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Complaint Review: Peretti Cane Corso - Brockton Massachusetts
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Peretti Cane Corso Breeder went back on signed contract and now tells me to take him to court because he would rather pay lawyers then me! Brockton Massachusetts
*Consumer Comment: Alyson is simply uneducated!
*Author of original report: I am Peretti Cane Corso does health test their dogs and is active in confirmation
*Author of original report: ***Title not correct
*Consumer Comment: After all that
*Consumer Comment: Well said
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: SLANDER, BLACKMAIL, DEFORMATION OF CHARACTER.....I OPERATE MY PROGRAM WITH THE HIGHEST STANDARDS WITH AND NO SACFICE!
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: 24 HRS RESPONSE TIME
*Author of original report: Thank you DevilsAdvocate4Education
*Consumer Comment: A little confused again, LOL.
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: CONTRACT NEVER FAILED. CONSUMER IMPATIENT! CONSUMER WILL GET MONEY ONCE SLANDER IS REMOVED
*Consumer Comment: Can't we all just get along?
*Author of original report: Pending resolution as of 3/26/2009
*Author of original report: RESOLVED AS OF 4/5/09
*Author of original report: RESOLVED AS OF 4/5/09
*Author of original report: RESOLVED AS OF 4/5/09
*Author of original report: RESOLVED AS OF 4/5/09
I was approached to purchase a female dogue de bordeaux from Mike Perette in late June of 2008. This dog was purchased by him from a breeder over seas. He paid $2500.00 for this female which including her shipping, he recieved her in December of 2007. Apparently, Mike had decided he did not want to breed Dogue de Bordeaux's but Cane Corsos instead. Mike is a friend of a very close friend of mine.
I met up at our friends house on around July 1 to meet "Zoe." At this time Mike talked Zoe up about her pedigree (which is a great) and her good health, stating her hips had been checked by his vet and everything looked great. At this time I also questioned him about Zoe's hernia and he stated that his vet had said it wasn't a big deal.
Mike was well aware of my desire to get into dog breeding and he preyed on that fact. I was 7 months pregnant at the time and I told him I had not planned to jump into dog breeding so soon. I asked him what he wanted and he said he needed $2000 for her asap because he was purchasing a Cane Corso from a breeder, but he would want something later on when she had puppies. I told him that that was fine, but is something were to happen to her or she was diagnosed with something that made he unbreedable I was not responsible to pay him any more money. He verbally agreed to this. I took Zoe home with me that day.
After I paid $2000.00 for Zoe, I was approached about another female dogue de bordeaux he wanted to sell me. The dog had went to live with his fiances family, but unfortunately it did not work out. He wanted to sell her to me for another $4500.00. I told him this was not possible for many reason, I had three dogs now at home, a new baby on the way, and unstable income. He told me over and over I could have as much time as I liked to pay for her, she's so worth it, etc.etc. I told him about a cousin of mine that loved Zoe and always wanted a top of the line dogue de bordeaux. I connected my cousin and he was willing to split the cost of the dog with me and we would go into a co-ownership of 50/50.
The $4500 was paid to Mike in full by December 1, 2008. To date I had give him $6500.00. I never had "as much time as I would like" to pay for these dogs. I was consistantly hounded by emails and phonecalls about when I would have the money. I was informed in the fall that he wanted $2500 more for Zoe for the "breeding rights" to her asap and he didn't want to wait until she had a litter because he had to pay someone money. I said I would agree to that but our contract would state if she was diagnosed with anything he was refund me that money.
Around the 11th of December, Mike Perette signed a contract stated that I would be refunded the money in this event. The contract we signed regarding the second dog, did not have this written, after my cousin had the dog he said he would not be willing to do the same for the other dog, I had no choice but to honor this because this dog was now living with my cousin and I couldn't just say I needed to give the dog back.
In the beginning of January 2009 I had Zoe's hips checked thorugh a procedure called a PennHip, the vet called me with the bad news stating her hips were terrible and she would score very low. I called Mike with this information, he proceded to tell me this was impossible and asked why I would pay to have this procedure done (even though it was a requirement to use a stud dog from a breeder he had referred me too). He said he checked her hips and everything was fine. I called his vet and he said Zoe was only brought in for a routine "puppy exam" and he never would have given insight on what the dog would be, he also told me that Zoe's hernia would need to be repaired even if she weren't to be breed but especially if you were. He also stated that poor hips and a hernia alone would classify her as unbreedable. When I contacted Mike with this information, he claimed his vet was saying this because he did not want the average dog owner breeding their pets. I took this information with a grain of salt. A week later I recieved the scores for Zoe's hips, she scored in the less then 10%, but was free from dejenerative joint disease. He said to me this was good news and she passed! There are NO passing and failing scores for PennHips BUT it clearly states on the report: As a minimum breeding criterion, we propose that breeding stock be selected from the population fo animals having hips in the tighter half of the breed. Zoe was at the bottom of the barrel. He told me to contact the breeder about still be able to use her stud dog, I was not able to get a hold of her. He was able to get a hold of her and she said she would be willing to breed my b***h to a stud with very tight hips, but she would not be resposible for the outcome of the puppies, he informed her I would be selling them only as pets without a warranty. Originally I was told I would be able to sell show quality for $2000, but thats besides the point. She also said I would never her hernia repaired and a heart test done. He had given me a choice to not breed her before he got a hold of the breeder. Once he spoke to the breeder, he said since she would be willing to breed I would have to continue. He also made statements about breeders he knows breeding dogs with obvious hip displasia, he stated to me he was bringing he girls no matter what. Just breed up he said repeatedly.
I continued to listen to this man who had claimed he would "help" me through this process and be there for any guidance I needed or questions I had. On Wednesday, March 11, during a heart ultrasound done by a cardiologist heard a very low heart murmor. I was called by the vet to let me be aware of this, she said the cardiologist would have to do an ecocardiogram running an additional $300 to find out what was causing this murmor. I told her I would call her back. I called Mike and informed him of the situation, I told him I did not want to do the test because she had bad hips and now this. He told me I had no choice, I asked him if he would be willing to pay for it to be done. He told me no and that in fact is fiance would be going to the bank that afternoon to cash the last check he had from me in the amount of $250.00 because he needed it for a show that weekend, he said I had to have it done if thats what the breeder asked. I called back the vet and told her the procedure could be done. I was called an hour later that Zoe had mild sub-aortic stenosis, Zoe could not recieve heart clearance but my vet informed me to check with my breeder about what was done about this in this particular breed, because if fact she may still be bred.
I immediately went to the bank and stopped payment of the last check in the amount of $250.00. I called Mike and told him the outcome, he began to demand for the vets phone number, told me how could this murmor not been found earlier. I told him that it was so low it could only be hear with a the stethoscope used by cardiologists. I informed him I didnt know serious it was and when we spoke to the breeder of the stud dog we would now.
I did not make contact with Mike Perette over the phone after that for documentation purposes. Over the course of the evening I became very mad and angered by the whole situation, not to mention upset about the fact I have this dog now that maybe I can not afford to keep. I emailed Mike stating that even if she was breedable still, but in my heart I didnt think she was, I still wanted to be refund half of the breeder aspect I paid him in the amount of $1125.00 and I would find a healthy local stud that did not have that strict of health requirements, I said this but did say I thought this wrong and did not want to do this. He emailed me back stated no breeder guarantees the healthy of their puppies or that they were breeding quality or pays for vet bills. NONE of these statements are relevant to the agreement we had which eachother.
The next day I was able to speak with the breeder of the stud dog. She said she would absolutely not breed to my dog and that I need to have her spayed. I let Mike know this and he said he would now agree to the original offer of $1125.00, that offer was made if she was bred, which it was now confirmed that understand no circumstances would I be willing to breed this dog. He then informed me that all deals were off and he would not be paying me the $2500.00 that he agreed to. He told me to take him to court. He made contact with the original breeder of the dog in europe (I did as well) she said she would replace the dog with a puppy but I would need to send so BACK TO HER! I love my dog and I dont think I could ever part with her even if if she just wanted her back as a pet, but I believe she would be used for breeding overseas. Mike told me this is what she do and any other breeder would do this. I am a young women with 2 kids (that love Zoe), my other two dogs at home are neutured pets and I think of Zoe as a pet, hence why I told Mike from the start I would pay him $2000.00 to be a pet.
In conclusion, I have now been faced to take legal action on this matter. He as threatened to make sure no breeder will ever do business with me and the only dogs I will be able to breed with are those in a pound. He tried to push his breeding practices on me, he states in one email "you have been a headache from day one." I believe he made this statement because I came to him with the problems these dogs had. He so badly wanted me to not care and just breed her so he could keep his money. Unfortunately for him, I did not want to be in breeding for the money.
This man is not honest and does not stand by his word.
Alyson
pembroke, Massachusetts
U.S.A.
I met up at our friends house on around July 1 to meet "Zoe." At this time Mike talked Zoe up about her pedigree (which is a great) and her good health, stating her hips had been checked by his vet and everything looked great. At this time I also questioned him about Zoe's hernia and he stated that his vet had said it wasn't a big deal.
Mike was well aware of my desire to get into dog breeding and he preyed on that fact. I was 7 months pregnant at the time and I told him I had not planned to jump into dog breeding so soon. I asked him what he wanted and he said he needed $2000 for her asap because he was purchasing a Cane Corso from a breeder, but he would want something later on when she had puppies. I told him that that was fine, but is something were to happen to her or she was diagnosed with something that made he unbreedable I was not responsible to pay him any more money. He verbally agreed to this. I took Zoe home with me that day.
After I paid $2000.00 for Zoe, I was approached about another female dogue de bordeaux he wanted to sell me. The dog had went to live with his fiances family, but unfortunately it did not work out. He wanted to sell her to me for another $4500.00. I told him this was not possible for many reason, I had three dogs now at home, a new baby on the way, and unstable income. He told me over and over I could have as much time as I liked to pay for her, she's so worth it, etc.etc. I told him about a cousin of mine that loved Zoe and always wanted a top of the line dogue de bordeaux. I connected my cousin and he was willing to split the cost of the dog with me and we would go into a co-ownership of 50/50.
The $4500 was paid to Mike in full by December 1, 2008. To date I had give him $6500.00. I never had "as much time as I would like" to pay for these dogs. I was consistantly hounded by emails and phonecalls about when I would have the money. I was informed in the fall that he wanted $2500 more for Zoe for the "breeding rights" to her asap and he didn't want to wait until she had a litter because he had to pay someone money. I said I would agree to that but our contract would state if she was diagnosed with anything he was refund me that money.
Around the 11th of December, Mike Perette signed a contract stated that I would be refunded the money in this event. The contract we signed regarding the second dog, did not have this written, after my cousin had the dog he said he would not be willing to do the same for the other dog, I had no choice but to honor this because this dog was now living with my cousin and I couldn't just say I needed to give the dog back.
In the beginning of January 2009 I had Zoe's hips checked thorugh a procedure called a PennHip, the vet called me with the bad news stating her hips were terrible and she would score very low. I called Mike with this information, he proceded to tell me this was impossible and asked why I would pay to have this procedure done (even though it was a requirement to use a stud dog from a breeder he had referred me too). He said he checked her hips and everything was fine. I called his vet and he said Zoe was only brought in for a routine "puppy exam" and he never would have given insight on what the dog would be, he also told me that Zoe's hernia would need to be repaired even if she weren't to be breed but especially if you were. He also stated that poor hips and a hernia alone would classify her as unbreedable. When I contacted Mike with this information, he claimed his vet was saying this because he did not want the average dog owner breeding their pets. I took this information with a grain of salt. A week later I recieved the scores for Zoe's hips, she scored in the less then 10%, but was free from dejenerative joint disease. He said to me this was good news and she passed! There are NO passing and failing scores for PennHips BUT it clearly states on the report: As a minimum breeding criterion, we propose that breeding stock be selected from the population fo animals having hips in the tighter half of the breed. Zoe was at the bottom of the barrel. He told me to contact the breeder about still be able to use her stud dog, I was not able to get a hold of her. He was able to get a hold of her and she said she would be willing to breed my b***h to a stud with very tight hips, but she would not be resposible for the outcome of the puppies, he informed her I would be selling them only as pets without a warranty. Originally I was told I would be able to sell show quality for $2000, but thats besides the point. She also said I would never her hernia repaired and a heart test done. He had given me a choice to not breed her before he got a hold of the breeder. Once he spoke to the breeder, he said since she would be willing to breed I would have to continue. He also made statements about breeders he knows breeding dogs with obvious hip displasia, he stated to me he was bringing he girls no matter what. Just breed up he said repeatedly.
I continued to listen to this man who had claimed he would "help" me through this process and be there for any guidance I needed or questions I had. On Wednesday, March 11, during a heart ultrasound done by a cardiologist heard a very low heart murmor. I was called by the vet to let me be aware of this, she said the cardiologist would have to do an ecocardiogram running an additional $300 to find out what was causing this murmor. I told her I would call her back. I called Mike and informed him of the situation, I told him I did not want to do the test because she had bad hips and now this. He told me I had no choice, I asked him if he would be willing to pay for it to be done. He told me no and that in fact is fiance would be going to the bank that afternoon to cash the last check he had from me in the amount of $250.00 because he needed it for a show that weekend, he said I had to have it done if thats what the breeder asked. I called back the vet and told her the procedure could be done. I was called an hour later that Zoe had mild sub-aortic stenosis, Zoe could not recieve heart clearance but my vet informed me to check with my breeder about what was done about this in this particular breed, because if fact she may still be bred.
I immediately went to the bank and stopped payment of the last check in the amount of $250.00. I called Mike and told him the outcome, he began to demand for the vets phone number, told me how could this murmor not been found earlier. I told him that it was so low it could only be hear with a the stethoscope used by cardiologists. I informed him I didnt know serious it was and when we spoke to the breeder of the stud dog we would now.
I did not make contact with Mike Perette over the phone after that for documentation purposes. Over the course of the evening I became very mad and angered by the whole situation, not to mention upset about the fact I have this dog now that maybe I can not afford to keep. I emailed Mike stating that even if she was breedable still, but in my heart I didnt think she was, I still wanted to be refund half of the breeder aspect I paid him in the amount of $1125.00 and I would find a healthy local stud that did not have that strict of health requirements, I said this but did say I thought this wrong and did not want to do this. He emailed me back stated no breeder guarantees the healthy of their puppies or that they were breeding quality or pays for vet bills. NONE of these statements are relevant to the agreement we had which eachother.
The next day I was able to speak with the breeder of the stud dog. She said she would absolutely not breed to my dog and that I need to have her spayed. I let Mike know this and he said he would now agree to the original offer of $1125.00, that offer was made if she was bred, which it was now confirmed that understand no circumstances would I be willing to breed this dog. He then informed me that all deals were off and he would not be paying me the $2500.00 that he agreed to. He told me to take him to court. He made contact with the original breeder of the dog in europe (I did as well) she said she would replace the dog with a puppy but I would need to send so BACK TO HER! I love my dog and I dont think I could ever part with her even if if she just wanted her back as a pet, but I believe she would be used for breeding overseas. Mike told me this is what she do and any other breeder would do this. I am a young women with 2 kids (that love Zoe), my other two dogs at home are neutured pets and I think of Zoe as a pet, hence why I told Mike from the start I would pay him $2000.00 to be a pet.
In conclusion, I have now been faced to take legal action on this matter. He as threatened to make sure no breeder will ever do business with me and the only dogs I will be able to breed with are those in a pound. He tried to push his breeding practices on me, he states in one email "you have been a headache from day one." I believe he made this statement because I came to him with the problems these dogs had. He so badly wanted me to not care and just breed her so he could keep his money. Unfortunately for him, I did not want to be in breeding for the money.
This man is not honest and does not stand by his word.
Alyson
pembroke, Massachusetts
U.S.A.
16 Updates & Rebuttals
Alyson1123
pembroke,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
RESOLVED AS OF 4/5/09
#2Author of original report
Mon, April 06, 2009
This matter has been resolved as of 4/5/2009. I received a signed settlement from Mike and repayment will begin after Zoe's spay on 4/14/2009. I have learned a lot in the last few months. Hopefully, I can take something negative and redirect it in a positive way. I am most looking forward to putting this in the past and going full steam into the future, taking with me what I have learned. Everyone, in any industry, is accountable for their actions, I myself will be held accountable for making this information public in the first place. That being said, if anyone has a questions or concerns about my actions, please contact me directly through my website www.bostonbordeaux.com.
Alyson1123
pembroke,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
RESOLVED AS OF 4/5/09
#3Author of original report
Mon, April 06, 2009
This matter has been resolved as of 4/5/2009. I received a signed settlement from Mike and repayment will begin after Zoe's spay on 4/14/2009. I have learned a lot in the last few months. Hopefully, I can take something negative and redirect it in a positive way. I am most looking forward to putting this in the past and going full steam into the future, taking with me what I have learned. Everyone, in any industry, is accountable for their actions, I myself will be held accountable for making this information public in the first place. That being said, if anyone has a questions or concerns about my actions, please contact me directly through my website www.bostonbordeaux.com.
Alyson1123
pembroke,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
RESOLVED AS OF 4/5/09
#4Author of original report
Mon, April 06, 2009
This matter has been resolved as of 4/5/2009. I received a signed settlement from Mike and repayment will begin after Zoe's spay on 4/14/2009. I have learned a lot in the last few months. Hopefully, I can take something negative and redirect it in a positive way. I am most looking forward to putting this in the past and going full steam into the future, taking with me what I have learned. Everyone, in any industry, is accountable for their actions, I myself will be held accountable for making this information public in the first place. That being said, if anyone has a questions or concerns about my actions, please contact me directly through my website www.bostonbordeaux.com.
Alyson1123
pembroke,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
RESOLVED AS OF 4/5/09
#5Author of original report
Mon, April 06, 2009
This matter has been resolved as of 4/5/2009. I received a signed settlement from Mike and repayment will begin after Zoe's spay on 4/14/2009. I have learned a lot in the last few months. Hopefully, I can take something negative and redirect it in a positive way. I am most looking forward to putting this in the past and going full steam into the future, taking with me what I have learned. Everyone, in any industry, is accountable for their actions, I myself will be held accountable for making this information public in the first place. That being said, if anyone has a questions or concerns about my actions, please contact me directly through my website www.bostonbordeaux.com.
Alyson1123
pembroke,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
Pending resolution as of 3/26/2009
#6Author of original report
Sat, March 28, 2009
Please note, I was contacted by mike on Thursday and we have a pending resolution. I am anticipating having this issue done and over with in the next few days. I will post a final statement at a later date.
Devilsadvocate4education*just My Opinions*
Las Vegas,Nevada,
U.S.A.
Can't we all just get along?
#7Consumer Comment
Thu, March 19, 2009
Thank you Mike for your response and for losing the caps :-). The tone' of a response to a complaint can be extremely important and very much read into, sometimes more than the actual complaint in my experience. Removing the report? It doesn't happen. Not even if the original poster asks. It can only be updated. We are all informed of that when we check the submit box, read the terms of service (#5), and if you click and read the want to sue rip off report' it also explains that they are not removed and why (right in the beginning, #2). Once we post, it is their property, not ours I believe, and their reasons make sense to me at least. Alyson now has no control over this post and whether or not it remains, nor am I sure if that is a legal reason for breaching a contract if that's the case. So, the only thing to be done really is to update and post to the report. I am also unsure of the libel issue for several reasons. Alyson appears to be stating her opinions of the situation, and the truth as she sees it (accurate or not doesn't really matter I believe). Again, she also gave a glowing review of your dogs and your kennel, but says you are not wanting or willing to honor a contract between the two of you as agreed upon. She does not appear to have made the whole thing up out of thin air as there was clearly an interaction and a contract between the two of you. It does not appear that she has knowingly made a completely false statement with no other intent but to cause damage to you just based on the interactions in this report. Several statements (detrimental) about Alyson have also been made in this report. I think we all understand that you did not breed the dog and there are many people that understand problems can happen even with the best breeding program and the healthiest sire and dam and even the ACTUAL breeder here seems to have great intentions. But you apparently did in fact sell the dog. Was the original purchase contract transferred to Alyson (not standard') when she made the purchase from you or were the conditions the same or something? Otherwise, the contract between you and Alyson and the contract between you and the breeder when you purchased the pup would actually be two different and separate contracts which wouldn't have anything to do with each other unless contained in the contract between you and Alyson. As I choose not to use inanimate objects I am going to use a pet store. A purchase contract between a breeder and the pet store and a purchase contract from the store to the purchaser are two different things. Now, the pet store may put certain things in the contract which pertain to the contract between the store and the breeder, but ultimately they are two different and separate contracts between different and separate parties. Let's say the contract between the breeder and the store says one thing, but the store's contract must contain and cover certain things pertaining to the state's lemon laws and they are actually different. Well, if something goes wrong pertaining to that, it will be the store which eats it as there contract from the breeder does NOT cover that and the contract between the store and the purchaser does. The issue seems to be over the money paid towards breeding rights and not the money paid towards the pet price. This isn't exactly standard , so the contract between you and Alyson (and the actual details, terms and conditions) would appear to be the key to the resolution. Your posts about standard protocol and refunds are a great example and maybe a look into the other side for buyers, but are based on a standard' contract and replacement/refund policy. Per Alyson's report, you would be keeping a portion of the price (that paid to keep the animal as a pet but refunding the price of the breeding rights as the dog is not breeding material which would be like a buyer choosing to NOT return the pet for a refund or replacement per a standard' pet purchase contract, wouldn't it). It seems to me there are some major misunderstandings here and not necessarily anyone out to get' anyone else. If you go to such lengths to try and keep those who buy your puppies happy they are very, very lucky. But we all know it is the contract which matters in the end. Seller's contracts tend to change quite a bit as experience grows and situations occur and they learn that they need to put this in, or take that out, or whatever, because it came up, wasn't there and you have to eat it and learn from it and make sure it is there and clarified from then on. Buyers need to make sure the contract is good enough for them in the beginning because it doesn't change later if you decide it isn't what you want as well as that THEY must follow the contract if they expect the seller to. If it is good enough when you sign it, it's going to have to be good enough later, so make sure you are happy with it and actually read and understand it :-). This whole thing just seems so sad to me as no one appears to be any sort of horrible person, just a big misunderstanding. *just my opinions*
Mike
Brockton,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
CONTRACT NEVER FAILED. CONSUMER IMPATIENT! CONSUMER WILL GET MONEY ONCE SLANDER IS REMOVED
#8REBUTTAL Individual responds
Mon, March 16, 2009
First, I would like to set the record straight that I did not deny a REFUND to Alyson Rotondo for Festina A.K.A Zoe. She did purchase two dogs from me over the course of the year and they were on payment plans because she could not afford them outright. Alyson and her family left on the summer day with Zoe and her child with no payment made for the dog. I wanted to make sure that the dog would adjust and work well in her household. Especially, with her children and other pets. Once she determined to keep the dog she was given all of her registration paper work with the thought that she was a trustworthy individual. I was referred to this individual from a very close friend who I also imported Logan who is the litter mate of Zoe. At the time of selling Zoe I would never have imagined that such a close friend would have such a malicious person associated with them. This report is deformation of character, blackmail and pure slander The statements are outrageous and NOT TRUE that she is alleging of myself. Alyson and her family at the time appeared to be a great young family and the dog would have had a great home. Alyson's primary intentions for purchasing this dog were to breed. She stated this would enable her to be a stay at home mom and do a hobby she loved. From the start I advocated Alyson if she was going to breed she had to breed to an excellent dog. The purpose of this was to produce high quality puppies. I also helped Alyson find a reputable breeder who would be a mentor to her program. So she makes correct decisions that will not pollute the Dogue de Bordeaux world. Alyson was instructed from the start that her dog and whoever she breeds to must have COMPLETE health tests prior to the mating. A month or so later I presented an option to Alyson if she was also interested in purchasing Daisy on a payment plan. She then agreed to because her cousin wanted a Bordeaux and especially one of this quality. So once again I let the animal leave with a young married couple with only a $500 payment for a $4500.00 dog out of trust once again. And to this day Daisy is doing extremely well and John and Amy are excellent people and have provided her with a great home! Thanks to the both of you! Alyson was given unlimited support regarding anything dog related and if I did not have the answer I found it out. From there she was referred to a well know respectable breeder from Canada who I was formally introduced to at a show. I got Alyson in contact with this breeder and she was beginning to start the process of the requirements to breed to her program. With the intentions to promote healthy dogs that are a true representation of the breed! Months pasted and I spoke to Alyson numerous times over random dog related issues. I must emphasize that she was always very emotional if she did not like the reality of what she was hearing. Every issue was bigger than it actually was. The beginning of Jan 2009 Alyson called me and indicated that Zoe has gone into heat which was earlier than anticipated. Not to mention the she due to have a child and the dog was not completely health tested or registered with the AKC- FSS. Obviously, she would have had a difficult time achieving all of the tests along with delivering a child and maintaining the household. Again, I want to re-iterate that I did not breed this dog. Alyson had a vet conduct a PennHip on Zoe and it was lower than normal. The breed does not have an exceptionally high ranking on the PennHip assessment anyways. There was laxity with no signs of DJD. With that I contacted the breeder directly because Alyson was so emotional and crying on the phone to get the breeders opinion and her recommendation. Alyson, was given the option to either proceed or not? She chose to proceed with the health tests required by the breeder. But she only did them backwards. The echocardiogram should have been the next logical test before a hernia repair. If the dog did not pass the heart for some reason why pay the additional cost and put the dog under again to spay her. What's next? The dog has a heart issue to our surprise. Alyson, was telling me that it was a murmur and I could not see how she had a murmur that was undetectable for almost 2 years? I asked her for the vet's number or to have them contact me to explain the issue. I also asked her to email me the results to discuss with my vet and the breeder in Canada. From that point on I did not hear from Alyson that day again even though I asked her to call me. I did speak to the recommended mentor and she explained that this is a known problem with this breed and the dog should not be breed. Zoe could potentially pass this gene on to future generations and they would be in the same situation. I did ask the mentor what to do and if the people in Croatia guarantee their dogs? She instructed me to notify them and see if they do provide any guarantee for health? So with great urgency and concern I contact Bojana the breeder of Zoe and she wanted verification of the health issues before working out a solution. Which is standard protocol before replacing a pup. REPLACING A DOG IS NOT LIKE GOING TO WALMART WITH A BROKEN PLAYSTATION AND EXCHANGING FOR A NEW ONE. YOU ARE DEALING WITH AN EXPENSIVE LIVE ANIMAL. What Alyson could apparently not understand is that there is standard procedures before replacing animals. Especially, difficult when you are dealing with another country and have to provide documentation to validate the issue and wait for a response. With that being said Alyson was very emotional and was continuously sending me emails on adding more complications to the issue. I had less than a day of notice to get everything verified by my vet and the ORIGINAL BREEDER. I should not have to assume total loss for a dog that I DID NOT BREED! I have a professional position that I have to uphold with my company which makes it difficult to resolve a dog issue at work. I am a man of word and I pride myself in that. If you don't have your word you have nothing.. Basically, I told Alyson I was done dealing with her until I did what I had to do. Never once did I indicate that I would not refund her money. Not to mention I am an idiot for not even reading the contract when I signed it in Walgreens parking lot. I never thought there would be an issue or she would turn malicious. Unfortunately, in life you have to learn from making decision out of trust. Never again will a deal be made without a breeder's contract or a dog sold not paid in full. Lesson learned not everyone is trustworthy when things go as not intended. Breeders who read this PLEASE learn from my mistake and trust NO one. The reputable breeders work too hard and invest tremendous amounts of time, effort, energy and money to make a better representation of the breed of choice. Just to be slandered by individuals who think breeding is quick and easy money. I can't believe that I have had to exhaust this much energy on a situation that had a simple resolution with time. I am going to close with indicating that Alyson is being refunded her $2200 contingent upon the removal of the slander and blackmail on the internet. I will also provide the email chain to the breeder in Croatia. If anyone has any additional questions or concerns please email me or introduce yourself at a show if you have any questions regarding my integrity or honesty to conduct business in an ethical manner.I hope that after reading this, people will take away valuable lessons regarding breeding and dealing with the public. Until next time here is the email chain to the breeder in Croatia which was initiated immediately once the health was verified. Hi Bojana, I am hoping that you will contact me back regarding the pup Festina that was purchased from you. I sold the dog to a friend of a friend and now the dog has low hip scores and a potential heart issue. I don't feel as though this should be soley my responsibility to replace a dog that I did not breed. Please let me know when you have a chance what your thoughts are and your guarantee with your program? Sorry, to bother you with this but now I am in a bad situation because the dog has not passed health tests for the hips and the heart. Much appreciated! [email protected] dateThu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:03 PM subjectRE: festina mailed-byhotmail.com hide details Mar 12 (4 days ago) Reply Hi ! I understand you very good ,!!!!! Why you not write me when you decided to sell Festina ?Why now when you have problem? Before i speak with Alyson and of course today I responded to the e-mail, so there is no need to worry !I hope that you will remain in future in your dog race .:)as you can see DDB is a very complicated rase !I hope that I will rebuke to solve the problem with Festina of course than i want her back to me! Bojana toBojana Bojana dateThu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM subjectRe: festina mailed-bygmail.com hide details Mar 12 (4 days ago) Reply Hi Bojana, I decided to move onto a different breed after 14 yrs with DDB due to health complications. I just found out yesterday that the dog has the issue once her heart was tested. She went to an excellent home and the woman wanted to do all health tests with the dog prior to breeding her to Country Road Kennel in Canada. Ivan knows this woman very well. I don't understand your last sentence....I hope that I will rebuke to solve the problem with Festina of course than i want her back to me! Please explain. [email protected] dateThu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:46 PM subjectRE: festina mailed-byhotmail.com hide details Mar 12 (3 days ago) Reply Mike,Mike ! I buy two dogs and when they grow have big displasy ,nobody give me other puppy! I want give second female puppy to Alyson ,but i dont have now,she must wait for puppy,,, Never i give documet of disease from Festina,,I want to see certificate (displasy and heart) from institute ... Principe in breeder :when puppy have problem ,breeder is not required that the give other puppy ,only half the price for next puppy and if the owner is not satisfied, he need to return dog ! I know a good race ( i have two very complicate race) but I was very strange that the Festina suddenly has so many problems .heart,displasy,,,, What if it happened once ?... toBojana Bojana dateFri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:00 PM subjectRe: festina mailed-bygmail.com hide details Mar 13 (2 days ago) Reply Bojana! This has turned into a nightmare for me. Would you be willing to replace with a puppy upon a vet spay document of festina. She has young children who are really attached to the dog and they can not part with her. Another breeder told me that the dog will most likely have a heart attack at sometime due to the heart condition. I will send you all documentation for all conditions. Also the shipping would be very expensive for both dogs. Thank you, Mike [email protected] dateFri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:12 PM subjectRE: festina mailed-byhotmail.com hide details Mar 13 (2 days ago) Reply I am speak with owner of Festina! Alyson ! You and me we have not had any contract ,especially when you sell Festina! Ally, You need to tell her that the dog will be spayed and she will ge the documentation for the hips and heart. And I will pay for the flight here and you will be reimbursed upon the removal of the slander. I will pay you cash and I will sell the puppy toBojana Bojana dateFri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:27 PM subjectRe: festina mailed-bygmail.com hide details Mar 13 (2 days ago) Reply Ally, You need to tell her that the dog will be spayed and she will get the documentation for the hips and heart. And I will pay for the flight here and you will be reimbursed upon the removal of the slander. I will pay you cash and I will sell the puppy. - Show quoted text - On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Bojana Bojana wrote: I am speak with owner of Festina! Alyson ! You and me we have not had any contract ,especially when you sell Festina! Bye [email protected] dateSat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:02 AM subjectRE: festina mailed-byhotmail.com hide details Mar 14 (2 days ago) Reply Mike I dont have female puppy now for Alyson now i promisse to her female puppy,but she must wait,,,I hope soon i have puppy for her,,You not need to pay nothing to me . I dont know why you want puppy now ,i dont have, really need to wait . Thank you very much! I will send her health documents to you. Thanks again, Mike toBojana Bojana dateSat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:58 AM subjectRe: festina mailed-bygmail.com hide details Mar 14 (2 days ago) Reply There is no rush on the puppy. I just want to make Allison happy. Thanks, Mike [email protected] dateSat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:02 AM subjectRE: festina mailed-byhotmail.com hide details Mar 14 (2 days ago) Reply Mike i hope to soon i have solution for this problem ! Here is the correct procedure to follow for listing a VALID fraud case! Please read below. The information listed below is directly from Rippoffreport.com. This is not a case of fraud but rather an individual trying to destroy the reputation of others. And also does not understand the protocols for a refund as a breeder and consumer. YOU MUST NOT call them threatening to file a report if they do not comply with your demands, as this may be construed as blackmail! You must first file a Ripoff Report, then fax them a copy, offering them a chance to rectify the wrong that they did to you. Explain that then, and only then, you will UPDATE your Ripoff Report in a positive way, if deserved.
Devilsadvocate4education*just My Opinions*
Las Vegas,Nevada,
U.S.A.
A little confused again, LOL.
#9Consumer Comment
Mon, March 16, 2009
Mike, all in all, this report did/does not actually reflect that badly on you. Your responses may raise a few eyebrows though (And please don't type all in caps as it is difficult to read and more likely to be skipped over among other things). Take a deep breath, calm down and re-read the report :-). You also may want to scroll down to the bottom of the page and click and read a couple of the links. None of the responses were detrimental towards you and Alyson even went so far as to say that YOU were an excellent breeder in her opinion but she just had not fully thought out the situation she was getting into and the contract that she signed. She made it clear in the original report that you were following the advice of someone who's breed it WAS, as it is not yours. She also stated she WAS offered a replacement. All of this looks good for you, not bad. She also made it clear she just wanted people to make sure to read and understand their agreements before they sign. She WILL be on the other side of this one day as there is NO control over living things and buyers can sure fool you sometimes. She'll learn why things are the way they are and what IS common and accepted practice and WHY. It just seemed that her dream fell into her lap with an opportunity too good to pass up before she was ready and she wasn't really aware of the way things work or why and got a bit of a crash course. Things kinda' went a bit backwards for her, but it sounds like she IS making an effort to learn and she will also learn as she gains experience (her contract will change many many times most likely as she deals with more and more people). She seems like a sweet person who really didn't/doesn't have a lot of knowledge yet of the world she is entering. That's all. She'll get there one day :-). Alyson, if you want someone else to bounce things off of you can email me at yahoo anytime (LOVE talking about my favorite subject). Mike, good luck at your show. *just my opinions*
Alyson1123
pembroke,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
Thank you DevilsAdvocate4Education
#10Author of original report
Sun, March 15, 2009
Thank you DevilsAdvocate4Education for posting your opinions, giving me an opportunity to answer your questions. I had been away and was unable to have internet access from the time of my original post and my second post. I have made all nessessary changes to my website that you mentioned. She definately will be spayed and I think your suggestion of posted that on my website is a great idea and I will be doing just that. When a final contract has come up regarding the sales of my future puppies I will also post that on my website if you would like to have a look at that. Trust me, I will never sell any puppy with a warranty/contract. I have a mentor that I feel very comfortable with, she has been in the breed for many years, in addition my vet is also a breeder/shower of Golden Retrievers and Labs and she too has offered her support. I have been trying to educate myself as best as I can. Every reputable breeder has to start somewhere, and I know Zoe was not going to be the start of a successful breeding program.
Mike
Brockton,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
24 HRS RESPONSE TIME
#11REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, March 15, 2009
FOR THE RECORD I WANT TO MENTION THAT ALYSON NOTIFIED ME OF THE ISSUE AND I CONTACTED HER MENTOR IN CANADA 3/12 FOR ADVICE AND HOW TO PROCEED? AND WHAT TO DO WITH THE DOG BECAUSE I WAS NOT SURE OF THE HEALTH AND NOT WILLING TO PROMOTE ANYMORE POLLUTION WITHIN THE BREED.I REQUESTED VET DOCEMTATION AND TIME TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE WITH PEOPLE FORM OTHER COUNTRIES. HER OWN FATHER AND HUSBAND ALONG WITH CLOSE FRIEND CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT SHE WOULD HANDLE A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHEN I GAVE HER MY TRUST SUPPORT AND A PAYMENT PLAN FOR HER DOGS. NOT TO MENTION THAT I WAS ALIGNING HER WITH A VERY SUCCESSFUL MENTOR TO DEVELOP HER KNOWLEDGE OF THE BREED. I WANT TO RE-ITERATE THAT SHE POSTED THIS CRAP WITHIN LESS THAN 24 HRS OF DIAGNOSIS. SHE NEED TO LEARN COPING MECHANISMS AND DEALING WITH DIFFICULT SITUATIONS IF SHE WANTS TO CALL HERSELF A BREEDER!!! I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A DETAILED EXPLANATION FROM MYSELF AND OTHERS TOMORROW. AND ON MONDAY MY ATTORNEY IS CONTACTING ALYSON AND THIS COMPANY FOR ALLOWING HER TO POST FALSE STATEMTENTS WITHOUT PROPER NOTIFICATION ACCCORDING TO THE SITE. MORE TO COME TOMORROW. MY MAIN FOCUS IS ON MY ANIMALS THAT GIVE BACK POSITIVE EMOTION RATHER THAN TURMOIL. I WISH BOSTON BORDEAUX ALL OF THE BEST LUCK IN THE FUTURE! DO SOCIETY A FAVOR FOCUS ON PARENTHOOD AND NOT DESTROYING PEOPLE'S HOBBIES THAT DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN. READING BOOKS DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR EXPERIENCE! SINCERELY , MIKE
Mike
Brockton,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
SLANDER, BLACKMAIL, DEFORMATION OF CHARACTER.....I OPERATE MY PROGRAM WITH THE HIGHEST STANDARDS WITH AND NO SACFICE!
#12REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, March 15, 2009
This is complete SLANDER, BLACKMAIL, AND DEFORMATION OF CHARACTER. I am currently preparing for a conformation show right now but will post the actual truth tomorrow afternoon. I have worked far to hard to have someone ruin my intregrity over immaturity and emotion. There is complications with animals and human health that are unpredictable unless detected with extensive testing, which is always a must to improve the true representation of the breed! I will asure one thing that my intregrity in the show ring and the local area has proven to many that the health of my program is my primary focus following confirmation. PLEASE AWAIT A DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE ACTUAL OCCURANCE OF EVENTS OF HOW I WAS WRONGFULLY SLANDERED ON THE INTERENT DUE TO EMOTIONS RATHER THAN WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE BREED. I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THAT I DID NOT BREED THE DOG WHICH WAS IMPORTED FROM CROATIA BUT I AM WILLING TO ALLOW HER CHILDREN TO KEEP THE DOG AND ALSO BE ENTITLED TO A FULL REFUND. ALYSON, POSTED THIS COMMENT TO DESTROY MY INTEGRITY BECAUSE SHE COULD NOT ACCEPT THAT THE FEMALE WAS NOT BREEDABLE AND TO ESTABLISH HER BREEDING PROGRAM FROM. I MYSELF LOST 5,000 THIS MONTH DUE TO HEALTH ISSUES BUT LOOKED AT IS AS A WIN BECAUSE I WAS NOT CONTAMINATING THE GREAT BREED WHICH I AM NOW DEDICATED TO....CANE CORSOS!!!!! SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARDS! Thankfully, I have been surrounded with the president of the Cane Corso Federation as my handler and Tony Scandy (breeder)who have been exceptional mentors to becoming member in developing the true representation of the breed! After speaking with Alyson's father and husband on a rational level the issue was easy to resolve once I was dealing with someone rational. I VOLUNTERED TO GIVE HER $2250 IN CASH AND THE BREEDER IN CROATIA AGREED TO RETURN A PUPPY FOR THE HEALTH ISSUES THAT I DID NOT BREED! I AM GOING TO ASK THE BREEDER TO SELL THE PUPPY AND I WILL ASSUME WHATEVER FINANCIAL LOSS TO GET ALYSONO ROTONDO OUT OF OUR LIFE. SHE IS DETRIMENTIAL TO ANYONE DOING BUSINESS WITH HER. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE ATTACHMENT TO THE ANIMAL BUT YOU SHOULD NOT ACT OUT IN A MALICOUS WAY OUT OF EMOTION! I HAVE WORKED FAR TO HARD TO CERTIFY MY DOGS IN HEALTH, TYPE, AND TEMPERMENT FOR YOU TO ATTEMPT TO RUIN IT. MORE FACTUAL INFORMATION TO COME AFTER THE SHOW TOMORROW. MY ATTORNEY WILL BE HANDLING THIS ISSUE ONCE I POST MY ENTIRE COMMENTS. I AM NOT DISHONEST OR A THIEF!!!! PLEASE AWAIT THE ENTIRE STORY TOMORROW AFTERNOON. ALSO A SUIT WILL BE FILE AGAINST THIS SITE FOR SLANDER AGAINST MY NAME AND THE ORIGINATOR. THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL!
Devilsadvocate4education*just My Opinions*
Las Vegas,Nevada,
U.S.A.
Well said
#13Consumer Comment
Sun, March 15, 2009
The original statement was posted to advise consumers to make sure all aspect of any contracts are well read and most importantly well understood before signing. - one of the most important lessons there is I think :-).
Devilsadvocate4education*just My Opinions*
Las Vegas,Nevada,
U.S.A.
After all that
#14Consumer Comment
Sun, March 15, 2009
I'm confused. After all that, there is a planned breeding anouncement for this dog on the Boston Bordeaux home page. This pretty much puts your whole complaint in question (among other things). Is she old enough to have some x-rays sent off to OFA? Has she been retested? How old is she? You're taking him to court because you can't breed a dog that you are planning to breed this spring?????? Between this report and saving that page to file alone, you may have a difficult time unless you post an actual spay certificate from your vet next. As you should be aware the purchase of show/breeding RIGHTS do not usually come with a guarantee of quality or ability so the agreement was a bit unusual in the first place but you DID get it in writing. SELLING THEM AS PETS WITHOUT A WARRANTY??????? WTF! That's not the case, right? Considering your own apparent expectations and the situation I would be really interested in reading your purchase contract if you do breed. Do you have any mentors? You don't appear to be that familiar with the whole breeding world at this point. Do you have your registration papers (AKC) and your DNA's done yet? Are you really going to start your line and your reputation like this? Is Boston Bordeaux really going to start their line by breeding Festina (A.K.A. Zoe) after filing a report and telling the world about how she's a mess and NOT breedable due to health issues which are beyond normal for the breed? So is she breedable or is she to be spayed? Some clarification please. *just my opinions*
Alyson1123
pembroke,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
***Title not correct
#15Author of original report
Sun, March 15, 2009
The title of the update was supposed to be "I am aware Peretti Cane Corso . . ." not "I am Peretti Cane Corso . . ." as this update was posted by the original poster. These are typing errors and are of no indication of my educational background.
Alyson1123
pembroke,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
I am Peretti Cane Corso does health test their dogs and is active in confirmation
#16Author of original report
Sun, March 15, 2009
I wanted to post an additional statement to clarify that in no way am I passing any jugement on the quality of cane corso's at Peretti Cane Corso, owned and operated by Mike Perette in Brockton, MA. In fact I am well aware that certain healths test have been performed/are in process/ or will be done prior to the breeding of any of his dogs. I am seen a few of them for myself and they are beautiful dogs. I have also been to his home, where is kennel is located, as stated on his website, and I believe it is a happy and healthy enviroment for raising, caring for, and breeding multiple dogs. I will also like to clarify once more that this dogue de bordeaux referred to in this case was not bred by Mike Perette. I would also like to state that in fact I am aware that NO dog is perfect. Zoe has become a very wonderful pet, our family loves her very much despite her health problems. If I had purchased Zoe as a pet, I would probably never been made aware of these conditions. The original statement was posted to advise consumers to make sure all aspect of any contracts are well read and most importantly well understood before signing. With that being said I do believe you will find a very nice representation of the breed with Mike Perette.
Eric&beth
Bridgewater,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
Alyson is simply uneducated!
#17Consumer Comment
Sun, March 15, 2009
We recently acquired a Cane Corso from a reputable breeder that we have known and trusted for years. We didn't feel comfortable flying our new puppy home. So we were going to drive there to pick him up. Our breeder informed us that Mike Perette was making the trip to pick up a puppy out of the same litter. We contacted Mike and he was considerate enough to pick our puppy up as well. Through the entire trip home Mike continued to call and up date us with his progress back to Massachusetts. He drove through many states, snow storms and terrible weather to get him home. Not only did he drive him back to our area, he was willing to bring our puppy to our house and even offered us a crate if we needed it. Further more he didn't want to accept gas money for the trip. Even after receiving our puppy, Mike continued to call and check up on him. In doing this favor, Mike went above and beyond in all aspects. Due to this chance meeting, we have become friends with Mike and his fiance Courtney and after reading this report we were absolutely appalled. Alyson clearly wrote this in a state of rage, from her own mistakes. There were many clues to those mistakes in her report. It is unfortunate that issues arose regarding this dog. In no way does any of this constitute a ripoff report. You can't have you cake and eat it too. When she was offered the new puppy in place of the dog she claims couldn't be breed, why didn't she take it. If you want to be a breeder that is what you have to do. For it to come to this online battle is outrageous. It disgusts us and we could never imagine anyone buying a dog from someone this incompetent. So stay away from her site Bostonbordeaux.com. Alyson is clearly uneducated and unstable. Sincerely, Eric and Beth
