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  • Report:  #843457

Complaint Review: Toll Brothers - Williamsburg New York

Reported By:
JED - Brooklyn, New York, United States of America
Submitted:
Updated:

Toll Brothers
2 Northside Piers Williamsburg, 11249 New York, United States of America
Phone:
718-618-3360
Web:
http://www.northsidepiers.com/
Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?

We were one of the people who purchased into the resurgence of Brookyln's Waterfront Agreement with Toll Brothers. We did not get quality living as promised but in return we got nothing but grief and trouble.

I resided at Townhouse C (THC), one of four townhouses that were built at Building I at Northside Piers in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. There is also a second building and a third was supposed to be built be Toll Brothers but they have since backed out of the deal.

Townhouse C's owner is a high profile member of the Downtown Brooklyn Community. i also act as the Owner's representative. I am also disabled, suffering from dystonia, a muscular disease that is related to Parkinson's Disease. On some days, I required a cane or crutch to walk.

Prior to the Owner's purchase of THC, a colleague and I had two walk-thrus. The first time was in
late November 2009, what we saw, we immediately suspected that there were water and plumbing issues. 

Right outside the door to THC in the common hallway, that there was a section of the ceiling that was cut, edged with water stains. Then we found the sink in the second floor bathroom dismantled and the insulation removed from the wall. There was also a wide hole at the side of the bathtub. And in the third floor bathroom, the toilet has been totally removed.

We were told that there were no water issues involved here. Later on, in the second walk-through with Mark Cardasco, who is the project manager for Toll Brothers, turned on the washing machine and the dishwasher and water it started to literally rain over our heads from the pipes in the cellar! The owner wanted an independent home inspector to look the property over because of the leaks. Toll Brothers only allow us to choose between two New Jersey-licensed inspectors that THEY approved of.  Why New Jersey and not New York?

We held off the closing and have even wanted to back out of it, but eventually the owner had to close on March 5th  as Toll Brothers wouldnt give the deposit back. We contact the Attorney General's Office in January and Sandy Hagan of the Real Estate Financial Bureau said they were too inundated with complaints. It would take a year or more for them to help us get our deposit back. She said that there is no reason why the developer would deny you unless they are hiding something.

After closing,  I eventually discovered that the townhouse contains numerous examples of defects
and poor workmanship. According to the Attorney General, Toll Brothers have a one year warranty, which means they have to fix everything that is wrong or broken. When the Owner brought up all these issues to them, the Owner was told to do a punch list. Now doing the punch list became a full time job  for me as there were so many defects and issues, it ran up over 15 pages.

Besides drafty windows that pump up the electric bill and the examples of poor and sloppy workmanship discovered all over the townhouse:

 The floor was engineered wood so they were rising in various locations throughout the townhouse.

 Cracks are evident on the steps of the townhouses' three staircases.

 Kitchen counter-tops were not leveled and aligned improperly.

  The kick-plate for the Sub-Zero refrigerator was missing and was replaced by a piece of wood.

  The HVAC system made an excessive amount of noise when in operation.

However, much more serious is the leaking of water throughout the building, including the fireplace, and especially in the cellar. The concrete floor of the cellar was carpeted, and the intruding water  created the perfect condition for the growth
of mold and mildew, which affected my health and cause me to developed a rash on my leg. The Owner had Mold Pro come into inspect the townhouse three times. Their reports confirm the existence of toxic mold in the premises. A copy was also sent to the Board and Toll Brothers. Not surprisingly at this point, nothing was done to remedy the situation.

I finally suggested to Mark Cardasco that they gutted all the townhouses, waterproof and insulate the townhouses, let the seasonal rain go by to see if is not taking in water, and put me up in a comparable unit in Tower II.

Toll Brothers promptly went into submarine silent mode.

Nothing was done as Toll Brothers wanted everything done on their terms. They will not accommodate you. To ask Scott Avram (Assistant Vice-President of Toll Brothers), Mark Cardasco and Project Manager Joe Fuentas to do so and the answer is no, no, no and no.

Barani Guttsman Tansy, the VP of the Boards of Managers, said that workers from Toll Brothers tried to enter the townhouse to fix the problems and I wouldn't let them in. The Owner had informed her: for them to work on the property, I need their contractor licenses, and also insurance. They refused to co-operate. The house is full of family antiques, fine art glasswares and china and if they damaged a $3000 item, they don't want to pay for it. They had already broke a $150.00 item and they don't want to talk about it. Harleysville Insurance dropped the Owner's $15 million policy after they sent an independent inspector,  Cory LaViolet of Terrier Independent Claims. They said the building was not suitable
to be sold and thus they would not insure it any longer. My request to Toll Brothers is simple: pack us up and move us out and then you can do whatever you want.

The Board of Mangers, headed by Keith A. Berger, Esq, who works for Goldman Sachs, was of no help either. They backed Toll Brothers, not the owners. It came to my attention that the Board's lawyer, David Tane was assigned by Toll Brothers. Isn't that a conflict of interest? During a meeting between the Board and the owners, someone asked Keith Berger on the issue of water seepage and mold and he went blank faced and said that this is the first time he's heard of it...like I haven't been bringing this to their attention!

Faced with no other recourse, we and some other owners, went public with their grievances against Toll Brothers. They didn't want the owners to go public for obvious reasons. They tried to convinced all the other owners not to do so either as it will affect their own ability to sell their properties.

The other owners in Building I to the press that the properties they brought into are sub-standard and are shoddily constructed. The windows allowed in cold air and rain and thus drives up the electric bills into hundreds of dollars per month. Some windows in Tower I actually blew out of their frames. The cladding of the building was also coming off. They also charged that Toll Brothers was not responsive to their complaints and few, if anything was done.

Toll Brothers stated to the New York Post that it "is aware of these isolated situations and strongly disagrees with the allegations as they have been presented," and will continue to honor its obligations and provide the quality and customer service for which it is known. Apparently Toll Brother's definition of customer service is rather unusual , for after going public, that is when the retaliation began, not only from Toll Brothers City Living, but from the Northside Piers Homeowners Association.

In a take that! move, Toll Brothers took my suggestion of gutting all the townhouses and housing their respective owners in another unit. All of them, except for THC.  THD was the first to be finished and re-occupied because one of the residents was a pregnant woman and thus that property took precedence. And they let me, a disabled man, continued to live in a mold infested home.

As work commenced on the other townhouses, more water and sewage leaked into the basement of THC through the common walls it shared with adjacent THB. I called the Department of Building and Russell McCroy appeared.
He said to Ms. Tansy that they have a week to get Toll to re-mediate because it's now a health issue. Instead, Ms. Tansy turned on me, she went ballistic, giving me this Linda Blair impersonation, threatening that 'you don't know what
I can do!' Needless to say, Toll Brothers did not re-mediate, despite requests to do so from Keith Berger.

I eventually put up two poster sized photos of my two golden retrievers in the front of THC to advertise the condition of the Townhouse. I put  up speech bubbles, having one dog saying: Say No to Mold!, while the other one replied: Why am I not surprised? This is a townhouse lemon! I also put up blown photo of the mold that is growing in the basement walls and placed an artificial lemon tree in the balcony.  Some of the local residents were amused and apparently that of the Boards of Managers was not. In a counteractive move, they promptly changed the building's policy and began
fining the Owner for having unauthorized signs up on the property.

I then contacted the Commissioner of Health of New York State, sending him a letter and a photo of the rash on my leg. In October 2011, Glen Revan from the Department of Health & Mental Hygiene came and inspected Townhouse C. His report indicated the smell of urine, sewage, ground water and mold. He inspected the other townhouses as well and I accompanied him during his inspection. I also took some pictures of the THB next door. Mr. Revan did a report of his findings and concluded that the townhouse wasn't suitable to live in.

When Sabine Manas, the owner of the adjacent THB, found out that I have taken pictures of her property, she started a lynch mob with the Board of Managers to have me arrested on the night of September 30th 2011. The 94th precinct was called to Northside Piers. Sabine Manas and other members of the Board of Managers were in the front of THC. She lied and had me arrested for criminal trespassing. She told the police officers that she represented Toll Brothers. She gave the wrong date and time when I was at her gutted property, and she discounted the fact that I was there with a city official, and I had written proof of that. I wonder ifSabine have signed a confidentiality agreement  in exchange
for her property being redone and being housed in another unit in the building.

The report was filed under Bill Butler's name. Butler, who is a contractor for Toll Brothers through Meridian Hudson, ultimately did not give a deposition. Butler told Toll Brothers Property Manager Adam Gottlieb: If you pull me into this, I am going to quit. I am not going to follow up on the police report that Sabine Manas processed. Jeff Klarfeld, the Property Manger of Building I from Penmark Management said: I am NOT going to be in trouble, but this Board is going to be in trouble.

The charges and case were ultimately dismissed by the Honorable Judge Evelyn La Porta, not only because of Butler's refusal to give a deposition, but on the fact the I was accompanied by a city official.

Because of the fact that the townhouse is now deemed uninhabitable, the Owner no longer pay the common charges and the Board of Managers in response, instead of working with Toll Brothers to make the townhouse INHABITABLE, they suspended all services to THC.

The current situation is that the owner and Toll Brothers are in the process of buy back. According to Vanderbilt Appraisal, the appreciated value of townhouse is 1.45 million and Toll Brothers is offering less than that.

Northside Piers were among Toll Brothers' first constructions into New York State. A Horsham, Pennsylvania-based company, it had built and sold luxury condos, houses and other residences across the country. If the four townhouses are any indication, Toll Brother's initial foray in New York is turning out to be a disaster.

As of now, the case have also been placed on the attention of the Office of the Attorney General, Mayor Office for the Disabled Deputy Jason Mischel, and the New York State Licensing Division, as the agent who handled the sales, Teresa Ali, turned out not to be a license real estate agent or broker in the State of New York. Ms. Ali have since relocated to Northville (aka Novi) Michigan.

Which, not surprsingly, brings us to another Toll Brothers related horror story, as posted by one Northville buyer on here on RipoffReport.com: http://www.ripoffreport.com/builders-contractors/toll-brothers/toll-brothers-toll-brothers-lu-39dd4.htm

Reading that was like reading the history of THC almost verbatim in terms of Toll Brothers' tactics as the buyer also made repeated complaints and in the end, they too, have to resort to hanging up a banner on their property to make known to the public the dreadful state of their home:

*Build the property as fast and cheap as possible.

*Induce the buyer into making a deposit without making full disclosure of the condition of the property.

* Force the buyer into closing by not returning their deposits.

* Make whatever promises and agreements that is needed to close the deal.

* When the complaints comes in, drag it out as long as possible so the buyer can no longer afford to fight them and gives up.

* When they do settle, they have people sign confidentiality agreements to protect their reputation.

And in an unusual, but perhaps not surprising update, the writer's tone turn completely around after settling with Toll Brothers, citing that Toll Brothers have treated us fairly and negotiated in good faith and praised their professional handling of the dispute. The fact that the update was shackled in quotation marks gives the impression that the now satisfied owner is trying to tip us off that this is a statement not unlike that of a coerced one obtained with the aid of a pointed gun or a confidentiality agreement.

A casual search on the Internet will see that what is happening at Northside Piers and Nothville are not isolated incidents: Toll Brothers have complaints made against them from people from across the country: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Virginia, Ohio, Illinois, Tennesee, and West Virginia. In the case of West Virginia, Vicky Surdosky of Martinsburg Station brought a townhouse from Toll Brothers. She slapped them with a lawsuit and it is scheduled to be heard on September 9th 2012.

In fact, there is even a blog for disgruntled Toll Brothers buyers: http://tolltruth.blogspot.com/  Reading the same list of complaints: water issues, mold, shoddy workmanship,  becomes almost monotonous. Some owners have also either considered and/or went public with their complaints or band together for a class action lawsuit against Toll Brothers. One owner who is seeking a national class action suit is Harry Bloch of Pennsylvania, who have set up his own website (http://www.howtolldestroyedourlives.com/) and have posted several videos on YouTube ("Looking for Shmucks)
chronicling his own experience concerning Toll Brothers. The image of taped windows in Bloch's Toll built home brought an immediate sense of deja vu of THC.

In the end, do not buy from Toll Brothers and I urged everyone to come together and make this public knowledge.


51 Updates & Rebuttals

PRIVATEER

Brooklyn,
United States of America
'Toll Brothers acknowledge problems at Northside Piers'

#2Consumer Suggestion

Tue, May 22, 2012

Toll Brothers acknowledge problems at Northside Piers

Last March, I tried to help residents of Northside Piers who were having problems with the build quality of their units. Defective windows, mold, improper insulation, and faulty plumbing, sewage, heating, and air conditioning systems were some of the complaints I heard about as I spoke to residents at meetings and at their homes. When my article Luxury Living is Taking a Toll, Brother! that was posted on thewgnews.com, March 21, 2011, and was followed up by the New York Post article Williamsburg waterfront condo residents complain of shoddy construction on March 23, 2011, the Toll Brothers responded by putting out a statement claiming, We are aware of these isolated situations and strongly disagree with the allegations as they have been presented, adding that the firm will continue to honor its obligations and provide the quality and customer service for which it is known.

A little over a year later, Toll Brothers have changed their tune. They filed a lawsuit this past April 12, against Allan Window Technologies and Kreisler Borg Florman General Construction, claiming the windows and their installation were defective. The Toll Brothers have now admitted that the building has a major flaw, and the residents who went public with this issue have been vindicated.

Some residents who went public with their complaints were chastised by other residents who were looking to get out of the building, or who feared losing value on their property. But they were wise to go public since the Toll Brothers were unwilling to face this issue until the WG got involved. Hopefully, the Toll Brothers will address the other issues with the building that residents still face, and make Northside Piers a quality place to live.


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
They Got the Money and Run

#3Author of original report

Mon, May 21, 2012

I know, Pete. Toll Brothers got the money and run. You were right.


Karl

Highlands Ranch,
Colorado,
USA
PROTESTER SONG 98........

#4Consumer Comment

Mon, May 21, 2012

was submitted at this website on May 21, 2012.

Just type in 879510 at this site to see if it is available in the consumer comments section at Ripoff Report #879510.

Thank You


J-Pete

United States of America
A more appropriate song might be Take the Money and Run!

#5Consumer Comment

Mon, May 21, 2012

They got the money, hey
You know they got away
They headed down south and they're still running today
Singin' go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run


Karl

Highlands Ranch,
Colorado,
USA
BOILER ROOM SONG...

#6Consumer Comment

Sun, April 22, 2012

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KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH A LIAR

#7Author of original report

Thu, April 19, 2012

Either you have low reading comprehension or you are once again, trying to re-write history. And again, with pleasure, I will tear apart your little claim one at a time. 

"First of all, the people reading this are laughing at what a loon you are.   Havent you noticed that there are only two people commenting here (you under your multiple pseudonyms and me).  You make it sound like there is a legion of people whom you represent.  But the opposite is actually true."

Actually, WE are laughing at YOU. As much as you wish otherwise, only KL1969 and JED are the same person, ME. Rather or not people support me in the building do not matter, as New York City officials and the Office of the Attorney General DO. That is where it matters.
 
"You stood in the lobby of the building daily harassing your neighbors and the door men.  You had your silly notebook with pictures and letters that you wrote.  You went on diatribes about how your family is an important and influential developer in NY and how you had connections throughout the city and were going to ruin Toll Brothers in NY City if they didnt bend to your demands.  None of the other residents shared your point of view, and as a result, despite your attempts to garner the support of others in the building, all you did was inflict others with your unpleasant and offensive presence. "

Yes, it is not my fault that my family IS influential and I have connections. That still do not excuse what Toll Brothers did and is probably still doing in other parts of the countries. What I "demand" is simple, we were forced into buying this lemon even though we wanted to back out of it. There were no full disclosure to us about the problems the townhouse was saddled with. We suspected there were water leaking issues from the very beginning and they denied it, only to admit it later on after they got our money. As for the other residents who don't share my view, that is their privilege. Again, we have to stand up for ourselves.

As for the Board, it represents the tenants.  The only defense that your neighbors at 1NSP had was to go to the board and ask for some kind of relief from you.  And if you cant figure out why, then you are an idiot.  Why should people, when going through the lobby to work, have to be harassed by an unkempt individual with a personal agenda making wild claims?

Then, at some point you decided that these people whom you have alienated with your behavior were somehow your enemy.  So what do you do?  You start looking for ways to make their lives miserable such as calling the Fire Department to complain about people leaving shoes in the hall way (which you dont use) and making false allegations.  

The Board represent the tenants as long as they shut their mouths. I ask for relief from the disaster that is Townhouse C and they did nothing. Rather a contradictory statement on your part?

As for calling the fire department, have I or have I not said that I called because tripped over the people's shoes? It seems you have a very selective memory going on in that head of yours.


"Then you enter your neighbors apartment without permission and start taking pictures to bolster your crazy claims.  You are quite properly arrested and with the hope that maybe you have learned your lesson, no one follows through on the prosecution in an act of mercy.  How do you respond?  By using your townhouse as a means to further desecrate 1NSP and again inflicting your neighbors with a barrage of assaults in every means imaginable. "

And again, I was there with a city official. The judge DISMISSED the case. So don't pat yourself on the back for your supposed magnanimity. It wasn't an act of mercy on any of your part. Everybody gave a deposition except for Bill Butler, which for some reason, HIS name was used to file the police report. You people wanted to prosecuted but Mr. Butler knew it was a false arrest and didn't get involved.

And let me said this that I haven't mentioned before: Sabine accused me of trespassing in her townhouse AFTER she discovered that I was there with a City official. Then she made up the dates and times that I was in her townhouse . A stupid move on her part as during those times I was with somebody who is an advocate in Williamsburg.

You people were angry that your ruse were exposed and it wind up working into my favor.

"Why dont you get it?  You dont have a problem with the Board.  The board is comprised of (amongst others) of the people of 1NSP (your neighbors).  You have done everything in your power to alienate these people.  Why in the world would you expect that these people and the board who represent them would be positively responsive to you?  Quite frankly, you owe a lot of people an apology."

I got it. But it is YOU who don't seem to get it as everything you are bringing up, I am refuting with the same answers again. The Board have always supported Toll Brothers. They were against me from the very beginning, and quite frankly, since that I was jailed under false accusations, I am the one who is owed an apology. 
 
"Or are you just in it for the money and you don't care who or how many people your make miserable?"

If our deposit was returned and we were allowed to back out of the sale, all of this would have been avoided. Then again, what a novel concept, spending hundred of thousands of dollars, go through years of aggravation and compromising my health, just to make a few bucks.

You are severely disturbed.



Karl

Highlands Ranch,
Colorado,
USA
BOILER ROOM SONG

#8Consumer Comment

Thu, April 19, 2012

BOILER ROOM

(Please sing to the tune of "Yesterday")

Anyone can 'Google' this- FREE MIDI THE BEATLES MIDI FILES, and click on 'Yesterday' and sing the following lyrics to that midi tune, right?

Here we go- 1, 2, 3, 4....

Boiler room
Lots of junk is in the boiler room
Call your mom and text the bride and groom
There's lots of junk in boiler room.

Lots of mold
Sell your stocks and also sell your gold
New York City smells, 'cause it is old
The townhouse has a lot of mold.

Insulation gone
Dog poop on their nice front lawn
Bathtub had wide hole
Saw some rats, a mouse, a mole.

Boiler room
Living there has brought them so much gloom
Stocks are falling, nothing seems to bloom
There's lots of junk in boiler room.

What's going on my friends
Mark Cadasco wears Depends
This place is a dump
Someone please text Forrest Gump.

Boiler room
Too much junk is in the boiler room
Days are dreary and they're filled with gloom
There's lots of junk in boiler room
MMMM Boiler room.

End.

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J-Pete

United States of America
You can't argue with a crazy trespassing extortionist

#9Consumer Comment

Thu, April 19, 2012

First of all, the people reading this are laughing at what a loon you are.   Havent you noticed that there are only two people commenting here (you under your multiple pseudonyms and me).  You make it sound like there is a legion of people whom you represent.  But the opposite is actually true. 

You stood in the lobby of the building daily harassing your neighbors and the door men.  You had your silly notebook with pictures and letters that you wrote.  You went on diatribes about how your family is an important and influential developer in NY and how you had connections throughout the city and were going to ruin Toll Brothers in NY City if they didnt bend to your demands.  None of the other residents shared your point of view, and as a result, despite your attempts to garner the support of others in the building, all you did was inflict others with your unpleasant and offensive presence. 

As for the Board, it represents the tenants.  The only defense that your neighbors at 1NSP had was to go to the board and ask for some kind of relief from you.  And if you cant figure out why, then you are an idiot.  Why should people, when going through the lobby to work, have to be harassed by an unkempt individual with a personal agenda making wild claims?
Then, at some point you decided that these people whom you have alienated with your behavior were somehow your enemy.  So what do you do?  You start looking for ways to make their lives miserable such as calling the Fire Department to complain about people leaving shoes in the hall way (which you dont use) and making false allegations. 

Then you enter your neighbors apartment without permission and start taking pictures to bolster your crazy claims.  You are quite properly arrested and with the hope that maybe you have learned your lesson, no one follows through on the prosecution in an act of mercy.  How do you respond?  By using your townhouse as a means to further desecrate 1NSP and again inflicting your neighbors with a barrage of assaults in every means imaginable.

Why dont you get it?  You dont have a problem with the Board.  The board is comprised of (amongst others) of the people of 1NSP (your neighbors).  You have done everything in your power to alienate these people.  Why in the world would you expect that these people and the board who represent them would be positively responsive to you?  Quite frankly, you owe a lot of people an apology. 

Or are you just in it for the money and you don't care who or how many people your make miserable?


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Rebuttal To Pete

#10Author of original report

Thu, April 19, 2012

Let's go over your ranting again, Pete:

"Thank you for putting those pictures up showing what an a$$hole you are by making your neighbors live next to such an eyesore.  Its because of all of your crazy stunts, visual polution, verbal confrontations in the lobby, and olfactory assaults that no one has any sympathy for you.  You're a menace to yourself and anyone who has the misfortune to be near you. "


You are so welcome Pete.

To those of you reading this, this is how far you have to go in order to get any sort of action from Toll Brothers and the Board. Apparently being nice will get you nowhere. You have to be an "a$$hole" in order to get any sort of results or action and even then they retaliate, even resorting to illegal methods.

As for living next to an eyesore, my neighbors couldn't  live next to me anyway because their townhouses are all being gutted from the inside out. Now Pete, you have yet to address that: Why were all the townhouses gutted?

And as I have said before, the joke that is the Board of Managers will not advocate for us, so we will have to do it on our own.

Finally, the menace is Toll Brothers and save the sympathy for those who brought into the building. 

"You are just grubbing for money and you don't care how much you have to lie or who gets harmed."

Actually, you are the one lied as I have shot down every one of your claims and your efforts to put words in my mouth. And as for being being harmed? At least nobody was falsely arrested and jailed on my account; not to mention my skin infection and respiratory problems that stemmed from the mold in the townhouse.

Think about it before you post another knee jerk response that only prove my case.


J-Pete

United States of America
You can't argue with a crazy trespassing extortionist

#11Consumer Comment

Wed, April 18, 2012

Thank you for putting those pictures up showing what an a$$hole you are by making your neighbors live next to such an eyesore.  Its because of all of your crazy stunts, visual polution, verbal confrontations in the lobby, and olfactory assaults that no one has any sympathy for you.  You're a menace to yourself and anyone who has the misfortune to be near you. 

You are just grubbing for money and you don't care how much you have to lie or who gets harmed. 


PRIVATEER

Brooklyn,
United States of America
One Northside Piers, is suing two contractors for $10 million, claiming water is leaking around the 29-story buildings windows.

#12General Comment

Wed, April 18, 2012

Toll Bros. sues contractors at One Northside Piers for $10 million April 13, 2012 06:15PM By Adam Pincus

From left: Executive Chairman of the Board of Toll Brothers Robert Toll, L&M Development CEO Ron Moelis and One Northside Piers Toll Brothers City Living, part of a development team that built the trendy but troubled Williamsburg condominium tower One Northside Piers, is suing two contractors for $10 million, claiming water is leaking around the 29-story buildings windows. The lawsuit, filed yesterday in New York State Supreme Court, comes just over a year after the New York Post reported a group of tenants at the 177-unit building complained about shoddy construction. Toll Brothers at the time downplayed the allegations, although it acknowledged there were problems. Pennsylvania-based Toll Brothers, along with L&M Development Partners and RD Management, were the developers and sponsors of the condominium building One Northside Piers, at 4 North 5th Street, which was completed in 2008. The sponsors, under the formal name of the development entity Kent Avenue Property 1-B LLC, filed suit yesterday against the established Canadian firm Allan Window Technologies, as well as Kreisler Borg Florman General Construction, based in Scarsdale, N.Y., claiming the windows and their installation were defective. The suit says the windows were warranted for seven years to be water tight and weather tight, but allegedly they are not. A source familiar with the project said Allan Windows has attempted to repair the windows, but the results were not satisfactory, resulting in the suit. Owner has incurred and will continue to incur costs, expenses and losses associated with repair and/or replacement of the window wall systems in an amount in excess of $10 million, the suit says. Kenneth Roberts, a member of the law firm Cozen OConnor, who represented the developers, declined to comment. Toll Brothers and L&M Development declined to comment. RD Management, Allan Windows and Kreisler Borg did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Barry LePatner, a partner at the construction law firm LePatner & Associates who was not familiar with the suit, said with the decline in building activity, investigators from the states attorney generals office have fewer new projects to oversee. That gives them more time to scrutinize the complaints that do arrive in general. As a result, sponsors want to show they are being proactive in fixing the problems, even as a suit such as this is an acknowledgment that the building has a major flaw. Developers like Toll want to show that they are doing the right thing by the people they are selling to when there is an obvious defect. They are doing the right thing, and in this kind of marketplace it is the smart thing to do, LePatner said.


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Rebuttal to Pete (again)

#13Author of original report

Wed, April 18, 2012

Pete, 

Again  you are making wild accusations with no basis on fact:

"No, you went in to your neighbors townhouse without permission and took pictures. You then used those pictures to induce the inspector to investigate. Then again on a separate occasion, you went into your neighbor's townhouse to show the inspector."

The inspector was called by the Commissioner of New York State to the NYC Health Department. And if YOU CHECK THEIR RECORDS,  no photos of Ms. Manas' property were provided for them to start this inspection. The disaster that is Townhouse C was enough for them to investigate.

"You admit that you went in with the inspector and you didn't have permission. That's trespassing."

If you need to put words in my mouth, that means you are lying and getting desperate, and this is not the first time, and just like before, I will let the facts speak for themselves.

Sabine's townhouse was gutted and deemed a construction site. Bill Butler actually met me and the Inspector at the door. Sabine's townhouse and townhouse C shared a common wall through which sewage was seeping into Townhouse C from her townhouse, thus as the representative of the Owner of Townhouse C, I have a right to see the source of the water infiltration. And furthermore, the Inspector GAVE ME PERMISSION to accompany him. When I am there under the jurisdiction of a New York City Official, it is not trespassing. 

And I have said it all before.


"If you were falsely arrested, I'm sure you filed a complaint. Oh, wait. You never did."

Yes I didn't and you know why? Because it is now a CIVIL MATTER. Sabine and all her conspirators are going to be SUED.

I stick to the facts, which are recorded and documented and can be verified. Too bad I cannot say the same for your "facts" and accusations; which displayed an astonishing ignorance of the truth and the law.

Here is a bonus for you, some photographic evidence of the TRESPASSING of Townhouse C.

The first photo shows black plastic bags placed over the window where the banner displaying the complaint review number of Ripoff Report was.

The second shows that No Trespassing signs were put up after the bags were taken down.

The third photo shows how the bags were back up, this time on the doors and adjacent windows as well.

Now, isn't THAT trespassing?

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J-Pete

United States of America
You can't argue with a crazy trespassing extortionist

#14General Comment

Tue, April 17, 2012

No, you went in to your neighbors townhouse without permission and took pictures. You then used those pictures to induce the inspector to investigate. Then again on a separate occasion, you went into your neighbor's townhouse to show the inspector.

You admit that you went in with the inspector and you didn't have permission. That's trespassing.

If you were falsely arrested, I'm sure you filed a complaint. Oh, wait. You never did.

Because you weren't falsely arrested.


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Rebuttal to Pete's False Claims

#15Author of original report

Tue, April 17, 2012

Here is another rebuttal to Pete's attempts to put words in my mouth and to re-write history...which is getting tired as you, Pete, is just repeating yourself.

"I saw your new "No Trespassing" signs that you have plastered on the front of your townhouse.  I find it interesting that you have no problem going into other people's townhouses without permission (which you have admitted here you did), but you take serious issue with the thought of someone coming into yours?  How is that not hypocrisy? " 

Well Pete, about time you noticed.
They have been up for WEEKS and how convenient you let out the fact that the "NO TRESPASSING" signs was put up AFTER the Board of Managers appointed someone to TRESPASS onto Townhouse C and place black plastic bags over the windows, blocking our banners; specifically the one with ripoffreport.com's complaint review number.

I found it hypocritical that the board would falsely accused me and then have me falsely arrested for trespassing while at the same time use somebody else to actually trespass into private property to do their dirty work. 


 "And dont give that BS line about how you went into your neighbors townhouse with an inspector.   You went in by yourself and took pictures you crazy loon!   You are lucky that the neighbor and Toll Brothers took mercy on sick individual and didnt follow through on the prosecution. "

I assume this neighbor you are talking about is Sabine Manas. It is on records that the arrest and police report was done in Bill Butler's name. The case was DISMISSED because of two reasons:

1) Bill Butler did not gave a deposition because he did not want to be involved in a false arrest, but the others did, including the neighbor Sabine Manas. So Sabine Manas had nothing to do with my not being prosecuted. But she and the rest have opened themselves to a lawsuit. So you are here, trying to rewrite history to save Sabine's behind. You can say what you want, but official police records show otherwise.

2) I have documented proof that I was in the townhouse accompanied by a city inspector. And I have given the inspector's name already. You may contact him and he can confirm what I said.

Again, Pete, unlike you, I stick to the facts.

Don't talk about hypocrisy when you yourself don't know what it means and can't even tell the truth. 



J-Pete

United States of America
You can't argue with a crazy trespassing extortionist

#16Consumer Comment

Tue, April 17, 2012

Hey Jed! (or KL1969 or PRIVATEER or dean stew or what ever you are calling yourself today - we all know that you are all the same person),

I saw your new "No Trespassing" signs that you have plastered on the front of your townhouse.  I find it interesting that you have no problem going into other people's townhouses without permission (which you have admitted here you did), but you take serious issue with the thought of someone coming into yours?  How is that not hypocrisy?   And dont give that BS line about how you went into your neighbors townhouse with an inspector.   You went in by yourself and took pictures you crazy loon!   You are lucky that the neighbor and Toll Brothers took mercy on sick individual and didnt follow through on the prosecution. 


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
More Rebuttal to Pete

#17Author of original report

Sat, March 17, 2012

Well, Pete, here we go again with your wild claims and accusation. A pathetic attempt to get some evidence in writing. The difference between your claims and mine are is that all of mine are well-documented. So her we go:

"So then you admit that your posting here is nothing more than a petty attempt to advance your pending lawsuit against Toll Brothers and your former neighbors at NSP."

Again, we have advocate for ourselves, nobody else will. If you are not one of those neighbors who were responsible for my false arrest, you have nothing to worry about. But my instinct tell me otherwise.

"Further you admit that calling the fire dept because people left wet shoes on a rainy night in the hallway of the tower was just a way to buttress your grab for money through the courts."

Never have to denied it. But did you not read that I called the fire department because I tripped? And it is a fire hazard and the fire department issued a warning to keep the hallways unobstructed.

"You must then also admit that you illegally broke into your neighbor's townhouse to take pictures because you somehow thought that you could gather more evidence to augment your lawsuit and desire for ill gotten gains."

Again, as I have stated in the original complaint, I accompanied Glen Revan, a NYS official. he also documented the date and time I was there. The case was dismissed by a judge. So let's again, set the record straight: I didn't break into any townhouses, but there WAS a false arrest. If this goes into a lawsuit, I have proof of when and where I was and with whom. You do not.

"You must also admit that you blocked every attempt by toll to address any defect in your unit for your own profit. Also, please admit that you obstructed and ultimately opted out of every attempt by Toll to reach an agreement with you to remedy any defect and fairly compensate you for any inconvienance you may have experienced. Instead of accepting a fair resolution that all of your neighbors accepted, you decided to launch a one man, 5 sensory assault on the tenants and your neighbors of 1NSP for your own profit."

Again, as I have stated in my original post, we lost our insurance because of the situation with the townhouse and cannot risk having irreplaceable valuables broken as you can attest, the entire townhouse needed to be gutted entirely. All our possessions need to be packed and moved. It would be a major operation. Thus it was why the owner and me suggested that we were to be moved to another unit so they can work on townhouse C, a suggestion which you admitted was a "fair resolution", as they went along with it with you and the other two owners. But not us.

At this point, we simply want out. We offered a "fair resolution", they didn't want it.

"What kind of greedy, self centered, narcissistic person puts their own profit motive above the interests of his neighbors'?"

Toll Brothers and YOU.


PRIVATEER

Brooklyn,
United States of America
Cussing Gypsy Peter - RANTS

#18Consumer Comment

Sat, March 17, 2012

Have you actually read J's complaint above? It has been documented that J went into "YOUR" Townhouse accompanying a NYC Health Inspector and the case was dismissed. All the reasons on why he didn't let people worked in the townhouse are already mentioned: their insurance was dropped.

And remember, it was J's idea to have Toll to pack him up and set him up in another place, an idea which you stole from him and have yourself taken care of

I don't blame him for not wanting anything to do with the townhouse or toll brothers and he just want to get out. Toll Brothers have proven to be nothing to be untrustworthy liars and it seems so are those who speak in their defense.

Again, everything you claimed have been disproved by documents, official and otherwise. J is right, because if this goes into a lawsuit, he can provide proof, YOU can't and you would held liable.


J-Pete

United States of America
Can't argue with a crazy Extortionist!!!!

#19Consumer Comment

Sat, March 17, 2012

So then you admit that your posting here is nothing more than a petty attempt to advance your pending lawsuit against Toll Brothers and your former neighbors at NSP.

Further you admit that calling the fire dept because people left wet shoes on a rainy night in the hallway of the tower was just a way to buttress your grab for money through the courts. You must then also admit that you illegally broke into your neighbor's townhouse to take pictures because you somehow thought that you could gather more evidence to augment your lawsuit and desire for ill gotten gains. You must also admit that you blocked every attempt by toll to address any defect in your unit for your own profit. Also, please admit that you obstructed and ultimately opted out of every attempt by Toll to reach an agreement with you to remedy any defect and fairly compensate you for any inconvienance you may have experienced. Instead of accepting a fair resolution that all of your neighbors accepted, you decided to launch a one man, 5 sensory assault on the tenants and your neighbors of 1NSP for your own profit.

What kind of greedy, self centered, narcissistic person puts their own profit motive above the interests of his neighbors'?


J-Pete

United States of America
Can't argue with a crazy Extortionist!!!!

#20Consumer Comment

Sat, March 17, 2012

So then you admit that your posting here is nothing more than a petty attempt to advance your pending lawsuit against Toll Brothers and your former neighbors at NSP.

Further you admit that calling the fire dept because people left wet shoes on a rainy night in the hallway of the tower was just a way to buttress your grab for money through the courts. You must then also admit that you illegally broke into your neighbor's townhouse to take pictures because you somehow thought that you could gather more evidence to augment your lawsuit and desire for ill gotten gains. You must also admit that you blocked every attempt by toll to address any defect in your unit for your own profit. Also, please admit that you obstructed and ultimately opted out of every attempt by Toll to reach an agreement with you to remedy any defect and fairly compensate you for any inconvienance you may have experienced. Instead of accepting a fair resolution that all of your neighbors accepted, you decided to launch a one man, 5 sensory assault on the tenants and your neighbors of 1NSP for your own profit.

What kind of greedy, self centered, narcissistic person puts their own profit motive above the interests of his neighbors'?


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Rebuttal to Pete

#21Author of original report

Fri, March 16, 2012

Alright Pete, since you think I am being set up in a penthouse,  I suppose you assume that is the case because you are set up in a penthouse as well? Then I guess it is safe to assume that you are one of the owners of one of the other townhouses?

Thus it would be safe to say that you have been compensated by Toll Brothers and thus you are trying to show that you are on their side. You are trying to spread misinformation that the owner IS being compensated but is haggling for more money so that anybody else reading this will think we are, as you words, "extortionists".

Tsk tsk, Pete, you have to do better than that, because your claim of my compensation can easily be disproved when this all goes into a lawsuit, of which you too, will be involved as I suspect you are responsible for my false arrest. That claim also be disproved when Toll Brothers is subpoenaed or questioned by city officials. I don't think they would take kindly to being lied to.

I don't take kindly to being lied about.

Meanwhile, here's a little something for you, another proof about what a joke of a townhouse that we were pressured and suckered into buying:

The doors to the first floor balcony have to be sealed with tape because cold wind and air is blowing through. I am sure you like paying your $400 a month Con Ed bill.







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J-Pete

United States of America
Can't argue with an Extortionist!!!!

#22Consumer Comment

Fri, March 16, 2012

This is EXACTLY what you would do in the NSP lobby.  Stand there at the doorman station, and when you were not hitting on the doorman, accosting us innocent tenants with your story of woe.  There were 4 affected townhouses, but the other three did not make it their mission to stand in the lobby with a notebook full of pictures, letters and complaints that you had made over every petty issue.  I am not even talking about water damage, but cracks in sidewalks, paint trim, and other petty stuff.  But no one cared then and no one cares now?  Except for your 4 alter egos, no other person is commenting here.  You are a lone crazy voice that no one hears or cares to hear.   As a matter of fact, we are relishing in your absence.  It sounds cruel to say, but you made such a nuisance of yourself through all of your complaints, that no one even cares if you do have a legitimate issue. 

Oh, and BTW, in life unfortunate things happen.  Sometimes things do have unintended defects.  But Toll is addressing the issues and providing compensation.  But clearly not enough compensation for you.   It sounds to me like you are just an extortionist who wants get as much money out of Toll as possible.  The fact that they put you in a penthouse apt, want to repair your townhouse, and provide compensation demonstrates that they are being responsible.   But you have your hand out demanding more.   I have heard your threats of suing everybody; Toll, Tolls contractor, the management company, the condo board.   You are just in this for the money. 


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
More Example of Water Leaking

#23Author of original report

Fri, March 16, 2012

This photo show that even water is leaking from the fireplace in the townhouse!

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KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Water Damage in Ceiling of Common Hallway

#24Author of original report

Wed, March 14, 2012

This photo showed the area in the ceiling in the common hallway that connected all four townhouses that we saw in our initial walk thru in November 2009. This photo was taken nearly a year later in August 30th 2011 and once again, water had infiltrated here. They had to remove the section again to do repairs.

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PRIVATEER

Brooklyn,
United States of America
Cuss "GYPSY" Pete WOK

#25Consumer Comment

Wed, March 14, 2012

GYPSY WOK PETE

Why are you blowing off answering the questions? Sore loser!

Your credibility is shot!

Game over you lost.

Remove your umbrella, boots, black tray and mat inside to your "comfortable Toll apartment.

Please stop sniffing up the owners and residents pants. Especially, J's.

Keep your "fetish" inside your Toll Brothers comfortable padded cell apartment.

"Sore Loser Cuss Gypsy Wok Peter" - you sure need a mind enema. Your mind is challenged. Remenber you do not have a medical license to diganosis anyone much less four different blogers.

You are a meanspirted mind full of malice. Try a colonic to rid the Toll Brothers toxins in your body- seek help!

Game over

You lost

Donate to the NYCFD fund for Fireman and their families who die by people like you who are negligent!


J-Pete

United States of America
KL1969, Privateer, Dean Stew, and Jed are all the same person

#26Consumer Comment

Tue, March 13, 2012

Maybe different personalities however.  They guy has some deep psychological disorders. 


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
LET THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES

#27Author of original report

Mon, March 12, 2012

This a is photo of the cellar in Townhouse C, showing the leak. Entire sections of the carpet had been removed. This was taken on August 29th 2011.

Before closing they denied there were leaks and water issue. Now they are admitting it, but what do they care since they got their ill-gotten money.

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PRIVATEER

Brooklyn,
United States of America
Cuss GYPSY "BiPolar" Pete is losing BIG TIME !!!!

#28Consumer Comment

Mon, March 12, 2012


Cuss GYPSY  "Bipolar" -Pete

Your losing on "Whats my Toll Brother's "Facts and Truth & Justice" answers !!!" 

Score 0

Please answer the questions and take your psychotropics?

Why are your heating bills "HIGH?"

Why are the windows "blowing out" of the casements, along with "water and air filtration blowing" through your Toll Brothers "SIGNATURE" Windows?

Why is the "cladding blowing off" on the Tower 1?

Why is there "scaffolding" outside the facade of Tower 1 for a year and a half?

Why are you putting your boots, umbrella, mat and a black tray in the common area? It's a fire hazard and would you want to compromise a Fireman's life and family?

Why don't you and the NSP Tower 1 follow rules and NYCFD Fire-safety?
A. It"s against NYC rules.
B. Tower 1 roof was already on fire during construction. Is that where your leaks are coming originate?

Have "you" been comfortable in your Toll Brothers "uncomfortable building" with all these legitimate issue?

Why are you blowing off answering the questions? Sore loser!





J-Pete

United States of America
You cant argue with Crazy!!!

#29Consumer Comment

Mon, March 12, 2012

You didnt explain why you sometimes smell as if you crapped your pants.   Or is it because you crapped your pants?


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
A rebuttal to Pete

#30Author of original report

Mon, March 12, 2012

Let me refute your rebuttal one claim at a time:

"First off, we all know that KL1969, Privateer, Dean Stew, and Jed are all the same person.  You did the same thing on StreetEasy.  "

Wrong. Much to your dismay, there are people who have seen first hand what I have experienced and they backed me 100%. Although I did posted the original report as JED.

"Second, you didnt live in the Tower, you lived in the townhouse adjacent to the Tower."

True, and didn't Privateer told you that I TRIPPED in the hallway because of those things?

"Third, if you dont see how calling the fire department on people in a building in which you dont even live is messed up, then there is really no help for you.  Just like you dont understand why accosting people in the lobby does not engender sympathy for you , or wiping your a*s gets rid of that I just crapped my pants smell."

By not following rules and regulations set down implicitly by the NYFD is messed up. I did not accost people in the lobby, I was waiting for Mark Cardasco as ever since this thing started, he wasn't very responsive to my calls.


"It's too bad that you purchased a townhouse that had water damage.  I am sure that it is an inconvenience. "

Since you do admit that the townhouse is water damaged, which means you would agree with everything that I have said about Toll Brothers, and please do note that I am not the only one who complained about their purchases and Toll Brothers, but I am the one who have his health compromised, and also the only one who was arrested for "trespassing."

And also, an inconvenience is an understatement for it considering that I can't even live there.


"But I am sure that you are being compensated.  For example, the picture of the exterior of townhouses that you put up was taken from the Penthouse apartment that Toll brothers is renting for you next store."

First of all, if Toll Brothers is actually compensating the owner and is setting me up in another place, then why is townhouse C still not gutted and renovated like the other 3? And believe me, if I am being compensated, I am pretty sure I will have to sign a confidentiality agreement and I wouldn't even be here at Ripoff Report.

Finally, that picture you are referring to is taken from across the street by someone who lives there and  is also well aware of the shenanigans of Toll Brothers and the joke that is building I at Northside Piers. "Multiple accounts" indeed.

"And in the meantime, you are undertaking a narcissist and pathological agenda to make as big of an eyesore out of your townhouse as possible."

The Board of Managers and the Management Company took Toll Brothers' side from the very beginning, and still do. Then we will have to advocate for ourselves. 

Thus, if you are going to blog be sure you have the facts.



J-Pete

United States of America
You can't argue with Crazy!!!!

#31Consumer Comment

Mon, March 12, 2012

First off, we all know that KL1969, Privateer, Dean Stew, and Jed are all the same person.  You did the same thing on StreetEasy.   

Second, you didnt live in the Tower, you lived in the townhouse adjacent to the Tower.

Third, if you dont see how calling the fire department on people in a building in which you dont even live is messed up, then there is really no help for you.  Just like you dont understand why accosting people in the lobby does not engender sympathy for you , or wiping your a*s gets rid of that I just crapped my pants smell.

Lastly, you use city authorities (building dept, fire dept, HHS, etc) the way that a drunk uses a lamp post.  The fire department should be out saving lives and putting out fires, not responding to your petty, imaginary,  grievances with your neighbors.

Its too bad that you purchased a townhouse that had water damage.  I am sure that it is an inconvenience.  But I am sure that you are being compensated.  For example, the picture of the exterior of townhouses that you put up was taken from the Penthouse apartment that Toll brothers is renting for you next store.  And in the meantime, you are undertaking a narcissist and pathological agenda to make as big of an eyesore out of your townhouse as possible.  And again, the only people that you are hurting are the people who live at NSP whose quality of life you seem determined to diminish any way you can think of. 


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Hallway Photo

#32Author of original report

Sat, March 10, 2012

Pete,

First of all, I do live in building I and this a photo the stuff people lay out in the hallway. The black tray at the end of the hall was there year around. It was not a one time or one day thing.

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dean stew

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Wrong again

#33General Comment

Fri, March 09, 2012

I won't continually defend this Man's reputation. The name calling and accusations are not only SO biased with your delusional hatred, and immature judgements that they barely worth merit.

His dogs had allergies and were suffering from the mold. The dogs getting sick from the mold is what brought attention to the mold in the first place. I know him very well and each and every time those dogs were outside there was a good reason, and they carelessly slept there in the sun for hours. Your accusations are pure hatred and judgement towards another human being. Someone you cared not to take seriously or listen to as I did, and you are in complete error of even attempting to define him. 

He is a truth teller, a genius, and a persistent warrior fighting for what's right. When people took it personal towards him, trying to shut him up, and send him every which way for being wronged, they indeed picked a worthy opponent. Any issue you have with him is clearly an issue with yourself. To be so emotionally involved in someone's protest shows you are somehow immature. He deseves to have a brand new million dollar home have a shred of integrity. What he got crumbled like a piece of blue cheese and attacking of evil monkeys flew from it! (aka. Troll Brothers goons).

The issue is HOW Toll Brothers has handled the issue like crooked children. The issue is how some neighbors can easily let this be someone else's problem, and some people make it their problem. I don't own any property NS1 or 2, and as a total outsider here, I applaud this man for being tenacious and pushing back against the corporate cronyism that pervades Toll Brothers and it's adversaries. 

I have seen their people shouting and screaming in his face, but I have never seen him shout back. Only clever, and constructive protest. This man is the Ghandi of the gated community. If you don't like him you could just ignore him and go back to your scratched up walnut floors and b**ch at the doorman when YOU'RE having a bad day.


PRIVATEER

Brooklyn,
United States of America
"Cuss GYPSY pete STKIKES AGAIN!"

#34Consumer Comment

Fri, March 09, 2012

FYI, Cuss Gypsy pete:

J's dogs are well taken care of. They go out all the time and at all hours. Were they starved and dehydrated at any time? Why didnt you call the ASPCA? Were you scrutinizing the dogs 24/7 and stalking J?

And about those shoes in the common hallway, he had tripped on one of them visting a friend and having them in the hallway is a fire hazard. It makes me laugh that everybody is free to break the rules except him, and he's the one who's being penalize for it.

Then again, we are diverging from the real issue at hand, which is another Toll Brothers tactic that it have passed on to the puppet board of managers. I had you "react" to show everyone what type of person you are to write such dribble. Now let's address the real issues. Why are the three Townhouses gutted? Can you bring yourself to answers the questions. Why is the scaffolding there for over a year and a half? Why is the TB Signature windows blowing out, cold air and rain blowing through the casement? Why can't you bring yourself to answer the questions of that were posed to you.


J-Pete

United States of America
Cant argue with Crazy!!!!

#35Consumer Comment

Fri, March 09, 2012

Nope, sorry.  Guess again.  I am just one of the many tenants of NSP1 whom you annoyed constantly.

I cant tell you what a relief it is to be able to walk through the lobby without the risk of an unkempt, narcissistic freak stopping me to try and get me to listen to his complaints against Toll Brothers.  You couldnt get anyone to care when you lived there, what makes you think its going to be any different now?   And what you call people ganging up on you is actually just normal people coming together to protect themselves from the likes of you.   For example, what was your point when on a rainy December night, you called the fire warden to complain about people in the Tower leaving their shoes outside their doors to dry?   You didnt even live in the tower!  But somehow, the thought of wet shoes outside peoples door in the common area of a building you didnt live in was just too much for you and you had to make an issue out of it and call the fire department. 

Speaking of your dogs, what would you say the size of the area is where you locked up your dogs during the day?  It is not bigger than 4 feet by 6 feet.   Hardly sufficient for two large golden retrievers.   When I think of those poor dogs and the conditions in which you subjected them.  Even on the hottest summer days you left them in that exposed area that was supposed to be for trash cans, but where you  penned your dogs.  They were forced to sit where they went to the bathroom and because of the small area, would step in and knock over their water bowl. It was heartbreaking to see.  They should be taken away from you and put in a safe, caring home. 


PRIVATEER

Brooklyn,
United States of America
Cuss "GYPSY Pete - Maybe MR. Raz?" Exposed

#36Consumer Comment

Fri, March 09, 2012

Cuss "GYPSY" Pete may be Mr. RAZ the Footman Porter Relationship: *REBUTTAL Report: Ironic. Mystery solved! After reading this I went over your word choices. The Porter Doorman Mr. Raz, would call the Conciege Desk a Doorman Station. He always calls the dogs sweet as a Gypsy peasant boy in Tower I. Need I say more.

NSP Staff needs not to comment on this thread unless they have constructive information and can answer questions.

If I remember correctly. When you arrived all the DVD were "missing" from the NSP Media Room. You constantly played "Solitaire" when you were on the Doorman Station, speaking to everyone about your gay friends and your Romanian wife you married; for money. Once she finish her Romanian education you were going to have her support you. Sure you were paid to get her a Green Card as you should hear yourself talk. It's obvious you are the Gypsy Footman Porter who spews discension in Tower I. " A liar!" Continue to throw out the trash with yourself in the barrel. I agree you are the "lowest of lows!" This is why you would not answers the questions. You couldn't answer as your post was lies and full of malice. One thing I will not be missing is my DVD I haven't donated to the Media Room since the last batch mysteriouly disapeared. J's boys, Polo & Rugby are not not missing you. Those boys are treated better then you treated your two pit bulls. You "bragged" how you kept them in cages. Be gone with you Childest Gypsy Demon Abusive talk and ways! Its clear now you were sniffing your own a*s! We are laughing at you! Make a name for yourself by getting a education and support a family.


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
MOLD

#37Author of original report

Fri, March 09, 2012

This picture is of the mold that is growing in the cellar of Townhouse C.
This is what Toll Brothers and the building's Board of Managers expect a disabled man to live with.

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KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
NSP Boiler Room

#38Author of original report

Thu, March 08, 2012

This picture show one of the many instances that the building is mismanaged, storing junk in the boiler room when you are not supposed to as it poses a hazard.

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PRIVATEER

Brooklyn,
United States of America
Cuss "Gypsy" Pete

#39Consumer Comment

Wed, March 07, 2012

"It is a sad commentary on public discourse that it has become acceptable to ignore or respond to the facts of a particular matter and easier to attack personally with whatever nasty thoughts the responder has." Can you please answer the questions pose to you? Why are the three Townhouses gutted? Why is the scaffolding there for over a year and a half? Why is the NSP "Signature Windows" faulty, blowing out, allowing air & rain penetrated through to your "quality Toll Brothers comfortable home?" These are business questions and need to be addressed without making this personal.


dean stew

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Childish people

#40General Comment

Wed, March 07, 2012

What a childish attempt to belittle someone. Like a coward you post insults anonymously, no less viscous than a klansman in a mask.

Those dogs were very well cared for and never once did they sit in their own feces. You must have that confused with your childhood because you are a glaring cry for help yourself.

I like how at one point you claim you feel so bad for a crazy old man, who is sick of the mind. The next minute you go for the very thing to provoke him? You are clearly a sadist. At the very least you are a liar, with a close relationship with the doorman. Could it be that you are the prostitute who bribes the doorman? We all know the shady people who have volunteered to take up arms against a sweet old man

He has always smelled just fine, and also is a friendly, kind human being. If you have taken issue with him, that's your fault.

What a feeble minded evil person are you!? The lowest of the low.


J-Pete

United States of America
Cant argue with crazy!!!

#41Consumer Comment

Wed, March 07, 2012

I just remember him constantly in the lobby at the doorman's station with his note book harassing everyone/anyone who walked by and would listen to him.  Everyone just laughed at this him and wanted to avoid him so-much so that some of us would even exit through the garage when he was stationed in the lobby.  Also, from time-to-time, he smelled as if he crapped his pants.  It has been a great relief for us all that he has left.  For no one more so than the poor doormen whom he kept hitting on.  The only part of him I miss are the two sweet dogs that he abused by locking them in the area between the front door and the garbage cans for hours on end.  The poor things had to sit amongst their own urine and defecation because the area was so small.  They seemed like really nice dogs despite the abuse. 


dean stew

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Toll Bros Goons be GONE!

#42General Comment

Wed, March 07, 2012

You spelled Authenticity incorrectly. Subconsciously you have revealed that you are an inauthentic person by doing so. I also like how you attack the victim here, and call him "mentally disabled" and crazy, however, that's also about you. You also can't label someone mentally disabled because they are protesting. The name calling on this thread shows an emotional maturity of about 12. (And spelling words incorrectly with auto spell's help at your service is inexcusable even for a 12 year old.)

I have viewed this entire fiasco as an outsider. I have no investment property to protect, and I do not work for Toll Brothers. Nobody else on this thread can claim that. I am merely a passerby. Someone who has seen the whole thing unravel, and the truth remains to be seen that Toll Brothers should be prosecuted for more than just selling lemons.

There was black mold behind all these walls, and could it have killed someone? Yes. Could it have killed a child. Yes. And Toll Brothers took to this project kicking and screaming like a baby, not taking any responsibility for it what so ever. Every single step of the way.

Toll Brothers has just as much power to get those signs down and have this matter resolved as the tenant in question does. Why then, have they not reached a deal? Because every single step of the way, they have lied, manipulated, and taken it to a level of personal offense. No wonder this man has signs over his whole house, everyone attacks him without anyone even stopping to understand why! He is a protester in his own home!

I know this man as an undeniably well connected, and is beyond the best legally represented member of our community. The fact that he has even HAD to take things to this level shows you the maturity, and responsibility of Toll Brothers and nothing more. If I was in the same situation I wouldn't have taken it as well as he has. 

I have seen Toll Brothers employees throwing temper tantrums screaming in his face like a toddler. I have seen him falsely accused of crimes and jailed. People are not treating this man as a mentally disabled nuisance. They have treated him like a scapegoat. 

I was looking into purchasing a home at Northside Piers just a few years back, oh how am I grateful to have not done such a thing. Sell a home and deny any responsibility for huge, life threatening issues, and then try to smear it all as the antics of someone crazy. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. 

Just think if this man was a quiet, timid man. He found mold in his apt, and said only a few things quietly only to have Toll Brothers say "sorry, this is not our issue, call your insurance". Meanwhile the insurance says "that apartment was just built, sorry call Toll Brothers". Then years go by, the black mold takes over the townhouses, and everyone dies in them. That's what WOULD have happened if it were not for this man, constantly pulling teeth to make sure something was done.

If you are thinking of buying anything that says Toll Brothers, DO NOT. They have tried to frame this man, they have attacked this man, they have ripped this man off. They have drones of zombie employees that feed on the lies they sell, and they cannot spell words to save their life.

All the tenants of Northside Piers that have issue with this man should side with him and not against him. Just wait until your non-certified construction that you paid millions for starts falling apart at the seams, and see the attack monkeys fly in your direction.

I would not mess with this dude if I were you. He stands on the correct side of this issue, and justice will be served. You can say he's crazy all you want, and he is eccentric, and not many people would take his route, but he has been correct about everything. He obviously knows that he will upset people by putting these signs up, and I congratulate him for taking the necessary steps to get the results he wants. 

If you knew this man like I do, you'd know he's a genius with a heart of gold. He has used every tool at his disposal to resolve this issue: Protesting, persistence, and patience. Toll Brothers has used conniving, manipulation, lies, brut force, name calling, and the list goes on and on. This is truly a fight between good and evil, and good always wins. 

Mark my words, you will all see this man walk with exactly what he wants, deserves, and then some. There is absolutely no way to dispute facts, and truth with name calling and babyish behavior. 


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Question for Pete

#43Author of original report

Wed, March 07, 2012

Pete, you can't argue with the facts and it is telling that you avoided the questions.
Look at the attached picture.
Why are all the townhouses except for Townhouse C are all gutted?

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PRIVATEER

Brooklyn,
United States of America
Cuss Pete playing the sore loser

#44Consumer Comment

Wed, March 07, 2012

Cuss Pete -

Noun: An annoying or stubborn person or animal: "he was certainly an unsociable cuss".

Why don't you be "prolific" protecting your investment instead of mud slinging. Are you a Doctor? Can you make such a diagnosis. I can make one statement that defines you - "MIND CHALLEGED!"

You have purchase a "liability" and need to fight your battle with Toll Brothers. It's clear by your post your not lucid. Maybe the mold has affected your cognitive skills as it has your Board of Managers. Seek advice to be "proactive" in a remedy to stall off a 500 unit rental from devaluing your Toll Brothers comfortable home. Use what left of your mind to tape up your air infiltrated windows that Toll Brothers stated they will only correct up to Department of Building standards.

It's public knowledge that Toll Brothers acknowledge faulty window installation and took a survey. Focus on correcting the problem for yourself and all of Northside Piers before a Douglas Development 500 unit rental takes over Northside Piers planned condominium complex. Surely, you invested not to be in a rental environment. Or you would of never join the resurgence to Brooklyn for Toll Brothers non quality living and high electric bills!


J-Pete

United States of America
You can't argue with crazy

#45Consumer Comment

Tue, March 06, 2012

Its very sad but this guy is not all there.  He did the same thing on StreetEasy; assumed multiple screen names and had ranting conversations with himself.  I am not going to pick on someone with a mental disability.  However, clearly, one has to question the honesty and authentisity of someone who uses multiple aliases in a forum like this. 


PRIVATEER

Brooklyn,
United States of America
Cuss can you read? Pete do you know the facts?

#46Consumer Comment

Tue, March 06, 2012

Cusa- Haven't you read the post? The owner is in the process of buy back. Also, the guy living there is disabled and thus that is why he is bringing up the handicap accessible elevator! And this is what Toll Brothers wants, keep the owners and buyers divided.

Pete- Unfortunately if the board and the lawyer represent all the owners they needed to file with the Attorney General office. If you think scaffolding for the last year and half has not affecting your purchase. Wake up it has! NSP Board has not done anything about the new Tower III going up and not filing a lawsuit is your lost and neigbors. Didn't you and others purchase "in" a planned Toll Brothers City Living Northside Piers Condo Community? All did not purchase knowing a 500 Unit rental is being built by Jeff Levine of the EDGE--- you have a case of protecting a plan community ... and protecting Northside Piers. Northside Piers Board is to protect the good, bad and indifferent. Come down on yourself. The MAN who was living in Townhouse C woke your up to reality. Stop bring self absorbed and start reading the facts. The narrative fully explains Northside Piers Horror of shoddy workmanship, water infitration, ground water and that's also in Tower I cellar. The MAN quality of life was compromised by your Board's failure. He had the courage to advocate back to the Northside Community and he in the short term abd long term is helping you and the other owners protect their investments. It's clear The MAN is the WINNER! Your angry at your and the other neigbors failure to be pro active and file a Attorney Generals complaint. Be carefully the scaffold doesn't hit you in the a*s on your way in and way out of Northside Piers Tower I. Then Toll Brothers accuses you your a*s knock down the scaffolding. Get pro active and call a Emergency Board meeting and give your present Board the boot!


Steve

USA
By ragging on the building you are costing yourself money

#47Consumer Comment

Tue, March 06, 2012

When you try to sell, and people google your place and find this, what do you think that will do to your selling price? 

And why do disabled people always feel the need to mention that fact in these reports when it is unrelated?


KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Rebuttal to Pete

#48Author of original report

Tue, March 06, 2012

Pete, if tenant was the nuisance, why was the boiler room used for storage, why was the handicap elevator blocked by UPS and the his dog was injured? Why was an electric extension cord was plug into the handicap elevator to light a Christmas Tree?

Then also answer this question:

WHY ARE ALL THE TOWNHOUSES GUTTED?

Hooray for you that you didn't experienced any problems from Toll Brothers, and you better pray that you don't because when you do, this is how they will treat you.

Just because you supposedly had a positive experience with Toll Brothers do not give them the license to defraud others. You take their side and rationalize their tactics because you are worried about the resale value of your property.

As for the neighbors who have done nothing to harm the tenant, what about that false arrest? I certainly hoped you are not a member of the board, if you were, you had him falsely arrested and thus open every single member of the board for a lawsuit.



KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Rebuttal to Pete

#49Author of original report

Tue, March 06, 2012

Pete, if tenant was the nuisance, why was the boiler room used for storage, why was the handicap elevator blocked by UPS and the his dog was injured? Why was an electric extension cord was plug into the handicap elevator to light a Christmas Tree?

Then also answer this question:

WHY ARE ALL THE TOWNHOUSES GUTTED?

Hooray for you that you didn't experienced any problems from Toll Brothers, and you better pray that you don't because when you do, this is how they will treat you.

Just because you supposedly had a positive experience with Toll Brothers do not give them the license to defraud others. You take their side and rationalize their tactics because you are worried about the resale value of your property.

As for the neighbors who have done nothing to harm the tenant, what about that false arrest? I certainly hoped you are not a member of the board, if you were, you had him falsely arrested and thus open every single member of the board for a lawsuit.


J-Pete

United States of America
The only person this guys is hurting is other owners of NSP1

#50Consumer Comment

Mon, March 05, 2012

What is sad is that this guy, in his attempt to justly or unjustly express his contempt for Toll Brothers, is only hurting other people in our building.  Toll Brothers has sold all of NSP1 and most of NSP2.  So Toll Brothers is otherwise not affected by his ranting. 

However it is us, the owners and tenants of NSP1, who have to look at the posters and banners that this guy places on the exterior of his unit and whose quality of life is diminished by his actions. 

As an owner in NSP1, I can say that I have not had any of the problems as described by the poster.  I have only had a positive experience with Toll Brothers and NSP1.   So at the end of the day, Toll Brothers has done nothing to me except provide a comfortable apartment, while this disgruntled townhouse owner was a constant nuisance while he was living here and is now trying to make an eyesore out his unit with the misguided believe that he is somehow inflicting some retribution on Toll Brothers.  In doing so, he is only hurting his neighbors who have done nothing to harm or undermine him.



KL1969

Brooklyn,
New York,
United States of America
Why We Closed

#51Author of original report

Fri, February 24, 2012

To Cody from Alvin,

The Owner closed because they would not return the deposit and taking them to court will takes thousands of dollars...and that is one of Toll's strategies:

Drag it out till the buyer couldn't fight them or gives up.

And again, they use another tactic: Promise anything to seal the deal.

Perhaps if we have known about Toll Brothers ahead of time, this townhouse wouldn't even be considered for purchase.

Still, the house was purchased in good faith and because of that, we brought in on ourselves...
I would think Toll Brothers would think somewhere along those lines to rationalize their conduct.


Cody

Alvin,
Texas,
U.S.A.
WOW

#52Consumer Comment

Thu, February 23, 2012

Please correct me if I am wrong, but you knew of issues well before you closed, your gut was telling you something was wrong, yet you went ahead and closed on the property anyway. I would rather lose a deposit and take them to court to get it back than to get stuck with a total lemon.

I feel for you very much, I hate people/companies that screw over other people in the name of the almighty $, but what you did was almost self induced.

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