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  • Report:  #276265

Complaint Review: Wal-Mart - Sanford Florida

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- DeLand, Florida,
Submitted:
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Wal-Mart
3683 Orlando Dr. Sanford, 32773 Florida, U.S.A.
Phone:
407-321-1371
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I started working for Wal-Mart, Store #860, in DeLand, Florida, on 11/7/2005. I was hired as a part-time seasonal cashier at $6.80. I was kept on as a permanent employee after the holiday season ended. I re-injured my back while working as a cashier & informed my personnel manager that I no longer wanted to work for Wal-Mart. During that process, I was made aware of a part-time position in the Vision Center. As I had previous optical experience, I applied for the position & was hired on the spot. This was in February of 2006. Within 1 year, my pay rate went from $6.80/hr. to $9.80, due "exceeds expecations" reports on my regualr evaluations. I was also promoted to a full-time employee shortly thereafter. I did very well at the DeLand Wal-Mart Vision Center, averaging approximately 42% of the monthly sales for my department out of a total of 4 sales associates. Sometime in April of 2006 I approached my manager (Vision Center Manager), Larry Becker, about how I could earn more money or the possibility of being promoted to manager of another Vision Center. I was referred to my District Vision Center Manager, Robert Albury, who after speaking with him, advised me of an opening at the Sanford location (Store #857). I was formally offered the position in June of 2007, at the rate of $16.80/hr. It should also be noted that I would be required to work a minimum of 45/hrs./week, with overtime compensation after 40 hours. I began my management position on July 21st. I had not previously attended the 4 month "Manager Trainee Program". This 4 month training program was not a requirement for "specialty" divisions & was not recommended or offered to me because of my physical limiations (serious back problems).

However, at the time I was offered the position, I was told by my new District Manager, Tami Berry, that in lieu of the "Manager Trainee Program", she would visit me at the Sanford store once each week for a few months to teach all the things I otherwise would have learned from the trainee program. My former District Manager, Robert Albury, also told me he would be my "mentor" & that he, too, would visit me once each week for a period of months to additionally teach me about Wal-Mart policies, procedures, & department manager duties & expections. At no time did either of the District Managers, Ms. Berry or Mr. Albury, come to my store as promised & was not given any information, either verbal or written, as to Wal-Mart policies, procedures or expectations. The ONLY knowlege I had, therefore, was based upon what had been done while I was working at the DeLand location as an "Optical II" employee. In August of 2007, the entire Sanford store (#857) began a remodeling project, beginning with the Vision Center. In order to prepare for the remodeling, we had to move everything out of the old Vision Center into temporary quarters for approximately 2 weeks. On the night of the move out, I was assisted by Tami Berry & 3 other Vision Center managers from other stores as well as one of my employees, Stelios Brittain. During the move out, Ms. Berry had filled a shopping cart full of "trial" contact lenses to be disposed of.

These "trial" lenses are free to the company & free to the patients/customers. I noticed that several of the boxes were, in fact, my prescription & told Tami Berry I would like to keep them. She informed me I was not allowed to keep them, that it would be an "integrity" issue, & I therefore returned the boxes to the shopping cart. I even suggested they at least be donated to the Lions Club who generously assists individuals with their eye care needs if they cannot afford to do so themselves, or to some other similar charity. I was told "no". Stelios & I took the shopping cart to the trash compacter, located in the back of the store, & every single box of contact lenses was disposed of. I did NOT keep any for myself. I did, however, set aside 1 display box of the "Wild Eyes" contact lenses as I knew the optometrist would want to keep these. I, at no time, removed any of the boxes of trials from the shopping cart or any of the their contents from the store. I gave the box of the "Wild Eyes" contact lenses to the doctor, Dr. Vymaris Dominguez, the next day & she was happy they were not disposed of. A few weeks later, however, the doctor offered me & I accepted some trial contact lenses which were my prescription.

I informed the doctor that I had not been allowed to keep any of the lenses that were thrown out by Tami Berry. The doctor said this was NOT the same situation & that she was personally giving them to me. As this had previously been done by the 2 optometrists that worked at the DeLand store I did not see any conflict. Approximately 3 weeks ago, a good friend of mine, Susan Case, had her eyes examined by Dr. Brantley at the DeLand Vision Center & received a prescription for contact lenses, however she did not purchase the lenses at that time because of the expense. My friend showed me her prescription, & I copied the information (doctor's name, date of the exam & the prescription) & told her I would order some free trial lenses for her. I entered her name, address, phone number, date of birth, the doctor's name & date of the exam, along with the prescription into the "BOSS" system which is the system used for ordering eyeglasses or contact lenses. The system can also be used to order trial lenses either for the doctor's own supply or for an individual patient.

I could have, in fact, ordered the trial contact lenses for my friend through the same system we use to order the doctor's supply, which does not require any patient information, & no one would ever have known the difference. As it was NEVER my intention to deceive anyone, much less Wal-Mart, I ordered them as described above, which of course, left a permanent record. I had the option of ordering up to 6 contact lenses for each eye. As they were free to the company, I saw no harm in ordering 6 lenses for each eye (6 pairs) as her Rx was different for each eye. Yes, I certainly could have ordered a smaller amount, but as they were free, I did not see the difference. My friend was a first time contact lens wearer, so I also took that into consideration. First time wearers have a tendency to rip or tear the contact lenses. I advised one of my sales associates, Stelios (Stel) Brittain, to let me know when the trials arrived so I could just take them to my friend. When they arrived, I did take them to my friend.

While working at the Deland location, my former manager, Larry Becker (L.B.) had previously asked me to order several boxes of contact lenses for his daughter. To my knowlege, she was not a patient of any of the Wal-Mart optometrists, & I was just given a "verbal" Rx from L.B. & the contact lenses were ordered from the same system used for ordering the doctor's supply, which means there would not be any specific record that they were ordered for anyone in particular. This was done 4-5 times by me, at my boss's direction. Further, the doctor's "tech", Yvette, & I were also allowed to order free trial lenses for ourselves, again with express permission from L.B. Therefore, when I ordered the trial lenses for my friend, I did not realize I was doing anything wrong. As the company was not charged anything for them, & based upon what had been previously done at the DeLand Vision Center, I was not aware this was a violation of any kind, much less something I could or would be terminated for. Two days ago, on Tuesday, September 25th, after clocking in at 10:00 a.m., I was told the manager for Risk Management & Marketing, Joe Oaks, needed to speak with me immediately. Tami Berry & a store "co-manager", Betty, were also present. I was told to sit in a chair & to look directly at Joe & to not to look behind me at Tami or Betty.

Joe gave me a 15 minute lecture on the various types of cameras used by security & various types of "loss". At the time, I thought he was going to inform me one of my employees in the Vision Center had been stealing, either products or cash. I had NO idea where he was going with this line of discission. Finally, he came to the point. I was first accused of stealing the contact lenses that were in the shopping cart ami Berry told me to dispose of. He insinuated he had either camera footage &/or an actual witness who said otherwise. I told him this was simply not true & that Stel & I had disposed of ALL the contact lenses, as directed, & that I had NOT taken any of them for myself. Mr. Oaks, finally, said he believed me. The next point was regarding my order for the free trial contact lenses for my friend. I was asked why I did this. I told him this had previously done at my old store on a regular basis & that I had no knowlege this was any type of violation. I also informed him that I never received ANY of the training I was promised by Ms. Berry or Mr. Albury, that I had never received any written direction, company manual, etc. as to the specifics regarding the ordering of free trial contact lenses or the policy against accepting them from the optometrist. I was then asked why I had accepted the free trials from Dr. Dominguez & I explained that I had asked the doctor if this was "okay", & that she had told me "yes" as she was personally giving them to me. I told Mr. Oaks, that I was not aware of any of the policies regarding the accepting of contact lenses from the doctor or the policies regarding the ordering of free contact lenses for a patient (a Wal-Mart patient).

Ordinarily, it is my understanding that when an employee violates a company policy other than blatant theft, that he or she would be given a "coaching" where they would then receive an explanation as to what policy had been violated & then they would be given a "written" report regarding the incident to sign acknowleging their wrong-doing. At that point, the employee would be given an opportunity to either correct the problem or at least be made awarevof the specifics of that policy so that it would not happen again. I, at no time, ever received any kind of warning, either written or verbal, & was therefore shocked that I was immediately being terminated. I asked Mr. Oaks for an opportunity to correct the situation, inform other employees in the Vision Center regarding the company policies, & to learn from my honest mistakes. He said the decision was final. At no time did Mr. Oaks or Ms. Berry offer anything in the way of acknowlegement for all the hard work I had given to Wal-Mart. I was crying, understandably, & deeply hurt. It was NEVER my intention to deceive or knowingly do anything wrong & I feel I should have been offered the chance to learn from my mistakes & help others to learn from them, too. They, Mr. Oaks & Ms. Berry, were extremely harsh & unkind & I felt I was treated with much less dignity than a shoplifter might have received. I feel this situation is honestly a case "wrongful termination" based upon the lack of training, lack of any warnings or coachings regarding these matters, & the fact that I based my actions entirely on "what had been done before", which is the ONLY thing I had to go on. I hope you or someone can be of assistance to me. I would like my job back, a job that I worked VERY hard to get & a job I truly enjoyed, or at the very least be compensated until such time as I can obtain other employment at the same rate of pay. It was my intention to keep my job as Vision Center Manager until I retire. I am 56 years old & plan on retiring at 62. Again, PLEASE help me if you can. I am so sad. Thank you.

Piper

DeLand, Florida

U.S.A.

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6 Updates & Rebuttals

Josh

Kingwood,
West Virginia,
U.S.A.
I guess you could call me a Wal-Mart Policy Buff, but there's issues with this...

#2UPDATE Employee

Thu, January 24, 2008

Ms. Berry requested that you throw INVENTORIED items into the trash compactor... That's the first red flag. You should have probably asked if they were taken out of inventory, but I do understand that you probably weren't aware of this, because I wasn't until I got off of register and onto the floor. This puts into effect, a concept called "Shrink." This is where inventoried items come up missing. Every delivery that is delivered into the store, whether it be contacts, prescription glasses, etc. are placed into Wal-Mart inventory. When the On-Hand (on the Telxon, Gemini, whatever your store uses) doesn't match up with the actual onhand, there is a very high shrink rate, which should be red-flagging Asset Protection Coordinators, Managers, and Associates Store-Wide!!! The second part is that even if they were taken out of inventory properly, they should have went to claims, not the compactor. From claims, they go to CMI, which then process them back to the manufacturer for disposal/recycling. It is without a doubt that the actions told for you to do by Ms. Berry lost your store a buku load of profit as well. (Point blanc, this is not your fault, you should have been told this to begin with.) But it's a good thing you got out of Wal-Mart... There's better for you than that... I'm only 19, and my primary dept. is Electronics, but I already know much more than most of my management through studying guides on the WIRE (their online reference) and using practicality. So I'm gonna just try to work my way up and fix the mess that Wal-Mart is causing... And good luck... keep me in mind when you're a top optomitrist!!! :)


Sj

Hardesty,
Oklahoma,
U.S.A.
The Reality of a Corporate Ethics Policy

#3Consumer Comment

Sun, December 30, 2007

Piper, You sound like a nice person. The unfortunate reality is that you appear, by your own admission, to have violated policy - either knowingly or unknowingly. Your former employer has an Ethics Policy which you (whether you recall or not) acknowledged as having read or being aware of. Regardless - the policy is usually available in some form or another from the organization - either through leaders or through a company intranet - so claiming that you were not aware of it is a mute point. Also - claiming that you were not properly trained or mentored, is probably not going to provide you with much support for a wrongful termination claim - you were able to perform the basic duties of the job as you have described in your posting. You may have violated policy on several counts: 1. Ordering lenses for the manager's daughter may have been an ethics violation which you did not report - your responsibility as a manager. 2. Giving the "Wild Eyes" lenses to the eye doctor was another possible violation as they were intended to be destroyed. Giving them to the doctor may have been seen as a violation as they could be construed as a "gift to a vendor." There are business reasons why these items need to be destroyed - especially if outdated. 3. The Doctor providing you with free lenses - particularly after you have been verbally made aware of the policy by another manager - consistutes a gift to you by a vendor. Definately an ethics policy violation with most employers - particularly in retail. 4. Ordering lenses for your friend with the intention of giving them to her for free -this constitutes utilizing private corporate knowledge and equipment for personal use - a type of theft. Regardless of whether the trial lenses are given "for free" or not, someone pays for them. We pay for them in the cost of other services - when we abuse the "free services" we pay for it with an increase in the cost of other services. Every choice you make has a consequence. You can only go forward with your lessons learned and find other employment. As a manager you have more responsibility to make certain you are aware of policies, and if you feel you aren't getting the training you need, then bring it to the attention of those who should be providing it to you. Never be a wall-flower with your career.


Scottw

Cookville,
Texas,
U.S.A.
It Happens! Texas is also an at will employment state.

#4Consumer Comment

Tue, November 20, 2007

Texas is also an at will employment state. I guess there could be a smidgeon of truth that ignorance of policy is no excuse, but I really don't believe that. Although not required, education of job responsablities is only fair. Tossing someone an employee handbook is not education. While it may not technically be classified as wrongful termination, it was not the proper way for them to go about letting you go. Everybody makes mistakes at work and in life. Even our judicial system allows criminals more chances to correct their actions. You should have been warned first. Keep a positive attitude and keep on doing the best job you can. Some employers are just that way, don't let them get you down. Employee education starts at the top. Those people in upper management have a responsabilty to train you to the best of their knowledge. Policy gets broken all of the time unknowingly. This occurance should have been their opportunity to fill you in on a problem they saw that existed. Those security tapes they were refering to, they don't just routinly watch those. You were probably the victim of a jelous co worker. You'll be better of working for people who care anyway, it may have been the best thing to happen to you!


Steven

Jacksonville,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Ignorance is no excuse

#5Consumer Suggestion

Mon, November 12, 2007

Don't mean that to insinuate you are ignorant. You are not. Just that not knowing policies is not much of a defense. You as a manager should have made yourself aware of the policies (the ones in writing). The way I see it you can either appeal to management above the store manager and say you feel you were denied due process in accordance with company policies. That may or may not help since FL is an "at will" employee state meaning that unless you have a contract to the contrary that employment is at will. You can leave or be let go without any prior notice. The other poster had some good ideas though. You should be able to find employment elsewhere with no problems and heck they probably even pay alot more than Walmart does. Best of luck


Bart

Springfield,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Responses already posted.

#6Consumer Comment

Mon, November 12, 2007

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Lainie

New City,
New York,
U.S.A.
Piper Don't be hyper!

#7Consumer Comment

Mon, November 12, 2007

You sound like a very smart young lady. What the company had done to you had absolutely nothing to do with what your capabilities were at the job but what it sounds like to me was a jealousy factor. I honestly think that you were making not much less money than your buddy Tammy Berry. You worked your way up very quickly in the company and this really scared her. Maybe she was afraid you might take her job one day. You were basically out numbered by your co-workers since I am sure they all developed a friendship before you even started on the job. I can almost say for sure that she set you up for this from the moment you asked most innocently for those contact lenses that were supposed to be disposed of. As for where the doctor is concerned he/she was probably just trying to do you a favor and when it came down to it put his/her tail between their legs. You also were trying to do a favor for your friend who could not afford contact lenses at the time and you should be proud of yourself for that. Even patients that have contact lenses on back order or you do not have in stock get a supply of trial lenses until their order comes in. This may be the best thing that ever happened to you even though it does not feel like it right now. With your experience you can get a job in any optical store or opthalmologist practice now. When you are asked why you were let go from Wal-Mart be open and honest and let them know your side of the story. As the old saying goes "honesty is the best policy". Then they can make their decision from their. I can guarantee you that you will find something soon. Let them all stay in Wal-Mart as you move on to a bigger and brighter future. By the way I have been in the optical business for the past 23 years and enjoy every minute and have had my ups and downs over the years and it never stopped me. I would not change my career for anything. Except for maybe winning the lottery. Even then I would probably open my own office. I live in New York and make $20 an hour plus 3% commission on every sale. The practice I work for is extremely busy and has been a family owned business for over 40 years. On an average day I make between $3,000-$6,000 in eyeglass sales. That is $90-$180 a day just in commission. I work 50 hours a week. So figure it out. $1,000 a week in salary before taxes. Plus an extra $540-$1,080 a week in commission and that's off the books. Yes I am the only full time sales person there besides 2 part timers but they do not know how much money make. We are a high end Optical store located near New York City. I make more money than the optician. I do work 6 days a week though and get tired sometimes but it is worth it. It pays the bills honey. Just keep working hard at it and always keep smiling.

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