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  • Report:  #293236

Complaint Review: lifan-motorcycles-wholesale.com - La Verne California

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- St JOhns, Arizona,
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lifan-motorcycles-wholesale.com
1871 Wright Ave., La Verne, 91750 California, U.S.A.
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I went to this website to order a motorcycle. I made a purchase paid by credit card guaranteed 2 day Christmas delivery( I ordered on DEC 12th . When I went to contact the Company to find out why I had not received the bike, I found that they had to phone number. I contacted my credit card company to find out the companies phone number, they had a fake phone number and information listed. After numerous email to the company, I finally got an email back withg na tracking number. I called the delivery company, guess what they don't deliver here, they had no idea what I was talking about. I filed with my credit card company but.

Jay

St JOhns, Arizona

U.S.A.


5 Updates & Rebuttals

Peterson121

Puyallup,
Washington,
U.S.A.
Gordon Whittet is not to be trusted. This is not slander, it is the truth. He is a Lie and a Cheat!

#2Consumer Comment

Wed, June 18, 2008

Look at his address in the response,.. New Zealand?!?!? That should tell you right their. Or maybe he just made a ten digit typo, and what he really meant was Laverne California, or was it Chula Vista, or Chino, wait maybe it's a new address again. He says he has sold since 2003, and in that time he has had several addresses listed. Not only that he has many websites that mirror Motorcycles-Wholesale, and send you to the same site. He has more Physical addresses and Websites, than any legitimate business owner should. Further more he advises everyone that complains, that this is isolated. Try this,.. go to google, type in "Gordon Whittet" or " gordon whittet, new zealand" and you will be met with hundreds of websites that contain negative experiences about Gordon and his many Websites. He is a fraud, and does not sell what he says he does. A multitude of individuals have had the same experience. Do not be led astray by his responces that tell you this is a one time deal. Not so. Bad form Mr. Whittet,.. Bad form! Quit pretending to be Honest, your secret's out. For my Personal Experience, see below: Gordon Whittet out of California operates this website: https://motorcycles-wholesale.com The website also has many alias names that direct you to the same site: AKA - lifan-motorcycles-wholesale.com, Minibike-wholesale.com, Pocketbike-wholesale.com, and many more. The short version of the story is this. I paid Gordon Whittet for the motorcycle described on his website, as well as a 3 yr Warranty. When it arrived, though it looked like the motorcycle described, It was completely different. He lied about every feature of the bike, and said I would have to pay for shipping to return it. I was upset that it was a bait an switch, but apparently had no options. So I kept it thinking, that if anything goes wrong with it, at least I have a 3 yr Bumper to Bumper Warranty to cover it. Gordon does not stand behind his warranty. I purchaced a motorcycle from him In December, and have had nothing but problems with both him, and the bike. He assures me that my case is isolated, but type in his name into any search engine and you will find volumes of info about people who have been upset by this man and his business practices. It was a 2007 Lifan GRX 200. It took nearly 2.5 months for him to finally send it out. On top of that, his website is full of lies. He said it had an aluminum frame,.. it doesn't, he said it had a rear disk brake, it doesn't. Worst of all he said it has a three year "bumper to bumper Warranty". It most certainly does not. I have put just over 2000 miles on my Motorcycle. The front and rear wheel bearings are going south, there is play in the sprocket hub, Small oil leak comming from the transmission just below the shift linkage, and there is Rust in the gas tank. This bike has been babied, and taken care of. Never ridden in the rain,.. always used premium gas, etc... At the time of shippment I asked him to send me a copy of the warranty, he never did. I emailed a few weeks later and asked about the warranty, he sent a quick email that basically stated the engine is covered and that's it. He refuses to provide a written warranty, though it is stated as a bumper to bumper warranty on his site. Of all these things what does Gordon's warranty cover? Nothing, not a thing! He advises this is all normal wear and tear and not covered by warranty. I could understand if this were a very old bike that was abused, but this bike has been taken care of, and is only 2000 miles old?!?!?!? I have owned several older Japanese sportbikes with 20 to 30,000 miles on them, and none had any of these issues. Gordon assures me that all other people have no issues with their Lifans, and do not have these problems. Yet for a bike so plagued with problems that are apparenlty out of the ordinary,... Why is nothing covered by warranty? To add to the frustration, Gordon says I can order the replacement parts through him. Now on his website, it states that anyone who buys his motorcycles gets a 50% discount on parts bought through his site. Although in the Email, he advised that I should go to Rabbitscooters.com, then deduct 30% off thier prices, and get back to him with my order. There is not one detail published on his site that is legitimate. He will not stand behind any of it. Several people have suggested that the motorcycles Gordon sells are copies, and not Lifan Motorcycles. This could be true. American Lifan does not back him up. Either way he is a horrible businessman, a Liar, and a thief. I can't get a written warranty or address from the guy. He just copies over an email with sparse details that cover very little. Furthermore, He ships 3rd party through Rabbitscooters.com, so we get their address instead of his. Upon calling Rabbit scooters, they will tell you he is not affiliated, nor can they help you with any of his dealings. Shame on you Gordon. Or shame on Me for dealing with you without researching you and your company. To others,.. please do some research. I have no doubt you will have no desire to do business with this man once you have done your research. Buy a Ninja 250 instead. Used they are about 1200 dollars with a few thousand miles on them, have a 14,000 RPM redline, and can be serviced or get parts through any Kawasaki Dealer. Furthermore you will be more respected by bikers in general that you bought from Japan instead of china. Don't be fooled by the price tag. Quality Japanese bikes can be had for the same.


Gordon

Wellington,
Other,
New Zealand
It's a disgruntled customer telling lies, and slandering a legitimate company.

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, April 14, 2008

Hello, Firstly, as the owner/manager, I handle all incoming emails personally, and I make a point of responding promptly to every customer email that I receive. If I received an email from this person, I replied to him promptly. I can understand that this person may be annoyed if his delivery was late, but we simply cannot be held responsible for unforseen shipping delays, especially at very busy times of year such as late December. Anyway, rather than accept this unforseen shipping delay, this person decided to refuse the bike, and it was returned to us. This cost our company the trucking charges both ways, totalling $500. He was refunded his credit card payment in full. And now he is posting this lying slander about our company. Regarding our address and contact details, at that time we had been moving to bigger premises, and the address and contact details listed on our website had not been updated yet. We have been selling motorcycles online since 2003 and have sold thousands of bikes. We take our customer service very seriously, and we try to completely satisfy every customer. We are a small, Christain beliefs, family-run business, with a life-long passion for street motorcycles, motor scooters, dual purpose trail bikes, off-road dirt bikes, and quad bikes. We try to sell only the best quality Brands of bikes manufactured in China, and after extensive testing, and a lot of trial and error, we have proven that 'Lifan' and 'Roketa' brands of motorcycles and scooters are the best two Brands manufactured in China, for reliability, performance, and affordability. We believe we are providing a very profitable service because we offer brand new motorcycles, at wholesale prices, direct-to-the-public. Anyone can visit our website at motorcycles-wholesale.com and purchase a brand new motorcycle for between $1,000 to $2,000 (that's around 1/3rd of the price of a Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, or Kawasaki of the same type and size), and they can get very cheap personal transportation. They save a lot of money on gas because they are getting 80 - 120 miles per gallon, and these motorcycles and scooters are a lot of fun to ride. So we believe we are offering a very good service, and our prices are very competitive. Thankfully, thousands of satisfied customers over the years agree. However, this person seems to prove the old maxim that you can't please everyone. Such is life in this world. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to respond and state our case. Kind regards, Gordon Whittet. Owner/Manager, Motorcycles Wholesale http://www.motorcycles-wholesale.com [email protected]


Gordon

Wellington,
Other,
New Zealand
It's a disgruntled customer telling lies, and slandering a legitimate company.

#4REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, April 14, 2008

Hello, Firstly, as the owner/manager, I handle all incoming emails personally, and I make a point of responding promptly to every customer email that I receive. If I received an email from this person, I replied to him promptly. I can understand that this person may be annoyed if his delivery was late, but we simply cannot be held responsible for unforseen shipping delays, especially at very busy times of year such as late December. Anyway, rather than accept this unforseen shipping delay, this person decided to refuse the bike, and it was returned to us. This cost our company the trucking charges both ways, totalling $500. He was refunded his credit card payment in full. And now he is posting this lying slander about our company. Regarding our address and contact details, at that time we had been moving to bigger premises, and the address and contact details listed on our website had not been updated yet. We have been selling motorcycles online since 2003 and have sold thousands of bikes. We take our customer service very seriously, and we try to completely satisfy every customer. We are a small, Christain beliefs, family-run business, with a life-long passion for street motorcycles, motor scooters, dual purpose trail bikes, off-road dirt bikes, and quad bikes. We try to sell only the best quality Brands of bikes manufactured in China, and after extensive testing, and a lot of trial and error, we have proven that 'Lifan' and 'Roketa' brands of motorcycles and scooters are the best two Brands manufactured in China, for reliability, performance, and affordability. We believe we are providing a very profitable service because we offer brand new motorcycles, at wholesale prices, direct-to-the-public. Anyone can visit our website at motorcycles-wholesale.com and purchase a brand new motorcycle for between $1,000 to $2,000 (that's around 1/3rd of the price of a Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, or Kawasaki of the same type and size), and they can get very cheap personal transportation. They save a lot of money on gas because they are getting 80 - 120 miles per gallon, and these motorcycles and scooters are a lot of fun to ride. So we believe we are offering a very good service, and our prices are very competitive. Thankfully, thousands of satisfied customers over the years agree. However, this person seems to prove the old maxim that you can't please everyone. Such is life in this world. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to respond and state our case. Kind regards, Gordon Whittet. Owner/Manager, Motorcycles Wholesale http://www.motorcycles-wholesale.com [email protected]


Gordon

Wellington,
Other,
New Zealand
It's a disgruntled customer telling lies, and slandering a legitimate company.

#5REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, April 14, 2008

Hello, Firstly, as the owner/manager, I handle all incoming emails personally, and I make a point of responding promptly to every customer email that I receive. If I received an email from this person, I replied to him promptly. I can understand that this person may be annoyed if his delivery was late, but we simply cannot be held responsible for unforseen shipping delays, especially at very busy times of year such as late December. Anyway, rather than accept this unforseen shipping delay, this person decided to refuse the bike, and it was returned to us. This cost our company the trucking charges both ways, totalling $500. He was refunded his credit card payment in full. And now he is posting this lying slander about our company. Regarding our address and contact details, at that time we had been moving to bigger premises, and the address and contact details listed on our website had not been updated yet. We have been selling motorcycles online since 2003 and have sold thousands of bikes. We take our customer service very seriously, and we try to completely satisfy every customer. We are a small, Christain beliefs, family-run business, with a life-long passion for street motorcycles, motor scooters, dual purpose trail bikes, off-road dirt bikes, and quad bikes. We try to sell only the best quality Brands of bikes manufactured in China, and after extensive testing, and a lot of trial and error, we have proven that 'Lifan' and 'Roketa' brands of motorcycles and scooters are the best two Brands manufactured in China, for reliability, performance, and affordability. We believe we are providing a very profitable service because we offer brand new motorcycles, at wholesale prices, direct-to-the-public. Anyone can visit our website at motorcycles-wholesale.com and purchase a brand new motorcycle for between $1,000 to $2,000 (that's around 1/3rd of the price of a Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, or Kawasaki of the same type and size), and they can get very cheap personal transportation. They save a lot of money on gas because they are getting 80 - 120 miles per gallon, and these motorcycles and scooters are a lot of fun to ride. So we believe we are offering a very good service, and our prices are very competitive. Thankfully, thousands of satisfied customers over the years agree. However, this person seems to prove the old maxim that you can't please everyone. Such is life in this world. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to respond and state our case. Kind regards, Gordon Whittet. Owner/Manager, Motorcycles Wholesale http://www.motorcycles-wholesale.com [email protected]


Gordon

Wellington,
Other,
New Zealand
It's a disgruntled customer telling lies, and slandering a legitimate company.

#6REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, April 14, 2008

Hello, Firstly, as the owner/manager, I handle all incoming emails personally, and I make a point of responding promptly to every customer email that I receive. If I received an email from this person, I replied to him promptly. I can understand that this person may be annoyed if his delivery was late, but we simply cannot be held responsible for unforseen shipping delays, especially at very busy times of year such as late December. Anyway, rather than accept this unforseen shipping delay, this person decided to refuse the bike, and it was returned to us. This cost our company the trucking charges both ways, totalling $500. He was refunded his credit card payment in full. And now he is posting this lying slander about our company. Regarding our address and contact details, at that time we had been moving to bigger premises, and the address and contact details listed on our website had not been updated yet. We have been selling motorcycles online since 2003 and have sold thousands of bikes. We take our customer service very seriously, and we try to completely satisfy every customer. We are a small, Christain beliefs, family-run business, with a life-long passion for street motorcycles, motor scooters, dual purpose trail bikes, off-road dirt bikes, and quad bikes. We try to sell only the best quality Brands of bikes manufactured in China, and after extensive testing, and a lot of trial and error, we have proven that 'Lifan' and 'Roketa' brands of motorcycles and scooters are the best two Brands manufactured in China, for reliability, performance, and affordability. We believe we are providing a very profitable service because we offer brand new motorcycles, at wholesale prices, direct-to-the-public. Anyone can visit our website at motorcycles-wholesale.com and purchase a brand new motorcycle for between $1,000 to $2,000 (that's around 1/3rd of the price of a Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, or Kawasaki of the same type and size), and they can get very cheap personal transportation. They save a lot of money on gas because they are getting 80 - 120 miles per gallon, and these motorcycles and scooters are a lot of fun to ride. So we believe we are offering a very good service, and our prices are very competitive. Thankfully, thousands of satisfied customers over the years agree. However, this person seems to prove the old maxim that you can't please everyone. Such is life in this world. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to respond and state our case. Kind regards, Gordon Whittet. Owner/Manager, Motorcycles Wholesale http://www.motorcycles-wholesale.com [email protected]

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