Spence
Tempe,#2Consumer Comment
Sat, August 27, 2016
I certainly won't speak for anyone else but I'm black (African-American) and I met my wife on this site in 2005. We've been married 10 years in November.
Yes the majority of the women on the site are going to be caucasian because the started out in Eastern Europe. Just as KissesofAfrica is primarily going to have black women. I never dealt with discrimination on Elena's site. If a woman wasn't interested, she would simply respond to my expression of interest with a "no." I know I'm not the only black guy to find someone on the site because atleast one other guy sent in pictures of his wife that he met on the site.
There was a half-Nigerian, half-French woman that I was talking to, she was in Paris but used Elena's site for some reason.
According to my wife, there were steps that she had to take to prove that she was the one that actually put up the ad on the site to eliminate people who were using random girls' pictures to scam. She had to physically show up to one of the offices for pictures and had to talk to someone on the phone to confirm that she put up the ad.
Here's the reality of talking to someone from Elena's site or any similar site:
1) You are always going to find people who are looking to scam, irrespective of what site you use.
2) If you're not caucasian, you are going to run into the possibilty that some women don't date outside their race.
3) In the US, the process of getting a fiancee visa takes about 18 months to get an approval. Once approved the visa lasts for six months. When she (or he) lands in the US, you have 90 days to get married.
4) It costs a great deal of money so budget for it. The US requires you to visit each other in person at least once and requires you to show that you have an established relationships (e.g. e-mails, letters, gifts, etc). You also have to send in 12 pictures of the two of your stading in the picture together.
It's not an easy process but at no point did I ever get the feeling that Elena's website promoted racism or discriminiation. Most of these women are looking at guys in the US, Australia or Western Europe. They simply aren't looking for guys in Trinidad and Tobago. I don't mean that to talk down to you or your country. My point is either they don't know much about the country or just don't want to take the chance to go there.
This Is The Truth
St Petersburg,#3Consumer Comment
Sat, October 01, 2011
Here is what we learn about all these commentators
1. They are all racist discriminators just like Elena Petrova is
2. They are all those who most likely belong to the same ethnic grouping like Elena Petrova is
3. They are all worshippers of Elena Petrova as their god
However they will not talk about her discrimination practices and prejudicial patterns that are part of the system dynamics on her site. Those who see her as their god believe she is all good and this is not the case at all
If she is your god then feel free to cry out to her and let her answer your prayers when you need help!
But... Fear Not!
....This wicked woman will have her day to be judged when the Real God shows up and so will you her supporters as well...For He will not allow your wickedness as well to prevail!
TheRealTruthTeller
Penal,#4Consumer Comment
Wed, June 01, 2011
Here's the deal-Imagine outsiders from Australia are actually speaking to an Australian who should know his own country better than those retards who outside his country that are actually lecturing him
Anyone who says they are sorry about the bad happened that happened to them on this site is absolutely LYING. They are not because they are simply one-sided and those with the so-called "positive" only look down at one side of the coin
Let's look at the discrimination practices of Elena Petrova-Why are many profiles one-ethnic based. Others will say well you know that's how the women think over there-Ridiculous! Why would they say that because have prejudice and ethnic backwardness in them themselves!
The site only caters for one race in majority per its profile arrangement and if that isnt a case for discrimination I do not know what is. Other sites do not have this labelling on such profiles and if it is one can see it in the minority and not in the majority like on Elena Petrova's site! Plus there is no advertising of other races on the site-None. Plus testimonials are scarce of mixed race couples. Why because the site does not cater to other races!
Why don't these idiotic endorsers talk about this-because they are part of the same system of discrimination themselves and will never see equality and fairness as an issue!
Just remember endorsers the wrongs Elena Petrova has done can never be covered over by the "right" things you have seen with her on her site especially against other races. Plus last time I checked your comments were not at the top of the search engine of this site and you have failed to even in all your attempts to see her removal from this wonderful complaints forum that has blacklisted her permanently here for all the world to see
Well done commentator of the negative with Elena Petrova! Well done!
Spence
Tempe,#5General Comment
Thu, April 07, 2011
Although, I've had a wonderful experience with Elena's Models, Dino is right that some women out there will only use guys to get out of the country. My wife (who I met on the site) lived outside of Ukraine on three different occasions (Austria, German and Norway) before coming to The States. I intentionally chose a woman who knew English and lived abroad because it gave me a better sense of her intentions. In other words, if she truly wanted to stay abroad, she had three opportunities to do so, not to mention that we met when she was in Norway, not her home country so we were on neutral ground and she had an entire year to decide whether or not she wanted to stay in the country another year or permanently.
Also, make sure that you ask the woman about how she feels about belonging to a Russian or Ukrainian (or whatever is her ethnicity) group outside of her home country. My wife likes to get together and speak Russian and Ukrainian with other speakers but that's as far as the friendship goes. She doesn't want to hang out with them because as she states, "there are certain people (from Eastern Europe) who go abroad and many of them do not have good intentions." That's not to say they are criminals or up to no good but she has decided to err on the side of caution.
Guys take your time, ask lots of questions and if you don't trust the girl 100% then it's not worth it. When you marry someone and sponsor their visa, you are indebted to them for 10 years (according to the government) unless they remarry. That means that you pay their expenses out of your pocket (it was $12,000/yr a few years ago) if you divorce because the government won't give them assistance. It is a huge step so make sure that you perform due diligence without letting your emotions get in the way.
Spence
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Dino
91423,#6Consumer Suggestion
Wed, April 06, 2011
I feel for the author of this letter, I do. But it is not the fault of Elena's Models.
I used the site for 3 years. I met two wonderful women. One in Moscow I date for a year, and the second is my wife of 4 years. I will say this. In the LA area, my wife has reached out to meet other Russian ladies and most of them ARE gold-diggers who admit they only married for the green card! The only Russian lady my wife met in LA who was honest, met her husband on Elena's Models.
You have to ask a lot of questions, you have to really understand the language and culture. For me, I had the added bonus of being an Orthodox Christian and I wanted an Orthodox wife. So, I made religion and church going a priority. Most ladies I wrote to were honest if they weren't church going. When they admitted they weren't, all of them said it wouldn't work for them if that was important for me, honorable and conversation ended, amicably.
My experience with the Ukrainian women was horrific. I found three in a row to be gold diggers and quickly ended the dating. I met all of them in USA, though.
My wife even met a young Ukranian girl in LA. She married a man 25 years older just to come to USA an went to night clubs each weekend to cheat on her husband and find another man. Who is at fault here? I don't know, but if you marry a girl who's 20 and you're 45, I would say your odds of long-term happiness are not good.
I hate to dismiss an entire country due to 4 bad experiences. But my track record in Russia was very good. There is a permissiveness to lie and deceive. I found it to be worse in Ukraine than in Russia. It is sad, because I am sure there are honest and good ladies in Ukraine. Unfortunately, it seems they are much harder to find than in Russia.
Spence
Tempe,#7
Sat, September 19, 2009
Sorry to hear that you've had a hard time with this site. I used Elena's site four years ago and I only used a fraction of my credits before I began corresponding with my future wife. Yes there are some scammers on there but you'll find scammers everywhere (Yahoo, Match.com). One has to remember that you are dealing with women from a very different culture when corresponding with someone from Eastern Europe and things that might be acceptable to speak of in the West are not acceptable in the East during courtship.
Additionally, if you sign up to receive the newsletter from Elena or (I think) read the FAQ on Elena's site, it clearly states that you should be ready to spend between $10-$20k USD if you find someone. This cost is accurate due to traveling, hotels, entertainment, immigration lawyer (if you chose to use one) and immigration fees.
I cannot speak for everyone but I found Elena's site to be very useful and I married the woman that I found on the site. We've been together for 4 1/2 years and have been married for almost 3 years; she hasn't left me (and yes she has a green card and will apply for citizenship soon), nor is she a gold digger or uneducated (Masters degree and speaks five languages). I would totally do this again, and no I'm not an employee of Elena's. Additionally my wife was living and working in Norway at the time we were dating and Norway (in my opinion) has a more stable lifestyle and economic system than the US. If she really wanted to marry for money and guaranteed financial security...she would married and stayed in Norway. We are truly in love.
If you want to know more about my experience, feel free to e-mail me: [email protected]
Here are Elena's FAQ's: http://www.elenasmodels.com/faq/index.htm
Robert
Buffalo,#8Consumer Comment
Thu, January 15, 2009
Now Golddiggers are being outsourced!
Joe
Austin,#9Consumer Comment
Thu, January 15, 2009
DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND MARRY A LOCAL LADY AND THAT WAY YOU WON'T BE OUT ALL OF THAT MONEY FOR A FORTUNE HUNTER. AND IF YOU LIVE IN AUSTRALIA, WHY WOULD YOU CARE ABOUT THE AMERICAN IMMIGRATION ANYWAY? REMEMBER THAT ONE IN EVERY TWO MARRIAGE ENDS IN DIVORCE.
Gerry
Sarasota,#10Consumer Comment
Wed, January 14, 2009
I wanted to update that the visa interview I spoke about in the above rebuttal happened in September, 2008, my fiance got her visa and arrived in New York in October, and we were married in November, 2008. Thank you Elena for everything you do. My life will always be better because of it.
Gerry
Sarasota,#11Consumer Comment
Sat, August 09, 2008
Just a quick rebuttal to this obviously frustrated guy: The K-1 visa that you speak of, costs $455 to file the papers with USCIS, not the $1080 that you claim. I know this because my fiance and I are 4 weeks away from her visa interview, and I have first-hand knowledge on the entire process. Also, my fiance and I also met through Elenasmodels.com - which is the company that you don't speak too highly of. I personally, can not speak HIGHLY ENOUGH of Elena Petrova and her service. My life has changed 100% for the better because of it, because I thank God every day for my beautiful fiance and cannot wait until I can see her again. I gather from your very long-winded post, that you are upset because you have had to spend some money and that the women you have "met" don't seem to have any love interest in you. From reading you post, I don't blame them. Whether or not you look for love in a bar, at work, on the internet, or anywhere else, a certain amount of investment is required. Nothing in this life that is worth anything is free. You are correct, if you want to go the route of looking for a Russian or Ukrainian woman to have a relationship with (which I highly recommend, by the way - you won't view American women the same way afterwards, I promise!), it will cost you some money, because you must be prepared to fly to her home to visit her at least once. This is a requirement of the US Immigration Department, that if you file for a K-1 fiance visa, that you must have met at least once within the past 24 months. The whole process will cost you a minimum of about $6K, and more if you continue to go back to see her. So, you must understand that going in. There isn't a country in the world (USA included) that is free from government corruptness. I have been to many of the countries you have listed, and while they certainly have their imperfections, there is also many great things about them. I personally find the people of Russia, Ukraine and Czech Republic to be very warm, friendly, accommodating people. But, to get there, you must give back just the same. From the negativity of your post, my guess is that this was far from the case on your part. Maybe that is why the girls don't flock to you. Just a perception on my part.