Melani
Pala,#2REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sat, April 23, 2005
Well I guess you can see by this post of "Mommy Dearest" lunacy just how wacked she is! Proves my point.
Rose Marie
Hemet,#3Consumer Comment
Tue, April 19, 2005
Carraig Birman is the Nightmarish verison of Mommy Dearest Carraig Birman's This Nightmarish verison of Mommy Dearest is the representative of the bad cat breeder's listed on this site. Nightmarish verison of Mommy Dearest condones, overlooks & supports its malevolent offspring's, bad business practices & unethical behaviors against consumers & buyer's. The Nightmarish verison of Mommy Dearest main agenda is: #1. Attempting to salvage their deplorable & wretched reputations as bad pedigree cat breeder's. #2 Nightmarish verison of Mommy Dearest does NOT want their deviant reputations EXPOSED for all of us to know & read about. #3. Lusts after financial gain. #4. Nightmarish verison of Mommy Dearest want their legendary evil characters, behaviors & breeding practices hidden as much as possible so no one truly knows what they are all about, & this does not effect their kitten sales.
Betty
Coles Island,#4Consumer Comment
Tue, April 19, 2005
None of the above quoted people is telling the truth. They have left out key information that indicates their own responsibilities in their dealings with Lollimops, but that is at the behest of the fraudulent and thieving "president" of the Pedigree Cat Breeder's Society.org, Rosemarie Zizzo. Zizzo has an unbalanced obsession with Lollimops cattery, because she once bought one of their cats, which she kept for a year, in a crowded little travel trailer along with at least 15 other adult cats, plus kittens, and no air circulation, because she kept the windows covered and closed to hide the cats from her neighbors. Zizzo was evicted from her seniors' trailer park, for having more than the one cat allowed, and for running a breeding business,which was strictly forbidden. Because of the content of the website run by Zizzo, which contains this trash about Lollimops and other breeders, and because she twice dumped her purebred cats at a kill shelter, Zizzo has now been banned for life from the Cat Fanciers Association. Zizzo has most recently been caught stealing copyrighted material from the Purina/Friskies company, and also Cat Fancy magazine. More than a dozen urls to her pages have been removed from the Google search engines, for violating the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, namely, they contained stolen copyrighted material. Zizzo herself is under investigation for stalking under California's penal code laws.
Melani
Pala,#5REBUTTAL Individual responds
Tue, April 19, 2005
Shame on you, Kristi why don't you tell the WHOLE story instead of just the parts that make you look good? What exactly is a falsehood here? First of all your attorney husband insisted on changing the contract before signing it, which greatly upset me because he took out the part about exposing the kitten to other cats and the diseases they may carry, you didn't want any responsiblity for that. This tells me that you had a problem prior to this kitten coming into your home and you knew and didn't want to accept responsibilty for anything that would result from that. I wanted to cancel the sale right then but you talked me out of it. You did NOT buy or pay for three cats like you try to make this sound. You bought one cat which you have, and that you state is healthy and happy! The first cat did test positive for FeLV, but we soon learned with all my research that false positives can happen and that the test your vet used was the worst in the industry for false positives. I also talked to the lab your vet used and they told me that the test went to the line so they could not call it positive but it wasn't clearly neg. either. I tested the other two kittens in the litter, called the owner of the stud and he was tested for the 4th time, called the new owner (a vet tech) of the mom and she was tested again, all tests were neg and you were given that info. I told you that every cat that had ever come in here had been tested upon arrrival and that in 25 years there had not ever been a positive cat, and certainly never a sick cat, and also told you that almost every kitten that leaves here had been tested by the new owner with never a positive. We agreed that you would bring her back in exchange for the sister and upon your arrival we went to my vet and the cat you had was tested there and the test was NEGATIVE, correct? Something was wrong at your vet's office and we agreed on that. I told you that the origianl owner of the stud had come to get her kitten but changed her mind because she was going thru some problems and had decided no more cats and brought him back. I told you that she had a terrible ringworm problem and that not knowing that you were going to bring back your girl at the time I put the kitten back in with his sister, the cat you finally took. I told you up front that there was a possiblity because of this that she could have been exposed to ringworm. I offered to observe her for several weeks and then ship her to you at my own expense which I did. But you did't let her stay here long enough for me to know for sure before you demanded that I ship her, and you got real snotty about it. That's two cats, but you still only got one, let's address the third. Did you pay for the third kitten? Nope! She was a gift to you. You liked her and I felt bad for all that you had been thru, but once again I was totally upfront with you. I told you that she had problems and I wasn't sure if she would be all right but you still wanted her. I told you to keep her isolated bcause I felt that she may have a compromised immune system. You promised to do that but didn't since you told me a few days later that she was running the floor with all your other cats. She was never exposed to the corona virus here since she was never exposed to adult cats, but was hand raised by me since birth. So if she died of FIP then you exposed her to that virus by letting her run the floor and use the same litter box as the rest of your cats. You don't have to have sick cats with FIP to espose other cats, they all carry the virus and kittens with their immature immune systems are always at a greater risk. But she was free so you have no right to b***h. Now..... You know Susan Ives or Guest001, sidewinder..or whoever the hell you think you are todayif you have a problem with the way I do business why don't you talk to me instead of gossiping behind my back? I have absolutely no patience or respect for people who are cowards and slander others without knowing what the hell they are talking about. Why don't you at least try to find out what the truth is? RoseMarie Zizzo or Rizzo as you call her since you do not even know her name..wouldn't know the truth if it bit her on the butt. She has been making up stories and telling lies about me for the last two years. She has harassed me to unbelievable lengths. She has accused me of selling sick FIP infected cats and spread her garbage all over the internet, but let me tell you, I have a titre value on that kitten's litter BEFORE it left my house, from Cornell and the titre for corona was negative, I also have a titre on that kitten's mother of neg 1:8. She asked me to prove that the kitten didn't have it when it left my houseand I did, but you don't see that info posted on her site do you? Let's see her prove the kitten didn't pick up the virus at her house where she has 14 other cats, all running the floor. How do I know that, I saw it! I have been to her house/travel trailer. This kitten never hit the floor at my house and was never exposed to adult cats until it got to her house. And let's not forget here that FIP is everywhere, all cats carry the virus, and if you breed you are going to hit it. In fact one of the foremost researchers of this disease at UCDavis believes that it is in the air. We as breeders should not be pointing fingers, how do you know it is not lurking in your cattery ready to strike? You know why her cat was never replaced? First of all I do not think it came from here with the virus that causes FIP, second she violated her contract with me numerous times; #1-she placed the cat with other cats and my contract says I will not be responsible for diseases that other cats carry, if there are other cats in the home #2-she had the cat beyond the time it was guaranteed for, almost a year #3-she never provided the necropsy required for replacement that she agreed to by signing my contract, she had a tissue biopsy done after the cat was already dead, a biopsy is not a necropsy, the vet bill she sent to CFA also showed that she just euthanised the cat without ever trying to find out what was wrong with it. NO testing was ever done. #4-she never had the kitten checked or tested by her vet when she first got it #5-most important of all is that she had already broken her contractual agreement with me buy not paying for the cat when she said she would. One part of the contract violated means the whole thing is null and void. You do not get to pick which parts you will abide by and which parts you will ignore. Now let's address the matter of a non-refundable deposit not being refunded just because the person changed their mind. That too is none of your business and you should not be gossiping about me until you have all the facts, and you would only get those from me. Every dog, cat and horse breeder website I have ever been too advises that if you want a kitten/dog/horse held for you then a deposit is required and there is always ample notification that the deposit is NON-REFUNDABLE should you change your mind, or back out of the sale, and this is especially true at Christmas. This person was told up front and it is clearly stated on my website that all deposits are non-refundable. A deposit is a good faith promise that you will come and pick up the animal when the time comes for it to go to it's new home. It says, I am serious and I will follow thru. If I held kittens for people without deposits then they can change their mind and never notify me and I would be left sittin on a lot of un-sold kittens, wondering what happened. Right? Make sense to you? Or is that to far above your head? Good business, makes everyone involved be responsible. I told him he didn't have to put a deposit on the kitten but I couldn't promise it would be here when he wanted it. No one made this guy put a deposit on this kitten, he wanted to be sure it would be there for him when he came to get it. No one made him cancel the sale, that was his own idea. So, he should take responsibility for his own actions, something fewer and fewer of us do now days. This person that wanted the kitten held for him for his wife's Christmas present and was insistent on purchasing a kitten on the website that was clearly marked in big bold red letters SOLD!but I offered him, after hearing his sob story, a kitten that I was going to keep. He wanted it, site unseen but I offered to email him a picture first. So he did not pay to see the kitten as he states, and what further ruins his and his wife's credibility is that less than half an hour after canceling the sale and being obnoxious about the deposit, they had a complaint up on Zizzo's site, (made me wonder if I was set up) and she filed a complaint for them with CFA about this mater and she stated in this complaint that I sold them a sick kitten, ( she lied to them to get around paying the $100.00 fee if the complaint is not about a sick kitten)remember they canceled before they ever got a kitten. So, see, she lied, as she always does. All of the complaints she has made to CFA about me have been resolved in my favor. CFA has also even given me a letter stating that I have a cattery in good standing. All her complaints to the BBB have been resolved in my favor, and all the times she has sent animal control to my door, they have never found a problem, including the time she called them on me when I asked her where her payment was for the cat she had purchased. I had been amply warned that she never finished paying for any of the cats she bought, but I didn't listen. I thought I could trust her. Hmmmm, guess we know that isn't the case. You know what else you do not see on her site, all the people that I have done business with that didn't like what she had to say and stuck up for me, but she never posts those remarks because they are not sensational, nor do they support her tirade of a temper tantrum. You need to know that this wacko has even hacked into my email and spammed my friends, other catteries listed on my site, and past, future and present customers. Yep, I have the proof. So Susan Ives, if you want the truth why don't you have the guts to contact me? I have a lot of documentation to back up everything I have said. Anyone the reads and believes the drivel that Rosemarie Zizzo spreads around has about as much grip on reality as she does. And who the hell is Harriet Cloud? I don't know her either so how is she sharing about me? I would like to share about Rosemarie Zizzo, her lies, her abuse of her animals. And...do these people know that you are a breeder? A breeder that lets her kittens die when they get an upper respiratory, or that your cats have a terrible ringworm problem? Yeah why don't you ask her what she did with her cats when she got tired of them? She dumped them at the pound. Not once, not twice but three differnet times. One of the females was pregnant and about to deliver. So when she says her site is about "protecting kitties" think about her's and what she did to them. I have a cattery in good standing with CFA, all of Zizzo's frivolus complaints have been resolved in my favor and that makes her even madder. She has been kicked out of CFA, banned for life for harassing me. They don't like her and what she is doing and niether do any reputable breeders. She never posts the truth or even both sides but only the way she wants it to be. This poor pitiful example of a human being probably never had any friends in her life because she is not likeable. Now she can hide behind the anonymity of the internet and run this terrible digusting website which feeds her ego. When you do business with public you are bond to run into someone that no matter what you do you cannot please. That's her and the people that file these riduclas complaints on her site. You should first and foremost take it to the person that you think wronged you and attempt to work it out as normal adults would. You should not sit in the sand box and fling sand...or in this case, kitty litter. Get a life Rosemarie, everyone that reads your drivel agrees that you have way to much time on your hands. The court document that you have just put on your site about Debi Mitchell, well let's see now, Debi has been out of jail for two years and that case is almost 4 years old. Get over it and move on. And really, you have so little luck finding out things about methat you have to re-write a court document to look like it is about me? That is fraud! And why do you not print all the emails that you get from people that have written to tell you all the good things about me? The ones that you have not been able to suck in with your lies. Where are those emails that support me and tell you the truth? Where is the email Dawna wrote you telling you she made a mistake? She doesn't understand why you only printed the one that she wrote in a panic, not the corrected one. Where is that one? And most of all where is your proof? You have nothing to back up the garbage that you spew. But I have a lot of documentation of your constant lies, all the complaints that you have made that have all been resolved in my favor. What about the lies you told CFA? I still have a cattery, in good standing...and you don't. Bet that just gauls you doesn't it? And the 7 former customers...most of them are you! Shame on you! Making complaints to yourself severally compromises your credibility! IF you ever had any!