I have a home warranty service with American Home Shield (AHS) and they selected The Lindsay Company (16536 Mueschke Rd, Cypress, Texas 77433) to replace my water heater. Lindsay came by on 6 December 2013, removed all the piping, etc., on the old, failed tank and tried to install the new one. Unfortunately, the new one would not go through the attic opening. In fact, neither would the old one so it could be removed.
As I have 2 water heaters, Lindsay repiped to bypass the failed one, giving us hot water while I resolved the access issue.
Lindsay returned on 11 December 2013, successfully installed the new water heater and removed the old one. Dustin, the lead tech, presented me with a bill for $365, a surprise to me.
My wife had talked with AHS to set up the appointment and the rep there said there might be some additional charges not covered under the home warranty to bring things up to code or provide access.
My wife relayed this information to me and, given the house was built in 2004, I did not expect there to be any code violations, so was not concerned.
I asked Dustin, the lead Lindsay tech, if any of the line items would be required to come up to code and he said 'no, those are just for installation'. It was a couple of flex pipes, a gas pipe nipple and a couple feet of PVC. Pretty high cost for that.
I told Dustin I needed to call AHS to confirm that I needed to pay the $365. He immediately started in on me that he is a working man, he makes no money doing work for AHS, etc. The words and tone were clearly not in the same frame as a congenial conversation and it was apparent to me that he was attempting to intimidate me.
I acknowledged his statement and again asked that he let me call AHS to straighten things out.
Dustin spouted off that he didn't have time to wait around, he is a busy man, etc.
Given that a simple phone call could have solved the issue and that Dustin was adamantly opposed to letting me do that, I truly thought there was some sort of con job going on.
In the end I asked what Dustin would suggest and he said, well, I'll just take it back out. Words and tone were again aggressive. I told him to go ahead.
Now, consider things from my perspective for a moment. I really needed the water heater installed. It was not in my best interest to have it removed after it had been installed. My experience is that consumers are ripe for con men when they are in dire straits so, as a senior citizen, I am on guard. This situation appeared to be a classic case of Dustin having me over a barrel, pushing for a rapid decision and attempting to intimidate.
In particular, Dustin was resisting my calling AHS due to how busy he was. And yet, he was willing to put in another unpaid 45 minutes removing the new water heater. For me, nothing was making sense in this encounter. I had the sense that there was something underhanded going on here given his refusal to let me make a simple call and instead take time to remove the new water heater.
I took this case through the BBB. There are a few areas in the BBB Standard for Trust where I see Lindsay coming up short:
Here is where things stand from my perspective:
This is all about extremely poor customer service, abusive and juvenile behavior coupled with a total lack of patience and compassion. The end result was increased cost to the consumer.
The BBB complaint was closed as unresolved as the only compensation Lindsay was willing to provide was $100. A similar result occurred when I reported this company through Angie's List. While I appreciate that Lindsay is at least making a legitimate offer of action, it is insufficient. Lindsay can pay the following to reconcile this issue:
Total: $1500
J. A. Higgs
Katy,#2Author of original report
Sun, February 23, 2014
Let's take it one item at a time:
"The customer had a water heater that would not fit out of the access hole provided when the home was built. Some modifications to the new water heater would have to be made. These items were not covered under the warranty."
Completely off the point. Poor treatment by Dustin, his adament refusal to give me a little time to talk to the insurance company, his stealing parts from my system and your failure to follow through on repairing the damage to my ceiling are the salient points.
"The warranty company advised customer of the non-covered charges. The new water heater was installed and in operation. The customer was presented the bill and acted as if he did not know of any non-covered charges. At this time he refused to pay for the installation of the new hot water heater. The Lindsay Company removed water heater and all items paid for by The Lindsay Company."
As I've mentioned more times than I can count, I never refused payment. I did express reluctance as I was surprised by the size of the bill. Not only did Lindsay remove the water heater and all items paid for by The Lindsay Company, Dustin stole the parts from my old system so I had to replace them. Lindsay also put a gaping hole in my ceiling and while promising much, has so far failed to repair that hole.
"The customer wanted the warranty company to cover charges that had already been given as non-covered. If the $365 was paid after services rendered the customer would have had hot water and would not have to pay $1000 for water heater to be re installed."
True. However, given the beligerant behavior on Dustin's part and the refusal to allow time to discuss the issue with the insurance company, my belief was that this was a simple case of fraud and a con job. Whether true or not, that's what the situation felt like at the time.
Matt
Cyprss,#3REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, February 13, 2014
The customer had a water heater that would not fit out of the access hole provided when the home was built. Some modifications to the new water heater would have to be made. These items were not covered under the warranty. The warranty company advised customer of the non-covered charges. The new water heater was installed and in operation. The customer was presented the bill and acted as if he did not know of any non-covered charges. At this time he refused to pay for the installation of the new hot water heater. The Lindsay Company removed water heater and all items paid for by The Lindsay Company. The customer wanted the warranty company to cover charges that had already been given as non-covered. If the $365 was paid after services rendered the customer would have had hot water and would not have to pay $1000 for water heater to be re installed. My wife had talked with AHS to set up the appointment and the rep there said there might be some additional charges not covered under the home warranty to bring things up to code or provide access.