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cranbrook,#2Author of original report
Wed, February 23, 2011
I was very clear in my original post that i had bought the stuff not stole it so as the law is very clear it was my property not theirs...I was also very clear and quite frusterated at people that cannot read, I f'd them off after they assaulted me and unlawfully detained me not to mention tried to place me under arrest for theft that had not occurred.
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cranbrook,#3Author of original report
Thu, January 20, 2011
Hi I tried to update this already but the post never showed. I am trying again. I finally got my days in court. Yes days. After a long gruelling battle to prove my innocence and show that the walmart employees had lied a judge found me not guilty. To all others out there who have travelled down this road as well my heart goes out to you. A video that proved the walmart employees were lying was hand delivered to my house 10 months after the incident. The video showed that the testimony of 4 of 7 witnesses was a lie. Testimony of one of the crown witnesses makes number 5 witness a liar. Of 7 witnesses that the crown had only 1 was honest. The judge however agreed with some of you in saying that a receipt should have been shown. The failure to show the receipt however was not legally required but morally a better choice. In better circumstances I would agree. Now that in no way allows walmart to illegally detain me or to unlawfully arrest me. What walmart is doing is wrong there are many other ways to prevent theft and to name a few how about starting with tills with individual doors you pay and exit immediately, or escorted help with larger items out the door, a membership that customers sign allowing the searches they want, cubicals with automated locks we swipe our payment and door opens releasing product only after payment is verified, or the simplest I can think of and you can thank me for this walmart a camera pointing at the tills and the customer paying that can be viewed by properly trained loss prevention at the door so they will already know the t.v. coming towards them was paid for. Now to sue for the damages, pain and suffering, stress and embarassment as well as a few other things.
noob
Anchorage,#4UPDATE EX-employee responds
Fri, September 17, 2010
I just remembered this chain of incidents that happened at the store I worked at in Auburn, WA. So we were always missing DVD's, back when they were the "in" thing.
We saw a guy in leather riding gear get off the back of a crotch rocket and walk into the store. He strolled in and grabbed a hand basket, he really did look very charming. So okay, just a random guy, no big deal. A few minutes later he comes running from the electronics section, goes past the exit greeter and hops back on the bike that his friend conveniently had waiting outside the door. We were all like "WTF just happened??!?!?!"
My point is there wasn't anything we could do. If he managed to get in the store without anyone noticing we could not chase him, we could only call the police or loss prevention. If he was noticed he ran out before taking anything, but if he got through undetected he was home free. We literally just had to watch him run out the door. Sometimes he was a smart a*s and if he knew there was no one of any authority behind him he would slow his run to a light jog....and smile. He knew his rights and our instruction to just observe.
This happened a good 10 times that we know of, I witnessed about 3 personally.
noob
Anchorage,#5UPDATE EX-employee responds
Fri, September 17, 2010
I am still new to this "rebuttal" thing so here goes.
Coqui85
Connecticut,#6Consumer Comment
Fri, September 17, 2010
first, you should have just showed your receipt. Besides that I thought it was against the law/policy for employees to 'chase' after someone they believe has stolen something? Besides, Walmart is filled with idiots.
coast
USA#7Consumer Comment
Fri, September 17, 2010
You chose to be obnoxious so don't blame others for the consequences of your actions. You make $45000 a month so you'll get over it.
Inspector
Tobyhanna,#8Consumer Comment
Thu, September 16, 2010
At what time were you so poor you could not afford an attorney but you could afford a flat screen TV and wall mount?
This whole story sounds fishy. Get some professional help, you do have problems.
Next time show your receipt. Stop shopping at Walmart! They apparently don't want your business.
Ramjet
Somewhere,#9Consumer Comment
Thu, September 16, 2010
Telling us this story (which may or may not be true), the fact remains that if this ridiculous person had spent roughly 15 to 30 seconds showing the the receipt they would have been on their way. Sure the property is your once you buy it but you need to be able to prove it.
I have no pity for them at all, it was an obnoxious way to act and they were wrong in every way.
I expect the story was imbellished for effect also.
Anonymous
Littleton,#10Consumer Comment
Thu, September 16, 2010
I follow you..to an extent. I agree that what that did was wrong, if the events are as described. But, with the information presented, you will need a lawyer.
You need credibility in order to sue a fortune 500 company. Using the "I'm mentally damaged" tactic ruins credibility.
Using the "I make more than the national average, but can't afford to live" tactic does not work either to build credibility.
I'd say the best bet would be to find a lawyer who will run with your events. Walmart typically uses parking lot cameras as well so the events were most likely documented. Sit there crying and have the lawyer work it in your favor. The use of personally damning key phrases would be harmful such as "Suicidal"... "Lost wife and kids"..."doctors and shrinks." That portrays you as the common denominator rather than Wal-Mart.
But, also discussing an open case on a public forum can also get it thrown out.
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cranbrook,#11Author of original report
Thu, September 16, 2010
For those of you who think it is ok for walmart to act in this manner. I have been to walmart previously and bought a cart full my wife and 2 yr old went to mcdonalds after i paid i went and sat with them and decided to go get our truck and bring it up front as it was -27 degrees celsius outside with blowing snow. My wife finished lunch and was bringing our son in the cart out and got stopped after 15 min of waiting i finally went in to find out what was taking them so long as i stepped through the the door my wife is on the ground crying as they would not let her leave, our son they had taken and would not give him back... oh guess what i had the receipt in my pocket because i had paid...so tell me again how walmart has the right to do this...the difference that time was i had no idea of our rights...what if i had left and gone home in our second vehicle? so those who think we should all just let walmart get away with this stand up please and hand over all your rights because it is you who enables these kinds of unacceptable abuses...Once i have paid it is my property! Any attempt to take my property is THEFT plain and simple so please refrain from comment if you have no idea what you are talking about.
BS
USA#12Consumer Comment
Wed, September 15, 2010
I'm with ramrod. You should have just shown the receipt when asked and everything you went through with walmart and the courts would have been avoided. From what you wrote, you sound like a hardheaded person. You were wrong, admit it and move on. You would be a better person for it. Its destroying your life. You sound like you were doing pretty good prior to this incident so you have the capacity of getting it all back if you just "Let It Go". Think of your family. Whats worse, losing a battle with walmart or losing your family because of it? Get your priorities straight.
BS
USA#13Consumer Comment
Wed, September 15, 2010
I'm with ramrod. You should have just shown the receipt when asked and everything you went through with walmart and the courts would have been avoided. From what you wrote, you sound like a hardheaded person. You were wrong, admit it and move on. You would be a better person for it. Its destroying your life. You sound like you were doing pretty good prior to this incident so you have the capacity of getting it all back if you just "Let It Go". Think of your family. Whats worse, losing a battle with walmart or losing your family because of it? Get your priorities straight.
Ramjet
Somewhere,#14Consumer Comment
Wed, September 15, 2010
All of this crap just because you are a jerk and wouldn't show them your receipt. You are a dangerous idiot. Typical Walmart customer low life attitude.
If this story is even a true representation of what happened.
Bigcraig
Irmo,#15Consumer Suggestion
Wed, September 15, 2010
Why didn't you just show the greeter the receipt?
You were on Walmarts property leaving with there items, this is one of the most shop lifted stores around and they DO have the right to verify you paid, once you told them to F/O you told them something was up and had everything you got coming to you, best hope I am not on the jury as you will lose.
BTW, I hate and usually do not shop W/M but I know there policies and have seen them tackle many shoplifters.