anonymousn
ocoee,#2REBUTTAL Owner of company
Fri, May 10, 2013
I am a former member of Northwest Community Church. I have witnessed incidents that mirror those you have described. It makes me sad to hear that they are still practicing the same kind of cultish bullying. The worst part about it is that you may never be able to look at other Christians in a positive light, and therefor, never look at God either. They are doing more harm than good. Reading some of their responses here is just proof that they were never coming from a good place in their heart to begin with. Shame on them. I am sorry that this happened to you. Thank you for speaking out.
Snuffy
Claremore,#3General Comment
Mon, March 25, 2013
Anonymous, I'm not a member of Northwest Church. I don't know the persons of whom you speak. Heck, I don't even go to any church anymore and it's unlikely I ever will. But let's get real: what exactly did you think you would find when you went to a cell group that is a functional part of a CHRISTIAN church? What makes a Christian church "Christian," since you seem to believe the cell hosts aren't Christ-like at all?
I would be willing to bet my last nickel that a cell group belonging to a Christian church will be talking about Jesus. I'm sure if Buddhists had cell groups, they'd be talking about Buddhism; if Hindus had cell groups, they'd be talking about Vishnu and their other deities. I'm sure if a non-Buddhist or non-Hindu were to attend the respective cell groups, some overture would be made toward the "non" to lead them into the fold. Why in the world did you think you wouldn't be asked about your faith in Jesus if you went to a Christian cell?
How about if I go to an atheist group cell and then proceed to tell them, week after week, that they're wrong about this "no god" thing, refuse to not believe the way they don't believe, but insist on attending every week and come in late consistently, all because I like the stories? When the cell hosts grow weary of my antics, should I blast them on RipOffReport.com because they "didn't act humanist to me?"
So you went there for help, as you claim they are there to "help women in distress" (I don't see that claim made anywhere on the church's website, not even finding any mention on Craigslist but I may be looking in the wrong place). Whatever the distress would be, did you think a Christian cell would not bring Jesus into the equation? You said you enjoy the lessons...did you actually hear of any lesson that did not involve Jesus or God or Bible verses about either?
Why is it so important that you continue to attend this cell? You want to attend a cell, belonging to a Christian church, be completely accepted by those who believe in Jesus, are Christians, most likely take "The Great Commission" seriously, but you take offense when they try to get you to "accept Jesus?" How exactly do you take part in the discussions/lessons? Do you listen and politely discuss or do you basically scoff at their beliefs during discussion? And perhaps punctuality is not important to you, but it is important to most of the rest of the world. When you come in late consistently, you disrupt things for those who arrive on time.
Kudos to RipOffReport for their defense of First Amendment rights. But, and this is just my observation, your statements cross the line into libel/defamation of character. I suppose it would not be Christ-like if this couple decided to follow-up legally though, right?
My advice: Your beliefs would be more in line with the Unitarian Universalist church. Belief in a particular dogma is not important there; they welcome all souls.
My opinion: you have an extra large chip on your shoulder; I'd say it's a metal chip that flew off of the big axe you're grinding.
SonofGodKingDavid
Orlando,#4UPDATE Employee
Tue, September 04, 2012
Sounds like you have some issues of your own. Rick and Laura are successful, kind, and caring people who devote their time, and their lives to God and are under accountability to do so. They have a house, a family, and are successful in their business and financial lives. They take time out of their week from an already exhausting schedule of responsibilities to pour into people who want to change and heal issues in their lives.
It looks like you've written an awful lot (mostly venting your frustration at an offense you've taken to boundaries that they have set up). Healthy boundaries, nonetheless you should get healing yourself...because anyone can post angry ignorant dribble over the internet. They fact of the matter is, I look at their lives and I see your babble...it's clear to me who needs healing.
Stacey
Dallas,#5Consumer Comment
Wed, January 07, 2009
You hit the nail on the head
Bobby D
Washington,#6Consumer Comment
Wed, January 07, 2009
Or maybe today you prefer to be called Melissa...or Alice,Alicia,Rach or one of the aliases you use here to agree with your "very beautiful asian female" self. My advice is this: get some help. I'm by no means an expert in pretty much anything, but I'll throw some ideas out there. Education is an important part of any endeavor - though I don't need to tell you that, what with you having a Master's degree and all. I've found that the Wikipedia website can be a useful place to begin research. As reference, here are some of their pages you could check to get you started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_complex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_Personality_Disorder (((ROR redacted))) I suppose you've already taken steps toward treating your chronic fatigue and olfactory issues. And I'll suggest that a healthy diet is a good idea for everybody. Maybe cut your fast food intake down to fewer than fifteen meals a week. You'll feel better, and save money. Good luck, and bless your heart!
Anonymous
Miami,#7Author of original report
Thu, November 06, 2008
I'm not exactly sure what is going on with the abusive bullying women of this church. Not all of them are this way and not saying they are all bullies.. by nature...but their 'defense' of their church church members, and the lack of caring abuot the abuse of an innocent individual who did nothing wrong to them but has been picked on ridiculously shows they are some really screwed up people, and kind of keeps proving my point about the posts I have ahd to write. Unfortunately I can't defend myself during the times in which the members begin 'bullynig' me so I have to report here to try to get some justice....after being 'banned' from the last 'cell group' I attended...for no reason again...I tried going to another cell group that I had been to before for several weeks...the group begins at 7 and I arrived at 7:15...they weren't even having group but a fun night....and watching a movie...upon walking in-- I asked some questions whether they were having group or not...and was almost immediately 'interrogated' and in a very rude way by one of the girls in there...she began by claiming that I had been to 'another cell group" and since she knew I went there...I assumed she knew about what had happened...this is mostly written towards that particular girl who felt she could insult me or sort of corner me with things...where I was still being nice and almost defenseless because if I really had to defend myself against her statements I would have gotten upset....and was trying to avoid a fight or having to leave...instead of thinking...ok this person was wrongly removed from two groups for no erason....or kicked out of one-- for no reason again....this girl said to me statements like "how many more are you going to go to" ie or get kicked out of-- they have treated me as if I did something wrong...when I just go in there keep to myself or try to chat and have to endure ridiculous abuse from these jerks and in my opinion awful people....is this kindergarten where you get together to pick on the 'lone sheep' or anyone...this girl kept asking me "why do yuo keep coming here"?? if you dont believe in "GOD"....she then began making more slanderous statements about my own beliefs when I explainde to her-- that I believed in God and I was coming because it was a women's gruop that teaches spirituality and I like the lessons..what's so wrong is they have people coming to their group really liking and wanting to come to learn and getting something positive otu of it-- and not only are they not allowing that persno to come...they are abusing the person so badly and now trying to get them kicked out of every group they try to go to-- not only depriving them of the experience or lessons but trying to make them look bad or as if they have ill motives or are suspicious in some form..and now making every experience they try to come to just hell or interrogating etc...and it is just flat out abusive and mean behavior and bullying.....she had no right treating me in that way along with many other things she said tome...she kept questioning/interrogating in a bullying type way while I had to keep defending myself....it's strange to me how these 'b*tches" in my opinion are doing this to someone who is peaceful/nice/mild mannered and comes for the lessons but now is being questioned/harassed for their own beliefs...what they are doing is so wrong and they have no right doing this to anyone....and thinkin they can treat someone in this way and just get away with it... they almost seem to be trying to bring out 'anger' or project what they want to see in th person by constantly picking on the person and asking them why they're coming...wht they beileve in-- the girl said "well all we teach is JESUS CHRIST so if you're so against jesus...why are you coming"...more garbage and bs....basically trying to make you feel like crap and putting you in a corner...I explanied to her Im not against jesus...and believe in jesus...she then tried to make up more lies about what I believe or assumptions...which I had to keep defending and saynig...no that's not what I believe in-- more reasons to try to get me to not come or leave or put me down...She said something about how I can't comment on what is 'christian like behavior' and I explained to her that kicking a friend out of your house for being 'late' isn't Godly behavior and it's mean and I would never do that to someone...she got defensive and began defending that and asying "you dont KNOW if it's christian like"....or something to that extent...basically...just being childish immature rude mean for no reason towards someone who already has been mistreated consistently for no reason....and even said 'well the last group you went to you had problems with"...when the last group I went to-- i went to once then was told by the girl the next day not to come back...the other women didn't say anything...or address me personally in any form....and most of the time are pretty cold/rude to you anyway....and won't talk to you....in fact when I go to those gruops I go not being treated very well and ignored most of the time....and wanting to go to a lesson and get something positive out of it...and leave...these women that claim to be a 'women's group'...are not allowing peopel to even do that and on top of abusing them terribly continue abusing that one specific person....and just will not stop and instead of stopping the wrong treatment are saying to the person "why do you keep coming back...if u keep getting kicked out"...to me this is horrible....these women imo are just terrible people....religion or not their behavior is awy out of line and out of control I think....and very immoral....they are picking on and consistently bullying an innocent women ...who is trying to come to group meetings...the same girl who did this literally once said "think of this as a safe haven for all of you and you're all welcome here"...yet the moment the other really nasty women of the groups have talked to the first girl who had kicked me out....now there are tons of stipulations...you have to believe in Jesus to come to the group....you aren't welcome there...you have to be on time...you have to this and that...you're questioned for going, you're bullied or mistreated or interrogated...you're asked 20 questions and judged about your beliefs or slandered to yourself about what you believe in....the girl eevn said to me something to the extent of "peopel dont have to let you in their homes or can tell you to not come back"....of course-- people can go kick someone in the shins and run off....for no reason...does it make it right...of course not...it's totally wrong....the women who continue to want to treat people like me badly for no reason when we've done nothing wrong question our motives and beleifs...and make such a big deal out of just coming to a simple group...hanging out for an hour and leaving-- are really terrible awful people....no matter how 'christian' they pretend to be....no tehy are not christian by any means ...the girl also stated sometng to the extent of "the old testament has harsh punishments" as some form of bizarre ridiculously stupid insane reasoning or defense for kicking someone out of a house as punishment for being late....are these people really that low and stupid? this is nto a battle I even care to fight....its not even imoprtant but these pathetic women's treatment of otehr women....and what they do to people or how they treat people in their groups....is what is important and I'm just saying they have no right or place ever treating any human being the way they've treated me...and they way they continue to....they have no morals or character and are basically the most fake lying hypocrites you could ever find...on top of that the first girl spoken about-- continues lying to others about the first situation....and asying things that aren't true trying to defend herself....i don't understnad how so much blatant evil and hypocrisy can go on amongst people who claim to be so into God...also do not care but do not want to be the brunt of the bullies abuse and their hatred or whatever they have inside of them ...it is understandable that if someone says bad thigns about your church or groups....you might be upset or defensive...but to go to this extent in mistreating another person....as if it's a personal thing against teh church when it's not-- it's something against various members who've committed wrongs or mistreatment against another person....and continue doign the same thing to that person.. is just so wrong...and it shows the lack of morals these people possess and immaturity and really screwed up ways...im writing this because that girl who sat there interrogating me and trying to make me feel bad....had no right or place doing that....and she and the rest of these immoral stupid women who have done this to me...need to get some morals and character because have none....this doesnt go for all the people of the church...or groups or even the majority....it's just addressed to teh several who have been so mean and rude to women just coming trying to get some bible lessons and spiritual lessons and trying to come to a group with women....what kind of support groups are these that regularly ban and harass and mistreat women for no reason and continue treating them badly accusing them of things they haven't done or think or believe in...and seem to be supportive of each other's sick actions and behavior....the girl also stated "wel you never wrote something to retract those statements"....retract my statements?? every other cell group I go to im being banned or treated badly at now..or something is going on...and you want me to retract statements...of negative treatment when I'm just writing more reports on them...?
Anonymous
Miami,#8Consumer Comment
Mon, October 27, 2008
well just more problems with the groups associated with this church... really they do have good groups out there...that are supposed to be educational and help women out...and have many of them...the problem is that they are seemingly abusive or discriminatory to some women who they choose to be to, and are not open or friendly as they make themselves otu ot be. It does seem to be a guise for attemping to convert people to their religious beliefs, but it also seems that they use that to try to control others or even discriminate against others if they want....I have been to several of their groups.. overall there is nothing wrong with them-- they teach good messages to people and claim they are open to everyone but in reality they are not... another group I attempted to go to, the people were nice, but the group leader then spoke to the previous group leader who many of these issues began with... based on what the girl told her-- ie what was written on this particular website, the girl chose to tell me that I was not allowed back at her group and did not allow me to go to any events associated with her cell group. Even worse, she told me that if I was intersted in going to anything it would be to "church" on sundays if I wanted to 'socialize' with the people....and that she didn't know my 'intentions or motives' or something to that extent. I'm just a female trying to go to a group because it is educational and a good place to go to to meet nice people who believe in God and get some good lessons, understanding... it is so wrong of these women to treat other women in this way and to do so on a continuous basis....it is surprising that they act as if they are Godly and "Christ like" Quote people.... when they don't seem to follow the teachings of anything 'good' and discrimniate against women for absoultely no founded reason....and even try to tell them to go to "church" when they really don't have any interest in going to church. She also said something to the extent of "these groups are based on a christ consciousness" or based on the belief in Jesus....and that social events are 'not a good environment for me"... now why would social events not be a good environment for someone.... when I first went to her group I told her off the bat that I didnt believe in Jesus and that I was just there to listen to the lessons and get the positives I can get from the groups....and from what they teach ...she didn't object to it until she spoke to the other girl and claims she "didn't agree with what was written about the church."... regardless of how these people feel they just do not have the right or place to mistreat other women or treat them in such a stupid and derogatory nasty way while falsely claiming they hold 'women's groups' which are open to everyone-- everyone unless you are late, or unless you don't believe in Jesus Christ, or unless they decide they just do not want you there and want to try to make you feel like you've done something wrong or have malicious motives....yes believe me, women who are going to groups for the purpose of learning about God have ill or shady motives...especialyl those who some of these imo really pathetic women have constantly mistreated for absolutely no reason... what kind of 'women's groups' are these....those taht abuse and ban and kick out innocent women for absolutely no reason and continue with this negative sick behavior? and worse from personal experience almost being forced or bullied into converting....not everyone from these groups or church is like this and there are many nice people....but for those who are committing these what I feel are just complete 'wrongs' against others... shame on them in so many ways....
Clifford
South Haven,#9Consumer Comment
Sun, September 07, 2008
If you get an offer for help from a church group you are almost certainly going to get preached to. They're goal will always be to convert you to whatever crazy belief they have. It is the classic 'bait and switch' tactic. Stay away from the fundies, they are the scariest people on the face of the earth.
Stacey
Dallas,#10Consumer Comment
Sun, September 07, 2008
melissa aka alice aka whatever her name is - the real nut job Read all here rants about all the "psychos" and "losers" Guess once you look in the mirror then you will see the real "psycho" and "loser" get a life Stacey (whooopss posted my REAL NAME)
Mlmguru
Brooklyn,#11Consumer Comment
Sat, September 06, 2008
much drama for me to read. It is my educated and great opinion and observation that all these church going people are hypocrates.
Mlmguru
Brooklyn,#12Consumer Comment
Sat, September 06, 2008
much drama for me to read. It is my educated and great opinion and observation that all these church going people are hypocrates.
Mlmguru
Brooklyn,#13Consumer Comment
Sat, September 06, 2008
much drama for me to read. It is my educated and great opinion and observation that all these church going people are hypocrates.
Mlmguru
Brooklyn,#14Consumer Comment
Sat, September 06, 2008
much drama for me to read. It is my educated and great opinion and observation that all these church going people are hypocrates.
Anonymous
Miami,#15Author of original report
Fri, August 15, 2008
More info on these nutjobs. They are also part of the boredom crashers meetup group at meetup.com I emphasize This situation because what they did to me was so ridiculous and just flat out abuse And bullyingand demeaning garbage.to a woman who attends their group... Who they have treated so badly.as I sat there speaking to laura romot' the cell group Leader, as normal, I went to talk to her in a friendly way about thingsshe was very Blatantly rude to meseveral weeks agoshe began questioning my beliefs and asking me why I didn't accept jesuswhen I was in a friendly way trying to talk to her the way I usually doshe then claimed she didn't have time to debate religion' when it wasn't me debating religion, it was her. She then said she was there to preach the truth' as if I was in some way inhibiting her from doing so by inwardly not accepting her beliefs She is lke some minor form of a cultic preacher almostand was very rude and just flat out stupid and so ignorant. She then acted as if why did I come to their meetings Their meetings were a women's group' not a group for christians..she began getting pretty rude and kept emphasizing to not come late.and telling me to not come lateAnd be on time.these idiots and losers pretend they are some huge group there to like preach to the world and no one can disrupt' their bullsh8t or come in late.it is a group of about 6-8 peoplegenerally.the next week, she had some form of a field trip' and I tried calling her sveral times to ask herwhere it was going to be so I could determine if I could come or notshe purposely did not answer my phone calls and knowinglyso this stupid sick b itch could then attempt to teach me a lesson on being late' it seemed.i tried calling and ended up going to the meeting.and it was only the men's meeting and she still did not ansswer my calls so I asked the men if I could sit in on their meeting. They allowed me to, but then their meeting turned into a session to try to convert me to being a christianand almost forcefully or at leastcoercively.and in a predatory manner.like.let's convert her now' or try to pressure her.i am not stupid and am not going to be forced to convert like a mindless animalbut that's how these ignorant jerks were treating meeven asking me to just repeat the words' despite me claiming I didn't want toI was nice and humble about it and didn't get upset.though I was wondering what kind of freaks these losers were that they were trying to get someone to repeat words' when they didn't even believe in those things.i spoke to this a**hole rick romot.and then was explained that I need to form relationships' then I went to speak to his wife, this arrogant powertripped bi tch And if you know these people they seem nice enough and mildbut that is all a faadethey are not nice people at all and are totally messed up and jerks on another level and have a lot of deep issues to be treating people in this way.i spoke to his wife and reassured her I would try to be on time. She once again explained how she used to be late' and wasn't respecting people's time.that's understandablebut has also explained she simply neevr cared in the past and used to make fun of people and be a b itch.now that she has changed' and runs a group of her ownshe feels the need to be on a powertrip with whoever she can be to try to teach them a lesson on being on time' When they simply just can't.due to extenuating circumstances.their rules' became more and more stringent.whereas months agothe were nice enough but suddenly.. They were acting lke they were these important people who can create such inane dictatorial rules for a simple women and men's group'.that really didn't even consist of many people at all.i find people like this so completely sick sad and patheticthat they use any status of power' they have over innocent others for no reasonjust because they can' and can get away with it.and get away with treating people so badly.or enforcing pathetic rules' where rules shouldn't even exist.and even not informing people of them and then kicking them out... Her lying husband rick, also once again told me that.they weren't there to debate religion' when they were the psychopaths literally debating religion, talking about religion and trying to convert people against their willhe asked me why I came to their groupsThey never sat around preaching to other people why they come or don't comeor interrogating or hounding them I had no idea that they groups were about mass converting people.when they were advertised as women's groups' and taught spiritual messages.they experssedu can't get much out of itif you come late.im thinking.isn't that my problem if I don't get much out of itwhy do you care if I come late and miss out that's my loss and problems not yours.the last time I went to the groupI went late, and then chattedwith a couple of peopleand then ended up leaving.i was never told be there on time next time or don't come. I didn't go the next week and then the next week went and ended up going late and was kicked out very rudely and arrogantly by rick romot.Without any warning and all lies.and this psychopath just seemed to be thrilled about treating me that way and seemed to get off on it.like let's bully her this is fun. These idiots and sick stupid crazed people call themselvse christians' who are there to help others? Even worse.i tried going to their women's encounter.' Good griefI prepared for weeks for this.lots of annoying listening to nonsenseI went and due to my serious health condition (for which I was even going to the encounter for!) could not stay the night and asked them if I could go back the next day.of course notit wasn't just that they had rules they enforced.' They expressed to me well most people who leave just don't come back.' I expressed to them that I had no intention of leaving permanently' and could nto stay the night and there was no way i could stay because i could not sleep on the low cots because of my health...and would love to go back the next daybecause I prepared for this for weeks and was looking forward to it. Of course notthey cannot bend their rules for anyoneeven people needing help.if you do not abide by their rules' then you're not allowed to gowhich is so riduclous to meand not even thatit seemed to be that they acted like you just weren't interested and just wanted to leaveI asked themwell if ic ome back the next daywill I be allowed in? they said no'.what is the reason for their rules? Not sure.they didn't have a truly legitimate one.they had some but they can't accommodate people with serious conditions who are really in need of that.in fact some of them said "well most people who leave don't come back"...well what is the problem for them if you leave and 'do' come back-- they won't let you in apparently...and you waste an entire month of tiresome preparation and spend money on it too-- and they could care less...because all they care about is their sad powertrip and 'rules'...these are just some really pathetic and screwed up people with serious issues it seems.and they will not help you out or do anything for you unless you accept or believe in jesusI even called a girl afterwards Another cell group leader'.and her response to the situation was well, I guess you're probably disrupting the men's group'that is so strange to mecoming in for 5 secondsto go to a back room is disrupting a group of 3-4 loser idiot jerk guys' Not even classrooms have rules this bad.and are on such powertripsand full of such scumbags low lifes creeps and jerks.it is very shocking to encounter some meaningless trivial women's group' who is now hitlerishonce the porch doors close that's itno going in and out then ? no one is allowed to use the bathroom because they will be disrupting the men's group'.or leave the housethey must stay for an hour during the entire pitiful group'.otherwisewill they be kicked out too? Even worse the leader' of these groups admits to prior tons of sexual liaisons and al sorts of garbage and nonsenseand how they found God and are now not into all thatand they are preaching all their nonsense to people who are holy and not into all that nonsense anywayand actually do have God in their life and will keep saying you need a relationship with God. They are trying to teach to people who haven't even done half the garbage they once did and are acting like they are these enormous leaders who can then hold irrational rules on people once those people decide to not follow their belief system This place is a nightmare.and they are not there to help anyone but themselvesand if you do not follow the cultic jackasses' that hold these thingsthen you will be bullied and kicked out.shame on these ridiculous low lifes.their sick immature behavior And tehir manical intentions to force people into accepting their sick beliefs.i hope someone from that screwed up church reads this and does something about the literal 'witches' who run these cell groups-- they are not Godly or christian people by any means-- they aer totally messed up people with a huge lack of morals...narrow-minded, ignorant, coersive, confused, lost sick people...who have no respect for others if they choose not to, and will go to great lengths to unjustly discriminate against people or bully or pick on them simply because...they choose not to accept the beliefs they are preaching in their sad cultic cell groups....they also claim "there are many people out there who are lost"...well hopefully they will turn to themselves and understand they aer those very people...