Complaint Review: Advertising Endeavors - Cydcor - Baltimore Maryland

I went through the same sort of thing here in Houston, Texas. I worked for Aurora Marketing Group for Kim Miller. I busted my a*s every day seeing as many doors as possible even in really bad parts of town. I have Depression, but was never allowed to drop a "neg-bomb" in the office. Whenever I learned a new concept, I would go home and type them up (complete with illustrations) on my computer. I still have those. In the seven weeks or so that I was there, I never earned enough to eat lunch on every day (though we were encouraged not to stop and eat lunch because we might miss the decision makers.) I never would have made it if my parents hadn't been helping me out. I saw someone point out once that these have many similarities to a cult. I was fired from there, though I had considered quitting. Today, I'd tell anyone that works for them (and they've had several names since I left there) to take their little American Tourister bag full of Quill catalogs and tell the owner to shove them up her a*s. We've had these people come in to do marketing in my office (I'm now the decision maker on who buys office supplies). I immediately recognize their little speech and I tell them about my experience. I've even told some of them that they should quit. It's interesting to compare. One final thing: when it came time to do my taxes, I got W-2s from every employer I'd had that year except....Aurora Marketing Group. I called the IRS and gave them the information and they weren't able to find them, either. Fortunately, I had the four paycheck stubs that I'd gotten during my employment there. I hope that Cydcor can be exposed for the fraud pyramid scheme that it is.

I went through the same sort of thing here in Houston, Texas. I worked for Aurora Marketing Group for Kim Miller. I busted my a*s every day seeing as many doors as possible even in really bad parts of town. I have Depression, but was never allowed to drop a "neg-bomb" in the office. Whenever I learned a new concept, I would go home and type them up (complete with illustrations) on my computer. I still have those. In the seven weeks or so that I was there, I never earned enough to eat lunch on every day (though we were encouraged not to stop and eat lunch because we might miss the decision makers.) I never would have made it if my parents hadn't been helping me out. I saw someone point out once that these have many similarities to a cult. I was fired from there, though I had considered quitting. Today, I'd tell anyone that works for them (and they've had several names since I left there) to take their little American Tourister bag full of Quill catalogs and tell the owner to shove them up her a*s. We've had these people come in to do marketing in my office (I'm now the decision maker on who buys office supplies). I immediately recognize their little speech and I tell them about my experience. I've even told some of them that they should quit. It's interesting to compare. One final thing: when it came time to do my taxes, I got W-2s from every employer I'd had that year except....Aurora Marketing Group. I called the IRS and gave them the information and they weren't able to find them, either. Fortunately, I had the four paycheck stubs that I'd gotten during my employment there. I hope that Cydcor can be exposed for the fraud pyramid scheme that it is.

I went through the same sort of thing here in Houston, Texas. I worked for Aurora Marketing Group for Kim Miller. I busted my a*s every day seeing as many doors as possible even in really bad parts of town. I have Depression, but was never allowed to drop a "neg-bomb" in the office. Whenever I learned a new concept, I would go home and type them up (complete with illustrations) on my computer. I still have those. In the seven weeks or so that I was there, I never earned enough to eat lunch on every day (though we were encouraged not to stop and eat lunch because we might miss the decision makers.) I never would have made it if my parents hadn't been helping me out. I saw someone point out once that these have many similarities to a cult. I was fired from there, though I had considered quitting. Today, I'd tell anyone that works for them (and they've had several names since I left there) to take their little American Tourister bag full of Quill catalogs and tell the owner to shove them up her a*s. We've had these people come in to do marketing in my office (I'm now the decision maker on who buys office supplies). I immediately recognize their little speech and I tell them about my experience. I've even told some of them that they should quit. It's interesting to compare. One final thing: when it came time to do my taxes, I got W-2s from every employer I'd had that year except....Aurora Marketing Group. I called the IRS and gave them the information and they weren't able to find them, either. Fortunately, I had the four paycheck stubs that I'd gotten during my employment there. I hope that Cydcor can be exposed for the fraud pyramid scheme that it is.

Alexsis and Stephanie, I don't know whether to be really upset at you for spouting lies like that or feel extremely sorry for you. I was in the biz for 7 weeks. My total pay the whole time was a whopping 1,500 dollars at best. Why? Because The sales I DID close somehow were magically denied. I also did not lie to my customers. If I was going to raise their bill, I told them. I laid everything out on the table just like I was taught NOT to do. I also had about 30 applications stolen by high leaders in the field, when I complained I was being a Neg Bomb As for people not sticking it out, I saw 4 people loose houses, families and cars. Why? Those four people were from out of state sucked into this horrible companies pyramid scheme and the promise of $$$. These people did not just go back on rent for a few months, they got their credit ruined. And let me tell you something, these people were well trained highly qualified individuals. These people worked their a**es off! When I hear the phrase they did not try hard enough I want to scream. I heard this in my office everyday because that was about how often someone left. Trust me, if your credit is on the line YOU TRY REALLY HARD! Some did resort to lying to close a deal and they STILL did not make any money. Why? Because Cydcor took it. They told them that someone canceled or they did not fill out the paper work right and kept the money for themselves. One of the big things in our company was actually FORGING initials on the price sheet if someone forgot to sign a spot. Their reasoning for committing a felony? One, they did not want the transaction denied because of paperwork and two, they already closed the deal and actually thought it was okay since the person agreed with the welcome center. Also we checked all the paper work every night when we got back, so we knew what was wrong and what wasn't. Trust me, if the paper work is wrong then you don't get paid, so the paper work was ALWAYS RIGHT, if it weren't, they forged it. So we know right there that paperwork was not the issue. As for the canceling? Funny thing that is. The consumer has to cancel within THREE DAYS. I had ONE person do that in the store. No one will know they got ripped off until they get the bill, so in essence maybe 1 out of 100 people will cancel before they get the bill. That little printout that you get with your commission check is a purely computer generated forgery in my opinion. They will type in Denied and keep your hard earned cash. If you are willing to stay in an environment such as this it does not mean you have the balls to stick it out, it means that you are so sucked into their little game that you don't care. You say you saw the country? Congratulations, you went on one of the most horrible excuses for a business trip that you have ever been on. Let me ask you, how many people were sleeping in your bed with you? For me it was one other complete stranger. Did you get paid for traveling time? I bet you didn't. I'm going out on a limb and saying they made you provide transportation, or you rented a car. Did they reimburse you for wear and tear, gas, anything? I say no. I bet they a) told you to get it from other people traveling with you. Or B) use it as a tax write off. When I went, I was told my gas would be reimbursed, after I over drafted my account 200 dollars because they did not deposit my check on time I called to get the money wired to me from my Oh so wonderful manager, he told me that I was supposed to be getting it from the people riding with me. That was really fun, having to go tell 3 other people they owe me money after they were told that gas was taken care of. REAL business trips consist of paid transportation there and back, if you DO have to use your own car you are reimbursed Gas and then given somewhere around 10 to 30 cents a mile traveled for wear and tear on your car. You get to sleep in your own bed, WITH NO ONE ELSE. Meals may be taken care of and you are paid for time traveled. That is was a legitimate company does. Lets get into pay shall we? When you were hired you were told that you get base plus commission. Base being the min wage for your state! Then your first check comes and you see that you only get the base pay if your commission does not bypass it! But that's okay because your Leader told you your first week you would get 400-700 dollars, when you got to Account manager you would be getting 800-1000 as a leader you would be topping 1,000 most weeks and as assistant manager you would receive 1500 plus, then when you ran your own company you would be in the 6 digit incomes. Since your going to be in all that money, a few bucks really doesn't matter huh? Lets start with the manager, honestly if they were making the income they said they were, would they live with their Assistant Managers (mine did), would they be driving the 12 year old cars (mine did), would they REALLY have such a crappy office that 9 times out of 10 they are sharing with another Cydcor affiliate? I think not. In my office the biggest pay out I saw was 1,300 dollars. Why? Because we saturated the market in New Orleans, and I'm really sorry to say half thee people in out office including the one who made that much took advantage of these poor hurricane victims that were just trying to put their lives together and get a phone put in their Fema trailer. My highest check was for 380 dollars at Account Manager status. If you are a leader you have to go in at 8:30 and most night don't leave till 8. I'm being very generous with the hours, I know of nights that A.M's had to stay till 8:30. Saturdays you did not have to go in till 9am and you left around 7:30. that's SIXTY EIGHT HOURS A WEEK! This is where some of you will say that people that own their own businesses work those hours, get out of fairy land, no they don't! Back to pay. So you work 68 hours a week. BUT! You have to take an hour out for lunch each day. And we ALL KNOW you NEVER take a lunch. So now your down to 63 hours a week. BUT Your manager makes you sign out at 7:30 (this I never understood) So now your only working 60 and a half hours a week. THAT'S 20 HOURS OVERTIME. And let me tell you, Cydcor companies if you do get that minimum wage base pay if you don't get good commission for the week. Do not believe in OVERTIME WAGES. If this were the case, If you made min wage at least you would pull 562.62 before taxes. Not bad if your willing to work crazy hours. THEN you have to take out all the cost associated with your job. The closest store to my office was 2 miles, the farthest, 100. So lets just pretend your car gets GREAT gas mileage and say that you only spend 50 a week in gas. Then lets say that YOU DO get that lunch hour, so about 60 a week in food if your by yourself. But wait, you have a trainee with you and you have to buy their lunch for three days so now your lunch cost just raised to 90 for the week. So far your out 140. Once again, ill humor you and lets just say YOU DO GET OVERTIME. Now your total pay for the week is 422.62. Oh wait, the IRS wants their cut as well lets say 20%, now your pay has dropped to 338.09. Now we can REALLY see what you make an hour. A whopping 5.58 an hour. If you made a 1,000 dollar week then just double it, so your making 11.00 an hour. Honestly, just go get an office job anywhere and you can make that much with PAID benefits. Something Cydcor does NOT offer. Lets also remember, 1,000 dollar weeks are NOT common. For all the people that come here and say it is, all I have to say is, you're the one that is going to have to answer for your conniving ways when the time comes. Lets not forget the paperwork in itself. For 5 weeks our office did not even have PRICE SHEETS for a customer to sign and know what they were getting. It was our WORD that they had to take. Then when we did get price sheets, the taxes were wrong. Honestly, is a person only going to pay 14 dollars in taxes on two phone lines and an internet connection? I think not. We were taught that when a customer questioned the integrity of the price sheet to just tell them there are a few minimal taxes that are not on the form. That is a LIE. We had practice sessions, here is how one would go. You- Well Mr. Smith, it seems I can help you today. Here is what I did, You phone bill is running you about 80 dollars a month and you have no perks what so ever! So what I've done for you is upgraded you to our new pricing you now have unlimited long distances calls Free of charge per minute, lots of extra's like caller ID, I have also included our DSL in your package as well and this is going to cost you about the same as you are paying now, All I need you to do is sign here. Mr. Smith- what is this I'm signing, why does this say 7.99 in taxes? You- Your new pricing system is going to be 45 for your phone line, 25 for your DSL and that 7.99 is the taxes that we can guarantee, there will be a few other minimal charges on your bill for a connection fee for your internet but they are small. Mr. Smith - GREAT! *signs paper* You- One last thing Mr. Smith. The modem for your computer will be 75.00 but don't worry you will receive a 100.00 Gift certificate by mail courtesy of Bellsouth and Cingular. Also now Mr. Smith You are eligible for a 10.00 discount off your Cingular Cell phone bill, its just a little thank you from us for using our services. Mr. Smith. Really, oh thank you so much. You have a nice day. The real story. Mr. smith thinks his bill will now be around 90 dollars. He's getting a TON of extras and internet to boot, great huh? NO! Mr. Smith most likely will not receive his gift certificate, and his bill will most likely cost him around 130 dollars a month because in fact there are A LOT of other taxes, they are just not on the sheet he signed. We were told by Cydcor that Cingular is offering 10.00 off the bill when they get the highest plan with Bellsouth. Actually, Cingular only offers 5 dollars off. (I called myself to set a customer up with the deal) We were told since we have received no Official word from Cingular to continue telling customers that there will be a 10 dollar discount. LIE. Cydcor is not a scam I love this statement. Just refer a few paragraphs above and there is your proof. Managers condone forging a customers signature. The biggest thing is they are committing fraud. Both on the internet (any ad I've seen says base and commission pay TOGETHER) No paid over time, no paid vacation, horrible business trips. You are almost always told that you make your own schedule, that is until you get sucked in. You are told that they will cover part of your health insurance. They don't. They say they will cover business expenses. They don't. Legitimate companies do not FORCE you to go to office meetings about 3 times a week. If a REAL company does have meetings after work 9 times our of 10 your meal is paid for. This is not the case with Cydcor and its affiliates. Legitimate companies let you take time off from work when you have an emergency. My father is a 3 times a week dialysis patient, (his kidneys are non functional) I am his legal guardian and power of attorney since he cannot read the medical paper work very well. There are times that I have to leave work because he has an issue with the artificial vein in his arm and it has to be cleaned out, this is an EMERGENCY SURGERY if he does not complete his issued 4 hours for the day he gets extremely ill. I have to take him to the hospital to get it fixed, I have to fill out paper work, wait on him to get out, and drive him home, this becomes an all day affair. I also have to take him to a hospital in Gainesville 4 or 5 times a year, once again, I have to take off all day. Before I got hired I laid this on the table to my manager and he told me it was fine. When it came time to take my dad to these medical procedures, I was told I was throwing away the job of a lifetime, and that my priorities were not straight. MY FAIMLY is my priority. Legitimate companies NEVER put me down for taking care of my father, I am usually praised for being such a dedicated daughter. Legitimate companies have paid time off. Cydcor does not. A legitimate company encourages you to spend time with family. My old job even offered free counseling to employees and the immediate families. Cydcor looks down on you having any other kind of life outside of the office. Legitimate companies let you take a lunch break. Our motto at the end of the day? FIRST ONE HOME FIRST ONE TO EAT! They lie to you and lie some more and then once your hired you get so brainwashed into thinking that your making so much money that you just throw away all your ethics and your integrity and just go with it. If this is not a scam I do not know what one is. I will agree Cydcor taught me a few things. I used to be timid and afraid to ask for what I wanted, but after dealing with these scumbags I realized if you do not stand up for yourself you will become a doormat. I am not willing to become a doormat. It also taught me how to take no for an answer. It also taught me how to hold an intelligent proactive conversation. Account Manager in Sales does look good on a resume. I just wish that I did not have to go through all the bullcrap to get to this point in my life. Cydcor and its affiliates are nothing but con artists hiding behind the prestigious Fortune 500 title. If you can not see this for yourself then you are officially brainwashed It is not only the pay here, it is the whole integrity of the company as a whole. I do wish the best for anyone in the biz. Just because they sweet talked you into the game doesn't mean you deserve to loose everything you own because of it. Regards, P.s - I forwarded my story and many other to all the job finding websites and any place I see Cydcor offering jobs. I picked apart their whole ad mainly focusing on pay and the actual job description. Nothing happened. They are still out there. I am looking to go higher in the future, I want these people and these companies shut down.

In an attempt to be objective, I would say the best way to tell if this is a company is the "real deal" would be to ask to see their financials. Does this company offer it's employees to view open-book financial statements? Where does this company make profit - Is it actually in sales or is it in recruitment? I encourage all who defend these companies to ask their "leader" if they can see the companies financial statements. Then you will have your answer... unless of course they forge the books, but I guess at that point you will be so far in the lies and the denial that you will believe anything.

In an attempt to be objective, I would say the best way to tell if this is a company is the "real deal" would be to ask to see their financials. Does this company offer it's employees to view open-book financial statements? Where does this company make profit - Is it actually in sales or is it in recruitment? I encourage all who defend these companies to ask their "leader" if they can see the companies financial statements. Then you will have your answer... unless of course they forge the books, but I guess at that point you will be so far in the lies and the denial that you will believe anything.

In an attempt to be objective, I would say the best way to tell if this is a company is the "real deal" would be to ask to see their financials. Does this company offer it's employees to view open-book financial statements? Where does this company make profit - Is it actually in sales or is it in recruitment? I encourage all who defend these companies to ask their "leader" if they can see the companies financial statements. Then you will have your answer... unless of course they forge the books, but I guess at that point you will be so far in the lies and the denial that you will believe anything.

In an attempt to be objective, I would say the best way to tell if this is a company is the "real deal" would be to ask to see their financials. Does this company offer it's employees to view open-book financial statements? Where does this company make profit - Is it actually in sales or is it in recruitment? I encourage all who defend these companies to ask their "leader" if they can see the companies financial statements. Then you will have your answer... unless of course they forge the books, but I guess at that point you will be so far in the lies and the denial that you will believe anything.

This message is for all of you out there who are defending Advertising Endeavors. Alex, and those of you out there like him. I am taking FULL accountability for my horrible descision to take a 100% commission door to door scam...uhhh.... I mean.... sales job. The reason that I am posting on this site is not to try to make people feel bad for me because I made a bad decision or because I was stupid enough to be manipulated by Danata and her band of clones. The reason I am posting on this site is to try to warn other so they don't make the same mistakes that I did. Don't be fooled. I am even willing to accept that it is POSSIBLE that when this whole pyrimid began with Avie, Gary, etc back in the day it wasn't meant to hurt anyone. Hell, they were just businessmen out to make a profit and how do you do that? You step all over people on your climb to the top. But don't you DARE pretend to have integrity and ethics. Those are two things this company knows NOTHING about. The thing is, it is 2006 now guys (hey guys) and we are on to you. Maybe when this all began the money hungry kids were eager to bust their a*s to make some menial amount of money all the while with pipe dreams and stars in their eyes and hopes of bigger and better. YOU DON"T HAVE TO GO THAT ROUTE ANYMORE PEOPLE! This isn't 1980/Reagan economy days anymore. The unemployment line isn't full of college grads anymore. It isn't hard to get a real job people and AE isn't it! I just don't want to see all of you young,ambitious college grads chasing a dream that will never come true. This job might not ruin your life or anything dramatic like that, but it will waste your time, kill your spirit, and drain your bank account. So unless you have thousands to throw away and are bored enough to waste a few years that you'll never get back and into public humilitation (hey...some people get off on that stuff) then this isn't the place for you. Be careful. A lot of people out there are just trying to take advantage of trusting people. Don't be a statistic.

This message is for all of you out there who are defending Advertising Endeavors. Alex, and those of you out there like him. I am taking FULL accountability for my horrible descision to take a 100% commission door to door scam...uhhh.... I mean.... sales job. The reason that I am posting on this site is not to try to make people feel bad for me because I made a bad decision or because I was stupid enough to be manipulated by Danata and her band of clones. The reason I am posting on this site is to try to warn other so they don't make the same mistakes that I did. Don't be fooled. I am even willing to accept that it is POSSIBLE that when this whole pyrimid began with Avie, Gary, etc back in the day it wasn't meant to hurt anyone. Hell, they were just businessmen out to make a profit and how do you do that? You step all over people on your climb to the top. But don't you DARE pretend to have integrity and ethics. Those are two things this company knows NOTHING about. The thing is, it is 2006 now guys (hey guys) and we are on to you. Maybe when this all began the money hungry kids were eager to bust their a*s to make some menial amount of money all the while with pipe dreams and stars in their eyes and hopes of bigger and better. YOU DON"T HAVE TO GO THAT ROUTE ANYMORE PEOPLE! This isn't 1980/Reagan economy days anymore. The unemployment line isn't full of college grads anymore. It isn't hard to get a real job people and AE isn't it! I just don't want to see all of you young,ambitious college grads chasing a dream that will never come true. This job might not ruin your life or anything dramatic like that, but it will waste your time, kill your spirit, and drain your bank account. So unless you have thousands to throw away and are bored enough to waste a few years that you'll never get back and into public humilitation (hey...some people get off on that stuff) then this isn't the place for you. Be careful. A lot of people out there are just trying to take advantage of trusting people. Don't be a statistic.

This message is for all of you out there who are defending Advertising Endeavors. Alex, and those of you out there like him. I am taking FULL accountability for my horrible descision to take a 100% commission door to door scam...uhhh.... I mean.... sales job. The reason that I am posting on this site is not to try to make people feel bad for me because I made a bad decision or because I was stupid enough to be manipulated by Danata and her band of clones. The reason I am posting on this site is to try to warn other so they don't make the same mistakes that I did. Don't be fooled. I am even willing to accept that it is POSSIBLE that when this whole pyrimid began with Avie, Gary, etc back in the day it wasn't meant to hurt anyone. Hell, they were just businessmen out to make a profit and how do you do that? You step all over people on your climb to the top. But don't you DARE pretend to have integrity and ethics. Those are two things this company knows NOTHING about. The thing is, it is 2006 now guys (hey guys) and we are on to you. Maybe when this all began the money hungry kids were eager to bust their a*s to make some menial amount of money all the while with pipe dreams and stars in their eyes and hopes of bigger and better. YOU DON"T HAVE TO GO THAT ROUTE ANYMORE PEOPLE! This isn't 1980/Reagan economy days anymore. The unemployment line isn't full of college grads anymore. It isn't hard to get a real job people and AE isn't it! I just don't want to see all of you young,ambitious college grads chasing a dream that will never come true. This job might not ruin your life or anything dramatic like that, but it will waste your time, kill your spirit, and drain your bank account. So unless you have thousands to throw away and are bored enough to waste a few years that you'll never get back and into public humilitation (hey...some people get off on that stuff) then this isn't the place for you. Be careful. A lot of people out there are just trying to take advantage of trusting people. Don't be a statistic.

This message is for all of you out there who are defending Advertising Endeavors. Alex, and those of you out there like him. I am taking FULL accountability for my horrible descision to take a 100% commission door to door scam...uhhh.... I mean.... sales job. The reason that I am posting on this site is not to try to make people feel bad for me because I made a bad decision or because I was stupid enough to be manipulated by Danata and her band of clones. The reason I am posting on this site is to try to warn other so they don't make the same mistakes that I did. Don't be fooled. I am even willing to accept that it is POSSIBLE that when this whole pyrimid began with Avie, Gary, etc back in the day it wasn't meant to hurt anyone. Hell, they were just businessmen out to make a profit and how do you do that? You step all over people on your climb to the top. But don't you DARE pretend to have integrity and ethics. Those are two things this company knows NOTHING about. The thing is, it is 2006 now guys (hey guys) and we are on to you. Maybe when this all began the money hungry kids were eager to bust their a*s to make some menial amount of money all the while with pipe dreams and stars in their eyes and hopes of bigger and better. YOU DON"T HAVE TO GO THAT ROUTE ANYMORE PEOPLE! This isn't 1980/Reagan economy days anymore. The unemployment line isn't full of college grads anymore. It isn't hard to get a real job people and AE isn't it! I just don't want to see all of you young,ambitious college grads chasing a dream that will never come true. This job might not ruin your life or anything dramatic like that, but it will waste your time, kill your spirit, and drain your bank account. So unless you have thousands to throw away and are bored enough to waste a few years that you'll never get back and into public humilitation (hey...some people get off on that stuff) then this isn't the place for you. Be careful. A lot of people out there are just trying to take advantage of trusting people. Don't be a statistic.

So "ALEX" (aka Danata, Cydcor Scam Artist Scum Of the Earth) While I am completely able to understand why you feel the need to defend your pathetic sad little company to the world, afterall, you HAVE sacrificed EVERYTHING personally and professionally for this joke job, I am still unable to rationalize how you are able to be so blind (not blonde, but blind) I mean, come ON! You Cydcor freaks are forever PREACHING about the coperate world and how horrible those people have it with their 9-5 jobs and their salaries. I can't figure out what is so bad abot working an 8 hour day and getting a REAL JOB paycheck, not being humiliated to tell people what you do for a living, not having to give up all of your friends and time with loved ones for a lousy job that is a complete JOKE. I would CRY if I had all of these things written about me on the internet. Honestly Danata, I feel sorry for you. You poor lost little girl. Where are the people who care enough about you to get you the hell out of this brainwashing cult job? Do they exist? Have you pushed them away and alienated them as well? Even if the only thing in life that matters to you is making money, cydcor is not the job for you. Most of the people who work for them don't make enough to even support themselves, so forget about having a savings. I spent mine in the short amount of time I wasted there. Any company that has this many things written about it can't be a good one. It isn't like one disgruntled ex-employee talked some s**t... there are hundreds of us. If you were going to buy a house and read things like this about the builder, would you still buy the house? You'd be foolish if you did. Cydcor is a house that is about to fall down any day now. It is only a matter of time. The turn over is too high. Their ability to multiply, which at one was an assit, is going to bring their timely demise. Eventually, and God willing sooner rather than later, enough people out there will have been taken advantage of and we can stand together to bring this horrible excuse for a company to its knees.

I want to say that I have held many positions and gone on several interviews. I didn't ever feel that this interview process was deceiving or misleading on behalf of the guy I was following. He actually had a great attitude and I could see that he was motivated to move ahead. The difference is that he started in the company for a manager that was no longer there. The way the company was described, I had no real doubt that the structure would work. There are many other companies that have a very similar program for management. The problems started when there were conflicts from what he had told me, (as far as training pay) and what Danata said. This guy RECIEVED payment for training, I was just told I would but never did. He was told before hand if an account had been cancelled, I was told after my check didn't match up to my sales. Now I realize that if I had stuck with it, I would have had a chance to run a company and I think I may have been good. It is just that I would never allow myself to be stolen from and then turn around and say "thank you for this opp". I think after reading the rebutals here, there are people who need to learn more about the business world in general. I know there are people out there that just feel plain cheated too. Bad business is bad business. Stealing is not right but CEO and high execs do it all the time. Maybe people like Danata are picking the wrong role models. Danata will learn and in time to be better or; be taken to court. However, I am done caring what happens. I hope people stay ambitious and honest and we will all be better off in the end.

Alex, the title of your rip off report looks an awful lot like you are telling us ex employees out there to "stop winning". Well, I am sorry, I just can't do that. See your pompous, arrogant posting has seemingly danced around the fact that we are not motivated? Oh, poor, poor Alex. You see honey, we were motivated. Motivated to take our lives back and begin to live again. Motivated enough to go out there and make what I will bet is yearly 1,000 times what your tired butt is pulling in. I happen to be the CEO of a financial institution. Yes. That's right. Corporate America, baby. Where you get off assuming that these people who post their perspectives on here are unsuccessful, I do not know. You see, Alex, they have much more right to talk about your job. They have done it. They have walked miles in YOUR shoes. You have not yet walked in theirs. It is saddening to me, that you tell people to cease whining, when you seem to be hypocritical in whining yourself. Thay is also correct, Mr. Intelligent, Business Brilliant Alex. Whining is spelled with an "h." Seems to me everything is beginning to make sense now as to why you are a door to door salesman. I do admire your work ethic. I do admire your loyalty. They are admirable qualities. I think your ability to see the "big picture" is extremely under-developed. As for taking accountability. Those who speak their minds are taking their own accountability for their experiences by making sure that they know that they have done what they could to prevent another person from the possibility of experiencing the same pain. I take my own accountability for the same. I chose to work there. I chose to leave. Reguardless of my own personal financial successes, I do not even begin to assume that other's lives are not as fulfilled as mine just because I now make a lot of money. People are rich in many ways, my friend. You have no right to assume others failures or successes, and I think that your last posting is a true testament of your immaturity, and insensitive nature. I would be willing to bet that most customers see right through you. Also, on the subject of accountability, since you seem to really enjoy preaching it, I believe that companies have to take accountability for making sure their answers are clear. It is a measure of the integrity of a company when they like to dance around job resposibilities. Maybe you can begin to practice what you preach by being open and honest about the difficulties that are involved. Maybe on the 1st interview, you could tell people that while there are opportunities; there is also a VERY BIG chance that your children may not be supported the way that they could have been, had daddy taken a different job. I believe that you all owe people that much before you preach integrity. You need to put a sock in it. Just like you said about people who do not want to work there, aren't wanted there anyway. Well, if you don't like or can't handle our "wining" then you should not read this. No organization that is part of the BBB should be this unwilling to take accountability for it's mistakes. You are new starter businesses, right? Is it not possible you make mistakes? I sure hope you don't end up in jail. You won't have the money to bail yourself out. There is more to life than monetary happiness. Grow up. Heres a message from corporate America: Get yourself a nice haircut, and get a real job.

Ok... so I'm going to keep this short and simple... I've read a lot about "the company makes you do this.." or "the company makes you do that.." or "the Co. keeps you around.." The fact is that one of the priciples that the so-called "cult" environment fosters is that of PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY...the fact that NO ONE CAN MAKE YOU DO ANYTHING...and that the way things affect you ultimately is a choice that YOU make and that YOU have control of...for example..if you're not sure about the $$ breakdown..ASK SOMEONE...if it's not clear...make sure you ask the right questions till you get a clear answer... if you don't like going business to business selling whatever...then don't take the job...and if you don't like it after you start then just leave...it's that simple...no one is keeping you there and the reality is that if you suck or if you're attitude twds the program sucks we don't want you there...guess what,the manager at McDonalds (or any other place of business) would tell you the same thing... In the end you make the choice...and if you're too stupid or lack the insite to find what's right for you..or to even get the answers that you need then maybe YUO're the ones with the problem and not the company... It is what it is...so is any other job...but you're looking to be controlled or manipulated Andvertising Endeavors is not the place for you try going into corp. america or just get yourself arrested and make room for people who have a clue about what they want

It is not so much the "atmosphere" or the idea even that can make you want to puke. It is the fake up beat Bubbled Blonde that makes the office a complete joke. Such inspiring lies that allow her to talk to people like they are inferior. Who really cares that you played soccer in Spain and what it taught you of discipline. Girls soccer in spain is under developed, it takes no skill to look good there! Just had to get that off my chest. The whole bonus/training pay is just a lie as well. There is no bonus until you make your sales and collect your comission. Fine but telling people that training is paid is not right unless you are going to pay them for training, not for getting into leadership. Integrity and work ethic is all we hear about day in and day out but at the end of the day, Danata runs a bad business with no integrity. The work ethic is due to the fact that she has no true friends and nothing better to do! I wouldn't want to learn from her another day. It has taken me a while to get over questioning if I had an "opportunity" or not with the "happy never negging out" but secretly depressed and miserable Danata. I guess i'll just continue praying for her that she live a healthier more honest life. What else can I do?

Jessica, you are right. Let me tell you a bit about Marketing Sessions, formerly of Cherry Hill, New Jersey, now located in Illinois. First of all, benefits. I was told there were benefits offered. It was the first question I asked. What it turned out to be was one of those MLM "benefits" plan which give you discounts on doctors visits, if your doctor is somehow part of the plan. Here's the thing, for each person signing up, Sessions made commission. I ran into the guy that was selling the "benefits" a few months later and he tried to get me involved in selling the "benefits." It was by no means a benefits plan. We were all lied to, that's what this company does. The funny part, the actual sales aspect of this job is great for a recent college grad to get his or her feet wet. Getting used to hearing "No" all the time is actually good for you. Plus the hard work involved. The problem is, when the company overtakes your life and tells you to quit school, ignore your friends and family, work 15 hours per day for $50, etc, etc and makes promises that are unrealistic. I was involved in the New Power campaign, which was "we'll change your gas service for you to save you some money" so I didn't sell pencils, stuffed animals, etc. I actually thought I was doing a good thing for people, but looking back, I have my doubts. I'm sure it was shady like everything else about this company. I could go on and on about how ridiculous this company was. I enjoyed being screamed at because as a group, we didn't sell enough the previous day. When you are in an all commission job, you either sell or you starve. There is no need to be yelled at by the manager (and I mean yelled at). Hey, I bought into the chanting, bell ringing and such, but only for a short while. Then I started seeing the little girls running to King Sessions to tell him someone said something negative, I saw that instead of bonuses for having a good day, you had the priviledge of putting a shaving cream pie in someone's face (in other words, no cash out of Sessions' pocket despite the fact he's making $250,000 per year and all the other crap I dealt with. In conclusion, I started to think about his $10,000 per week pay checks. Now he is a big timer in the company and I believe he makes decent coin. But he leads you to believe that $10,000 is his salary. My OPINION is (and maybe smoeone can verify this) the $10,000 pays all of his bills, the employees' salary, and all other expenses. I'm sure he makes a decent living, but he's probably one of the few. Last but not least, did I mention that Michael Sessions is a ****** ******* *** ** * ***** who I hope gets run over by a juice truck????

Hey Lee, just wanted to clear up quickly about your commission issue. I can't speak for every poor unfortunate who was sucked into the cydcor HELL, but I CAN speak for myself and I can interpret what I have read from many others on this site. I don't necessarily think that these people are all "negged out" and pissed the F*CK off about the commission. You are absolutely right, and as much as I HATE to admit it, a lot of these Cydcor Cult leaders said it too, a lot of good jobs work on 100% commission. A lot of really good sales jobs, doctors, lawyers, real estate agents etc. But I think that you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned that your current job also has all of those wonderful things that ANY reputable, decent, non-deceitful, legitimate company provides. Things like benefits, compensation for expenses, retirement plan, etc. However, I believe that what most of us are really upset about, perhaps yourself included, is NOT the 100% commission, but the simple fact that we were lied to on the interview, and for some of us time and time agan after the interview. I for one was told that I was going to get benefits after 90 days and of course, like everything else they promised, that never happened. I was also not told about the 100% commission until AFTER I had accepted the position and worked there for over a WEEK! The entire time my leader kept telling me that I was getting paid for training (LIE)the job was "performance based" so I would get RAISES periodically based on my performance, which I guess is true... the more you sell for them the more I make... and ha ha funny enough, the more they make. Turns out the manager makes as much as the rep on every sale while they lounge around the cozy office all day while these poor kids are out going door to door in the rain and cold. Sounds fair, huh? So in conclusion, I would like to clear the record and say that I would not be upset at all about the pay structure if I had never been manipulated and lied to day in and day out. Also, keep in mind Lee that the commission you make isn't 28% of the sale of a lousy box of pencils which is what I was selling for Advertising Endeavors. Congratulations on getting out. At the very least this experience has taught us all about hos deceitful people can be and what to avoid at all cost!

I worked for Marketing Sessions for 2 months, Michael Sessions is a c*** s***** and a serious m***** f***** etc etc. The company is a crock of hooey (did I spell that right?) and a total joke. But the problem with this argument is, everyone is concentrating on how they pay 100% commission. Who cares??? I work for a decent company at 100% commission and do well. But I get benefits, 401K, can take a day off without being intimidated and threatenend, and can make unlimited amounts of money. I can make $2000 or more if I have a good week. Can you do that with Cydcor? Nope. I don't work 17 hours per day. I have had a few of those, but that's a rarity. This company is such complete and total garbage, and this is why: It is truly a cult. They keep you tired, broke and hungry. They tell you what to do and say, who you can and can't talk to. I was promised $100 per day for my first 2 days. I got nothing. I was told no chargebacks then when I picked up my last check, I was charged back. Michael Sessions is a piece of **** and I hope he gets runover by a juice truck. They lie, lie, lie to you. I can't believe I was over 30 when I worked for this garbage company. And don't forget they encourage spying on each other and telling the big boss. Did I say that Michael Sessions is a f****** j****** who I hope dies of some rare disease???

Oh! Hmmm.....no response back as to why you are behind a computer and not in the field, huh? Itegrity...they say they have it! I tend not to trust someone who brags that they have so much integrity. Truthful people don't wear their integrity on their sleeve. (Yawn) Can't wait to hear more about your training tactics. Go fool your new people, you can't fool us. Oh yeah, and you are right......most people in sales do work on some commission. BUT, most people in sales do not work on 100% commission. They tend to have a base salary, health benefits, vacation time....does Donata give you health benefits? Oh yeah, and to you readers out there, Leaders are taught not to tell people on interviews that they work on 100% commission. Leaders are taught to "Spin Doctor" questions like that and spin it back into the "opportunity." To the dads out there, it must be very hard. I know you must feel insulted somewhat by your daughter's lack of time for anything but selling things. Just tell her to "Keep Pushing!" Oh, and if you get in trouble for soliciting while walking door to door with your bag of goodies, make sure you tell them just who sent you.....Donate. PS. It isnt always safe to just walk right into strange offices....I know just why your dad is worried.....some of the creepy men I have come in contact with while trying to make sales were pretty rough around the edges.

Look, obviously, there are some huge glitches in your "story" or more aptly put, "attempt to beautify the Cydcor business." While your energy and strong belief in the company seems admirable, most people have and or will see that every person who has walked in your shoes felt that same way at one time. Tell, me........how does the office make you feel if you call out sick? Why is is that you do not have sick days? Do you realize that even well after you do/if you do become a manager you will not be able to enjoy your time off? Do you realize that there are more managers of Cydcor companies that do not make a lot of money than those who do? Now, lets talk a little bit about this drive of yours. I would love to see if you still have the same drive in a year. Tell me also.....how do your shoes look? Your feet? I'd be willing to bet that they look bruised, battered, blistered, and scuffed from countless 17 hour days of hitting the pavement. Do you realize that all you are is a door to door salesman? Lets also discuss the safety of your job. How safe is it to be walking the streets dressed in a business suit, alone, with nothing but a black and white street map glued on to a manilla folder. I also love the fact that you people make it seem as if people may say no more than yes. Well, most people in daily life hear no more than yes. You must think you are a cut above every other hard working citizen out there because you can "persevere" through "no's." Ah, you are so tough. You keep walking girl. I also want to point out to you that since you assumed so smugly that people writing about "management" are or were never in management of a company. Well, yes, I am in management within a company. Most successful people in this world aren't successful because of Cydcor. Cydcor is not the end all be all of life, and I feel sorry for you that you seem to think right now that it is. So you keep on "standing up" and get yourself some pats on the back from the people in your crappy office with Goodwill furniture. I assure you, they may pat your back, but as soon as you slip they won't be there to catch you when you fall. I do wish you the best of luck. I think you'll need it. Oh, I almost forgot......I wanted to see how you would describe a business trip? Is it all expenses paid? Where do you stay? I know I was so generously given a sleeping bag in a basement of a buggy place. Stay Juicey

Look, obviously, there are some huge glitches in your "story" or more aptly put, "attempt to beautify the Cydcor business." While your energy and strong belief in the company seems admirable, most people have and or will see that every person who has walked in your shoes felt that same way at one time. Tell, me........how does the office make you feel if you call out sick? Why is is that you do not have sick days? Do you realize that even well after you do/if you do become a manager you will not be able to enjoy your time off? Do you realize that there are more managers of Cydcor companies that do not make a lot of money than those who do? Now, lets talk a little bit about this drive of yours. I would love to see if you still have the same drive in a year. Tell me also.....how do your shoes look? Your feet? I'd be willing to bet that they look bruised, battered, blistered, and scuffed from countless 17 hour days of hitting the pavement. Do you realize that all you are is a door to door salesman? Lets also discuss the safety of your job. How safe is it to be walking the streets dressed in a business suit, alone, with nothing but a black and white street map glued on to a manilla folder. I also love the fact that you people make it seem as if people may say no more than yes. Well, most people in daily life hear no more than yes. You must think you are a cut above every other hard working citizen out there because you can "persevere" through "no's." Ah, you are so tough. You keep walking girl. I also want to point out to you that since you assumed so smugly that people writing about "management" are or were never in management of a company. Well, yes, I am in management within a company. Most successful people in this world aren't successful because of Cydcor. Cydcor is not the end all be all of life, and I feel sorry for you that you seem to think right now that it is. So you keep on "standing up" and get yourself some pats on the back from the people in your crappy office with Goodwill furniture. I assure you, they may pat your back, but as soon as you slip they won't be there to catch you when you fall. I do wish you the best of luck. I think you'll need it. Oh, I almost forgot......I wanted to see how you would describe a business trip? Is it all expenses paid? Where do you stay? I know I was so generously given a sleeping bag in a basement of a buggy place. Stay Juicey

So Alexis, while I agree that you are in fact entitled to your opinion, hasn't it occured to you that your credibility is questioned when you LIE! Okay Ms. Integrity, how is it that you are on the internet at 8:30 in the morning when you SAY that you work at AE meaning that you should be in the daily pump up propaganda session? Hmmm... is it possible that you aren't who you say you are?

Look Alexis, it isn't your fault that you too have been manipulated by these cydcor proplr. I also fell victim and I was in the business much longer than five months. I also was the "juicy stud" who was destine for all the success that running a cydcor branch can bring. I feel sorry for you. I know that you truely believe that within a year you will be a danata clone, but I challenge you to come back to this website a year from now and I would bet money that you will be humiliated. This business does little more than break the spirits of young ambitious people. And by the way, don't you think that preaching the teachings of "How To Win Friend's and Influence People" sounds a lot like "How to Get People to stop thinking for themselves and do what you want them to"? Alexis, if you really can live with yourself after destroying people's lives and their trust in human nature, go for it. Alexis's Dad- Please, for everyone's sake, get her out of this. Every day that goes by she is one step further away from you. These people are teaching her to isolate herself from the people who care about her. They tell her that you are from a generation that doesn't have an entrepreneural mindset and that you are from a generation of employees, not employeers and that you are just trying to neg her out. Ask her how those 15 hour days feel and how she likes filling up her gas tank every other day and buying lunches for strangers who never show up for the job again. Ask her how much she gets paid for all thise days she has off for Christmas. Ask her how many sick days she gets a year. I know how you feel. my dad was also concerned and like Alexis, I defended the business to everyone who would listen. And here I am now, trying my hardest to keep others from falling into this trap. Think to yourself, if it wasn't that bad, why would all these people be putting so much effort into stopping them? don't let it become too late. I can only hope that she gets out before they have her uprooted and moved across the country. Also, look up cydcor on this site and see how many others there are like us out there. It is startling and sickening.

I'm so glad to see your comments posted on this site. I've read some of the things on here before and always thought about replying. I've been working with a Cydcor office for the past 4 months and am very close to Asst. Mgmt. I can honestly say to anyone who is reading these posts that it has been the most challenging and rewarding experience of my life. Sales in general are challenging, that is why sales people make so much money. Companies are willing to pay an individual well to increase their market share, but not everyone is capable of doing it well. In any sales company you have individuals who make beaucoup bucks, and those who can barely pay their bills. It's totally based off of how hard they work and some natural ability and technique. A big part of their success is also due to how well they can handle rejection. Anyone, in any type of sales understands that they will probably hear 30 no's before they get a yes, but not everyone is capable of keeping a good attitude and blowing it over their shoulder. This does not make an individual a bad person, but it does make it difficult for them to be successful in the sales field, whether with a Cydcor ICL or not. Another thing I'd like to point out is that one of the biggest gripes on this site is that we work on commission. Most sales people work on commission. Insurance, Mortgage, Real Estate, Stockbrokers all work on commission. It's nothing new. Ask some people who work in Sears or Nordstrom, many of them work on commission. Again, this has worked out great for me, I average $1000.00 per week, but I work extremely hard and can handle the rejection. Now I know that someone will inevitably write back that if I average the hours that I spend working per day it doesn't equal that much per hour, and if I was in this just to do sales for the rest of my life, I might see your point, but I'm in this to run a market. I've been to other markets, met other people in the business, and I see the wealth that they have. They are also some of the most ethical, caring and honest people that I've met. Hard working? Yes. Motivated? Definately. People that I admire and aspire to be like? Absolutely. I understand that some of the people have had bad experiences, or at least believe that they have, but my manager has become a friend and a life coach for me. I truly believe that he has my best interests in mind. He has taught me how to do it, but what it really comes down to is how bad I want it. He is clear with all of us that not everyone in the office will cut it, but we do have the chance to do so. It's up to us. I have many friends who were at one point working for the company, and who have nothing but good things to say when they leave. Most tell me that they would not have been offered their current position without the experience and confidence developed from it. They are not bitter. They still understand the opportunity, but just were not willing to put in the effort any longer. I encourage these individuals as well as any people who are still employed and are reading all of these negative posts to write their views. It's obviously not that there are not thousands of people who love this business and know that it's run ethically. I know that many do not see this site, and those that do choose to ignore it. Well why don't we speak out? If you truly believe in the opportunity and know that it has positively impacted your life, then let's show it. There are always 2 sides to every story and all that I see on here is the negative side. Let's speak out! It's time!!

My dad was at work perusing the Internet, and happened to come across this information about AE, and since I work here, he was concerned. This is totally understandable, and if I agreed with what everyone was saying, I would be out of here. But I don't agree. Well, there are a couple things that ring true Obviously, becoming a manager is not for everyone. And no, this position isn't something everyone can do. There are long hours, and the training is geared towards management-minded people. Ask any manager if their job is a cakewalk. You have to prove yourself to reach that position. It takes a lot of inner motivation, perseverance, and yes even taking a pay cut every now and then. However, I have also witnessed the good that comes of this. I have had the opportunity to travel the country and see how other businesses are ran, met thousands of other motivated, young professionals like myself, and have witnessed success. I KNOW I can be successful at this business. If you believe in yourself, you can do anything. There is a ton of opportunity in this company, but unfortunately some people judge it before really understanding why we do what we do. It's not a SCAM. These are legit business practices. To reach a higher status with any marketing position, you must start out in sales. No, this isn't the glitz and glamour of marketing, but it teaches you how to interact with customers and improve your communication skills. There is extensive training that goes on throughout this position and the training is NOT BRAINWASHING. We're being taught every day business practices. Have you worked in other businesses? Do you have meetings where the manager is trying to teach good work ethic as well as proper etiquette in how to perform your job effectively? That's exactly what happens here. And it's not manipulation. Many of the skills taught can be applied to real life experiences. These tricks come right from very successful men such as Dale Carnegie. Our manager buys us books to read to improve our business skills as well as our life skills. The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, by Stephen Covey, is the #1 national bestseller, and Donata has willingly bought all of us a copy. If you stick around long enough, you get hands on experience of how a business is actually run and also get the opportunity to run one yourself within a year, if you apply the skills you are taught. Of course this opportunity is only for those that can persevere, can handle the ups and downs, and understands that EVERY business has its pros and cons. It saddens me to see that just because a few people have had bad experiences, they have to taint the reputation of this business. And I'm positive that if these issues were addressed to Donata, she would have done all she could to help out ANYONE and if someone felt unfairly treated, she would remedy that. Donata has a great deal of integrity, a strong work ethic, and is a phenomenal manager whom I can only aspire to be half as good as. I have learned the most in the last five months than I have in the last five years working in the business field. And so Dad, and anyone else that thinks this is a scam, remember you are getting a biased viewpoint. Granted, not everyone will make it. But with your encouragement and knowing you'll be there for me through the good and the bad, I will persevere. I've seen it happen, and I have the confidence that I will succeed.

Thanks Alberta for clearing that up for me. AE was my first job out of college so obviously my first sales job. I always considered myself to be a fairly intelligent individual and I feel so naive and foolish because I fell for this. I can't believe that I let these people continue to lie to me and take my hard earned money and convince me to keep going and going. I have been "out of the business" for a few months now and I am just starting to put the pieces of my life back together. I am not interested in any further contact with danata, rick, or this shady company. Not even the money they owe me is worth that nightmare. I wish you the best of luck in everything that you do. I am thankful that there are people out there who are willing to fight for what they believe is right and inform others of their rights too. God willing, some day some how these awful people will be out of business!

Jessica, I was there for more than 4 weeks (5 weeks). I made it past the requirements in three weeks for the $200.00 bonus. According to the paperwork they owe me $200.00. I will address this issue with a lawyer later, if necessary. Unemployment - someone told you a lie. If you have never done sales before and Advertising Endeavers (AE) is your first sales job and AE says they will train you to do the job, which they did, then when they fire you, they have to pay unemployment. I was actually fired by my team leader. He tried to neg me out, but I am a non-neg person. I don't believe negative things and have a job history with previous big money to back up what I am capable of doing. Unemployment is everyones right - unless they where bad employees. Meaning they stole from the company, they verbally abused someone in the office, or other really big take you to court things. All of the people who AE was their first job or AE was their first sales job are eligible for unemployment only if they did not quit. Additionally - the burden of proof for a bad employee is on each company. The company would have to keep a written record stating the had given the employee fair warning in writing. I was told a lie concerning how I would be paid by my leader. He said I would get paid every two weeks for whatever my earnings where, however I did remember seeing in writing on paper that I signed that if AE wasn't paid that I would not get paid. The leader stated that I would get paid any way and that AE would not hold up my money. I believe what goes around comes around. No one plays with my money. If AE forces my hand they will have to provide hardcopy proof that they did not get paid by my customers. I was not sleezy with my customers. My clients where well aware of what the process was and what the requirements where. I also have the business cards of my big money clients and can always revisit them concerning this issue.

Jessica, I was there for more than 4 weeks (5 weeks). I made it past the requirements in three weeks for the $200.00 bonus. According to the paperwork they owe me $200.00. I will address this issue with a lawyer later, if necessary. Unemployment - someone told you a lie. If you have never done sales before and Advertising Endeavers (AE) is your first sales job and AE says they will train you to do the job, which they did, then when they fire you, they have to pay unemployment. I was actually fired by my team leader. He tried to neg me out, but I am a non-neg person. I don't believe negative things and have a job history with previous big money to back up what I am capable of doing. Unemployment is everyones right - unless they where bad employees. Meaning they stole from the company, they verbally abused someone in the office, or other really big take you to court things. All of the people who AE was their first job or AE was their first sales job are eligible for unemployment only if they did not quit. Additionally - the burden of proof for a bad employee is on each company. The company would have to keep a written record stating the had given the employee fair warning in writing. I was told a lie concerning how I would be paid by my leader. He said I would get paid every two weeks for whatever my earnings where, however I did remember seeing in writing on paper that I signed that if AE wasn't paid that I would not get paid. The leader stated that I would get paid any way and that AE would not hold up my money. I believe what goes around comes around. No one plays with my money. If AE forces my hand they will have to provide hardcopy proof that they did not get paid by my customers. I was not sleezy with my customers. My clients where well aware of what the process was and what the requirements where. I also have the business cards of my big money clients and can always revisit them concerning this issue.

Jessica, I was there for more than 4 weeks (5 weeks). I made it past the requirements in three weeks for the $200.00 bonus. According to the paperwork they owe me $200.00. I will address this issue with a lawyer later, if necessary. Unemployment - someone told you a lie. If you have never done sales before and Advertising Endeavers (AE) is your first sales job and AE says they will train you to do the job, which they did, then when they fire you, they have to pay unemployment. I was actually fired by my team leader. He tried to neg me out, but I am a non-neg person. I don't believe negative things and have a job history with previous big money to back up what I am capable of doing. Unemployment is everyones right - unless they where bad employees. Meaning they stole from the company, they verbally abused someone in the office, or other really big take you to court things. All of the people who AE was their first job or AE was their first sales job are eligible for unemployment only if they did not quit. Additionally - the burden of proof for a bad employee is on each company. The company would have to keep a written record stating the had given the employee fair warning in writing. I was told a lie concerning how I would be paid by my leader. He said I would get paid every two weeks for whatever my earnings where, however I did remember seeing in writing on paper that I signed that if AE wasn't paid that I would not get paid. The leader stated that I would get paid any way and that AE would not hold up my money. I believe what goes around comes around. No one plays with my money. If AE forces my hand they will have to provide hardcopy proof that they did not get paid by my customers. I was not sleezy with my customers. My clients where well aware of what the process was and what the requirements where. I also have the business cards of my big money clients and can always revisit them concerning this issue.

Jessica, I was there for more than 4 weeks (5 weeks). I made it past the requirements in three weeks for the $200.00 bonus. According to the paperwork they owe me $200.00. I will address this issue with a lawyer later, if necessary. Unemployment - someone told you a lie. If you have never done sales before and Advertising Endeavers (AE) is your first sales job and AE says they will train you to do the job, which they did, then when they fire you, they have to pay unemployment. I was actually fired by my team leader. He tried to neg me out, but I am a non-neg person. I don't believe negative things and have a job history with previous big money to back up what I am capable of doing. Unemployment is everyones right - unless they where bad employees. Meaning they stole from the company, they verbally abused someone in the office, or other really big take you to court things. All of the people who AE was their first job or AE was their first sales job are eligible for unemployment only if they did not quit. Additionally - the burden of proof for a bad employee is on each company. The company would have to keep a written record stating the had given the employee fair warning in writing. I was told a lie concerning how I would be paid by my leader. He said I would get paid every two weeks for whatever my earnings where, however I did remember seeing in writing on paper that I signed that if AE wasn't paid that I would not get paid. The leader stated that I would get paid any way and that AE would not hold up my money. I believe what goes around comes around. No one plays with my money. If AE forces my hand they will have to provide hardcopy proof that they did not get paid by my customers. I was not sleezy with my customers. My clients where well aware of what the process was and what the requirements where. I also have the business cards of my big money clients and can always revisit them concerning this issue.

First allow me to make clear that I am probably the biggest anti-Cydcor ex-employee out there. That being said, allow me to explain some behind the scenes action that takes place in these manipulative Cydcor spinoff companies. I don't think that Advertising End. is holding the money that they owe you. The thing with these companies is that they teach the employees how to be vagues with everything they say so that they don't have to commit to qanything. Your leader most likely is clueless about what was going on with your money so he gave you the carbon copy response that the drones are trained to say. What advertising endeavors doesn't tell you when you get hired...is pretty d**n much EVERYTHING! What happens is that a lot of the customers with cancell the order/service after the rep leaves because they were so overcome by your masterful execution of the 5 step and your ability to use your FUGI factors that they said yes to your yes yes questions while all the while being brainwashed by you and your cydcor tactics. Now, I am not saying that you are evil like the top pyrimid people but you were tricked by them and in turn trained to trick/lie to others. Not only others who would come to work for the company, but also customers and friends and family. This is not your fault. As for your $200 bonus, forget about it. I saw them screw countless entry level reps out of that. If you quit/get fired (both the same in Cydcor speak) Danata will tell everyone that "you both sat down and talked and that you both came to the decision that this wasn't the right opportunity for you and that she wishes you all the best... blah...blah...blah" BUT when she says she wishes you the best, what she means is "sweet, not I can go aahead and take all those bonuses away" You get nothing, nada, zip. If you quite before that 2 week time period, or pretty much if she just feels you don't deserve it, she will take it away. I always advise everyone who gets sucked in to get out as soon as possible. I am interested to know, as far as your unemployment, did you talk to Danata about that or take legal actions? The reason I ask is because in all the time that I worked for Cydcor (I am truly embarassed to say how long that really was!!) I never knew her to agree to that. She always told me that if someone was fired they lost rights to unemployment. But the entire time I worked there, they never really fired anyone. They just "neg you out" until you "totally lost your juicy attitude" and then you'd quit. Or they give you a few days off to "think about the opportunity" Opportuniy my a*s! This job/company/group of people are nothing more than a ripoff scam that destroys people.

I am sorry to see that there are so many people who have been negatively impacted by the Cydcor companies and the many affiliate companies. I must admit that when I became an employee with Advertising Endeavers I thought it was suspicious, but when you are looking for work and you haven't worked in awhile ... you are willing to try anything (at least for me that was the case). One of the things that I learned from my experience with Advertising Endeavers is that even if you work hard - it doesn't garentee that you will be successful. For those of you who are currently employees - I say do not quit the job - wait until they fire you. You deserve the right to collect unemployment and if you quit, you give up your right to collect unemployment. The unemployment comes directly from the company. They are required to pay unemployement to the state for those who have worked for them. I will say that Advertising Endeavers fired me and after they fired me they submitted that I quit and was not eligible to collect unemployment. I had enough information to prove that was not the case and Advertising Endeavers changed their submission to unemployment. Companies like Advertising Endeavers prey on people who do not know enough about sales/marketing, do not have experience in the workforce, and or who have felt that corporate America has treated them unfairly. So always do your homework on any company that you decide to work for and if you don't do your homework than be wise enough to tough it out to get your unemployment. In closing I want to say that I actually made more money with Advertising Endeavers than on unemployment, my big problem now is getting paid the money that they owe me. I know that my money was entered into the Cydcor system, but when my pay checks came they where missing large sums of money. I asked my Leader at the time what was going on and he stated that there was a hold on my money because some of the clients had not paid yet. As an ex-employee with over $300++ dollars out in limbo, I am concerned and will be checking my options to find out how to get what I did work for. Additionally as an incentive they offer a $200 bonus for not being late and not missing a day along with making X amount of dollars. I met the qualification and have not seen that money yet. I will keep you posted on what transpires.

I know exactil how you feel! I feel so stupid that I fell for everythine! I even had READ things on ripoffreport about other Cydcor companies and I was still so brainwashed that I actually let them convince me that all the people writing about Cydcor/AE were just bitter cause they couldn't "make it" I wish that I wasn't so naive but I realize that these Evil people prey on naive trusting young people. I wish that I had seen through them before I drained all of my bank account and wreaked my car. I can't believe that these poor kids are WALKING around in the freezing cold and rain and all for NOTHING! There were weeks that I put more money in my gas tank than I actually made working there. And they encourage you to give accounts to the idiots that you train who are usually much smarter than you are only because they don't show up. I feel so sorry for the people who don't get out soon enough and like me, end up paying for it for a long time.