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Oshkosh,#2Author of original report
Thu, October 22, 2009
I am continuing my efforts to resolve my dispute with Govliquidation. Does anyone have a photograph or an original "No Pre-Screening" tag? I want to use it to demonstrate that it was in use during my interactions with GL. They do not seem to be posting photographs showing it anymore. If not, please comment here if you have seen this tag used by GL. Please only straightforward honest replies. Thank you
Lucky
Odessa,#3Consumer Suggestion
Thu, February 05, 2009
This is a positive result coming from Govliquidation in that there is now a system in place to allow a true bidders corner feature for auction bidders. Bidders can now access more information, and communicate with each other about the army surplus auction business by doing a web search using the words, govliquidation-bidders-list.com. This is a very good development because now bidders who want to can contact each other. Luckybatt
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Oshkosh,#4Author of original report
Wed, October 31, 2007
It is absolutely impossible to inspect laptop computers without knowledge of any and all serial numbers used by the manufacturers. You try and inspect (18) tri-wall boxes. They will not give you the time to do it and if you could it would take all day. I don't mind equipment that is inoperable, but having to haul away their junk is another story. Many auctions are tagged "No Pre-Screening" So you cannot see what you have bid on in advance. It's a racket, that leaves little or no recourse to the little guy. We'll see what the courts have to say. It's called bait and switch and it's illegal in every state in the union. Contract or no contract!
Robert
Buffalo,#5Consumer Comment
Sun, October 28, 2007
When I was in the military it was called DRMO, and you had to register to be put on an authorized bidder list to bid on items. Times have changed however, what has not appeared to change is the fact that you have to inspect the lots. Back in 1978 (last time I purchased stuff from the base drmo) you were notified that everything was as is and that you agreed that you either inspected the lot or had the opportunity to inspect the lot - in other words, don't trust the lot description. Back then, as a registered bidder, you could have a computer listing of the various auctions mailed to you. Now we have the internet. This is how it was back then, and now. Here's the statement from their website: ""ACCEPTANCE OF PURCHASED PROPERTY "AS IS"; DISCLAIMERS, WAIVERS AND INDEMNITY: 37. YOUR PURCHASE OF OR PLACEMENT OF A BID ON THE PROPERTY CONSTITUTES ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROPERTY AS IS AND IN A USED CONDITION. "ACCEPTANCE" AS USED HERE ALSO MEANS THAT, BY PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY, YOU WILL BE DEEMED TO HAVE EXAMINED, OR HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE, THE PROPERTY AND AGREED THAT THE PROPERTY IS OF THE SIZE, DESIGN, CAPACITY AND MANUFACTURER SELECTED BY YOU, IS IN PHYSICAL AND MECHANICAL CONDITION ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, AND IS FIT FOR THE PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND USE YOU REQUIRE. It doesn't appear to me that this policy/disclaimer is any different from what I remember when I was at Plattsburgh AFB. If your going to buy from DRMS that's one of the conditions you agree to.
Robert
Buffalo,#6Consumer Comment
Sun, October 28, 2007
When I was in the military it was called DRMO, and you had to register to be put on an authorized bidder list to bid on items. Times have changed however, what has not appeared to change is the fact that you have to inspect the lots. Back in 1978 (last time I purchased stuff from the base drmo) you were notified that everything was as is and that you agreed that you either inspected the lot or had the opportunity to inspect the lot - in other words, don't trust the lot description. Back then, as a registered bidder, you could have a computer listing of the various auctions mailed to you. Now we have the internet. This is how it was back then, and now. Here's the statement from their website: ""ACCEPTANCE OF PURCHASED PROPERTY "AS IS"; DISCLAIMERS, WAIVERS AND INDEMNITY: 37. YOUR PURCHASE OF OR PLACEMENT OF A BID ON THE PROPERTY CONSTITUTES ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROPERTY AS IS AND IN A USED CONDITION. "ACCEPTANCE" AS USED HERE ALSO MEANS THAT, BY PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY, YOU WILL BE DEEMED TO HAVE EXAMINED, OR HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE, THE PROPERTY AND AGREED THAT THE PROPERTY IS OF THE SIZE, DESIGN, CAPACITY AND MANUFACTURER SELECTED BY YOU, IS IN PHYSICAL AND MECHANICAL CONDITION ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, AND IS FIT FOR THE PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND USE YOU REQUIRE. It doesn't appear to me that this policy/disclaimer is any different from what I remember when I was at Plattsburgh AFB. If your going to buy from DRMS that's one of the conditions you agree to.
Robert
Buffalo,#7Consumer Comment
Sun, October 28, 2007
When I was in the military it was called DRMO, and you had to register to be put on an authorized bidder list to bid on items. Times have changed however, what has not appeared to change is the fact that you have to inspect the lots. Back in 1978 (last time I purchased stuff from the base drmo) you were notified that everything was as is and that you agreed that you either inspected the lot or had the opportunity to inspect the lot - in other words, don't trust the lot description. Back then, as a registered bidder, you could have a computer listing of the various auctions mailed to you. Now we have the internet. This is how it was back then, and now. Here's the statement from their website: ""ACCEPTANCE OF PURCHASED PROPERTY "AS IS"; DISCLAIMERS, WAIVERS AND INDEMNITY: 37. YOUR PURCHASE OF OR PLACEMENT OF A BID ON THE PROPERTY CONSTITUTES ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROPERTY AS IS AND IN A USED CONDITION. "ACCEPTANCE" AS USED HERE ALSO MEANS THAT, BY PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY, YOU WILL BE DEEMED TO HAVE EXAMINED, OR HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE, THE PROPERTY AND AGREED THAT THE PROPERTY IS OF THE SIZE, DESIGN, CAPACITY AND MANUFACTURER SELECTED BY YOU, IS IN PHYSICAL AND MECHANICAL CONDITION ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, AND IS FIT FOR THE PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND USE YOU REQUIRE. It doesn't appear to me that this policy/disclaimer is any different from what I remember when I was at Plattsburgh AFB. If your going to buy from DRMS that's one of the conditions you agree to.
Robert
Buffalo,#8Consumer Comment
Sun, October 28, 2007
When I was in the military it was called DRMO, and you had to register to be put on an authorized bidder list to bid on items. Times have changed however, what has not appeared to change is the fact that you have to inspect the lots. Back in 1978 (last time I purchased stuff from the base drmo) you were notified that everything was as is and that you agreed that you either inspected the lot or had the opportunity to inspect the lot - in other words, don't trust the lot description. Back then, as a registered bidder, you could have a computer listing of the various auctions mailed to you. Now we have the internet. This is how it was back then, and now. Here's the statement from their website: ""ACCEPTANCE OF PURCHASED PROPERTY "AS IS"; DISCLAIMERS, WAIVERS AND INDEMNITY: 37. YOUR PURCHASE OF OR PLACEMENT OF A BID ON THE PROPERTY CONSTITUTES ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROPERTY AS IS AND IN A USED CONDITION. "ACCEPTANCE" AS USED HERE ALSO MEANS THAT, BY PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY, YOU WILL BE DEEMED TO HAVE EXAMINED, OR HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE, THE PROPERTY AND AGREED THAT THE PROPERTY IS OF THE SIZE, DESIGN, CAPACITY AND MANUFACTURER SELECTED BY YOU, IS IN PHYSICAL AND MECHANICAL CONDITION ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, AND IS FIT FOR THE PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND USE YOU REQUIRE. It doesn't appear to me that this policy/disclaimer is any different from what I remember when I was at Plattsburgh AFB. If your going to buy from DRMS that's one of the conditions you agree to.
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Oshkosh,#9Author of original report
Sat, October 27, 2007
In addition, I would also like to state that the aforementioned auction in Columbus, Ohio contained (18) Cardboard tri-wall boxes 4'X4'X4' in dimension, it took a 24' truck packed to the roof and to the sliding door, to remove it all. Many of the tri-wall boxes contained broken items that were not on the original inventory, GL was using the bidder to remove their garbage. It was a take it all, or nothing situation. I now have had to dispose of a ton of useless trash at my own expense. If you have ever been to a GL site, located on an active military installation. You immediately see how accountability for the items to be bid on, and those that have been won through on-line auction are up for grabs by just about anyone. Security, non-existent, accountabilty is swept away by the fact that GL states that Government inventory lists are not reliable. Misrepresentations are an everyday occurance. Govliquidation.com has a contract with the U.S. Government's DRMO to auction off to the general public items no longer needed by whatever government agency they came from. In response to the "silly" comment, if it gets to the stage where the court decides that a class action suit is warranted. It won't be so "Silly" will it? In the meanwhile. I am communicating with the Inspector General's Office, as well as other government agencies. Seems they don't think its so "Silly" either. When the court's tell me that I have no case, I will accept their decision, until then, I will continue to shed light on GL and its operational tactics. My case is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, other situations, as voiced here in this forum and other places on the internet exist. As well as those individuals who believe GL's banter, that they have no legal recourse. The possibility of criminal action also exists under the RICO Act. For those of you not familiar with the RICO Act, visit (((redacted ))). I think it fits nicely, we'll see, won't we. I, as a U.S. taxpayer have a right to know what kind of oversight exists for this lucrative shell game. CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
Kathy
Florissant,#10Consumer Comment
Sat, October 27, 2007
Susan, Wouldn't you at least expect to recieve what they stated you were bidding on?????
Susan
This City,#11Consumer Comment
Fri, October 26, 2007
Government Liquidation has nothing to do with the real Government. When the government sells things it is on a .gov site or a state site. Big clue is they call themselves Government Liquidation, LLC. The goverment wouldnt need to be an LLC to sell used things. From the letter they sent you, they covered themselves and you lost unless you can proove the terms said different when you bought from them Their letter says " "Acceptance" as used here also means that by the purchase of the property, the buyer will be deemed to have physically examined the property in person. All bids placed in the absence of a physical examination are done so at the buyers own risk. " You bid without seeing so it was at your own risk.
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Oshkosh,#12Author of original report
Fri, October 26, 2007
I am actively pursuing a Class Action Lawsuit against Government Liquidation and its parent organization, Liquidity Services. The time has come to deal with this issue. Too many decent people have been taken advantage of, believing they have little or no recourse. If we pull together, we can get action and maybe some justice. I will be starting a blog to solicit other complaints about Liquidity Services and its subsidiaries. When I have the blog setup, I will post the address on this site. Thank you. PS, Don't be bullied by them or their on-line agreement. Theft is theft and fraud is fraud. Whether its in New York, Oshkosh or Arizona!