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  • Report:  #599385

Complaint Review: Lake Norman Pool and Spa - Cornelius North Carolina

Reported By:
Veegee - Mooresville, North Carolina, U.S.A.
Submitted:
Updated:

Lake Norman Pool and Spa
18926 Statesville Road Cornelius, North Carolina, United States of America
Phone:
704-655-0899
Web:
www.lakenorman.com
Categories:
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About 3 4 years ago, my husband and I bought an above ground pool with a Mineral Springs system from Lake Norman Pool and Spa.  The system was about a thousand dollars and we got no instructions on how to use it during installation.  The store also has a bad practice of lying about you never need to any other chemicals.  You do.  A salt system generates ONLY chlorine.  You still need to check your pH and alkalinity levels.  Invest in a testers kit and do tests weekly.  Don't let them test your water.  They will sell you things you do not need and can not return.  Somehow we managed to figure all this out and keep the system running.  This year, my husband is overseas and I know I needed help setting up the pool for the summer (checking hoses and adding chemicals, etc).  So, about four weeks ago I called Lake Norman Pool and Spa and got the number for service.  Once on the phone with service, I explained that I had algae and needing help with reconnecting hoses and adding chemicals.  The lady on the phone said, Oh, no.  We dont add chemicals.  A service call is $95 and for that we vacuum.  But we have to see the bottom of the pool before we can do that.  OK.  I thought that was odd for a SERVICE department, but I figured that I could manage. 



A few days later, I bought algaecide and eight bags of salt.  The first day, I added the algaecide and turned on the filter.  The second day, I added six bags of salt and turned on the box which operates my cell.  I noticed that I had a solid red light next to No Flow.  I immediately called the store to tell them that I have a no flow error.  The store gives me the number for service again.  I called service and told the actual service guy my problem.  He responded with some half mumbled garbage about my cell being dirty and that I needed to take a water sample to the store.  I asked if I couldnt just get service out to the house and he did say that it would take over a week. 



The next day, I bought a sample of water to the store and talked to the guys there about my problem.  They tried to sell me a new cell for $700.  They tested my water and there was a flurry of panic and activity behind the desk about the levels.  Yet, no one told me what the levels meant and they did not sell me any chemicals.  Instead, what they sold me was a bottle of cleaner for the cell.  The cleaner was hydrochloric acid which is not a chemical I would use myself or allow any of my friends or family to use.  I had already explained to these people that my cell was clean and free of scale, but they said this should work.  Their only advice on the levels in the pool was to drain some water out and add more in.  I literally left the store in tears and went home to call someone else.  I did get help from Complete Care in Mooresville.  Justin told me I might need a new flow switch and he turned out to be 100% correct.  For less than $200, my cell is now generating chemicals and I could not be happier.  As for Lake Norman Pool, I did call and ask Tracy, the store manager for a price on the flow switch.  She said she would look it up and call me back. 



Two days later, I still did not hear from her.  I also called the corporate to tell them just exactly how they lost a customer and why I would never recommend them to anyone.  At one point, during my story, the man on the phone actually asked me if I wanted to be put through to service.  I asked him if he was crazy.  He also told me a supervisor would call me back.  One week later, I have not heard from the store or the supervisor from corporate.  In todays economy, customer service is KEY.  If you sell a product, you should know ALL about it and so should the people who service it.  Buyers beware when dealing with Lake Norman Pool and if you can, shop somewhere else.



4 Updates & Rebuttals

Veegee

Mooresville,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Resolution At Last

#2Author of original report

Mon, July 19, 2010

Thanks to the reply from the REAL owner of Lake Norman Pool and Spa.  I contacted Mr. Dooley to explain that I was not smearing his company, but telling my real experience.  He contacted me back several days later and put me in touch with his district manager.  The district manager came to the house, apologized profusely, and tested the pool.  That SAME day, he contacted me to go over the list of what I would need.  He gave me a gift card, allowed me to exchange the cell cleaner, and took me step by step over what I need to do with my pool.  I appreciate the response from this company and, even though it is slightly inconvenient, will be dealing with the Satesville store strictly.  I am thoroughly happy with the resolution and the response from Lake Norman Pool and Spa and I would recommend Mr. Dooley and Neil to anyone who asks. 


Bob Dooley

Statesville,
North Carolina,
United States of America
proves you can believe everything on the internet

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, June 25, 2010

My name is Bob Dooley, and I started Lake Norman Pool and Spa 24 years ago in Downtown Statesville. I am a native of the area and live with my family in Troutman. I came across this RipOff Report by goggleing my company name, as I ocassionally do.

First, let me say that proof that you simply can't believe everything you read on the internet, or on this bogus website, is in the website itself. I happen to see that the first rebuttal written is from someone who claims to be the owner of Lake Norman Pool and Spa and this person simply states that our correct website is www.watersfine.com and not lakenorman.com. I DID NOT WRITE THIS REBUTTAL. And any website such as RipOff Reports that would allow someone to write in as the owner of a company when this is not true should be enough to raise any person's suspcion. Actually, I'm glad they did, because any reasonable reader would realize that the owner of a 24 year old business would never write a rebuttal such as that and not even address the issue initially stated, which is a customer complaint.

Now for my response to the complaint. First, the writer states that she bought a system and got no instructions on how to use it. We give instructions to all purchasers of our products, and they are also available in written form in the owners manuals left at installation, and online. Next, the writer contradicts herself when she says she was "lied to" and told she would "never need to add any other chemicals". Why then I ask, would we "try to sell her something she does not need"...these somethings are other chemicals used to keep the pH and Alkalinity within the proper ranges. We supply with every pool sale an owners manual written by myself that specifies proper chemical care, and always encourage our customers to bring in their water a few times a month to make sure all is okay. Our recommendations are based on proven industry standards recognized by the National Sanitary Foundation and the Association of Pool and Spa Professionals, of which we are a member. It is the consumer's choice to follow our lab's recommendations or not. We also include with each pool a packet of test strips and encourage the buyer to test at home several times weekly.

The writer states that she called and said she had algae in her pool, so I would guess her "method" of pool care was not working out too well for her as algae is a clear sign of improper pool care, or improper water balance at fall closing. The writer is correct in that we do charge $95 for the first full hour of service, and she is also correct in being told that we normally will not add chemicals on a service call unless the pool is on weekly maintenance or it is at closing or opening. Our technicians simply cannot balance the pool water and clear algae properly in 1 hour. Superchlorination of a pool with low Ph or metals in the water can damage the vinyl liner or cause staining. We have always prefered a customer bring a sample of the water to our stores for a full analysis...which normally includes waiting times between the addition of certain balancing and chlorination products. Simply thowing chlorine shock in a green pool can cause more problems than solutions, and I will not allow it unless we know the water balance is correct. For that reason, we normally recommend the customer try and clear the pool with the stores help before we spend their money vacuuming the pool. I think common sense will tell you that to do a good job vacuuming a pool, it helps to be able to see what you are vacuuming. Trying to vaccum a green pool would only have resulted in her calling and complaining, after the pool cleared, that we did a terrible job vacumming and there was still debris in the pool.

In regards to issues with the salt cell, the life of the cell on the Mineral Springs units is typically 3 to 5 years. When the cell is going bad, a low salt light will stay on even when the salt levels are sufficient. The NO FLOW light typically is on for the first several minutes at start-up, then goes out. If hers stayed on, our staff would have first recommended cell cleaner as this sometimes can "dislodge" any scale deposits that may prevent the flow switch from activating. The cell cleaner is sold nationwide by Bioguard and is safer to use than many of the products used in pool care, as long as the directions are followed. And if the pool was green, and given that it was an above ground with a limited amount of water, I agree with the advice that it is somtimes much cheaper to do a partial drain and refill than try to clear a swamp. Just by draining half the water and refilling with fresh water, you can reduce the chemicals and manpower needed to clean a green pool by half, and save big dollars as water is cheaper than chemicals. I am glad that all the writer needed was a flow switch and that this solved the problem, and I apologize profusely if her request for a return call was not honored on a timely basis. The pool business is extremely seasonal, and we are literally inudated with calls the first of May. We simply can't have enough staff that time of year, as our profitable season is only 4 months long, if we did hire more for that time of year, we would simply have to terminate them in the slow months. We have found our customers would rather have knowledgable and seasoned pool professionals in our stores and service department, even if they don't like the long waits that can and do happen. And yes, when the phone rings off the hook for 10 hours a day, things can and will fall through the cracks in May as neither I nor my staff are perfect.

Lake Norman Pool and Spa is one of the oldest, largest, and most reputable pool companys in the area. We would not have been in business continually for 24 years if we "lied" to our customers. We have thousands of satisfied customers throughout the area, are members of the BBB, and I personally am very active in my community and church. I could not be more proud of our employees, as they operate with the highest standards of integrity and professionalism. Our employess attend weeks of training in our industry every winter in order to serve our customers better. We have contributed  to the communities we serve in many ways for years, and support countless charities. While we are not perfect, we are honest and recognized nationwide by our peers in the pool and spa industry as being one of the best. The writer is correct, in today's economy customer service is the key, and while many pool and spa companies in our area have gone out of business, the fact that we are still here to serve says alot.

In closing, while we strive to have 100% satisfaction, I realize it is not possible. I can only hope that the readers of this RipOff Report will talk to the other 99% of our customers who let me know daily how much they appreciate us being there for them. I encourage the writer to contact me directly at [email protected] if she has any more complaints about our team at Lake Norman Pool and Spa, instead of cowardly trying to smear the name of a good and reputable company on the web. 

 


Veegee

Mooresville,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.
LIES AND NO SERVICE

#4Author of original report

Sat, May 08, 2010

As the owner of Lake Norman Pool and Spa that is all you have to say about the situation?   I am frankly quite surprised that the only response you had to the entire situation was to correct the website.  You had NO repsonse to the events or even a suggestion?!  I can not believe that you do NOT want to even TRY...I should not be so naive.  BUYERS BEWARE!!!!  THIS COMPANY CLEARLY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT CUSTOMERS, NO MATTER HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN SHOPPING.  I STILL have not heard anything from the company, other than the poor rebuttal posted on this site.  Thankfully, my pool is up and running thanks to Justin and Marcie!!


John

Cornelius,
North Carolina,
United States of America
Incorrect website listed in this report

#5Consumer Comment

Tue, May 04, 2010

This author listed LakeNorman.com as the company website for Lake Norman Pool and Spa, and that is not correct.  The company website is Watersfine.com. As the owner of LakeNorman.com I need to make this correction in order for the report to be factually correct.  Thank you.



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