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  • Report:  #168505

Complaint Review: Primerica - Troy Ohio

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- Tipp City, Ohio,
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Primerica
45 S. Stansfield Troy, Ohio, U.S.A.
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I had my "interview" last week after being contacted by phone. I was told that they got my name from a "company in south Dayton" (I have no idea what that meant). I have just recently re-located here and started to job interview, so I figured it was definitely worth a look.

Upon arriving for the interview, I was asked to fill out a short application and provide a few local references. Unfortunately, I have no local refs- I don't know anyone here yet with the exception of family (which I didn't think they'd want), so I put down 3 refs from where I came from- all 1000 miles from here.

I then was interviewed by a District Team Leader and another young lady who sat in on the meeting. I thought the whole thing was fairly professionally done, except for the fact that they wouldn't tell me anything about the actual job I would be doing. I was finally told that they believed I would be a good fit for their company and was asked to come back two days later to attend an "overview" meeting. I agreed to go to it.

I won't get into all the details why, but by the time I left the interview I was extremely puzzled by multiple issues. The whole thing was much more them pitching themselves to me than me pitching myself to them. I have no background in any kind of financial work- why would a company affiliated with CitiGroup want someone that didn't even have a degree in a business-related field?

When I got home, I decided to hop online to find out what I could. Oh, boy. Needless to say, after an hour or so of very entertaining reading I decided that I wasn't interested in a position with this company. I did not bother to attend the follow-up meeting. I figured I would hear from them fairly soon; I was prepared to tell them I simply wasn't interested, thank them, and hang up.

Well, it seems I was wrong. It's been multiple days and I haven't heard a word from them. I began to feel insulted; from what I could gather they should be harrassing me to no end at this point. It then occurred to me that because I don't know anyone here I AM ABSOLUTELY NO USE TO THEM. I won't be hearing from them because I have nothing to bring to their table in the way of future business. I told them I just moved here and didn't know anyone yet and when they saw that the references I gave live nowhere near here, I'm sure it was decided not to follow up with me. Why would they?

These people are only after your warm contacts. I'd bet 90% of their sales come from friends and family of their recruits. I'd love to see them prove otherwise.

I would stay far away from these folks.

Eric

Tipp City, Ohio
U.S.A.


5 Updates & Rebuttals

Jennifer

Antioch,
California,
U.S.A.
the problem with all this is ...Most of these people were brought in under the premise that this is a "job interview" - something you Primerica people seem to not want to acknowledge.

#2Consumer Suggestion

Tue, December 20, 2005

The problem with you Primerica reps that respond to all these postings is this: Many, many people complain on this site due to the fact that Primerica does not advertise themselves as a "business opportunity" (which is exactly what it is, MLM or not). Most of these people were brought in under the premise that this is a "job interview" - something you Primerica people seem to not want to acknowledge. Of course, if I were applying for a JOB (which this was advertised as) I would expect that they would not want family members as references (most JOB applications specify no relatives as references). Primerica asks for references without specifying why. People expect they are giving REFERENCES not LEADS. If you want people to stop thinking this is a scam, STOP ADVERTISING IT AS A JOB AND ASKING FOR REFERENCES!!!! ADVERTISE IT FOR WHAT IT IS -- A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY!!! TELL THEM UPFRONT THAT THE SO-CALLED REFERENCES ARE LEADS FOR THEIR "WARM MARKET." Quit saying you are HIRING because you are NOT, you are RECRUITING. Tell people what they are getting involved with instead of wasting peoples time when they don't want a business opportunity, they want a job. I have worked MLM - I used to sell Avon, I currently sell Tupperware. I have friends that work in a number of other MLM companies, including candle companies and Mary Kay. All of these companies have policies prohibiting reps from advertising JOBS when they RECRUIT. I know how MLM works, uplines, downlines, etc. I know money can be made by a combination of sales and recruiting. But when I was choosing what company to rep for, the one thing that sends up red flags for me is a company that won't tell you up front what it is they do. What is the big secret? IF Primerica had a better reputation, they could do like the local Avon lady does, advertise "start your own business" and "make money in your spare time" rather than hiding behind CitiGroup and saying that they are hiring managers. If you can't be honest from the start, how can anyone expect you to be honest in your other dealings?


Jennifer

Antioch,
California,
U.S.A.
the problem with all this is ...Most of these people were brought in under the premise that this is a "job interview" - something you Primerica people seem to not want to acknowledge.

#3Consumer Suggestion

Tue, December 20, 2005

The problem with you Primerica reps that respond to all these postings is this: Many, many people complain on this site due to the fact that Primerica does not advertise themselves as a "business opportunity" (which is exactly what it is, MLM or not). Most of these people were brought in under the premise that this is a "job interview" - something you Primerica people seem to not want to acknowledge. Of course, if I were applying for a JOB (which this was advertised as) I would expect that they would not want family members as references (most JOB applications specify no relatives as references). Primerica asks for references without specifying why. People expect they are giving REFERENCES not LEADS. If you want people to stop thinking this is a scam, STOP ADVERTISING IT AS A JOB AND ASKING FOR REFERENCES!!!! ADVERTISE IT FOR WHAT IT IS -- A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY!!! TELL THEM UPFRONT THAT THE SO-CALLED REFERENCES ARE LEADS FOR THEIR "WARM MARKET." Quit saying you are HIRING because you are NOT, you are RECRUITING. Tell people what they are getting involved with instead of wasting peoples time when they don't want a business opportunity, they want a job. I have worked MLM - I used to sell Avon, I currently sell Tupperware. I have friends that work in a number of other MLM companies, including candle companies and Mary Kay. All of these companies have policies prohibiting reps from advertising JOBS when they RECRUIT. I know how MLM works, uplines, downlines, etc. I know money can be made by a combination of sales and recruiting. But when I was choosing what company to rep for, the one thing that sends up red flags for me is a company that won't tell you up front what it is they do. What is the big secret? IF Primerica had a better reputation, they could do like the local Avon lady does, advertise "start your own business" and "make money in your spare time" rather than hiding behind CitiGroup and saying that they are hiring managers. If you can't be honest from the start, how can anyone expect you to be honest in your other dealings?


Jennifer

Antioch,
California,
U.S.A.
the problem with all this is ...Most of these people were brought in under the premise that this is a "job interview" - something you Primerica people seem to not want to acknowledge.

#4Consumer Suggestion

Tue, December 20, 2005

The problem with you Primerica reps that respond to all these postings is this: Many, many people complain on this site due to the fact that Primerica does not advertise themselves as a "business opportunity" (which is exactly what it is, MLM or not). Most of these people were brought in under the premise that this is a "job interview" - something you Primerica people seem to not want to acknowledge. Of course, if I were applying for a JOB (which this was advertised as) I would expect that they would not want family members as references (most JOB applications specify no relatives as references). Primerica asks for references without specifying why. People expect they are giving REFERENCES not LEADS. If you want people to stop thinking this is a scam, STOP ADVERTISING IT AS A JOB AND ASKING FOR REFERENCES!!!! ADVERTISE IT FOR WHAT IT IS -- A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY!!! TELL THEM UPFRONT THAT THE SO-CALLED REFERENCES ARE LEADS FOR THEIR "WARM MARKET." Quit saying you are HIRING because you are NOT, you are RECRUITING. Tell people what they are getting involved with instead of wasting peoples time when they don't want a business opportunity, they want a job. I have worked MLM - I used to sell Avon, I currently sell Tupperware. I have friends that work in a number of other MLM companies, including candle companies and Mary Kay. All of these companies have policies prohibiting reps from advertising JOBS when they RECRUIT. I know how MLM works, uplines, downlines, etc. I know money can be made by a combination of sales and recruiting. But when I was choosing what company to rep for, the one thing that sends up red flags for me is a company that won't tell you up front what it is they do. What is the big secret? IF Primerica had a better reputation, they could do like the local Avon lady does, advertise "start your own business" and "make money in your spare time" rather than hiding behind CitiGroup and saying that they are hiring managers. If you can't be honest from the start, how can anyone expect you to be honest in your other dealings?


Jennifer

Antioch,
California,
U.S.A.
the problem with all this is ...Most of these people were brought in under the premise that this is a "job interview" - something you Primerica people seem to not want to acknowledge.

#5Consumer Suggestion

Tue, December 20, 2005

The problem with you Primerica reps that respond to all these postings is this: Many, many people complain on this site due to the fact that Primerica does not advertise themselves as a "business opportunity" (which is exactly what it is, MLM or not). Most of these people were brought in under the premise that this is a "job interview" - something you Primerica people seem to not want to acknowledge. Of course, if I were applying for a JOB (which this was advertised as) I would expect that they would not want family members as references (most JOB applications specify no relatives as references). Primerica asks for references without specifying why. People expect they are giving REFERENCES not LEADS. If you want people to stop thinking this is a scam, STOP ADVERTISING IT AS A JOB AND ASKING FOR REFERENCES!!!! ADVERTISE IT FOR WHAT IT IS -- A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY!!! TELL THEM UPFRONT THAT THE SO-CALLED REFERENCES ARE LEADS FOR THEIR "WARM MARKET." Quit saying you are HIRING because you are NOT, you are RECRUITING. Tell people what they are getting involved with instead of wasting peoples time when they don't want a business opportunity, they want a job. I have worked MLM - I used to sell Avon, I currently sell Tupperware. I have friends that work in a number of other MLM companies, including candle companies and Mary Kay. All of these companies have policies prohibiting reps from advertising JOBS when they RECRUIT. I know how MLM works, uplines, downlines, etc. I know money can be made by a combination of sales and recruiting. But when I was choosing what company to rep for, the one thing that sends up red flags for me is a company that won't tell you up front what it is they do. What is the big secret? IF Primerica had a better reputation, they could do like the local Avon lady does, advertise "start your own business" and "make money in your spare time" rather than hiding behind CitiGroup and saying that they are hiring managers. If you can't be honest from the start, how can anyone expect you to be honest in your other dealings?


Tom

Hailton,
Ontario,
Canada
you got it all wrong

#6UPDATE Employee

Mon, December 19, 2005

i must commend you that at least you showed up to the interview, but after that its not so good. first "Upon arriving for the interview, I was asked to fill out a short application and provide a few local references. Unfortunately, I have no local refs- I don't know anyone here yet with the exception of family (which I didn't think they'd want), so I put down 3 refs from where I came from- all 1000 miles from here. " . just because you think that they don't want a family member does not mean that we don't want a family member. Did you ask? doesn't seem like it. Next, long distance references are usually fine, providing they are worthwhile. "I thought the whole thing was fairly professionally done, except for the fact that they wouldn't tell me anything about the actual job I would be doing." . We do not tell you what you will be doing, mainly because it is explained at the "overview meeting." which you did not show up to. "I won't get into all the details why, but by the time I left the interview I was extremely puzzled by multiple issues. The whole thing was much more them pitching themselves to me than me pitching myself to them. I have no background in any kind of financial work- why would a company affiliated with CitiGroup want someone that didn't even have a degree in a business-related field?" . We do pitch ourselves to you to see if you are interested in what we do. Not only that we don't need someone with a degree in insurance or mutual funds, because we train them and licence them ourselves. The education you need to do this, we will provide for you in this business. "When I got home, I decided to hop online to find out what I could. Oh, boy. Needless to say, after an hour or so of very entertaining reading I decided that I wasn't interested in a position with this company. I did not bother to attend the follow-up meeting. I figured I would hear from them fairly soon; I was prepared to tell them I simply wasn't interested, thank them, and hang up." . First of all going online when you first hear of a company or person is not a very good idea. go look for stuff on your president, probably find more than an hour of "entertaining reading" as you would say. You know who those reports you found were by? representative that didn't work hard enough so it didn't work for them so"IT DOESN"T WORK," which is actually a lie. look at the top people and that goes down the tubes. Others are by whole life sales agents obsessed with getting a commission, not with helping someone, and showing them what they can really get for the money they have.(you would have learned the concepts at the overview meeting which you didn't bother to show up to) You werent interested, thats fine. you then didn't show up to the next meeting to see what you would be doing for people. "Well, it seems I was wrong. It's been multiple days and I haven't heard a word from them. I began to feel insulted; from what I could gather they should be harrassing me to no end at this point. It then occurred to me that because I don't know anyone here I AM ABSOLUTELY NO USE TO THEM. I won't be hearing from them because I have nothing to bring to their table in the way of future business. I told them I just moved here and didn't know anyone yet and when they saw that the references I gave live nowhere near here, I'm sure it was decided not to follow up with me. Why would they?" . Well the first thing here is that fact that we don't need people who don't bother to show up, you are the 50% of people who lose because they just don't show up. You shouldn't feel insulted.we don't harrass people, its not how we work (we are not telemarketers). just because you don't know anybody where you are doesn't mean you have nothing to "bring to the table". It just means we need to work a little harder to get you talking to people. "Im sure it was decide not to follow up with me. Why would they?" you are not a are of the company, so you do not know what is really happening, your opinions should not be part of your argument, just the facts that can be backed up. just because you are sure of something does not mean that is is the absoulute truth about what is happening. find out the facts then back them up. "These people are only after your warm contacts. I'd bet 90% of their sales come from friends and family of their recruits. I'd love to see them prove otherwise. " OK this is so weak is scary to me. 1. we are not after your warm contacts, we work them until you can do it yourself then let you go from there, we do not take your warm contacts from you, they are yours. once you can handle them they are passed back to you and we no longer have contact with them unless you ask of it. 2. this about your own opinion, and not true facts, you do not know whether or not it is true. if you think about it, 90% of our sales coming from friends and family, it would run out pretty fast no matter how big your family is or your recruits family is. Actually most is from warm market referrals and little is friends and family, and bit is internal, people in the company buying the products the company has to offer. you have just been proven otherwise. We pride ourseves on correcting injustices. can you say you do that at your Job? I can, and i love it

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