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  • Report:  #247665

Complaint Review: Garry Small Saab - Ricky Ray Small - Portland Oregon

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- oregon city, Oregon,
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Garry Small Saab - Ricky Ray Small
1940 SE 82nd Avenue Portland, 97045 Oregon, U.S.A.
Phone:
503-771-7222
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Ricky Ray Small son of Garry Small owner of Garry Small Saab. Ricky Ray Small has never paid a dime of child support to his one year old son. Lonnie Small (Ricky's mother) badgers the mother of this child as to why the State of Oregon and California wants to collect the $400 per month child support owed.

Lonnie Small wants the mother to only have her dysfunctional child Ricky pay child support if he can, when he can, for whatever amount of money he can. Mr. and Mrs. Small pay all of Ricky's bills and he is 36 years old. Evidently they don't want to add the child support to his monthly obligations.

To top this nightmare off, the State of Oregon just recently picked up this child from Ricky Ray Small's house. Allegations of domestic violence, and substance abuse issues. Seems Ricky Ray has been working on his own plan to take care of his only child. This man has been destroying the mother to take care of his obligations! What a puke of a human being.

Beware of this man, and this family!

Cindie

oregon city, Oregon
U.S.A.


9 Updates & Rebuttals

Cindie

Oregon City,
Oregon,
U.S.A.
Life is a Beautiful Life

#2Author of original report

Fri, October 19, 2007

When a mother witnesses her daughters body "loaded" with bruises from her neck, torso, arms and legs from an angry man, Rick, it is not a pleasant sight. I had many conversations with Rick about how this behavior is unacceptable. Domestic violence is terrible. When a mother witnesses an angry man, Rick, feeding a clean and sober daughter drugs, it is not a happy day. I had many conversations with Rick about giving up his "drug" lifestyle. When I witness the fact that the Small's were told numerous times by me what was going on with their son, their grandson, and the mother of the child, only to see them turn a blind eye to it all. It is not a happy day. The only reason why these events were stopped is because I, and the mothers dad had the courage to take action, make a call to DHS for the best interest of the child. When Rick assisted by Robyn Small's handwritten lies files a bogus stalking order against me that is thrown out of court and DENIED, it is not a happy day. When Rick tells my daughter the allegations of how he was "SEXUALLY MOLESTED" and that is why he is so screwed up, it is not a happy day. I tried to encourage Rick to seek professional counseling to confront these demons that evidently haunt him. His whole family knows of this, and should encourage him to "work through" this terrible event. Sexual abuse of a minor is pathetic. In order to make progress on both parent's issues, the truth must be faced, and not "masked." I would like nothing more than to see both of these parents get their acts together to raise a prosperous, loving child. Whatever it takes! It would be in the best interest of the child to have both, loving, nurturing parents involved in his life. The mother has made great strides in repairing the damage that was done, hopefully Rick is working diligently to do the same. Yes life is a beautiful life!


Facts Only

W,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
Honored to have the Smalls in my life

#3Consumer Comment

Tue, October 16, 2007

I find the statements made by Cindie Weltch to be not only untrue, but utterly appalling. Not only has this woman wrongfully tried to attach the life of one individual to an entire company in a laughably pathetic attempt to cause Garry Small Saab problems, but her words are spun from half-truths. Cindie's attempt to slander Rick Small for her own petty pleasure only serves to show what a vindictive individual she is. It makes it evident that her goal in this case is to try and cause an innocent family harm, when all anyone's goal should be is to do what is best for the child. Were she in fact actually concerned with her grandson's well-being, perhaps she would calmly, rationally, and legally explore the proper avenues to address any issues. However, through her actions, she has made it painfully evident that she cares not at all about the child in question, but only about getting her own personal form of revenge. A revenge she is attempting to exact on a family that has done nothing but care for, support and love the grandchild that she is not fit to be with. Other interesting facts to note: - Cindie claims that her daughter (the mother) leads a beautiful life funny, since she was suspended from returning to her state mandated classes for two weeks because she couldn't pass a UA. - The child's mother has missed more than one visitation. - Rick is allowed visits with his son at his parents' home yet neither the child's mother, grandmother nor great grandmother are allowed to visit the child unless they are under the watch of the state at a DHS facility. Turns out they can't be trusted. Cindie, since you are so interested in the facts, care to provide the dollar amount that your child has paid to support her child? One can only assume that since you are SO irate at Rick for being unable to provide financial support that your child must be making regular payments to the Smalls to provide for her son, right? Ah, a beautiful life indeed! More like a beautiful lie. I have had the pleasure of knowing the Smalls for more than 5 years now and could not be more honored to have them in my life. This wonderful family has opened their homes to me and welcomed me into their lives on many occasions without a second thought. They are incredible people who are kind, hard-working, selfless and always generous with their time, hearts, and spirits. Perhaps Cindie should take a step back and reach for the positive in what is undeniably an upsetting and difficult situation for all those involved. Perhaps she should realize that her grandson was lucky enough to be born to a father whose family accepts him without hesitation or question, and without using him for retribution. And perhaps she should think of doing the same.


Cindie

Oregon City,
Oregon,
U.S.A.
Edith check your FACTS

#4Author of original report

Mon, October 15, 2007

Every financial obligation that the State of Oregon has asked of the mother is totally up to date. So YES Ricky Ray Small is still the deadbeat dad as reported! Edith if you are going to respond to thrid party allegations, kindly PLEASE get your facts in order.


Cindie

Oregon City,
Oregon,
U.S.A.
Seems the truth has hit a NERVE!

#5Author of original report

Mon, October 15, 2007

Odd how the people involved in this are NOT Rebutting this. As of this date, Rick has paid $16 toward supporting his child who is 19 months old now. The truth being Shaneil was drug free when she came back to Oregon to try to reclaim a family for her child. Rick much rather spend his money he earns under the table recycling junk metal on gambling, drugs, stripper joints, and prostitutes. His record shows a variety of meth related charges, as well as prostitution convictions. If Rick's family were truly concerned for him, they would have never ENABLED him to continue to be a drug addict by providing for his every need. How else will he ever learn to be a contributing member to the society he takes a hand out from to feed, clothe and shelter him? As far as the allegations you make against the mother, why don't you check out the progress she has made since your son Ricky Ray tried to destroy the mother of his son? Now that she has gotten away from his TOXIC life he leads, and offers to all that meet him: life is totally a beautiful life. The enitre Small family know the lies they have told, the destruction they have caused my good family, and need to have their FEET HELD TO THE FIRE for what they have done. This is THEIR SAABSTORY Wouldn't one think such a pillar of the community would pay the State of Oregon back for the support their grandson has received?


Edith

Portland,
Oregon,
U.S.A.
NEW Information

#6Consumer Comment

Thu, October 11, 2007

It has come to may attention that not only the father but the mother owes child support. Both parents get bills from the State of Oregon. So.......it is hard to say that child support isn't being paid by the father when in fact the mother is not paying support either. You cannot pin all the child support issues on the father. The mother is just as much to blame. Both of them need to take child support responsibilities seriously but neither one does. It just goes back to what I said earlier. Both parents live off of someone else and cannot provide for the child without support from a parent, family member or the State of Oregon.


Edith

Portland,
Oregon,
U.S.A.
NEW Information

#7Consumer Comment

Thu, October 11, 2007

It has come to may attention that not only the father but the mother owes child support. Both parents get bills from the State of Oregon. So.......it is hard to say that child support isn't being paid by the father when in fact the mother is not paying support either. You cannot pin all the child support issues on the father. The mother is just as much to blame. Both of them need to take child support responsibilities seriously but neither one does. It just goes back to what I said earlier. Both parents live off of someone else and cannot provide for the child without support from a parent, family member or the State of Oregon.


Employee Xyz

Portland,
Oregon,
U.S.A.
AWESOME Company with proven track record!

#8UPDATE Employee

Wed, October 10, 2007

As an employee of G.S.S. I am offended by the use of the company in these allegations. This is an attack on the owners and all the employees. This is an outstanding company to work for. We have employees that have been here for 20 and 30 years, which says allot about the company but most of all the owners. The company has an excellent reputation and is an outstanding company with the Better Business Bureau. We not only have the best owners and employees but are customers are the best too! I feel that Cindie owes an apology to the owners, all the employees and our customers.


Edith

Portland,
Oregon,
U.S.A.
Loving family attacked with lies

#9UPDATE Employee

Wed, October 10, 2007

It is very sad that this letter was ever written. I am a personal friend of the family in question and can say without a doubt that they are some of the best people I know. They have stepped up to the plate to care for their grandson and he is one lucky little boy. He is very happy and loved immensely. The father was mentioned so in fairness the mother is Shaneil Weltch. Both of these parents have drug addictions. Anyone who has family members with drug addictions knows how much pain and suffering it can cause. It can tear a family apart. The fact that child support hasn't been paid is always an awful situation. One thing not mentioned is that not just the father but also the mother, Shaneil, does not work. They both allow drugs to rule their lives so in fact they both are dead beat parents. Neither one could provide support for the minor child without help from a parent, family member or the state. They should have never had a child, but they did. Both parents live off of someone else. The father, his parents. The mother, Shaneil, her grandmother. Not mentioned is Cindie, the originator of this complaint and mother to Shaneil lives off of her mother (Shaneil's grandmother). All three of them are no better than the other when it comes to providing for themselves. The accusations of abuse are such an outlandish lie. It is awful that anyone would say such things knowing that they are false. One has to wonder the sanity of such a person who would blatantly lie like this. Anyone becomming a foster parent knows what a grueling process it can be. You no longer have a private life. It does not matter if you are a relative; the process is the same for EVERYONE becomming foster parents. DHS is a permanent fixture in your life. You now have hours of mandatory training, possible court dates, visits to your house by DHS and countless papers to fill out. Basically your life is put under a microscope. The minor child should have both of his parents but when drugs are involved it changes everything. Neither parent is willing to change to take care of their child. The child is in the best, most stable place with lots of love, laughter, comfort, security, family and more love. Family, friends and The State of Oregon all agree. In the end all that matters is the minor child. These petty accusations by Cindie need to stop, for the sake of the innocent one.


Truthtalker96

Portland,
Oregon,
U.S.A.
**UPDATE**

#10Consumer Comment

Wed, October 10, 2007

First off I would like to state that Garry Small Saab as a dealership should not have been associated with the Dead Beat Dad section of this website. Lets leave the consumer stuff to the appropriate section of the website. I'd like to post an update since Cindie was quick to tell people here her opinion. The Child was taken away by the state of Oregon and is now in the custody of Rick's parents , who are supporting and caring for the child. Rick is obviously not required to pay child support to Shaneil who isn't caring for the child -- this is a non-issue. Since Cindie feels so strong about Rick paying Child support, maybe she should be suggesting that her daughter Shaneil pay child support now that the role is reversed.

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