Complaint Review: Rocky Point Travel - Tuscon Arizona

If you were 1/10 the man that I was you'd still be a woman so don't attempt to belittle me on this or any other website.To be candidly honest with the readers George Ostralich the general manager of Rocky point travel is very upset because the credit card company reversed the charges on my credit card company after they investigated his shady practices of not giving people their rightful refunds.He also likes to post lies regarding bankruptcies of others that had never happened just like the child that gets his lollie pop taken from his hands,he retorts with anything that his whining might net him.What the audience would have to ask themselves is this. Would you do business with someone like rockypointravel.com that would rather slander someone with lies in lieu of taking care of the customer and refunding their money? Silly question....withdrawn.

Raymond, Just like you have submitted your retraction here, you may want to do the same on the 2 other made-up postings. Raymond, your messages from Trip Advisor and RockyPointOnline.com were deleted for impersonating the other 2 individuals. A lie? Yes. So, be a man and retract the other 2, which came from your same IP and ID. George

I have given this much thought and have come to the conclusion that 2 wrongs do not make a right. Initially I was angry about him posting ficticious information about me on this site regarding a bankruptcy that never happened and slamming my career as a commercial pilot. The above incident had never happened. I want to formally apologize to George Ostalrich at Rocky Point Travel for making this story up. Rocky Point Travel may or may not be a good travel agency, and I would encourage anyone to give them an honest chance. I had a prior disagreement with them, and realized that maybe they actually were not able to contact me to straighten things out as they indicated. Once again having been in business for 10 years must say something positive about them. I would encorage anyone to give them try. They handled me fairly well up until the lost document issue.

In my infinite dominance over your slug of an existence I keep wounding you over, and over, and being the little moeny grubbing fool that you are you're loving it.You need help girlie seriously. Right,anyway before I digress so this brain-dead of a spastic portrays himself to be on the intellectual level of a Noam Chomsky or Stephen Hawlking, yet he displays the all the same capacities of the skidmarks in some Red Neck's underwear.Don't believe any of his lies and fallacious bravado folks, it is all a completely transparent attempt to smokescreen the fact that he has the most pronounced inferiority complex. It is common for the smaller breeds of dogs to yap and act aggressive in the face of adversity as a scare tactic when faced with a much more powerful, meaner opponent, and this is exactly the behvaiour he displays, his little white fluffy tail tucked between his legs, frothing at the mouth with tremendous comedic effect, given the little red ribbon,I have tied in the little tuft of hair between his ears. You're a crook. You steal, and lie about others such as this post demonstrates.You post bogus information written by other idiots and enemies like yourself on the web about non-existent bankrupties and my Airline job (Captain A320) and think it's a fact. The bottom line is that ROCKY POINT TRAVEL IS A RIPOFF!

Rocky Point travel thief laments: "Hello Ray," "Since when did various people meant "one person"? You are impersonating the "various people" allegedly complaining. That is falsely impersonating with the intent to deceit or extort (ILLEGAL)." To all of the lukers in here stay far away from Rocky Point Travel ripoff.This is how he treats customers.Steals their money, and then accuses them of multiple identities.Bring on your lawsuit asswipe as I'd love to counter-sue you in a heartbeat. You attempted to steal $180.00 from us and now the credit card company looked at all of the evidence and permanently reversed the charges after they found out you lied to them. Thanks to my c.c company I now have my $180.00 back. "Why do you want to call so much attention? You need to see a therapist now, before it is too late. Stop spreading lies and making aliases to submit complaints. Get a job, a hobby, or better off: a life. Stop pestering readers and us with your pathetic accusations. You may want to change your computer's IP next time you write a complaint, since every one of them reveals your pathetic self. You are worst than the bubonic plague. I bet you try to call so much attention due to a complete lack of friends. I pitty you, Ray." And yet another troll short on customers and long on wind that should not be in business expouses his low-intellect for everyone to see.He mentions non-existent ip's and gleans inaccurate information from the web and posts it thinking that that should somehow bother me(snickers) Notice how ROCKY POINT TRAVEL RIPOFF evades the issues of holding back peoples rightful refunds and then leads into a boring attack? Would you want to do business with Rocky Point Travel Ripoff located in Tucson Arizona. They can't even staff a live person and all of their phone calls go to voice mail. "We are too busy here taking care of our real customers." Yea I'll bet just Georgie boy, just like you took care of myself, and the other 3 complainers on this site right? Wheres the vaseline? "I'd be surprised if by now readers can't realize you're a lonely and pathetic liar." zzzzzzzzzzzzz...... "This is our last addition to your "novel". You're not getting a penny from us since we don't owe you one. As a matter of fact, you actually owe us for wasting our precious time. Go to the unemployment line; which is where you belong, since it seems you can't keep a job, a car, a house, or a life." Unsympathetically Yours, George J. - TUCSON, Arizon U.S.A. Hey thief anytime you want to compare paychecks just let me know ok? Oh....And the money is now back in my account thanls to Capitol Ones honest review of the facts. ROCKY POINT TRAVEL IS A RIPOFF! STAY FAR AWAY! THEY STEAL FROM THEIR CUSTOMERS! Eat *&* and die, me

Let me prove to you once and for all that the person posting is not Normal Tolo and it is indeed Raymond Ambrosini from Fountain Hills, Arizona. As you can see, his TripAdvisor ID is afar1. A few days ago he posted the same story in www.RockyPointOnline.com Here is the link: http://www.rockypointonline.com/RPForum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=895 The above link was actually written by Raymond Ambrosini himself (signed by Raymond). Take a look at the ID used at the above link. It was none other than "afar1". Would it be a coincidence that Normal Tolo has the same ID (afar!) as Raymond Ambrosini, which has been used everywhere else to deceit and extort us? Judge for yourself. afar1 is Raymond Ambrosini. How can you debunk this Ray? Just take a look at his ID and how many other aliases he uses to defame and extort. Stop wasting people's precious time. George

Let me prove to you once and for all that the person posting is not Normal Tolo and it is indeed Raymond Ambrosini from Fountain Hills, Arizona. As you can see, his TripAdvisor ID is afar1. A few days ago he posted the same story in www.RockyPointOnline.com Here is the link: http://www.rockypointonline.com/RPForum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=895 The above link was actually written by Raymond Ambrosini himself (signed by Raymond). Take a look at the ID used at the above link. It was none other than "afar1". Would it be a coincidence that Normal Tolo has the same ID (afar!) as Raymond Ambrosini, which has been used everywhere else to deceit and extort us? Judge for yourself. afar1 is Raymond Ambrosini. How can you debunk this Ray? Just take a look at his ID and how many other aliases he uses to defame and extort. Stop wasting people's precious time. George

Let me prove to you once and for all that the person posting is not Normal Tolo and it is indeed Raymond Ambrosini from Fountain Hills, Arizona. As you can see, his TripAdvisor ID is afar1. A few days ago he posted the same story in www.RockyPointOnline.com Here is the link: http://www.rockypointonline.com/RPForum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=895 The above link was actually written by Raymond Ambrosini himself (signed by Raymond). Take a look at the ID used at the above link. It was none other than "afar1". Would it be a coincidence that Normal Tolo has the same ID (afar!) as Raymond Ambrosini, which has been used everywhere else to deceit and extort us? Judge for yourself. afar1 is Raymond Ambrosini. How can you debunk this Ray? Just take a look at his ID and how many other aliases he uses to defame and extort. Stop wasting people's precious time. George

Hello Ray, Since when did various people meant "one person"? You are impersonating the "various people" allegedly complaining. That is falsely impersonating with the intent to deceit or extort (ILLEGAL). Why do you want to call so much attention? You need to see a therapist now, before it is too late. Stop spreading lies and making aliases to submit complaints. Get a job, a hobby, or better off: a life. Stop pestering readers and us with your pathetic accusations. You may want to change your computer's IP next time you write a complaint, since every one of them reveals your pathetic self. You are worst than the bubonic plague. I bet you try to call so much attention due to a complete lack of friends. I pitty you, Ray. We are too busy here taking care of our real customers. I'd be surprised if by now readers can't realize you're a lonely and pathetic liar. This is our last addition to your "novel". You're not getting a penny from us since we don't owe you one. As a matter of fact, you actually owe us for wasting our precious time. Go to the unemployment line; which is where you belong, since it seems you can't keep a job, a car, a house, or a life. Unsympathetically Yours,

Instead of paying his bills and giving me back my 180.00 after I provided him with all of the information that he originally requested he goes off on a tangent and gleans erroneous information from the www and posts it here as if that makes him right. Would anyone in thier right mind do business with a thief that posts alleged and unfactual information about a client on the Internet? Stay far away from these criminals and read the other reports by various people.

Would you do businesss with this this crook? LOL...how pathetic you are !!! I see that you believe everything you read on the Internet (snickers) If you spent half as much time being honest instead of a crook, and managing your business correctly, and less time doing google searches gleaning inaccurate profiling from the www regarding others, then maybe you wouldn't be getting Emails like these. Leave all of the rebuttals you'd like on RipoffReport.com because I will just rebutt those with cold hard fact. Of course running an honest,and courteous business are not your forte are they? I stand firm. I am also going to start dropping your name all over web blogs. A simple keyword search will turn them up in a matter of seconds. You received the receipt, and letter some time ago, and all you are doing is playing bullsh*t penny ante games. For your lawyer (from mine) I carry sourced material backed up by evidence. We are of the opinion that this evidence constitutes a sufficient defence to it's claims of impropriety by Rocky point travel and will robustly defend such claims in any court of law. If your lawyer (if you even have one) had any sense he'd direct you to pay your bills in a timely manner. Pay me the $180.00 that you owe me, and you get the material removed. I've already cost you business according to some of the Emails sent to me. I have received several thank you's from visitors to the website via Emails that are in my possession, and I can attest to that. If you want to continue to play the stubborn child, and continue on being a thief then I have alot of money and time. And believe me, I will waste all of yours.

RE: Rocky Point Travel Ripoff never credited me for an early checkout ripoff Tuscon Arizona To whom it may concern: We received notification from our attorneys today about the posting appearing on your site. They are asking us on what action we would like to take. I told him I would personally directly respond to you. If that is not enough, we will take it to the next legal level. I have been trying to submit a rebuttal for this unfounded posting for some time, but your system is not allowing me. Here is a chronology of events. Mr. Raymond rented from us in late 2006. Yes, there was a border protest and many guests were given the choice of leaving one night, or were given the choice of staying one free night. We are a travel agency in Rocky Point, Mexico, which promotes Rocky Point (one of the fastest growing tourist and real estate destinations in Mexico). It is sad to see someone use defamatory remarks about this town. We have had thousands of satisfied rental clients in the past decade (many of them repeat rental guests) and are embarrassed to see this town be tainted from such a closed-minded individual. Please visit our Web site at RockyPointTravel.com and take a look at the gallery. If you can not find any beauty, perhaps you need to see your eye doctor. Mr. ---- is an example of a person who gives American tourists a bad name. After the incident at the border, we were provided with a list of names by the resort of those customers who wished to depart one night early. The resort refunded us for the night in question, and we, in turn, refunded the customers. Mr. --- did not appear on the list. Since we had already paid the resort 100% of the reservation and the resort stated he was not on the list, we were still going to pursue refunding Mr. ---. I personally spoke to him and told him that I believed him. However, since we had already paid the resort, we needed a letter from him stating all the facts so that we could have it for audit and accounting purposes; not to mention that we would need it to dispute the refund with the resort. Instead, Mr. Ambrosini became belligerent and started using all sorts of obscene language. He went to the extreme of calling us a SCAM and personally called me a CROOK, when being in business for 10 years would prove otherwise. He demanded an immediate credit card refund and we told him we did not process our refunds that way. We would be happy to send a company check instead. He wanted to get paid on the spot. Why would he have so much reservation about putting his statement in writing? The border blockade was a non-traditional scenario, and as such, required us to investigate who stayed and who did not. in order for the credit to take place; especially when his name did not appear on the list provided to us. As a business, we need to make sure the request was a bona fide one. We know the resort in question very well and it enjoys one of the highest occupancy rates in town. Once again, Mr. ---- is making an unfounded accusation. Please visit our Web site and read all the positive comments about this resort. Regarding his comment about his neighbor being charged, If someone was charged for a missing item, the resort acted appropriately in doing so and the renter signed an agreement, in which it clearly states that any missing items would be charged. Why is this a surprise to Mr. ---? The resorts are individually owned and are people's private property. If I rent your fully-furnished house and break or take an item, wouldn't you expect me to pay for it? We have that on our policies and he agreed to it when he made the reservation. Once again, why is it a surprise? I have included a communication from Mr. --- and our response, in which he calls us CROOKS. We do not take that language lightly, especially when we were simply requesting a letter from him stating all the specifics of his situation, due to the fact his name did not appear on the list provided. On a few occasions we e-mailed him requesting the letter, again and again. He never complied with our request. Instead, he wrote to you with unfounded and defamatory information. We have already contacted our attorneys, as the information appearing on your site is completely taken out of context and it is indeed defamatory. Since our request to obtain a letter from Mr. ---- was unsuccessful, we suspected we had the wrong e-mail or he had changed it. Therefore, we made an internet search to see if we could find his contact information. Instead, we were surprised to find a few things about Mr. Ambrosini, which may shed some light about his reaction to get paid and his refusal to put it in writing. We found that Mr. ---- recently filed Bankruptcy (Chapter 7) in Arizona. Case #0000841PHX. According to some Web sites (not our opinion), Mr. --- attempted to solicit employment and stated he was formerly a licensed commercial pilot. The following link expands on this and shows a search with the FAA confirms he was never a licensed pilot. How dare he calls us crooks when we operate with the customer as our first priority and respect international law. We did take offense to his comments. For more information about the content of his character, as expressed by others (not us), you can click on the following link: groupsrv.com/religion/about92638.html or perhaps this one: newsblip.net/article/id_article/4053/grp_id/155/next//?PHPSESSID=1fcebee664041f50979fe3db9a01ed Mr. ---- claims to have a Ph.D in Science. He claims he was a commercial pilot. According to these sites, he does not have a college degree and never had a pilot's license. It makes us wonder if his name was not on the list provided by the resort. Perhaps he is trying to take advantage of the situation. See the posting of the 2 links at the end of this message. Once again, we did not post it, we just found it on the internet. He goes by different aliases as well. With all of this, aren't we in the right of requesting a letter, in order for him to receive a refund? We will forward this to our attorneys and will defend our reputation to the fullest extent. You are allowing this individual to defame our reputation and goodwill by using your internet portal. Coincidentally, I use your Web site very frequently and find it very useful to the consumer (I am one as well). However, and for obvious reasons, you tend to be somewhat biased and hope remove this defamatory post after reviewing our rebuttal, which has no basis. All Mr. ---- had to do to get his refund was to write a letter to us. He refused and the resort will not issue a credit without it. For someone who is an expert on making false and libelous remarks about others, he sure has selective amnesia about his own track record. Very Cordially Yours, George J. Ostalrich, Gen. Mgr. Rocky Point Travel Below is the communication between Mr. --- and I. The above link's information are posted at the bottom of this message. -----Original Message----- From: George - Rocky Point Travel [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:10 PM To: 'Raymond' Cc: dmc Subject: RE: George here is my document regarding confirmation number 70064 Raymond, Excuse me? We have all the intentions of sending your refund. All I need is an letterl from you stating exactly what happened for our own records and to establish an audit trail. You are calling me a crook? You have crossed the line. I don't know what part of the e-mail below strikes you this way. Sir, perhaps we are not making ourselves clear. We paid the resort for 100% of your reservation. Your reservation was made with us. The resort inadvertently did not notify us until you contacted us. I simply requested a letter from you stating what happened so that we could save an audit trail since we have to internally request the credit from the resort. Where is the letter sir? All I need is a brief summary of what happened. No, it should not have been credited the night you checked out, sir. Reservations are paid in advance and you paid for it when you booked. This was a non-traditional scenario, and as such, requires a different set of protocols. I have been very professional to you and requested your letter days ago. If you missed to respond to my request and now our recurring to insulting language, we will be ready to submit a rebuttal to your card if that is how you would like to proceed. Calling me a crook is an insult to the goodwill of our organization and we expect an apology if further communication is expected. That is not the way we do business. George P.S. After doing an internet search on you, I can't believe you called me a crook. All I can say is, learn the word slander before you continue writing. -----Original Message----- From: Raymond [mailto:--------] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:42 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: George here is my document regarding confirmation number 70064 George, You're a crook. Im canceling the card and you know what? I'll win. This should have been credited the night I checked out minus your crooked 10% fee. Have a nice day. -----Original Message----- From: George - Rocky Point Travel [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:11 PM To: Raymond Subject: RE: George here is my document regarding confirmation number 70064 Raymond, Per our telephone conversation, I have been waiting for a letter from you indicating the specifics, as the resort never communicated to us about the credit to you. I have been expecting that letter for our own internal records. FYI, we will not refund your card, as we would be incurring additional merchant fees. We will send you a check instead for the amount of the night in question minus our 10% processing fee, which is non-refundable. Please provide that letter for our records indicating the specifics so that I can request that check from our accounting department and we will deal with the resort later. Cordially, George -----Original Message----- From: Raymond [mail to:----] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:30 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: FW: George here is my document regarding confirmation number 70064 My account has yet to be credited is there a problem? -----Original Message----- From:Raymond Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:26 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: George here is my document regarding confirmation number 70064 George I never recieved a credit for leaving one day Early on November 24,2006. Enclosed is a screenshot of the letter I told you about FROM NEWSBLIP.NET Oh no, you ignorant *&*, you could only delete the post in your reply. My post is still there right above this one :-). Say Rayturd, aren't you ashamed to draw unemployment, or has that run out? Do you tithe from that??? In case someone wants to read my post, without going back, here it is. Say Raymond in all of his 'glory' :-) "I don't believe in atheists", "Church of the Painful Truth", "Atheist Bruiser" and others.....these are all names used by the most pitiful of all people, Raymond. Raytard, as most people refer to him, is an internet troll who is a sad and pathetic individual. Raytard has told this group that he has a job with a six figure income. The truth is that until recently he was unemployed. He is 49 years old and has no college degree and it would appear little chance to make a six figure income. He might be referring to his job as a pilot. He used this in several newsgroups he was in and was finally exposed when it was revealed he did not have a pilot's license. I was personally in a forum a few years back when it was discovered that not only was Raytard (actually I prefer to call him Rayturd for it better suits him) not a pilot, but all of the experiences of his flying was done on Microsoft Flight Simulator. Now that is pathetic :-). He said in this forum that we would not guess his occupation and I think he was thinking about his Microsoft flying days :-). Rayturd has been on a pilot's forum and he was politely told to drop dead on that forum. Rayturd also claims to have a Ph.D. in Science. In his own words he doesn't have beyond a two year college degree and does it ever show. If you have ever corresponded with someone with an education, it shows early and often. Rayturd also was on a medical forum where he claimed false credentials. The numerous names under which he has posted has paralleled his personal life where he is also known by several names. He has a web site under the name Raymond Michael which using his first and middle names. For anyone really interested in this fascinating troll all that you need to do is a search on Raymond ---. His usual retort to the revelation of this deceitful past is to say, "is that who you think I am"? Well, yes *&*wipe, that is who I think you are. Want to know why? You have an error in much of your correspondence where you don't leave a space after a comma. You will write, " the word needs a comma ,and I'll use one. See how you don't have a space after the comma, Asswipe? Raymond ---- has the same problem, so yes, it is you. So you aren't 15, you're 50!! d**n, Rayturd, aren't you a little old for this childish nonsense? So long *&*wipe, I'll post when you make a substantive statement but from the my experiences of the past, you're too busy clipping and arranging the posts of others so your small brain can handle them :-). FROM GROUPSRV.COM OH WAIT,,there is ALOT MORE! Ray has had at least 8 different addresses in the last 10 years. One of them being a trailer park in Illinois. So all of that BS Ray about your having no respect for "Trailer Trash" is PRETTY FUNNY, since you sold your trailer in Illinois before coming to Arizona. Heah Ray,,did that $18K that you got for the rats nest fund your trip to Phoenix? OH WAIT,,,there is ALOT MORE! Ray has posted financial information about a few others in the BF arena,,and in particular someone's supposed personal bankrupcy. Ray has posted this supposed person's bankrupcy at least a dozen times on this board, his HIGH DESERT BOARD,,AND Erik Beckjord's board. NOW folks,,this is going to rupture your GONADS!!!!! Mr. Raymond ------ and his wife Concetta (She goes by Connie) filed for CHAPTER 7 bankrupcy in ARIZONA on January 27/2000. Heah Ray, was that CASE# 0000841PHX, filed in Phoenix and discharged on 5/31/2000. OH WAIT,,,there is ALOT MORE! What is this thing about you and "Connie" having MULTIPLE name spellings along with those MULTIPLE addresses over the past 10 years. Can you not spell your name correctly? Is it ----, ---, ad infinitum? AND, why does "CONCETTA" use the surname "GRIECO" when she is married to you? Is it Connie ---, Concetta ---, Connie ----, Concetta ---- or something else? OH WAIT,,,it gets better,,AND we are leaving all the rest of it for another time. Heah folks,,here is a guy that states that he is a pilot and is RICH and slams that into people's faces,,and yet he cannot afford to pay for the tabs on his car. You see,,,Mr. Raymond ----- has NO REGISTRATION on his car and was pulled over in 2000 for being a bad boy. Seems like a PILOT could at least pay the $500 bucks for registration like the rest of us. KEEP TUNED,,,cause we have so much more. Heah Ray,,next chapter coming up for all to see what a liar and phoney you are. The really juicy stuff is coming for all to see what a liar and coward you are Ray. Maybe we will send you some nice flowers on September 16th to celebrate your birthday. Many thanks to one of your butt buddies for all of the help! Geez Ray, you sure don't know your friends from your enemies anymore huh!!!

PRINCESA DE PENESCO RIPOFF My family and I were advised by management at Princesa de Penesco to leave Mexico one day earlier than planned due to the Mexican border being closed during a strike against Nuclear waster being brought across the border Avoid Rocky Point Travel at all costs. In particular The Princesa de Penesco hotel located located at Camino La Choya in Rocky Point. The hotel is old and the manager is deceptive in his practices, and as of March 18,2007 I am still waiting for a refund. As the letter below indicates Mr. Mel Sabregas has no indication of being an honest businessman. I had signed no imaginary document attesting to his "protocols" listed below and he had the original letter in his possession via Email prior. He even went so far as to tell me that the reason I was not credited at checkout was due to the fact that he does not want to be charged a merchant fee for the reversal. Hence the 10% figure. Oh, and one more thing. they charge a hefty fee for the maid service ($30.00 U.S.) Which is about God knows what in Mexican money, without disclosing that at check in or checkout. When I asked for a receipt reflecting my day early checkout as recommended by the hotel due to the border being closed for a strike I was told by the front desk that they do not issue receipts in spite of a $1500.00 Compaq pc and black and white LaserJet printer sitting there right next to him. After negotiating for a receipt with 3 people, and over one hour later I had gotten the manage to finally provide one. To add insult to injury the amenities were primitive, and there is no place to shop after 9:00 pm. The entire town is a watering hole for college kids with one filthy grocery store to serve the entire population. My recommendation? Anywhere but there. Oh and one more thing, they charged my neighbor $15.00 for a towel that they claimed was missing from their room. Apparently the maids do this on a regular basis, (hide towels to generate extra income for the hotel.) I heard this same story from 4 other guests while there. Raymond Fountain Hills, Arizona U.S.A.