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  • Report:  #173385

Complaint Review: Circuit City - Tampa Florida

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- Land O lakes, Florida,
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Circuit City
18061 Highwoods Preserve Tampa, 33647 Florida, U.S.A.
Phone:
813-975-0065
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This has been nothing but a horrible experience from the get goes.

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My wife for Christmas got me a Python 1400XP which is a remote start for my car. I was thrilled and contacted Circuit City to do the installation. She had also previously paid for that when she bought the items. The total came to $337.02 including the extra transponder I needed for my car.

I made an appointment for January 10 2006 to have this installed at the Highwood Preserve location. This location was right down the street from where I work which seemed convenient at the time. When I dropped my car off one of the things I inquired about was a remote trunk release, since I already had this on my factory keychain and I didn't want to lose that function. I was told that this would be another $45.00 parts and labor which was fine.

I returned at 3pm the time the car was promised to me and the car was still all apart (dash and driver side door). I explained when I dropped my car off that I coach the TC Crew Team after work and it was imperative that I have my car ready so my kids weren't waiting for me. The car wasn't ready till almost 4pm, I signed everything and was on my way.

Over the weekend I tried my new Christmas present and was upset that a lot of things weren't functioning correctly. I couldn't lock the doors with the keyless remote start transmitter and then unlock them without setting off the factory alarm. The remote window defroster didn't work from the transmitter. There was no visible LED included with the system anywhere mounted in the car that I could see. Also the Valet switch was no where to be found. The horn wasn't hooked up to the system to give me an audible conformation when I armed or disarmed the system.

I went back the next week on the 17th and inquired about these things. I showed them the box and the instruction which clearly stated that these weren't options, the only additional things that required additional parts and labor were the trunk and pwr locks. The installation manual clearly showed this according to the wiring schematics.

At that time it was explained to me that I would still need to carry my original remote in order to use my factory alarm. I asked them why you sold me another trunk remote for $45.00 if I have to carry my factory transmitter anyway which already had a remote trunk release. I asked for a refund on the trunk remote, they said NO, that it wasn't their fault. They stated that they didn't know the car had a factory alarm. All they had to do was ask and I would have told them. If they tried locking the car with the factory remote which they had all day it would have chirped, plus the owners manual was in the Glove Box. I felt taken at that point

Then we went on to discuss the other "options" which weren't functioning. I was told the starter kill required additional parts. The tech showed me that it wasn't hooked up by arming the car with the keyless transmitter and then starting the car. I was told just the opposite by Jose the day that I had all this junk removed that the starter kill was indeed hooked up. Who do you believe?

I had taken pictures over the weekend and was very upset to learn that the brain of the unit was mounted right under the dash on the driver's side. The LED and Valet switch was tie wrapped to the bottom of it. This was after the installation instruction stated "The first thing a thief will do when hot wiring a vehicle is to remove the drivers side under-dash panel to access the starter and ignition wires. You should therefore avoid placing the control module just behind the driver's side dash to prevent it from being easily disconnected during a theft attempt. It goes on to state on the next page If the starter kill relay or its connections are immediately visible upon removal of the under dash panel, they can be easily bypassed. Always make the connections difficult to concern from the factory wiring. I don't call tie wrapping the wires to a control box mounted right under the dash a hidden installation.

I also noticed that some of the clips holding my door panel wasn't seated properly, but more important that the grommet protecting my wiring to the door wasn't seated and allowing the factory wires to rub on the sharp surfaces.

I was really getting frustrated and took my car and went back to work. I called the store and asked to speak to the manager around 11:30 that morning, I was told he wasn't there but David an assistant manager could help me but was busy. I left him a message which I received a reply on my voice mail the next morning stating "I'm on my way out the door right now, but wanted to call you back.

I went back the next day the 18th and spoke with the Road Shop Manager Erin Kellbride and presented my case about the alarm, options and my unhappy experience with Circuit City he didn't really seem to care. I then asked for the number of the District manger hoping to get some satisfaction. I was given the name of Hiram Rodriguez at 1-800-251-2665. I called him when I got home that evening. The phone was answered by Richard at a customer Service desk. I was told that I wasn't able to speak to the District Manger until I had spoken to Mickey O'Sullivan the Store Director.

I spoke with Mr. O'Sullivan on the 20th and he assured me after listening to all of my complaints that he would take care of me. I asked when I could bring my car in to have all of this junk removed a get a full refund. The frustration level was overflowing and the 5 trips that I've made to his store were enough.

He said he was off on Monday and asked me to bring the car in on Tuesday the 24th so he could look at it. He said that he would be in at 12 that day, but that I could drop the car off at 10 am.

I dropped the car off on Tuesday at 10:30 and again explained that I coached and needed the car back at 3pm. I spoke with Jose who said this wouldn't be a problem that Mr. O'Sullivan had spoke with him about my situation and that he would be doing the uninstall.

I arrived at 3 to find my car ready, but I need to go to Customer Service to obtain my refund. The young lady took my information and the said she need to have it Okayed. She called Mr. O'Sullivan and he appeared 12 minutes later.

I introduced myself and he said let's go look at your car. I explained that the parts were already uninstalled and that I just need my refund. He got very irate and said I told you I wanted to see it first and refused to refund my money even after I showed him the pictures I had taken of the install.

He was there at 12 pm that day why would he wait until I came to pickup the car to go look at it. I was told by Jose that he knew what was going on, this being the case why didn't he wait until his Store Director Mr. O'Sullivan look at the installation before he removed it. I felt that I have been setup at this point.

I would like a complete refund of my $385.15 and a written apology for all the time and aggravation I've been put thru.

Chris

Land O lakes, Florida
U.S.A.

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11 Updates & Rebuttals

Chris

Land O lakes,
Florida,
U.S.A.
latest update

#2Author of original report

Sat, April 08, 2006

Here's the latest update: I have " I will never let Circuit City intall anthing in my car ever again" in big letters on my back windsheild. I figure that between my commute to work and coaching in South tampa the car averages about 65 miles a day. I've handed out numerous fliers detailing the whole ordeal I sent Circuit City a noterized letter giving them 10 days to respond. I don't expect them too, so it off to small clain court. I'll be sueing for my cost, the cost of delivering the supeona, attourney and any additional court costs. All this over $385.00 :>(


Chris

Land O lakes,
Florida,
U.S.A.
latest update

#3Author of original report

Sat, April 08, 2006

Here's the latest update: I have " I will never let Circuit City intall anthing in my car ever again" in big letters on my back windsheild. I figure that between my commute to work and coaching in South tampa the car averages about 65 miles a day. I've handed out numerous fliers detailing the whole ordeal I sent Circuit City a noterized letter giving them 10 days to respond. I don't expect them too, so it off to small clain court. I'll be sueing for my cost, the cost of delivering the supeona, attourney and any additional court costs. All this over $385.00 :>(


Chris

Land O lakes,
Florida,
U.S.A.
latest update

#4Author of original report

Sat, April 08, 2006

Here's the latest update: I have " I will never let Circuit City intall anthing in my car ever again" in big letters on my back windsheild. I figure that between my commute to work and coaching in South tampa the car averages about 65 miles a day. I've handed out numerous fliers detailing the whole ordeal I sent Circuit City a noterized letter giving them 10 days to respond. I don't expect them too, so it off to small clain court. I'll be sueing for my cost, the cost of delivering the supeona, attourney and any additional court costs. All this over $385.00 :>(


Rashad

Meridian,
Mississippi,
U.S.A.
Installed 1400XP

#5Consumer Comment

Wed, March 22, 2006

I fully understand what you are going through. I had an UNGO System installed on one of my vehicles by a company that is now out of business and I know why. Like you, I had concerns and questions before they started the install. When I got the vehicle back the car started, but the HVAC did not work, the car was easy to accidently start, several safety features were left uninstalled. For instance, there should be a toggle switch installed that allows you to disable the remote start, if the hood is opened the vehicle should not start, or turn off. I recently purchased the Python 1400 XP from Hooper's Electronics. It took all day to install because the installer soldered all the connections unlike other installers (probably Circuit City) and splice the wires. And like the installer wrote that has worked there for two years, it is not an alarm. However, a valet switch is installed on my vehicle along with a toggle switch to disable the remote start. The installer that I used also mounted the LED on my dash like Circuit City should have done yours. Although the 1400 XP is not an alarm, theives do not know that. It's not like a theif knows that you have the Python 1400 XP installed in your vehicle. Like many homeowners have a sign in their yard "Protected By XXXXX Security System", but do not actually have a Security System. It's hard to find someone that knows how to install complex electronics on vehicles, and now I know never to use Circuit City.


Chris

Land O lakes,
Florida,
U.S.A.
information direct from the manual and the cmpany itself

#6Author of original report

Wed, March 01, 2006

Thank you those constructive replies, however the installation manual clearly states the following:

Under deciding on components locations: (pg 4)

and I quote " The first thing a theif will do when hot-wiring a vehicle is to remove the drivers side under-dash panel to access the starter and ignition wires. You should therefore advoid placing the control module just behind the drivers side dash to prvent it from being easily disconnected during a theft attempt.

Page 6 goes on to say:

If the optional starter kill relay or its connections are immediately visible upon removal of the under dash panel, they can easily be bypassed. Always make the relay and it's connections difficult to discern from the factory wiring! Exposed yellow butt connectors do not look like factory parts, and will not fool anyone! For this reason, routing the starter kill wires away from the steering column is recommended.

This is straight from the manual, I understand about short wires. they should have used heat shrink and connected longer wires if need be instead of tie wrapping the wires under the dash, not even behind the dash panel.

The options that you mention are not options with the exception of the Doors and trunk release if not factory equipped. I paid for the trunk release, which I was told afterward about still needing to have to use my factory remote for my alarm. So now I have two trunk remotes on the same keychain. Does that make any sence to you?

Also on primary harness H1 on output #3 is where the horn output is it a (neg) signal using a brown lead.

pg 13 from the manual states:
This wire supplies a (-) 200mA output that can be used to honk the vehicle horn.

Also note that on harness 3 pin 5 is also a (200mA output used to control the Rear window defroster.

The domelight output does require a additional relay becuse on the amount of current it would draw.

The LED and valet switch should have been mounted or someone should have bought that to my attention. The vallet switch can only be activated with the key in the ignition (p39 of the installation manual)

I've done my share of installations, I'm sure you have heard of Crutchfield before. I also have a degree in Electonic Engineering and have my ISCET license.


Joshua

Florissant,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
PYTHON 1400XP IS A REMOTE START KEYLESS NOT A ALARM.

#7Consumer Comment

Tue, February 28, 2006

i have been working for circuit city for two years as a installer. the python 1400xp made by directed is a remote start keyless, not an alarm. the truck pop is a feture it comes with but it is extra labor and a relay to pop the truck. the other thing is with the valet option no installers put on a valet button if someone was to break into your car and the push the valet button it shuts the remote start off. we don't even put the valet button on the alarms.

also with the led circuit sity installers dont install the led because it is misinforming to the customer because they think they have an alarm when really they don't. the 1400xp also does not come with a horn for siren. so you will hear nothing when you unlock or lock the doors, because as i stated before it is NOT an alarm. last but not least the wires that are included in the box are only about 18 to 20 inches long so we have no choice but to put the remote start brain under the dash.


Chris

Land O lakes,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Hard to believe

#8Author of original report

Fri, February 24, 2006

Well I sent the pictures and the information to Denise at Circuit City as she requested. I also sent it to the Board of Directors emails as well.

I thought for sure someone would have some interest in a unhappy customer. As of 02/24/06 I haven't heard back since Denise and I spoke earlier in the week. When I was a tech for Comp USA and we had a unhappy customer I was allowed to make it right or make the customer happy if it didn't exceed $100.00 without a managers approval.

Well, this is where we stand. I've since contacted Eight on your Side and also Eric Sidel with is the consumer lawyer for channel 13. I submitted the information and pictures last week via their web sites, hopefully I'll hear back from one of these shortly.

I also filed a complaint with the FTC and the local BBB requarding my complaint.


Chris

Land O lakes,
Florida,
U.S.A.
I guess the customer isn't always right,

#9Author of original report

Tue, February 14, 2006

I just spoke with Denise at the customer care unit investigating my case (Im 252826). She spoke to the Roadshop Manger and the Store Director and there story is remotely close as to what happened.

They told her that I wanted additional features installed in my car and that I wasn't willing to pay for them. I explained to her that the features we were talking about were clearly stated on the box and in the instruction manual as being part of the unit without out any additional parts required.Even their own websites promotes this:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Python-Remote-Start-Keyless-Entry-System-Python-1400XP-/sem/rpsm/oid/119439/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

The primary reason I wanted my money back for the product and the install was because of the way the unit was thrown in there. As I stated before you just don't install a Remote Start unit in a place that is easily accesible. Right under the dash tie wrapped is about as easy as it gets. I told her I would send her the pictures I took before they unistalled evrything. I also sent these to this site and they will be posting them as soon as they can. They explained it would be 7-10 days because of their back log


Kyle

Gambrills,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
don't waste more phone time

#10Consumer Suggestion

Thu, February 09, 2006

You should go straight to the BBB and/or contact a lawyer. circuit city isn't interested in refunding your money and will do nothing but lie to you over the phone, then hang up. They seem to enjoy hanging up on people, and leaving you on hold for 30+ minutes at a time at circuit city corporate. Don't waste any more time on the phone for them to continue to lie to you.


Chris

Land O lakes,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Still waiting

#11Author of original report

Wed, February 08, 2006

So far I have called back three times and have left my second message with Denise. As of 02-08-06 I haven't hear a thing.


Chris

Land O lakes,
Florida,
U.S.A.
continued nightmare

#12Author of original report

Fri, January 27, 2006

I called back their 800 number on January 26th and spoke with Nancy. I informed her that I had spoken to the Store Director and that now I wish to speak with the District Manager Hiram Rodrigeuz. She said I wasn't allowed to do this and asked me to tell her my complaint. I proceeded to read the letter I had written when half way thru she hung up on me.

I called back and spoke with Samantha who transferred me and put me on hold for 10 minutes. I was then transferred to Denise who took all of my information, including the store ticket number.

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