by DuPage County - area shelters often contact breed rescue about dogs at their facilities. We have him listed on our website as a potentially incoming dog (he is still at the County kill facility at present). We frequently help dogs from area shelters. Can you help him? As you know, rescue is a small network of volunteers. We don't have a kennel setup or anything like many breeders do. Please just let me know if you are able to help Sarge, I don't want to see him die."

 

So, this great Malamute rescue worker took HER time and HER gas money to rescue Sarge and drive him to us shortly after the above email, and Sarge JUST left us in October 2009 for his new home. Not only are Wildpaw Malamute forum members saying terrible things about Kool Alaskan Malamutes, but their own members are dumping Malamutes in animal shelters to be killed.

While Sarge was with us for over 4 months, he lived in wonderful peace with 2 other AKC purebred Malamutes even sharing with them open feeding 24 hours/day as well as the same water.   


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudson's Malamutes & Huskies, is unethical and is trying to ruin other breeders' businesses:

#6REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sat, October 10, 2009

Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudson's Malamutes & Huskies, is unethical and is trying to ruin other breeders' businesses:

1. Posting slanderous reviews and ads against other breeders.

2. Posting slanderous articles on her own website against other breeders.

3. Getting other people to post slanderous ads and reviews against other breeders.

4. Starving and abusing dogs to frame this on other breeders because Jolene was mad at these other breeders.

5. Is a friend of Wildpaw Malamute forum members. Wildpaw Malamute forum members are saying horrible things about Kool Alaskan Malamutes.

 

Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudson's Malamutes & Huskies, is also involved in unethical breeding practices:

1. Breeding dogs with hip dysplasia to get puppies from the lines of the dogs who have the hip dysplasia.

2. Using a cattle prod on her dogs when they dig out to teach them not to do it again. The proper thing to do is to cement under the fence so that they cannot dig out.

3. Has dogs that live together that fight to the extent of ripping each others ears off.

4. Lies about her dogs weights to sell her puppies.

5. Swindles Malamutes from unsuspecting owners to capture all of the Malamute bloodlines.


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
What a wonderful place to buy a puppy!!

#7

Thu, September 17, 2009

 

Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudson's Malamutes & Huskies, has committed crimes against other breeders:

1. Posting slanderous reviews and ads against other breeders.

2. Posting slanderous articles on her own website against other breeders.

3. Getting other people to post slanderous ads and reviews against other breeders.

4. Starving and abusing dogs to frame this on other breeders because Jolene was mad at these other breeders.

5. Is a friend of Wildpaw Malamute forum members. Wildpaw Malamute forum members are saying horrible things about Kool Alaskan Malamutes.

 

Jolene Houghtaling, owner of Hudson's Malamutes & Huskies is also involved in unethical breeding practices:

1. Breeding dogs with hip dysplasia to get puppies from the lines of the dogs who have the hip dysplasia.

2. Using a cattle prod on her dogs when they dig out to teach them not to do it again. The proper thing to do is to cement under the fence so that they cannot dig out.

3. Has dogs that live together that fight to the extent of ripping each others ears off.

4. Lies about her dogs weights to sell her puppies.


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
What a wonderful place to buy a puppy!!

#8

Tue, August 25, 2009

Wildpaw Malamute forum states that nothing negative is being said on their forum about Kool Alaskan Malamutes, but please read the following email excerpts from a Malamute rescue group and emails from a previous puppy buyer who is/was a part of Wildpaw Malamute forum. All email addresses have purposely been omitted. The name of the Malamute rescue worker has been also purposely omitted. Maybe nothing negative is being said on Wildpaw's forum itself about Kool Alaskan Malamutes, but the members of Wildpaw Malamute forum are clearly saying terrible things about Kool Alaskan Malamutes:

 

1. On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Britney Behling wrote:

"Hi Pat- Sargent is doing great, we love him to death. He is currently in Novice training, graduated from his puppy class with flying colors. He LOVES his sister and his favorite toys are balls, he has quite the accumulation of them at this point. (I have attached a couple pictures). We would love to find Sarge a playmate as his sister is getting a little older now and would much rather relax on the couch with us than run around and wrestle with Sarge. Unfortunately, we can only afford about 200-250 for another dog, so if you have any puppies that haven't found homes yet and their prices drop a little bit, it'd be great if you could let me know. Like I said, we would love to have a new puppy in the house. Thanks so much for your time.

Britney Behling"

 

On May 26, Britney wrote an email to the Malamute rescue stating that they had another male dog now, obviously adopted/bought after the February 22 email from Britney to us that is seen above.

 

2. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:41 PM wrote:

Please find below a message submitted on 2009-05-28 at 18:41 comments:

"Hello- We have been contacted about a pup you sold (out of Power and Montana) that the owners have to "get rid of". I'd like to make arrangements for him to be returned to you. Please email me at your earliest convenience....this pup doesn't have much time. Thank you."

 

3. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Britney Behling wrote:

"Pat- After receiving Sarge from you, we joined Wildpaws Forum and heard terrible things about you, your family and your "puppymill" as most would call it. We were told not to expect you to take any sort of responsibility for any defaults in your dogs by not only other malamute owners, but by other breeders and by the Alaskan Malamute Rescue themselves. What would you have done, may I ask? Driven the 5 hours to come pick him up just to sell him to another family unaware of the temperment problems you knowingly breed into your poor animals? He has a severe aggressive reaction with other dogs in his home and we did what was best for him due to the dangerous situation we were presented with in our home. He will go to Alaskan Malamute Rescue and any family interested in adopting him will be informed of his aggression along with only being placed in a single dog home."

Sent from my iPhone

On May 28, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Kool Family wrote:

"Britney, Per your signed contract, you were required to contact us if you no longer wanted your Mal from us. Why did you "drop" him off at a rescue?

The Kools"

 

4. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:35 AM, wrote:

"I was contacted about a mal by DuPage County - area shelters often contact breed rescue about dogs at their facilities. We have him listed on our website as a potentially incoming dog (he is still at the County kill facility at present). We frequently help dogs from area shelters. Can you help him? As you know, rescue is a small network of volunteers. We don't have a kennel setup or anything like many breeders do. Please just let me know if you are able to help Sarge, I don't want to see him die."

 

So, this great Malamute rescue worker took HER time and HER gas money to rescue Sarge and drive him to us shortly after the above email, and Sarge is STILL with us as of 8/23/09. Not only are Wildpaw Malamute forum members saying terrible things about Kool Alaskan Malamutes, but their own members are dumping Malamutes in animal shelters to be killed.


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Kool Malamutes...I'd buy from them again...

#9Consumer Comment

Sat, June 20, 2009

Submitted: 6/12/2009 11:09:28 AM Modified: 6/12/2009 11:28:27 AM Tim & Adele Ocean Springs, Mississippi U.S.A. Kool Malamutes...I'd buy from them again... I stumbled upon the Kool Malamutes accidently. I'm laying out the background for finding Kool's... I had purchased a 'malamute' from a Tennesee breader circa June 2004. Our buddy died quite suddenly just after his 4th birthday. He had always had health problems. However, he got the best vet treatment money and friendship can buy. He went from a healthy 150 pound malamute mix to a dead dog in 48 hours. We were stunned and our vets just as stunned and crushed as we were. He was loved by all and our vets always treated him as their own. Our grief was overwhelming. There was a huge hole in our lives. I was just surfing Mal sites and stumbled upon Kool's. They had some pups and some adult animals that looked just like a Mal-Sam mix I had for 13 years that was the predecessor of the Tennessee Mal. So I called the Kools and spoke briefly with Mr. Kool. He told me that I really needed to speak to Pat. Later on in the day, Pat Kool returned returned my call. I told her what had happened some 8 months prior, and that I was considering acquiring another Mal (actually one of her Sam-Mal mixes). She told me I needed to fill out her questionaire before we could speak about purchase. The questionaire was very thorough. I submitted it. Pat emailed me back with more questions she would like answered. I did that. She also wanted to speak with my vets if possible. I said sure and informed my vet that they would be receiving a call from a breeder concerning how we cared for our dogs. She did indeed contact my vets. I went through 3 grueling phone interviews with Pat. She apologized, but she wanted to know how her pups would fare with us. I thought about it and it occured to me that she was committed to placing her pups in the best of homes, and that they would receive the best care and love. She finally agreed to sell me a pup. I told her I wanted a Mal-Sam mix, preferably white with biscuit markings. She told me she had a litter coming around the first of December. We agreed on the price, I first in line for pick of the litter. I wired her the deposit and received a statement from her with in days. The litter arrived and Pat immediatly sent pictures of the pups feeding. I saw the one I wanted almost right away. Once a week she sent pictures and updates. She also provided me with the OFA certs for the daddy and mama. We spoke by phone at least once a week as well. Finally, it was time for Orvis to come home to the Mississippi Coast. Pat shipped Orvis to our local airport about 30 minutes away. Orvis arrived in a rather expensive crate, bedded in towels, clean, healthy, but just a tad dissoriented. He sat in my wife's lap with a heavy towel (ours) all the home...I might add he tried to slip into my lap as well. Orvis came into our home that he would share with two rescue dogs we have. He fit right in. He's 7 months old now. About 80 pounds, smart and sharp...A true joy and a wonderful puppy. He's almost magic.... We still stay in touch with the Kools and send them updated images and just chat. Pat Kool is a good and caring person. She is devoted, at least to us, and loves to hear how Orvis is doing. I have never known a breeder that showed so much concern. My wife and I are old enough to know that Orvis will be our last 'big dog'. However, I would highly reccomend Kool's to anyone that wants a good dog and a breeder that cares about her pups... Tim & Adele


Doris

Chesapeake,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
The "Other" Forum

#10Consumer Comment

Fri, April 03, 2009

I am the moderator of the Wildpaws Forum. I am the one responsible for making sure that our forum rules are followed. We do not allow any negative comments about a person, business, or product by name. I have done a thorough search of our site and Kool Alaskan Malamutes is not mentioned anywhere on our forum. With 700+ members, there are members who have purchased puppies from Kool's as well as many other kennels. The fact that they are members of our group does not make the Wildpaws Forum in any way involved in these Ripoff Reports. There is no mention of Ripoff Reports or getting together to file complaints against anyone. What our members do outside of the forum is their personal business and not linked to our forum. I do not want our forum drug into any conflicts outside of our group. We are not linked to any breeding kennel and do not sell puppies on our forum, so are not in competition with any breeding kennels. Since the Kool Alaskan Malamutes name is not posted anywhere on our forum, we are not involved in any way with any of the complaints filed. Please be careful about using names on a site like this, where the info can not be edited. Even if wrongly accused, the info can not be removed. Our forum is very careful to not post negative info about anyone by name to protect ourselves from legal issues and we expect others to do the same for us. Thank you


Kh6

Jefferson,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Not sure where that came from or the relevance...

#11Consumer Comment

Wed, April 01, 2009

For starters, this breeder is not being bashed on the forum. It is not allowed. I believe anyone who wishes to read the posts on the forum are welcome to do so but you have to be a member to post. Feel free to do a search, there are no posts bashing this breeder. Some of the people filing reports are on the forum but there are over 700 members from all over the world--the malamute world is a small one and given the number of litters produced by this kennel, big surprise that some of their puppy people found the forum and joined. We have pet people, show people, working people, breeders, and rescue people on there. It's irrelevant where the administrator is from. He maintains the forum from a technical standpoint and doesn't participate in discussions--I'm not even sure if he owns malamutes. The moderator is the one who polices the forum and mentioning breeders by name in a negative light is forbidden and may get you expelled from the forum. It's not quite the conspiracy you want it to be.


Kh6

Jefferson,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Not sure where that came from or the relevance...

#12Consumer Comment

Wed, April 01, 2009

For starters, this breeder is not being bashed on the forum. It is not allowed. I believe anyone who wishes to read the posts on the forum are welcome to do so but you have to be a member to post. Feel free to do a search, there are no posts bashing this breeder. Some of the people filing reports are on the forum but there are over 700 members from all over the world--the malamute world is a small one and given the number of litters produced by this kennel, big surprise that some of their puppy people found the forum and joined. We have pet people, show people, working people, breeders, and rescue people on there. It's irrelevant where the administrator is from. He maintains the forum from a technical standpoint and doesn't participate in discussions--I'm not even sure if he owns malamutes. The moderator is the one who polices the forum and mentioning breeders by name in a negative light is forbidden and may get you expelled from the forum. It's not quite the conspiracy you want it to be.


Kh6

Jefferson,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Not sure where that came from or the relevance...

#13Consumer Comment

Wed, April 01, 2009

For starters, this breeder is not being bashed on the forum. It is not allowed. I believe anyone who wishes to read the posts on the forum are welcome to do so but you have to be a member to post. Feel free to do a search, there are no posts bashing this breeder. Some of the people filing reports are on the forum but there are over 700 members from all over the world--the malamute world is a small one and given the number of litters produced by this kennel, big surprise that some of their puppy people found the forum and joined. We have pet people, show people, working people, breeders, and rescue people on there. It's irrelevant where the administrator is from. He maintains the forum from a technical standpoint and doesn't participate in discussions--I'm not even sure if he owns malamutes. The moderator is the one who polices the forum and mentioning breeders by name in a negative light is forbidden and may get you expelled from the forum. It's not quite the conspiracy you want it to be.


Kh6

Jefferson,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Not sure where that came from or the relevance...

#14Consumer Comment

Wed, April 01, 2009

For starters, this breeder is not being bashed on the forum. It is not allowed. I believe anyone who wishes to read the posts on the forum are welcome to do so but you have to be a member to post. Feel free to do a search, there are no posts bashing this breeder. Some of the people filing reports are on the forum but there are over 700 members from all over the world--the malamute world is a small one and given the number of litters produced by this kennel, big surprise that some of their puppy people found the forum and joined. We have pet people, show people, working people, breeders, and rescue people on there. It's irrelevant where the administrator is from. He maintains the forum from a technical standpoint and doesn't participate in discussions--I'm not even sure if he owns malamutes. The moderator is the one who polices the forum and mentioning breeders by name in a negative light is forbidden and may get you expelled from the forum. It's not quite the conspiracy you want it to be.


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
What a WONDERFUL place to purchase a Malamute!!

#15Consumer Comment

Wed, April 01, 2009

Wildpaw's Alaskan Malamutes Discussion Group: Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 21 Joined: 15-November 03 From: Austin, TX The administrator of the Malamute forum that likely all of these people are from that have made up ripoff reports against Kool Alaskan Malamutes is from Austin, TX.


Joe

Austin,
Texas,
U.S.A.
DO NOT BUY PUPPIES AND DOGS OFF OF THE INTERNET!

#16Consumer Comment

Tue, March 31, 2009

YOU NEED TO RESCUE PUPPIES FROM YOU LOCAL HUMANE SOCIETY. NOTHING WRONG WITH OLDER DOGS. THEY MAKE FABULOUS PETS AND YOU CAN BE SURE OF WHAT YOU ARE GETTING FOR REASONABLE PRICE! WHEN YOU BUY SIGHT UNSEEN YOU CAN FALL PREY TO THE CLASSIC NIGERIAN PET ADOPTION SCHEME OR GET SENT THE CULLS OF THE PUPPY MILL --- OR SICK PUPPIES YOU HAVE NO RECORD OF THEIR VACCINATIONS,ETC. do not buy dogs sight unseen off of the d**n internet! YOU ARE SETTING YOURSELF UP TO BE RIPPED OFF...AND YOU DESERVE IT. IF YOU HAVE TO BUY A PUPPY, BUY FROM A LOCAL BREEDER NOT SOME GUY HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT BUYING FROM A PUPPY MILL. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE TO SEE THE MOTHER AND THE FATHER. USE COMMON SENSE AND SAVE CENTS ( AND LOTS OF DOLLARS TOO) AND SHOP LOCAL AND $AVE!


Julia

Glen Cove,
New York,
U.S.A.
Positive Experience with Kool Alaskan Malamutes

#17Consumer Comment

Sun, March 29, 2009

I am writing because I want to make people aware of my positive experience with Kool Kennels. After recently losing my beloved husky/chow mix to a brain tumor (not purchased from Kool Alaskan Malamutes), I had been looking for a few months for a new addition to my family. Thankfully I stumbled across Kool Kennels on the internet and wrote to Pat Kool. She was very compassionate about my loss and incredibly helpful and thorough in questioning everything about me that would affect placement of one of her puppies in my home. I also felt very comfortable asking her questions and she responded within a day (usually within a few hours) of my many emails. Most people may have been frustrated with the 30+ emails, but not Pat, she was willing to answer all my questions and was especially accommodating. I asked to get the puppy at 7 weeks old, and she made special arrangements to bring the puppy in early to the vet so I could drive (from NY to Michigan) to pick up my puppy. That's right, I didn't want to wait 8 weeks to ship the puppy and it was very important to me that I find the right puppy that I could sense a bond with. Also, I have cats and I didn't want an older dog to think of them as prey. She said I could have pick of the litter, and remained true to her word. When I got to the Kennel, Jim Kool and his daughters greeted us warmly and brought out Bella (the mommy of the puppy we were strongly leaning towards). What a wonderful dog! She immediately came over to me and my father and was kissing us happily. She was clean, happy and very good natured and obviously well cared for. Then we were allowed to play with 2 puppies from squishy's litter. All white puppies who were also very clean, happy and taken care of. Jim answered all of our questions, offered to show us around and see the father of the puppy we were leaning towards. We were given plenty of time to make our decision and to just play with the puppies. Our puppy was given a bath and brought out to us swaddled in a towel and was the cutest thing EVER! She was so well behaved on the 12 hour ride home, I was amazed, there are people who are less well behaved in the car than that puppy. She's been home for a little while now, and already gets along great with my two cats. She's perfectly healthy and everyone who's seen her not only glows about how gorgeous she is, but just how sweet and loving she is. I have nothing but good things to say about Kool Kennels and my experience there. I'd like to add, I read the negative rip off reports right before I went to pick up my puppy and I was genuinely concerned if not terrified that I was going to walk into a puppy mill situation. Thankfully, that was NOT the case!!! People looking to purchase puppies from Kool Alaskan Malamutes should not be swayed by the negativity splashed all over this forum, I was just there and didn't see or experience anything negative at all. And after 12 hours in a car and having the posts on this site in the forefront of my brain I was hyper-vigilant about any poor treatment of animals or deplorable conditions I might encounter. In summation, I don't think anyone will be disappointed by getting a puppy from Kool Kennels. They are the most beautiful, happy, healthy and wonderful dogs and the conditions in which they were kept looked good to me. I am a huge animal rights advocate and I saw nothing but loving, caring dog owners in the Kools. In fact I'm definitely looking to get another puppy from them in the future since our puppy has already infused the house with so much joy and laughter. I can't speak for others, but personally, my experience was wonderful. I'm reminded of that and how thankful I am that I found them every time I see my little puppy's face.


Julia

Glen Cove,
New York,
U.S.A.
Positive Experience with Kool Alaskan Malamutes

#18Consumer Comment

Sun, March 29, 2009

I am writing because I want to make people aware of my positive experience with Kool Kennels. After recently losing my beloved husky/chow mix to a brain tumor (not purchased from Kool Alaskan Malamutes), I had been looking for a few months for a new addition to my family. Thankfully I stumbled across Kool Kennels on the internet and wrote to Pat Kool. She was very compassionate about my loss and incredibly helpful and thorough in questioning everything about me that would affect placement of one of her puppies in my home. I also felt very comfortable asking her questions and she responded within a day (usually within a few hours) of my many emails. Most people may have been frustrated with the 30+ emails, but not Pat, she was willing to answer all my questions and was especially accommodating. I asked to get the puppy at 7 weeks old, and she made special arrangements to bring the puppy in early to the vet so I could drive (from NY to Michigan) to pick up my puppy. That's right, I didn't want to wait 8 weeks to ship the puppy and it was very important to me that I find the right puppy that I could sense a bond with. Also, I have cats and I didn't want an older dog to think of them as prey. She said I could have pick of the litter, and remained true to her word. When I got to the Kennel, Jim Kool and his daughters greeted us warmly and brought out Bella (the mommy of the puppy we were strongly leaning towards). What a wonderful dog! She immediately came over to me and my father and was kissing us happily. She was clean, happy and very good natured and obviously well cared for. Then we were allowed to play with 2 puppies from squishy's litter. All white puppies who were also very clean, happy and taken care of. Jim answered all of our questions, offered to show us around and see the father of the puppy we were leaning towards. We were given plenty of time to make our decision and to just play with the puppies. Our puppy was given a bath and brought out to us swaddled in a towel and was the cutest thing EVER! She was so well behaved on the 12 hour ride home, I was amazed, there are people who are less well behaved in the car than that puppy. She's been home for a little while now, and already gets along great with my two cats. She's perfectly healthy and everyone who's seen her not only glows about how gorgeous she is, but just how sweet and loving she is. I have nothing but good things to say about Kool Kennels and my experience there. I'd like to add, I read the negative rip off reports right before I went to pick up my puppy and I was genuinely concerned if not terrified that I was going to walk into a puppy mill situation. Thankfully, that was NOT the case!!! People looking to purchase puppies from Kool Alaskan Malamutes should not be swayed by the negativity splashed all over this forum, I was just there and didn't see or experience anything negative at all. And after 12 hours in a car and having the posts on this site in the forefront of my brain I was hyper-vigilant about any poor treatment of animals or deplorable conditions I might encounter. In summation, I don't think anyone will be disappointed by getting a puppy from Kool Kennels. They are the most beautiful, happy, healthy and wonderful dogs and the conditions in which they were kept looked good to me. I am a huge animal rights advocate and I saw nothing but loving, caring dog owners in the Kools. In fact I'm definitely looking to get another puppy from them in the future since our puppy has already infused the house with so much joy and laughter. I can't speak for others, but personally, my experience was wonderful. I'm reminded of that and how thankful I am that I found them every time I see my little puppy's face.


Kh6

Jefferson,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
there's some false information...

#19Consumer Comment

Sat, March 28, 2009

Devil's Advocate: I'd rather not drag the name of the forum on here but the forum is the first one that comes up when you google "malamute forum". I've been a member for 9 years (even prior to the new format) and I'm not sure why your browser would alert to a problem. Contrary to what has been posted, bashing a particular kennel (using names) publicly is forbidden. We do however have posts about what to look for in a breeder, decoding breeder websites, etc. There are a few people on the forum who have purchased dogs from the Kools. One of them discovered this site and since the people know each other from the forum having had similar experiences, they let the others know about it. Nothing more, nothing less, not driven by any outside breeder, etc. I'm not directly affected by any of this but I know the people involved and have seen the posts on the forum, discussing their problems and looking for help resolving them. As a breeder, the "evil" AMCA kind, I would question some of what has been said in the various rebuttals and would love to go to town pointing out everything that doesn't make sense but it's not my fight. In this case I think both parties share responsibility, one took on a dog with likely same sex problems, the other allowed it to happen.


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
A Wonderful Place To Purchase A Malamute!!

#20Consumer Comment

Sun, March 22, 2009

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:46 AM, April wrote: Hi there Pat! Hope all is well with you! Maya was weight at the vet last week at 66 pounds! A big girl... still so very happy and we love her so much! She just wants to talk English so bad... it so cute! I have included a photo of the two dogs playing tug of war. I couldn't believe I had my camera right there! Take care!! April


Lori

Harrison Township,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Response to (Me again)

#21Author of original report

Sun, March 22, 2009

I couldn't agree more that these dogs are not at all like the beloved Golden Retriever. A cute analogy is if you tell a golden to turn right, he will be so intent on pleasing, he'll turn and run right into the tree while a Malamute will wait for the clearing in the trees. I'm not insulting intelligence here, just trying to point out the difference in thinking One thing a lot of people fail to do when considering a breed of dog, is look at what the dog was originally bred to do. The Alaskan Malamute, along with the other Nordic breeds, are a working breed and very pack oriented, still maintaining their ancient instincts to think for themselves and do what they feel is in their best interest, even if it means disobeying the pack leader. Theirs is the will to survive and had to be for the harsh conditions they were bred for. In order to live with them in multiples, they must live very closely with their human pack. They are not a dog, just because they are suited for it, to live outside (not that I think any companion animal deserves that) and only have human contact when the human feels the need to pay attention to them. For success with these dogs, they must be included in all or as many aspects of family living and have their own jobs to do. The pack leader must be strong and worthy of the respect given by the subordinates (the dogs). They are not a dog for everyone or even many. I hope this helps with the education part on the breed. My motivation to post my complaint was seeing another allegation of possible short comings at the kennel, possibly, that mine was not a totally isolated incident and wondering if there would be any more. The internet can be a great resource for education provided all aspects are presented.


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
A wonderful place to purchase a Malamute! And, A wonderful family pet!

#22REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sat, March 21, 2009

A wonderful place to purchase a Malamute! I found the Kool website on Puppyfind when I was shopping for a Giant Malamute for my son, who purchased a wonderful AKC giant male in November. In browsing the site, my husband saw Snow's gray male, 3/4 malamute and 1/4 samoyed, and he fell in love. Both puppies were flown to California, Maxx arriving with a rare 14 inches of snow. Our inquiries as to their progress, growth, temperament, shipping needs--were all addressed within hours at the most, often while I was still online, and the Kools worked with us every step of the way. Both puppies arrived in the California desert in excellent health. When I walk Maxx, drivers stop to ask where I acquired such a beautiful dog. I would not hesitate to purchase from the Kools based on email communications and photographs, wherever I lived. Linda R A wonderful family pet I found the Kool Alaskan Malamute website when I was searching for a breeder. I looked into a few breeders before deciding to purchase from the Kools. I chose them based on the following: 1. How well organized the website is 2. The Kool family history that is posted on the website 3. Group shots of the puppies, individual and updated pictures of the puppies 4. The lines of both parents 5. History of the adults along with assessments of their personalities 6. Pictures of where and how the dogs live 7. And most important my conversations with Pat Kool I purchased a puppy back in October 2007. Since I live in NY I was unable to go to Michigan to pick my puppy out myself. I spent a lot of time on the phone with Pat. I felt she was knowledgeable about all of the litters I was interested in. Pat was very helpful and friendly in helping me pick the puppy that was right for my family and budget. Pat was able to answerer any and all of the questions I had about the breed itself, the puppies, the parents, and the general health of all dogs involved. In 1 weeks time, while waiting for my puppy to arrival I was in touch with Pat through email the entire time. I never felt ignored or that she was unreachable. I received my puppy (Mya) on a Sunday. She seemed to be in good health, but still the very next day I took her to my own vet to be checked out. Per my vet she seemed to be in good health and I should have nothing to worry about. Before the first week ended I received a folder in the mail from the KOOLS containing proof of shots, when the next shots should be received, family history including pictures of her mom and dad, pictures of her litter and several shot of her from the time she was born till the time I received her, and general care instructions for her. I had her for about 6 months or so when she started to have some diarrhea a couple of times a week. I waited about two weeks then I contacted Pat through email to see if she could help. I received her response within a few hours she asked me a few question and requested I stop giving her any treats or table food for a few months. I followed her instructions and had no problems after that. When she was about 1 year old I resumed with the treats and the occasional table food and she has been fine. Just a sensitive puppy stomach I guess. I have had Mya for about 17 months now and she is a happy, healthy well mannered dog. She is extremely smart and learns everything I try to teach her within a few hours to a day or two. Never mind what she has learned all on her own. She has the sweetest personality and everyone she meets comments about it (even everyone at my vets office). I can't begin to tell you how many people stop me when I'm walking her or stop their cars to say how beautiful she is, and trust me, she is BEAUTIFUL!!! Over the past 17 months I have been in contact with Pat Kool on a regular basis, whether it is to send her pictures or ask a question. Pat always makes me feel like she's glad to hear from me. And after completing my end of the agreement by sending in the dog food labels, proof of vet care and her spaying, I received all the papers I was suppose to. I have read the two bad reviews on here and felt compelled to respond with my own experience with the Kool family. I will absolutely purchase another puppy from her hopefully someday soon. Sincerely a very happy customer Jean P On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:06 PM Hi Pat and family! Talon and I just wanted to send a little note to say hello and let you know that we are doing very well! Talon has his yearly physical in 2 weeks with his favorite dr! Dr Albin! He reminds Talon not to be so OCD when it comes to certain things! Talon is such a charm, he lights up my life in so many ways even though he can be quite fresh and devious sometimes (like his father!!) My mom says he is her worst nightmare but she always refers to him as "Grandma's boy" My dad just loves him they are best friends.............I am in school 4 nights a week now so he and my dad spend quality time together and they go for a walk every night. Talon knows when I bring my back pack downstairs its his and grandpas time and will go get his leash and cry at my dad until they go!!! I love him! Hope all is well! Write soon! Courtney and Talon Binnington dateSun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:24 PM Hey Kool family. We went on a road trip to Indiana to visit the Bass Pro Shop Saturday and took Samson to help him get used to chaos. He had the best day of his life! He charmed every person walking by and kissed so many kids we lost count. I gave him a bath that morning so he was all soft and fluffy. No one could believe that he just turned 7 months old. I don't know how big your boys usually are at this age, but he is guite large. He's also very well behaved and listens like an adult dog (most of the time). He just keeps getting more beautiful every day and we couldn't ask for a better temperament or personality. I think about a hundred people asked where we got him - don't see many Malamutes in our area. Well, I just wanted to brag on your baby a little bit. Hope you're all doing well. Jamey, Angela, Max and Samson KY


Devilsadvocate4education*just My Opinions*

Las Vegas,
Nevada,
U.S.A.
Me again

#23Consumer Comment

Fri, March 20, 2009

Hi Lori. I hope you understand my intention is not to defend Kool, I do in fact have some questions and some comments for them as well :-). There is always a question when so many reports go up all of the sudden and so close together. However, Kool's responses have actually negated the majority of those with their responses. There is a forum mentioned, is there a way to send me in the right direction? I keep finding one that my browser tells me to absolutely NOT go to, so I haven't and am having a difficult time locating this forum which is mentioned. With so little information and so many questions I haven't formed my own opinion yet (not that I'd purchase these breeds of hers as they are not a good fit for my household I'm just a very curious person I guess you could say and think that a view from the other side of the looking glass so to speak can come in handy). I see this site as an educational tool under most circumstances :-). I do understand your reasons for placing this report. I also have several questions that are raised by the reports. I get asked about breeds a lot and many of the things contained in these reports are things I am sure to tell anyone which might be considering this breed (aggression in many forms, dominance, prone to diarrhea in the first year or so, vocal, selective hearing and such ect.). What I did not want was for some person to come along and think these dogs are supposed to have the temperament and characteristics of a golden retriever :-). Kool, first you should be aware that responses are read into as much and sometimes more than the actual complaint. Posting your own testimonials and such usually has the OPOSITE effect than that which you may be trying to achieve. Now, you do seem to have a lot of dogs. Considering the breeds you have chosen, I DO have questions as to how you manage to set these pups (and therefore their new families) up for a better chance later in life. Is it ONLY the family which is involved or do you have volunteers or employees or anything? I also see rescues mentioned, and those usually entail additional time and work. Considering the personalities of these breeds, early socialization and establishing that the humans around them in general (each individual will also have to do this) are alpha (and that those positioned higher up in the pack disapprove of aggressive behavior) is a key step with this type of temperament and success later on. When you take into consideration the number of dogs and puppies and the impression that there is only a family of eight (I think mentioned on the site)involved in the care, how do you accomplish this? These dogs require special handling from the BEGINNING. Do you take any steps to provide a good foundation or do you believe that is the new family's responsibility? That's all for now :-). *just my opinions*


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Kool Alaskan Malamutes: A wonderful place to purchase a Malamute!!!

#24REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, March 20, 2009

Lori, You have crossed the line now from slandering Kool Alaskan Malamutes to slandering our 5 kids and what they spend and have spent their ENTIRE life doing. Our kids are OUTRAGED about your slanderous rip-off reports toward what they have dedicated their lives to. NO necessary words will be spared here now to defend ourselves as a family from your evil slanderous remarks and comments. To not post this rebuttal is to not back our kids in what they spend much of their day doing seven days per week. This is a FAMILY endeavor. Pat isn't the only one that makes up Kool Alaskan Malamutes. Pat has the privilege of meeting all puppy inquirers and puppy buyers on the phone and through emails. She spends hours on the phone and with emails and all waking moments involved in what we do here. AND, our kids have the privilege of meeting in person all that come that are interested in our puppies and adults. We each have our part to play in what we do here at Kool Alaskan Malamutes. Your slanderous degrading posts are scrutinized by us ALL here, not by just Pat. EACH of our FIVE kids spends many of their waking hours working with our dogs and puppies. One of your problems is that you speak from the perspective of a harried and wearied mother who needs to keep up with all of the bad schooling environment that surrounds your kids DAILY while they are in a traditional school setting that is saturated with all of the evils that you spend hours each day combating. Unlike home-schooled kids, you need to volunteer at your kids' school, like you either told Pat in an email or on the phone, to help compensate for the evil that school kids encounter daily while at school. Traditional schools are so highly inefficient with their methods that your kids spend hours at school every day and with homework after school trying to learn amongst 30 other kids with ONLY ONE teacher present per class while at the same time being influenced and tugged back and forth with every passing fancy that is popular at the time. The simple math is, Lori, that this is untrue of home schools as can be seen from the excerpt from the following article by Gradua Networks: "Many families are turning to home schooling as the solution to the decaying public school system. However, home schooling is not a new idea. Until the early 1900's, home education was the predominant form of education in our country. As more and more people become aware of the advantages of home schooling, the number of home schoolers continues to swell. ...one-to-one instruction by parents is far more efficient than in institutional schools. As a result, home schoolers only need to spend half as much time receiving formal instruction than publicly educated students. Furthermore, not only can home schoolers compete academically, but they excel. Generally, they perform well above average." FYI: Title: Alaskan Malamute Dog Breed Info and Tips Author: unstated "The Alaskan Malamute is also very possessive when it comes to food, so feeding should be separate from other dogs or animals." by Michele Welton Title: Alaskan Malamutes What's good about 'em What's bad about 'em "If you don't want to deal with... Animal aggression. Most Alaskan Malamutes will not tolerate another dog of the same sex, and some won't tolerate the opposite sex either. Extreme possessiveness of food -- children and other animals should not approach an Alaskan Malamute who is eating. An Alaskan Malamute may not be right for you." Yes, it is simple math, Lori, there will come a day for you, as well as the others who have posted false Ripoff Reports against Kool Alaskan Malamutes and the James Kool family, when you each will stand before the Lord God Almighty, your creator, and account for the false postings here in each of these Ripoff reports. And for you Lori, the "Mother Mary" and the "saints" that you place statues of around your home and in your windows will not be able to help you then because the Bible says that there is only one mediator between God and man and that is the Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 5:10: "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad." 1 Timothy 2:5: "For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus." Not the mother Mary nor "saints." Psalm 67:3: "Let the peoples praise You, O God; Let all the peoples praise You." Psalm 104:1: "Bless the LORD, O my soul! O LORD my God, You are very great!"


Lori

Harrison Township,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Kool Alaskan Malamute slick puppy farm - response to devilsadvocate

#25Author of original report

Tue, March 17, 2009

With all due respect, I believe you missed the premise of my post. I never claimed to be (ripped off). This site is to make other consumers aware. Yes, I am well aware of the Malamute traits and temperaments which CAN present themselves if the necessary firm handling and training are not provided. With that being said, if a dog is not well socialized to begin with, these traits will rear their ugly head and the dogs will not be able to perform the duties they were bred to do. This is no falt of their own. The final point I made in my post, was that these dogs are not well socialized. Kool's diagnosed Luna with "same sex aggression" which I found to be an incorrect diagnose as it was not only female dogs she had issues with. A dog that will guard it's own vomit and try to re-ingest it while growling at any other dog that comes near is not indicative of a well socialized dog. Assuming that all of the children are involved with caring for the dogs at Kool Kennel. That only leaves two non school aged children to do it full time because the others, I'm sure, have their studies to attend to along with supervision from their mother. These 2 people are responsible for 20-30 plus puppies and all of the adults. In addition to socialization, there is the cleaning, feeding and handling the business transactions. It's simple math, there are not enough hours in the day to do it properly. The evidence was there with Luna, a 7 month old puppy. Where was she kept? With the younger puppies? With the other adults? How is feeding handled with so many dogs? All of this will affect the outcome of the dog. I wrote because of my love for Luna and the Malamute breed as a whole, They cannot speak for themselves. If consumers are aware, they will not knowingly help to perpetuate the exploitation of the breed and save themselves some heartache in the end.


Devilsadvocate4education*just My Opinions*

Las Vegas,
Nevada,
U.S.A.
Clarification? Puppy was as you were informed (and therefore GIVEN to you) and displayed traits the breed is known for is a rip off?

#26Consumer Comment

Sun, March 15, 2009

I'm confused as to why this report was placed, am I missing something? Being an experienced Malamute owner, I'm sure you are and were aware of their temperaments and particular traits. Anyone that's not, well they can type downside to malamutes' into google search and start reading(and mostly from breeders). What they will read is much like what you have described here. Despite the fact that you seem to be describing a malamute (food and dog aggression and dominance issues ect.), they opted to place this puppy with an experienced malamute owner instead of selling it because they felt the temperament issues where a bit in the extreme (they felt she was OVERLY possessive). It sounds like not only you are experienced with malamutes, but also experienced with same sex pairings and there was likely to be a disastrous outcome even with your experience and EVERYONE probably knew that. You were apparently fully informed of WHY they were choosing to go the route they did before you brought the puppy home. You were apparently informed and experienced with malamutes. Bringing the puppy into a home where there was already a same sex malamute would have likely made things even more difficult (hence the offer of the male). I am unsure why there is a complaint that the puppy was as it was represented and the breeder seems to have made every attempt to do the right thing here. If things actually went much better than was to be expected (so far) based on all the information provided, how did they rip you off? As far as being paid to write the report? I don't believe that, personally. They MAY be in contact and have decided together to post. Or maybe once one went up others decided to give it a try. *just my opinions*


Kool Alaskan Malamutes

Lyons,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Email Exchanges Between Lori Rago And Pat Kool Speak Volumes Against Lori's False Report Against Kool Alaskan Malamutes!!

#27REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sun, March 15, 2009

Upon review of Lori and Jeff Rago's adoption application in June 2008, Kool Alaskan Malamutes turned Lori and Jeff down for not having a fenced-in yard, for having 2 cats, and for having a female Alaskan Malamute, all which are fully against Alaskan Malamute rescue groups' standards for successfully young adult and adult Malamute adoptions. After Lori Rago BEGGED Pat Kool over and over again to adopt the female Malamute being offered for free, Kool Alaskan Malamutes reluctantly agreed to let Lori bring her female Malamute named Venus over to meet our Malamute female that was for adoption. Upon seeing that all went well with the meeting of the 2 Malamutes, Kool Alaskaan Malamutes agreed to give the Ragos a chance at adoption of our Malamute that they begged us to give them. This was on 6/28/08. The Ragos promptly named their newly adopted Malamute Luna. The following excerpts form email exchanges between Lori Rago of Harrison Twp, MI, and Pat Kool, co-owner of Kool Alaskan Malamutes, speak VOLUMES to the false report that Lori Rago has posted on this Rip-off Report: 6/29/08: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Lori Rago wrote: "Here are a few pictures of Luna. We just got in from our 3 mile walk and she did beautifully! I don't think I tired them out enough though, they're running around playing. She was such a good girl for her bath too! Take care, Lori" Again on 6/29/08: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Lori Rago wrote: "I can imagine it must be hard for you. But just remember, you have made us so very happy by letting us have her. I feel so lucky that she was passed by. She is such a sweet dog! It is too bad that she was there so long for you to get attached to her. She is so good with the boys and seems to have really taken to Alex. I don't think she's had the time to think that you abandoned her. It was a pretty full day both yesterday and today. I didn't want to overwhelm her, but I want her to know right off the bat, what our family life is like here. Venus seems to really like having her here and there has only been a slight bit of jealousy, as you would probably expect. We are making certain to give Venus ample attention too. When I thanked Alex for going over to Venus to pet her after he'd been with Luna, he said "you know Mamma, if Venus could talk, I'll bet that's what she would have said too." Luna is also doing very well with the food change. She had a loose bowel movement last night, but this morning, it was almost normal. I'm so glad I thought to mix the beef, rice and cottage cheese. By the way, house breaking is going extremely well for the first day! Right now, I'm pretty certain it's me that's more trained than her, but there have been no accidents and she already seems to know what "do you have to go outside" means. Have you taught her to wait for people to go through a door first? I have been amazed that she will wait for me to go in the house first! Thank you again! Lori" 6/30/08: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Lori Rago wrote: "That is wonderful that your kids made her sit down and stay still! It really helps with the obedience training here. I can definitely tell someone has worked with her. 2nd full day went pretty well. I worked on obedience with both Venus and Luna. We played a game too. We have a giggle ball toy that Venus used to love to play fetch with. Both dogs took turns to run after it and play with it while the other had to sit and stay. When I'd determined that time was up, I either had Venus bring it to me (well, sort of) LOL she drops it near me so it rolls to me and when Luna had it, I just told her to drop it, We also worked on sit stays and down. Luna is catching on to all of this in our household very quickly. These guys are so smart! Lori" 7/1/08: On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Lori Rago wrote: "You can definitely tell she was worked with. Your kids do a great job! Lori" 7/3/08: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Lori Rago wrote: "This morning, both girls woke up and greeted each other with wagging tails and kisses. Thanks, Lori" 7/5/08: On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Lori Rago wrote: "Thank you so much for helping deliver God's gift to us! As I've said before, he is putting our life back in balance. Luna is meant to be here and to assure you, will have a wonderful home with us as long as she lives. Lori" Again on 7/5/08: On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Lori Rago wrote: "Hi Pat, I've attached a few pics of our new family member. She seems very happy here. I hope you enjoy them. Lori" (In parantheses here from Kool Alaskan Malamutes: Most pictures sent on 7/5/08 from Lori Rago of Luna show Luna's tail curled up over her back!! Please email us from our website to request pictures of Luna taken on 7/5/08 by Lori Rago.) 7/11/08: On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Lori Rago wrote: "Hi Pat, Everything is going fine! She is such a little joy and has finally found her voice! What a cute little puppy bark. I've attached a few more pictures of the dogs in the pool! Luna really loves the water! I love to watch the antics of the two of them. They cool off then start running around the deck splashing through the pool every chance they get. I hope you don't mind, I did copy pictures from your web site of Peace and Silver Star so I could have pictures of Luna's Mom and Dad. Whomever takes the pictures does a beautiful job! By the way, you have a great website too! Talk to you soon. Lori" (In parantheses here from Kool Alaskan Malamutes: Every pictures sent on 7/11/08 from Lori Rago of Luna show Luna's tail curled up over her back!! Please email us from our website to request pictures of Luna taken on 7/11/08 by Lori Rago.) SO, these email exchanges between Lori Rago and Pat Kool, co-owner of Kool Alaskan Malamutes, speak VOLUMES to the false report here by Lori Rago. What is her motive? Perhaps money? On July 5, 2008, Lori stated: On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Lori Rago wrote: "Hi Pat, Jeff became 'self-employed' back in 2001. This was not by choice but out of necessity. To us, this is when the economy really started getting bad. The fortune 100 company he worked for wanted him to go to Kansas city for 18 months coming home every other weekend. At the time, Alex, our oldest, was only 1 1/2 years old. Family life is so important to us and we refused to let 'big business' interfere with our personal life. Jeff and I did a lot of talking and opted that he take the layoff. We figured while on unemployment, he could find another position and we'd be ok. That was not the case. We were in an adjustable rate mortgage because we'd refinanced to have our bathrooms remodeled (a much needed job). With Jeff's self-employed status, we did not think anyone would look at us to refinance. The interest rate adjusted up and mortgage payments were killing us to the point we started falling behind. The company would not work with us and actually tried forcing us into foreclosure by not accepting any payments unless we had enough to bring the account up to current. This all happened last August...We were going to end up getting kicked out of our home where we'd lived for 15 years with no where to go. Lori " Also, on July 11, 2008, Lori stated: On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Lori Rago wrote: "Hi Pat, ...I guess the old saying holds true that 'money talks.' Talk to you soon. Lori" AND, wouldn't you know it, that as soon as we are being heavily harassed by Jolene Houghtaling of Hudson's Malamutes because we have evidence against her of crimes that she has committed that we are about to turn into the authorities, that we get 2 Rip-off Reports against Kool Alaskan Malamutes within 6 days of each other!! A coincidence??? We never even heard of the Rip-off Report until 2/22/09. And, here comes on the first Rip-off Report 14 months AFTER Dawn bought her puppy, and the second Rip-off Report comes on 8 months AFTER Lori adopts her young adult from Kool Alaskan Malamutes! Again, I say: A coincidence??? Could it be that since Jolene Houghtaling of Hudson's Malamutes receives $2000 to $2500 per puppy that she is paying Lori, who has been in desperate need of money, to write this very negative Rip-off Report???? 1 Timothy 2:5: "For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus." Not the mother Mary nor "saints." Psalm 67:3: "Let the peoples praise You, O God; Let all the peoples praise You." Psalm 104:1: "Bless the LORD, O my soul! O LORD my God, You are very great!"


Lori

Harrison Township,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Kool Alaskan Malamutes

#28Author of original report

Tue, February 24, 2009

This is NOT a licensed kennel. According to the county they're in, there are no restrictions on how many animals you have on your property and I was told that each dog is licensed individually, therefore, do not have to conform to any kennel ordinances or standards set.


Lori

Harrison Township,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Kool Alaskan Malamutes

#29Author of original report

Tue, February 24, 2009

This is NOT a licensed kennel. According to the county they're in, there are no restrictions on how many animals you have on your property and I was told that each dog is licensed individually, therefore, do not have to conform to any kennel ordinances or standards set.


Lori

Harrison Township,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Kool Alaskan Malamutes

#30Author of original report

Tue, February 24, 2009

This is NOT a licensed kennel. According to the county they're in, there are no restrictions on how many animals you have on your property and I was told that each dog is licensed individually, therefore, do not have to conform to any kennel ordinances or standards set.


Lori

Harrison Township,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Kool Alaskan Malamutes

#31Author of original report

Tue, February 24, 2009

This is NOT a licensed kennel. According to the county they're in, there are no restrictions on how many animals you have on your property and I was told that each dog is licensed individually, therefore, do not have to conform to any kennel ordinances or standards set.

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