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Complaint Review: First Nation Benefits - Nationwide
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First Nation Benefits Phone Scam - Offers Gov't Grant / You allow them to withdraw of $29.95 in 2 days from your checking acct. but they do it immediately! Nationwide *EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!
They will call and tell you that you have been chosen by the US Gov't to receive a grant up to $1500.00 USD and request your routing number and checking account number so that they may withdraw $29.95 to cover the shipping and handling costs. This money is later described to go for the aide of children in the disasters of the world.
When I hung up the first time the call rang back three more times. When I said I just had this call 30 seconds ago they hung up on me. Then the first person I called in turn called me back to say that something had happened to the connection and could I re-enter all of my information over again. Each time I was asked to enter the date I gave a differant answer and they would come back and correct me asking me to repeat the correct date after them.
On my phone the two numbers that showed up on my caller ID were 1-213-327-0200 and 1-213-327-0107. The first number I called back had a woman answer who seemed to know what I wanmted before I was even able to say why I had called. I informed her that I had already called my bank and that you can't draw blood from a turnip since I have no money in my account. For some reason she seemed not amused at this statement. (Wonder Why?) She claimes that she is working for a legitamate company and that this other company that she knew by name before I said who they were had somehow found a way to mask themselves and to piggy back thier phone line so that when you look at your caller ID you saw the number of her company. She insistantly asked more than once if I was given a toll free number by them to call and what it was. Did they give me an address. I reported to her that they did not give to me either. She claimed to have already reported them to the FTC and the FCC. Who is the FTC?
I did not tell her that they gave me tha name of Nathan Smith and an ID number of 101023 (the Gov't issued number give to him) or the name of Sid Parker. They funny thing is that niether of these men could say the American sounding names very well. They both had accents simular to those of individuals from India and that region of the world.
Although I gave my checking account number and routing number at first there is no money in the account. I have alerted my bank. And I will be closing that account out. I hope that someone is able to track them down and stop these people soon.Should there be an investigation into this I would possibly be willing to allow my phone records to be used provided I were given the proper documentation to prove the investigating party.
Betty
Troy, Ohio
U.S.A.
EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!
HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:
Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.
According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.
If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.
Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!
DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!
Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.
And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.
Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.
If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.
CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD
If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.
Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.
And good luck Let us know how you do!
ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
[email protected]
badbusinessbureau.com
www.ripoffreport.com
Don't let them get away with it.
Make sure they make the Rip-off Report!
We are not lawyers.
We are not a collection agency.
We are Consumer Advocates.
...the victims' advocate
WE are Civil and Human Rights Activists
We are a Worldwide Consumer Reporting News Agency
...by consumers, for consumers
CLICK HERE to read about Credit Card Scams... find out how to get your money back. *Rip-off Report Investigation provides valuable information.
When I hung up the first time the call rang back three more times. When I said I just had this call 30 seconds ago they hung up on me. Then the first person I called in turn called me back to say that something had happened to the connection and could I re-enter all of my information over again. Each time I was asked to enter the date I gave a differant answer and they would come back and correct me asking me to repeat the correct date after them.
On my phone the two numbers that showed up on my caller ID were 1-213-327-0200 and 1-213-327-0107. The first number I called back had a woman answer who seemed to know what I wanmted before I was even able to say why I had called. I informed her that I had already called my bank and that you can't draw blood from a turnip since I have no money in my account. For some reason she seemed not amused at this statement. (Wonder Why?) She claimes that she is working for a legitamate company and that this other company that she knew by name before I said who they were had somehow found a way to mask themselves and to piggy back thier phone line so that when you look at your caller ID you saw the number of her company. She insistantly asked more than once if I was given a toll free number by them to call and what it was. Did they give me an address. I reported to her that they did not give to me either. She claimed to have already reported them to the FTC and the FCC. Who is the FTC?
I did not tell her that they gave me tha name of Nathan Smith and an ID number of 101023 (the Gov't issued number give to him) or the name of Sid Parker. They funny thing is that niether of these men could say the American sounding names very well. They both had accents simular to those of individuals from India and that region of the world.
Although I gave my checking account number and routing number at first there is no money in the account. I have alerted my bank. And I will be closing that account out. I hope that someone is able to track them down and stop these people soon.Should there be an investigation into this I would possibly be willing to allow my phone records to be used provided I were given the proper documentation to prove the investigating party.
Betty
Troy, Ohio
U.S.A.
EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!
HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:
Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.
According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.
If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.
Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!
DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!
Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.
And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.
Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.
If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.
CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD
If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.
Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.
And good luck Let us know how you do!
ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
[email protected]
badbusinessbureau.com
www.ripoffreport.com
Don't let them get away with it.
Make sure they make the Rip-off Report!
We are not lawyers.
We are not a collection agency.
We are Consumer Advocates.
...the victims' advocate
WE are Civil and Human Rights Activists
We are a Worldwide Consumer Reporting News Agency
...by consumers, for consumers
CLICK HERE to read about Credit Card Scams... find out how to get your money back. *Rip-off Report Investigation provides valuable information.
