Complaint Review: living world tech - Internet

 Date: 2/25/2016 @ 9:55am Living World Technologies, Crystalbend Hosting, TX PC Repair and others. Check out their web site; most of the links do not work. Is this your example of fine work? There is also a Yelp review out there folks, check it out. It is listed as not recommended, but I recommend it. The man I spoke with said he was Craig, but I believe it could have been Chris Miska, the one everyone else has been complaining about. On my internet search I found his name where others had complained about their treatment. I can't prove it, so don't take it as necessarily true; that is just my opinion and the opinion of others. But it is in their system and can be retrieved by the authorities if necessary. You must be aware if you contact them and don't act or give the information they request; then you could be threatened like I was, or they will invade your personal information; like they clearly did with me. Well, just read it. I could say SOOOOO much more, but you should judge for yourselfs... Craig Chat Agent Hello, my name is Craig. I can help you today. 9:55am Me: where can I find more information on the owners/partners of this business? 09:55am Craig: Who may I ask is this? 09:57am Me: Someone interested in possibly doing business. 09:59am If I can get your name, I can create a ticket for you and have it flagged to upper management. But that's the most I can do. 10:00am Craig: But aside from that, if your interested in doing business, you would talk to me, not the owners, I do sales. 10:00am Craig: The owners doing usually deal with day to day simple tasks like sales. 10:01am Me: If you can't simply give information about the owners and the business why would I even do business with. I want to know who I'm dealing with before I do anything with anyone. I'm sure you understand that people do research first before talking business. 10:01am Me: They're not the only company I'm looking at. Is there a site with general information? 10:02am Craig:Uhmm, we do simple website design and web solutions, so not sure what the owners/partners would have anything to do with that. Do you know the owners of your mobile service provider? Or your cable TV company? I sure don't. 10:02am Craig:Heck, I even worked at a call center as an employee for a phone company, and none of us had any idea who owned it. All I have is a manager. 10:03am Me: I'm one of those people who likes to know who I"m dealing with. Besides this company is not AT&T or a call center. They provide a service right? I personally know the people I've worked for. If the company isn't willing to provide basic information then I don't see them as a viable company to hire. Please give me their phone number and address. 10:06am Craig: Well, just like your wanting information, I can't just go giving out information without knowing who I'm giving it to. And, as I'm just a lowly staff person, that's not even something I have access to anyhow. If you email[email protected] // with your name, phone number, and address, I'm sure they would be more then happy to provide you with the information your reqesting. 10:07am Me: You don't have the phone number and address to the company you work for? Look, I'm the potential customer here. It is standard to provide phone number and address. 10:08am Craig: Well, firstly, the phone number to the company I work for is posted on the top of our website on every page. Secondly, when you call that, it rings the phone in the call center that we all work in, so if you called it, you'd just be routed right back to someone like me anyhow. Thirdly, no, it is not standard practice to hand out privately protected information by Texas State law without knowing who it is that's giving that information. 10:10am Me: Most people don't talk to a customer like this. It is more important for me to know who you are if I'm going to give you my business. 10:10am Craig: And then you still have to make that request by mail, as written by Law. 10:10am Me: It isn't law that is something you're making up. I have a business and I wasn't born yesterday. 10:10am Craig: You are not a customer, I have no idea who you are, and we are now allowed to give out ANY sensative information until we verify identity as required by Law. Me: It is not required by law. Look it up. 10:11am Craig: Well, you think what you'd like to, I am not going to get fired just because your a "supposed" customer. You could be a thief from India. 10:11am Craig: I have no idea of knowing who you are. 10:12am Me: I'm a potential customer. You know business brings in money. 10:12am Craig: Trust me, I know Texas privacy law VERY well, my mother practices that field, as does my uncle and 2 of my cousins. None of them shut up about it, as much as it annoys me, trust me, I know. 10:12am Craig: Good for you, Texas law states we can deny service to any person for any reason at any time, and unless your already a customer, then your can't be one. 10:13am Me: I told you that I'm a potential customer, that is why I'm inquiring about the company and it's owners. 10:13 am Craig: You could be interested in becoming one, but then again, just like with almost all other hosting companies, it's a fully automated process now, which would require no need for any type of information other then, what you get and how much it costs, which is clearly displayed in our product ordering system. 10:14am Craig: And I told you what you needed to do to get that information, as I don't have it, or have access to it. If you choose not to follow the procedure, that's on you. 10:14am Me: I want to know who I'm dealing with and I have a right to know if I'm going to be a customer. 10:14am Craig: yes you do have the right to know once you ARE a customer. Your right there, and if you want to know BEFORE your a customer, you have to follow our company procedure. Otherwise, if you don't want to be a customer, don't be a customer. 10:15am Craig: You need to email [email protected] // 10:15am Craig: If you'd like to place an order I can help you with that. 10:16am Craig: Otherwise I'll need to end this chat, as we get reviewed on performance. 10:17am Me: Nothing personal Craig, but the way your company treats potential customers, and telling them they have no right to know who they're dealing with until they're a customer is a little backwards. No thanks I'm going elsewhere. 10:18am Craig: That's not what I said, you didn't read correctly, I never said you didn't have the right to know before you where a customer, I told you I didn't have that information, and where to get it. You malfomed my responses to put that together in your own head. 10:18am Craig: You are not a potential customer 10:19am Craig: You are nothing more then an anonimous criminal as far as I know. 10:19am Craig: Until you identify who you are, and I can verify that identiy, you are not a person. 10:20am Craig: Nor a "potential customer" 10:20am Me: Who talks to a potential customer like that? I'm not going to do business with you because of the way you are talking to me. 10:20am Craig: So, you have 3 choices, either email management, verify who you are with me, or kindly go screw yourself. 10:21am Craig: YOU ARE NOT A POTENTIAL CUSTOMER! 10:21am Craig: No one can be until they identify themselves. 10:21am Craig: PERIOD. 10:21am Craig: And do realize, your proxies, do no good, we can easily trace connecting IP's. 10:22am Me: Go ahead and invade my privacy. 10:22am Craig: If your connecting to a public network, its recorded, just like your ISP records it. 10:23am Craig: Your wanting me to invade someone elses privacy for you, but you say that, that's hilarious. 10:23am Craig: I do apologize, but if your not going to place an order, I have to end this chat. 10:24am Craig: Your obviously not, nor where you from the start a "potential customer" 10:24am Craig: So, you have 3 choices, either email management, verify who you are with me, or kindly go screw yourself. 10:21 am Craig: And do realize, your proxies, do no good, we can easily trace connecting IP's. 10:22am Craig: Your wanting me to invade someone elses privacy for you, but you say that, that's hilarious. 10:23am Craig: And I do not have time to help time wasters, criminals, or any other general undesirable. Which until you identify yourself, includes you. So, I will be ending this chat now, and reporting your IP to the security team for suspicious activity. Have a good day. 10:25am Craig: I'm sure comcast will be pleased to find another idenfity thief. So we'll be reporting this to them. 10:26am Me: Wanting to know about a company is not an invasion of privacy. This conversation has ended. And who threatens a customer to invade their privacy. Your company is bad news, and I'm going to spread the word. I was a potential customer who is no longer a potential customer. 10:26am Craig: I never threatened to invade your privacy there who ever you are, you really don't know how to read English do you? 10:26am Craig: When you connect to a bank website, they track your IP, as does EVERY ISP, which we are We have to be law you friggen idiot, so the feds and cops can track down identify thiefs, like you obviously are, connecting from Denver colardo comcast internet. 10:27am Me: But you're NOT MY ISP provider. So I can see that you are invading my privacy. 10:27am Craig: I don't have to be YOUR ISP provider 10:28am Craig: OMG, do you not know anything about telecommunications laws. 10:28am Craig: Geeze. You really think the USA would just let random people, especially people like who ever you are connect to the internet if they couldn't control and track what they do? 10:28am Craig: I don't have to be YOUR ISP provider 10:28am Craig: OMG, do you not know anything about telecommunications laws. 10:28am Craig: Geeze. You really think the USA would just let random people, especially people like who ever you are connect to the internet if they couldn't control and track what they do? 10:28am Me: I Never said I did. This conversation is ending now, and I will be reporting you for your behavior and treatment of me. Thank you. 10:30am Me: I did nothing wrong other then what EVERY other online chat support agent for EVERY other hosting company out there does, protect it from identify thieves like you. 10:30am Craig: You never once identified yourself, so there's nothing to "report" Craig: I'm ending this chat due to potential identify theft and am reporting this IP address to the authorities and to comcast, as well as my manager. 10:32am Craig: good bye 10:32am Me: Bye Bye 10:32am Me: I have copied and pasted this post to somewhere to save it. If I get contacted by anyone due to your false accusations I will sue you. I simply called to get basic information about the company.10:33am Craig: All our chats are recorded thru official means, so only our transcripts will be considered legit. Copy and pasted methods don't mean a thing. And I never made any accusations. You need to learn and understand english.10:34am Craig: What exactly where you accused off?10:34am Craig: Anyhow, is this some sort of joke?10:34am Craig: lol, some interesting things to when you search for you on the internet, hilarious. 10:36am Me: I have it on record that you are invading my privacy and looking me up on the internet. I was a potential customer and this you treat someone.10:37am Craig: lol, researching the internet is not invading your privacy, are you smoking crack?10:37am Craig: IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO GOOGLE, holy crap, are you an idiot?10:37am Craig: Your hilarious jordon.10:37http://www.zcar.com/forum/15-cars-sale-1970-83-240z-260z-280z-280zx/339649-1972-240z-colorado.html10:40am Craig: When you google your IP address, you find all the other places that who ever this is has posted to.10:40am Craig: Which then yields a posted by mark, as with any post, it's not really all that difficult. Even my 10 year old knows how to google an IP address, it's obvious that who ever connects from this IP and that email, is a huge nascar nut, which really answers every question we have here, lol.10:41am Craig: Your obviously some redneck nascar nut from colardo, either 1) hired by Toni, or 2)This is toni, and you wasted more money flying there, just to send this message, either way, the whole situation is all over every ISP internet security threat message board out there.10:41am Craig: This IP, the back story, the scam, and every other part of it. And this is also called a free country, I can say as I please as long as I never threaten to or actually commit any crime, which I didn't, so if you don't like it, that means you hate america.10:42am Craig: And that's just down right unpatriotic. Me: I'm not Jordon you idiot. You are some crazy person this company should have never hired. They are losing business because of you. I was a potential customer. But no more. Who is this Toni person you're talking about? I'm outta here. 10:44am Craig: Oh, I bring this company 10 times more money then any other 2 employees put together, so I'm not worried. 10:45am Craig: And you may not be, but that's who this IP is registered to, and with that, it's enough for the cops to pin point exactly where on the ComCast grid you are. It's not too difficult. 10:46am Craig: And if it comes back that it is related to any sensitive current investigation, anything and everything having to do with it I'm sure will be confiscated for partifipating.10:46am Me: Go ahead, I'll show them this email and have you arrested for false reporting. 10:46am Craig: False reporting what exactly? 10:47am Craig: You can't "show a cop some email you printed out" and have someone arrested, lol, you really are on crack arn't you? 10:47am Me: Identity theft or whatever else you wish to accuse me of. I am an upstanding person in my community and don't wish to deal with low lives who threaten people who ask questions about their company. 10:48am Craig: I never accused you of anything, I said, "FOR ALL I KNOW YOU COULD BE" an identify thief, I have no way of telling until you identify for yourself. No d**n where in that statement do I accuse you of anything. 10:49am Craig: You really need to learn how to read, it's obvious, as a redneck, you don't understand the meaning of big words, but, I don't think I could express myself monosyllabically enough for you to understand what it was I was saying.10:50am Me: You have said that I'm and identity thief, associated with someone I don't even know, and now accuse me of being on crack. Go back and read what you wrote. I also now have YOUR URL and source information. Thank you very much. 10:51am Craig: My URL and source information?!?!?! lol 10:51am Craig: What did you do, google the wrong big words? 10:51am Craig: what is "source information" and my "url" 10:51am You don't even understand the proper terms in regards to look for, and hello there captain obvious, we run a business, in Texas, we pay our taxes, and follow the law. Trust me, when your paying the amount of sales tax we are, the government and anyone who matters knows exactly where the business and every single person related to it live, and where they are, nearly in real time.10:52 Me: I KNOW... :-)10:53 Craig: And since we pay more taxes, they are going to ensure everything stays running smoothly and people don't rip us off, or try to obtain sensative data. 10:54am Me: You're not the only one that pays taxes... :-) 10:55am Craig: And trust me, the "how do I identify my computer online" that you googled, you looked at the wrong terms there genious. 10:55am Me: You have no idea who you're talking to.... I know all about computers and urls too. You assume I'm an idiot.10:56am Craig: urls, 10:56am Craig: lol 10:56am Craig: urls are for websites, not for network communication, or IP traffic genious. 10:56am Craig: OMG, you just clearly have no idea. 10:57am Craig: lol, your a joke dude. 10:57am Craig: They are called IP's, IP's, short for Internet Protocol '10:57am Craig: It's a number, not URL. Craig: Okay ma'am. Do yourself a favor, take your Windows 7 computer, close your chrome browser, unplug the device, put it back in the box, and take it back. It's far too advanced for you to figure out. go back and stick to buying and selling car parts. 10:59am Craig: I know that too.. lol, you crack me up, what are you 10? 10:59am Craig: You expect me to give you info when you won't identify yourself, seriously?11:00am Craig:That's like the definition of stupidity. 11:00am Me: Okay I have enough information from you now, actually a lot of information on how you treat potential customers and I'm gonna post it everywhere I can. You have crossed the line. In fact I might report you for knowingly invasion of my privacy. Me: I have it all right here in writing. 11:02am Craig: See, and there you lie, you CAN NOT under any law become a potential customer until you identify yourself. So, even as far as company record is concerned, nothing happens until YOU identify yourself. 11:02 am Me: As a business owner myself I know the laws. Sorry... 11:02am Me: I'm also not a liar. Who talks to people like that? Craig: You don't own any business, if you did, you'd identify yourself.11:03am Craig: And you live in Colorado, and Texas Law supercedes Colorado's, that's why we can extradite you here, but you can't extradite crap to there.11:04am Craig: Texas law states, you DO NOT have to do business with ANY person or entity, AND CAN NOT until they identify themeselves thru legal means.11:04am Craig: Because we operate an electronic based business.11:05am Craig: And yeah, running a tampon stand does not count as a business. 11:05am Me: I'm not currently a customer I was looking for information to be a potential customer. I don't have to give you my name if I choose not to. So I'm out of here. This is some really good material for people who want to do business with you. Plus your latent lack of respect for someone. I never told you I was male or female either. End of conversation. 11:07am Craig: Yeah, maybe in your p***y as state of colorado, but in Texas, we do grown up business, and follow grown up laws. And YES, you do have to identify yourself in Texas now, or anytime your trying to get services or buy something from Texas, it's the law.

 They have posted a Rip Off Report about my business and are accusing me of writing YOUR Rip Off Report. Please contact me through my business Bluelips. We need to join forces.

You can really see how unprofessional this 'business' is by these rebuttals.

Living World Tech, who has continued to harrass me and make false accusations, and not return my money, and has the audacity to try and bill me for more. If you really did create a website, or anything, post a link! The case will be settled, the world will see what you did (or didn't do), and I'll remove my complaint and dispute.

simple fix.

post a link to the website you created for my business

Wow man, you must really be hurting, if you knew how to research properly, you'd know that crystal bend hosting is what we USED to be, before we started offering other services, and with a new business partner joining in as owners, we all thought it appropriate to come up with a better name since we offered more then just hosting.  We know your not the brightest bulb in the box there buddy, and if you had half a brain you'd research fully all online and freely available to the public of course.  Your a dead beat customer who won't pay their bill, pure and simple.  Own it, don't choke it, because these so called "responses" your making, not only have no merit, you don't even bother fully researching the subject before you start flabbing your mouth.  Pay your bill and quite ripping off honest small businesses.  Your stealing money and food out of staff's family that have children you know.

So, I think it's pretty rediculous that he made up all these lies.  I 100% completed this website for this customer, completing every bit of work.  When the customer found out he was going to get charged a monthly fee for the merchant gateway, he got all pissed off and then wanted a refund from ME!  What the heck, it's like industry standard.  That's rediculous.  So I spent WAYY more time on this site then we even charged for.  I'm sorry, but if your car stops running, and you pay someone to replace the gas tank, and they do, and the car still doesn't start, YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR YOUR FRIGGEN BILL FOR THE PUTTING IN OF THE CAR TANK!

seems this company has started another 'company', which is called CrystalBend Hosting, and their address is in the Austin Texas area. The address is 123 Somewhere St. Really?

Do your homework everyone before you hand over any money to any company, but know this, Living World Tech and Crystal Bend Hosting are the same operation and is a scam.