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Complaint Review: Bernard Haldane & Associates - Schaumburg Illinois
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Bernard Haldane & Associates
Schaumburg, Illinois, U.S.A.
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Bernard Haldane & Associates a scam? You be the judge. ..hit the library
Is Bernard Haldane & Associates a scam? You be the judge. After reading all of the comments here, I would say there is some validatity to the claim(s).
Here is my story. After filling out a survey on the web, I was contacted and set up for a free review with a local consultant. Yep, he was a VP. The pitch was excellent and I was instructed to bring in my spouse for the 2nd interview, again free, but where we would discuss fees.
Mark F. Adams (Schaumburg)was very good at hitting the correct insecurity buttons that I had. He was smooth in providing examples on how to talk with interviewers and how to negotiate with them (I guess after 11 years in the business he would be). I even got the leave you alone for few minutesopen the door when you are done statement from Mark after receiving the fee, which was $8,800 (guess my financial statement looked good) with two payment plans. When Mark came back in, we were uncomfortable with making that sized payment and he mentioned placing it on a credit card making monthly payments and even the, "you can get the company that hires you to reimburse this expense if you demand it". Mark through out the option (casually) about utilizing the 10% off option, then they would invoice the hiring company for the full amount and the difference would be money coming back to me (is it ethical to start out at your new company trying to screw them over?). Throughout the process Mark tossed out statistics left and right: their clients get a job within 90 days, majority of their clients obtain salaries $10 to 20K higher than their previous position, etc.
If you really want to use Bernard Haldane (and maybe paying for the service will motivate you in searching for a job), try asking these questions.
1. Mark showed me the pricing structure that the out placement firm my previous employer sent me to charged, yet I didn't see a different rate plan for them. Based on the filings here, it appears that there are different tiers at Bernard Haldane. Why is that and what is provided differently since they all follow the same methodology.
2. How about asking if Bernard Haldane will accept payment upon gainful employment at the new position they prepared you for?
Myself, I think that I will continue to utilize the out-placement firm supplied by my previous employer and hit the library for additional reference material.
Here is my story. After filling out a survey on the web, I was contacted and set up for a free review with a local consultant. Yep, he was a VP. The pitch was excellent and I was instructed to bring in my spouse for the 2nd interview, again free, but where we would discuss fees.
Mark F. Adams (Schaumburg)was very good at hitting the correct insecurity buttons that I had. He was smooth in providing examples on how to talk with interviewers and how to negotiate with them (I guess after 11 years in the business he would be). I even got the leave you alone for few minutesopen the door when you are done statement from Mark after receiving the fee, which was $8,800 (guess my financial statement looked good) with two payment plans. When Mark came back in, we were uncomfortable with making that sized payment and he mentioned placing it on a credit card making monthly payments and even the, "you can get the company that hires you to reimburse this expense if you demand it". Mark through out the option (casually) about utilizing the 10% off option, then they would invoice the hiring company for the full amount and the difference would be money coming back to me (is it ethical to start out at your new company trying to screw them over?). Throughout the process Mark tossed out statistics left and right: their clients get a job within 90 days, majority of their clients obtain salaries $10 to 20K higher than their previous position, etc.
If you really want to use Bernard Haldane (and maybe paying for the service will motivate you in searching for a job), try asking these questions.
1. Mark showed me the pricing structure that the out placement firm my previous employer sent me to charged, yet I didn't see a different rate plan for them. Based on the filings here, it appears that there are different tiers at Bernard Haldane. Why is that and what is provided differently since they all follow the same methodology.
2. How about asking if Bernard Haldane will accept payment upon gainful employment at the new position they prepared you for?
Myself, I think that I will continue to utilize the out-placement firm supplied by my previous employer and hit the library for additional reference material.
4 Updates & Rebuttals
Jack
Denver,Colorado,
Thank you Rip-off Report. You saved us over $15,000 !!
#2Consumer Comment
Mon, February 11, 2002
I want to tell you how much my family and I appreciate your Rip-off Reports. Our family has successfully used this web site 3 different times and you have saved us about 10 to $15,000 if not more.
First, my wife almost sent away for the First National Credit Card when my son look up the card on the Internet, then there was the car dealer we went to, we were about to close on a deal, when they started to d**k us around, my wife went on the internet and your web site came up again! Finally, I went to Bernard Haldane to get a career change when something did not seem right I walked out. Just as I was getting into my car a young lady handed me a copy of a Rip-off Report on Haldane! I told her I was just going home to look them up on the Rip-off Report. Unfortunately, she was not as lucky as I was to find out before paying thousands of dollars to Haldane for for absolutely nothing.
I want you people to know at the Rip-off Report you are the greatest! According to the BBB they have had NO Complaints on Haldane!! Is that insane or what?!
We are also sending you a nice size, well deserved donation to help you all to continue your good work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
Jack
Denver,Colorado,
Thank you Rip-off Report. You saved us over $15,000 !!
#3Consumer Comment
Mon, February 11, 2002
I want to tell you how much my family and I appreciate your Rip-off Reports. Our family has successfully used this web site 3 different times and you have saved us about 10 to $15,000 if not more.
First, my wife almost sent away for the First National Credit Card when my son look up the card on the Internet, then there was the car dealer we went to, we were about to close on a deal, when they started to d**k us around, my wife went on the internet and your web site came up again! Finally, I went to Bernard Haldane to get a career change when something did not seem right I walked out. Just as I was getting into my car a young lady handed me a copy of a Rip-off Report on Haldane! I told her I was just going home to look them up on the Rip-off Report. Unfortunately, she was not as lucky as I was to find out before paying thousands of dollars to Haldane for for absolutely nothing.
I want you people to know at the Rip-off Report you are the greatest! According to the BBB they have had NO Complaints on Haldane!! Is that insane or what?!
We are also sending you a nice size, well deserved donation to help you all to continue your good work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
Jack
Denver,Colorado,
Thank you Rip-off Report. You saved us over $15,000 !!
#4Consumer Comment
Mon, February 11, 2002
I want to tell you how much my family and I appreciate your Rip-off Reports. Our family has successfully used this web site 3 different times and you have saved us about 10 to $15,000 if not more.
First, my wife almost sent away for the First National Credit Card when my son look up the card on the Internet, then there was the car dealer we went to, we were about to close on a deal, when they started to d**k us around, my wife went on the internet and your web site came up again! Finally, I went to Bernard Haldane to get a career change when something did not seem right I walked out. Just as I was getting into my car a young lady handed me a copy of a Rip-off Report on Haldane! I told her I was just going home to look them up on the Rip-off Report. Unfortunately, she was not as lucky as I was to find out before paying thousands of dollars to Haldane for for absolutely nothing.
I want you people to know at the Rip-off Report you are the greatest! According to the BBB they have had NO Complaints on Haldane!! Is that insane or what?!
We are also sending you a nice size, well deserved donation to help you all to continue your good work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
Jack
Denver,Colorado,
Thank you Rip-off Report. You saved us over $15,000 !!
#5Consumer Comment
Mon, February 11, 2002
I want to tell you how much my family and I appreciate your Rip-off Reports. Our family has successfully used this web site 3 different times and you have saved us about 10 to $15,000 if not more.
First, my wife almost sent away for the First National Credit Card when my son look up the card on the Internet, then there was the car dealer we went to, we were about to close on a deal, when they started to d**k us around, my wife went on the internet and your web site came up again! Finally, I went to Bernard Haldane to get a career change when something did not seem right I walked out. Just as I was getting into my car a young lady handed me a copy of a Rip-off Report on Haldane! I told her I was just going home to look them up on the Rip-off Report. Unfortunately, she was not as lucky as I was to find out before paying thousands of dollars to Haldane for for absolutely nothing.
I want you people to know at the Rip-off Report you are the greatest! According to the BBB they have had NO Complaints on Haldane!! Is that insane or what?!
We are also sending you a nice size, well deserved donation to help you all to continue your good work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
