Dave
Jacksonville,#2Consumer Comment
Wed, April 19, 2006
Sorry Buddy, but you lost all credibilty with that last comment. 4 to 5K over sticker for an Opel GT? Get real... The car didn't cost that much to begin with. In 1969, the Corvette Stingray, with a 427/390 horsepower motor, a three-speed transmission, had an MSRP of $4,781. The 1969 Opel GT had a base of $3395, with a $99 engine upgrade option. NO WAY IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH did you ever get 4 to 5K over sticker!!! That is just an out and out lie. Now, I buy/restore/sell classic cars as a hobby and am quite well-versed in this area. Don't be saying stuff you can't back up. As far as the OP goes, it's way too late to do anything about it, the dealer has already placed the updated 'dealer price' on the car. But, if you got crystal clear pictures of every window on the car, you might have a shot. However, if I were you, I would go somewhere else to buy anyway. They sound like a bunch of sleezebags.
Dave
Jacksonville,#3Consumer Comment
Wed, April 19, 2006
Sorry Buddy, but you lost all credibilty with that last comment. 4 to 5K over sticker for an Opel GT? Get real... The car didn't cost that much to begin with. In 1969, the Corvette Stingray, with a 427/390 horsepower motor, a three-speed transmission, had an MSRP of $4,781. The 1969 Opel GT had a base of $3395, with a $99 engine upgrade option. NO WAY IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH did you ever get 4 to 5K over sticker!!! That is just an out and out lie. Now, I buy/restore/sell classic cars as a hobby and am quite well-versed in this area. Don't be saying stuff you can't back up. As far as the OP goes, it's way too late to do anything about it, the dealer has already placed the updated 'dealer price' on the car. But, if you got crystal clear pictures of every window on the car, you might have a shot. However, if I were you, I would go somewhere else to buy anyway. They sound like a bunch of sleezebags.
Dave
Jacksonville,#4Consumer Comment
Wed, April 19, 2006
Sorry Buddy, but you lost all credibilty with that last comment. 4 to 5K over sticker for an Opel GT? Get real... The car didn't cost that much to begin with. In 1969, the Corvette Stingray, with a 427/390 horsepower motor, a three-speed transmission, had an MSRP of $4,781. The 1969 Opel GT had a base of $3395, with a $99 engine upgrade option. NO WAY IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH did you ever get 4 to 5K over sticker!!! That is just an out and out lie. Now, I buy/restore/sell classic cars as a hobby and am quite well-versed in this area. Don't be saying stuff you can't back up. As far as the OP goes, it's way too late to do anything about it, the dealer has already placed the updated 'dealer price' on the car. But, if you got crystal clear pictures of every window on the car, you might have a shot. However, if I were you, I would go somewhere else to buy anyway. They sound like a bunch of sleezebags.
Dave
Jacksonville,#5Consumer Comment
Wed, April 19, 2006
Sorry Buddy, but you lost all credibilty with that last comment. 4 to 5K over sticker for an Opel GT? Get real... The car didn't cost that much to begin with. In 1969, the Corvette Stingray, with a 427/390 horsepower motor, a three-speed transmission, had an MSRP of $4,781. The 1969 Opel GT had a base of $3395, with a $99 engine upgrade option. NO WAY IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH did you ever get 4 to 5K over sticker!!! That is just an out and out lie. Now, I buy/restore/sell classic cars as a hobby and am quite well-versed in this area. Don't be saying stuff you can't back up. As far as the OP goes, it's way too late to do anything about it, the dealer has already placed the updated 'dealer price' on the car. But, if you got crystal clear pictures of every window on the car, you might have a shot. However, if I were you, I would go somewhere else to buy anyway. They sound like a bunch of sleezebags.
Philippe
bixby,#6Author of original report
Wed, April 19, 2006
Window Sticker -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JIM GLOVER CHEVROLET 8130 E SKELLY DR TULSA, OK 74129-3410 Phone: (918) 663-2300 Fax: (918) 663-28652006 Corvette Z06 Coupe 7.0 LITER SFI V8 - 505 HP 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION VELOCITY YELLOW TINT COAT BLACK INTERIOR TRIM VIN: 1G1YY26E165123076 MANUFACTURER'S SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE $64,890.00 STANDARD VEHICLE PRICE Options installed by Manufacturer FRONT LICENSE PLATE BRACKET NO CHARGE PREMIUM PAINT $ 750.00 TIRE REAR P325/30ZR19 BW NO CHARGE Z06 POLISHED ALUMINUM WHEELS $ 1,295.00 FRONT TIRE - P275/35ZR18 NO CHARGE ******************************* NO CHARGE 2LZ PREFERRED EQUIPMENT GROUP UNIVERSAL HOME REMOTE MEMORY PACKAGE AUTO DIMMING ISRV MIRROR W/COMPASS & DRIVER OSRV MIRROR HEATED SEATS RDS AM/FM STEREO W/6-DISC IN DASH CD W/MP3 PLAYBACK, BOSE PREMIUM 7 SPEAKER SYSTEM XM SATELLITE RADIO - SERVICE FEE EXTRA. 1ST 3 MONTHS INCL. (REPLACES STD/OPT/PKG RADIO) PWR TELESCOPING STEERING WHEEL AIR BAGS, FRONTAL & SIDE IMPACT, DRIVER & PASSENGER LUGGAGE SHADE & PARCEL NET $ 2,900.00 REAR AXLE 3.42 RATIO NO CHARGE AM/FM CD WITH DVD NAVIGATION, INCLUDES TWO FREE MAP UPDATES (REPLACES 6-DISC IN DASH CD W/SINGLE DISC CD) $ 1,600.00 $6,545.00 TOTAL OPTIONS $71,435.00 TOTAL VEHICLE & OPTIONS $800.00 DESTINATION CHARGE $72,235.00 TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STANDARD EQUIPMENT Items Featured Below are included at NO EXTRA CHARGE in the Standard Vehicle Price Shown at Right ***MECHANICAL*** LS7 7.0 LITER 505HP ENGINE DRY SUMP OIL SYSTEM 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION ACTIVE HANDLING TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM 4 WHL INDEPENDENT SUSPENSION POWER SPEED SENSITIVE RACK AND PINION STEERING LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL ALUMINUM 10 SPOKE WHEELS EXTENDED MOBILITY TIRES W/ TIRE PRESSURE MONITOR SYSTEM OIL LIFE MONITORING SYSTEM OIL, TRANS & AXLE COOLERS ALUMINUM FRAME STRUCTURE DUAL MODE 3 INCH EXHAUST ***SAFETY & SECURITY*** DRIVER/FRONT PASS. AIRBAGS KEYLESS ACCESS WITH PUSH BUTTON START THEFT DETERRENT SYS & ALARM POWER 4-WHEEL ANTI-LOCK DISC 6PISTON FRT 4PISTON RR BRAKES ***EXTERIOR*** POWER HEATED OUTSIDE MIRRORS CARBON FIBER FENDERS HID XENON HEADLAMPS FOG & DAYTIME RUNNING LAMPS ***INTERIOR*** AM/FM STEREO CD W/RDS & MP3 DUAL ZONE, ELECTRONIC A/C DRIVER INFORMATION CENTER CRUISE CONTROL WITH RESUME INTERMITTENT WIPER SYSTEM LEATHER SEATING SURFACES 6 WAY POWER DRIVER SEAT TILT LEATHER WRAP STNG WHEEL POWER DOOR LOCKS & WINDOWS ELEC. REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER REMOTE HATCH & FUEL DR RLSE HEAD-UP DISPLAY
Philippe
bixby,#7Author of original report
Wed, April 19, 2006
I seriously need to know about that sticker price and all legals ties to this. I am so upset that I am willing to put them to court anyway. I take a picture of the sticker with my cell phone and there is nothing else than MSRP on it. Just for the fun...was the first time in my life a salesperson gives me an used business card, all riped and with black finger prints on it. Talking about Jim Glover one of my friend bought a car over there 2 years ago, following a TV advertising. When she walk in, of course they don't have that specific car at that price. She insists and they show her a car all covered with paint advertising from bumper to bumper, a dark blue paint on a orange metalic color. Funny... Conclusion, if you are in the need for a new car, stay away from Jim Glover Chevrolet, after all, there are maybe some honest car dealers in the area. I have family owning a magasine, we are certainly going to do some free advertising for Chevrolet pretty soon
Buddy
Eureka,#8Consumer Suggestion
Wed, April 19, 2006
I was responding to the o.p. who said that the "sticker" price was the maximum a dealer could charge for a car. We don't know that the actual selling price wasn't on the car, maybe the o.p. was just focused on the msrp and thought that's all he had to pay. I said it should have been, and perhaps the o.p. just didn't see it. There is no law against selling a car for more than the MSRP. My first job was at a Buick dealership back in the late 1960's when Buick carried Opel cars. Opel came out with a GT model, that was like a smaller Corvette. We could not keep them in stock, and regularly got $4000 to $5000 over "sticker" for them.
Dave
Jacksonville,#9Consumer Comment
Wed, April 19, 2006
If there is no markup sticker on the car, the dealership must sell the car for msrp. They cannot legally decide to markup a car after they get a buyer. If the markup sticker was there before the OP looked at the car, then too bad for him. But if the salesman just decided to mark it up over msrp for s###s and grins, then that is another story. The dealership does have a legal obligation to sell that particular car for the sticker price. Too bad for them for not getting that markup put on the car in time.
Buddy
Eureka,#10Consumer Suggestion
Wed, April 19, 2006
The "sticker" price is the MSRP or "Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price". Many people expect to buy cars for much less than the MSRP, but there is no law against a dealership selling the car for more than then MSRP. Unfortunately for the dealer, the MSRP sticker has to be on an automobile, but the dealership can sell it for whatever they wish to. However, the actual price should have been on the car. Someone will come along and pay the $98,000 for the car if they want it badly enough, and that is what the dealership is counting on.