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  • Report:  #1408117

Complaint Review: Dave Rades - Kokoon Home Kits - Toccoa Georgia

Reported By:
TinyHouseHeartache - Granbury, Texas, USA
Submitted:
Updated:

Dave Rades - Kokoon Home Kits
444 W. Doyle St Toccoa, 30577 Georgia, USA
Phone:
(706) 898-5530
Web:
kokoonhomes.com
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Started researching Kokoon Home Kits in December 2016... After many conversations and having house plan drawings complete, on Feb 15th,   2017, our bank wired $22,897  to Kokoon Home Kits for down payment on a 660 SF Kokoon Home Kit, a SIP (structurally-insulated panel) type DIY home kit. This was a 75% down payment with delivery set to be April 14-17th, 2017. Since I pointed out that was Easter Weekend, the date was pushed to the 22nd.

April 13th – received email saying that the floor order did not come back correct. Delivery date pushed now to May 5th (he would leave Georgia on the 3rd). Also learned that their pier supplier, Diamond Piers, would not be supplying the piers, so we would have to build them ourselves.    

Another delay, still waiting on floor, or so we were told. He would be here the week of May 8th. We went ahead and ordered rental equipment to perform pre-work and have onsite for the build.

May 8th 6:28am, we receive and email stating that they had a worker cut off his pinky finger and filed a lawsuit against Kokoon Homes. The matter was supposed to have been finished that week, OSHA satisfied (we never could find an OSHA case) and his workers would be re-hired. They would be back in production on the 15th and our house delivered 2 weeks later. Here we sit expecting a home, incurring rental charges and no home kit arriving anytime in the near future.

May 17th, Dave Rades admits it was his error on the floor specs, we could never get a clear understanding of what exactly was completed on the home kit materials and why the funding was constantly delayed.

May  25th, we see a posting on Kokoon Home Kits Facebook page for a Tiny House show in Pensacola, FL, with a drawing of our house plans (an even nicer drawing). This made us wonder if our house was indeed sitting in Pensacola, Fl.

June 6th, He was still trying to secure funding and trying to get units ordered from another city (Augusta, is what we were told on the phone).  We were offered a complete refund, including the $2000 credit for the delay. The monies were expected to be available June 9th.

June 19th, still no funds, now working with the Veterans Housing Authority in Montgomery, AL, as well as other contacts and avenues.  We started working with an alternate supplier for a home kit that we could build with remaining funds, until the refund came thru.

July 6th – July 26th more excuses, new paperwork needed, contractor was replaced, you name it, something different every week.  In the meantime, our home kit from Enercept arrived earlier than planned and we started building our home on July 17th, in triple digit heat!

More excuses throughout August, changed floor plan, fired builder, etc.

Checked Kokoon Homes website on Sept 1st and noticed they were attending a show in Atlanta on Sept 8th. Booth space for their size booth was listed at $9200. Why were WE not getting that money??? I booked a flight and confronted Dave Rades, face to face. More excuses on funding delays, was told Kokoon did not pay for the space, Hartwell Homes, of Hartwell, GA. paid for the booth. I tried calling Hartwell to confirm and was told they were ordering a Tiny House from them but the person did not know about booth payment. On Saturday, I tracked down the management person for the Atlanta Home and Garden Show and talked to her about the situation.

I had made shirts I was wearing around the show advertising the fact that I got no home, and no refund from Kokoon. She asked for the details, which I provided, and also talked to the show manager. He found me later on the floor, and told me they were looking into the matter. Later that morning Dave Rades and I were having another conversation, I even gave him a marketing tip to get more business (light the inside of the homes), and he pointed his drill at me like a gun… The manager walked up at some point and I stepped away and he said he would catch up with me. About 10 minutes later he found me and told me he is shutting his display down and sending him home.

During our show conversations, Dave Rades promised that on Tuesday he would send me all the information I asked for that proved he has been truthful with us…. Never received that promised information, still hiding the truth.

Then before the Decatur show he tried to strike a deal that "he could control" payments as long as he was allowed to conduct business "unimpeded". We contacted legal counselor and have filed a lawsuit seeking our promised refund, with interest, including attorney fees. He was served with the lawsuit at this show.

In our opinion, this man should be procecuted for the crimes he has committed. I have a paper trail and proof that the incidents above are true.



10 Updates & Rebuttals

Julie

Granbury,
Texas,
United States
Dave Rades finally arrested in Toccoa, Georgia

#2Author of original report

Fri, August 31, 2018

 The local law enforcement finally arrested this man for felony theft charges. Can’t wait to see what happens next!


Julie

Granbury,
Texas,
United States
No one is stopping you from repaying...

#3Author of original report

Sun, July 29, 2018

 The judge did NOT rule in your favor, the case had to be dropped because you and your lawyer would not let us put it on hold since I lost my job (in part because of this nonsense you are putting us through). Taking over $22,000 and not following legal business practices is NOT a frivolous lawsuit. We gave you a couple of repayment options as well, which you ignored. $1000 a month IF you sell something is not repayment! What did you use our money for in the first place? What profit did you make on that 1700SF house in Dahlonega,GA. No one is stopping you from sending us the money you owe us, that you admit you owe us. Maybe we should re-file the lawsuit and have our day in court, and get your criminal behavior in front of the legal system while we are at it. When you send us an "unofficial” offer that has so many misspellings, minimal payback amounts and bogus information in it, what are we supposed to do?? Send us our refund, not poorly written offer letters with stipulations that must be "validated”.


Dave

Toccoa,
Georgia,
United States
Court finds in favor of Kokoon

#4REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sat, July 28, 2018

Client Norris refused 2 seperate offers to pay back deposit monies. Client filed a frivolus lawsuit in Texas that listed the wrong names and in the wrong jurisdiction state.

Kokoon Homes has spent well over $10,000 repling to this court case. Had the Norris accepted the repayment offered, they would have received their deposit within months of canceling their order.   Hard to pay someone back when thousands and thousands ae being spent defending a frivolus lawsuit.

 

The Judge foud in favor for Kokoon Homes. " Defendants are nonsuited without prejudice." This means Norris had a full 30 days in which to answerr the court with information to suppoert their case and did not.

The judge found in favor of Kokoon.

As of now we are still trying to resolve this matter without having to waste money on more legal fees.


Julie

Granbury,
Texas,
United States
Still waiting on our refund, over ONE YEAR

#5Author of original report

Thu, June 21, 2018

 Still have not received any sort of refund from this man and MY CREDIT takes the hit since we had to use charge cards to finish the house kit we had to buy from A REPUTABLE company. Why is there no justice and what did he do with our $22,897???? Needs to be paid back with interest and this man needs to be jailed for his crimes.


Julie

Granbury,
United States
Over ONE year since refund was promised

#6Author of original report

Thu, June 21, 2018

 Still have not received any sort of refund from this man and MY CREDIT takes the hit since we had to use charge cards to finish the house kit we had to buy from A REPUTABLE company. Why is there no justice and what did he do with our $22,897???? Needs to be paid back with interest and this man needs to be jailed for his crimes.


Dave

Toccoa,
United States
Robert Hobbs has his money BBB finds in favor of Kokoon

#7UPDATE Employee

Wed, June 20, 2018

Mr Hobbs has his cash and his CUSTOM ORDERD trailer is still waiting on his pickup. Kokoon spent hundreds of dollars marketing it as a show of good faith. Robert has not even listed it in Atlanta area on Craigs list (listing for free)....or anything else to help sell his trailer.

BBB finds in favor of Kokoon case # 27555551


Robert

Kennesaw,
Georgia,
United States
Almost 2 years and still no refund

#8Consumer Comment

Sat, May 05, 2018

I too am a victim of Dave Rades.  I am hoping to find out the outcome to this complaint, and I would love to have an opportunity to email the original poster. Bob Hobbs [email protected]


Robert

Kennesaw,
United States
I have to sue him as well

#9Consumer Comment

Mon, April 23, 2018

$6000 for two years in refund money---lies, promises, threats, he is a crook.


Dave

Toccoa,
Georgia,
United States
Escrow Accounts

#10REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, December 01, 2017

We now escrow deposits due to these incidents. Escrow places the finances in a third party account to assure all parties receive what is due. This case is in court and we are instructed by our attorney to make no comments until it is satisfied.


Anonymous

commack,
Alabama,
USA
yes

#11UPDATE EX-employee responds

Tue, October 24, 2017

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