Complaint Review: Mesa Police Department - Mesa Arizona

Do not be foolish! These overpaid stiffs come to your door, late, if at all, as nothing more than a coat of coverup paint. High quality officers don't last long in Mesa, if they have a conscience. Better to pump a few bullets into a child with a knife and be forgiven by Mormon Rick Romley than to do something unforgiveable, such as tell the truth.

Do not be foolish! These overpaid stiffs come to your door, late, if at all, as nothing more than a coat of coverup paint. High quality officers don't last long in Mesa, if they have a conscience. Better to pump a few bullets into a child with a knife and be forgiven by Mormon Rick Romley than to do something unforgiveable, such as tell the truth.

Do not be foolish! These overpaid stiffs come to your door, late, if at all, as nothing more than a coat of coverup paint. High quality officers don't last long in Mesa, if they have a conscience. Better to pump a few bullets into a child with a knife and be forgiven by Mormon Rick Romley than to do something unforgiveable, such as tell the truth.

Do not be foolish! These overpaid stiffs come to your door, late, if at all, as nothing more than a coat of coverup paint. High quality officers don't last long in Mesa, if they have a conscience. Better to pump a few bullets into a child with a knife and be forgiven by Mormon Rick Romley than to do something unforgiveable, such as tell the truth.

Hey, this is ALL true. But this is a town where NOBODY votes but the local LDS community, because THEY care... Want to know why it is this way? See the above. These b---------s need to be in prison, themselves, but nothing will happen until the present criminals are turned out of office. Now, there ARE "civil servants" like Hutchinson and Donna and lots of cops whose heads need to be on a lawful chopping block. But none of the turds elected in this crummy town will EVER do anything about that.

It's all about money in Mesa. Well, money and the "temple connection", although the Mormon influence in the direct sense is on the decline. Thing is, all this crime and meth and crack cocaine, and this is a department which regularly kills people at the drop of a hat because they are "afraid"...and then they brag about it! They seem to have no idea what the slavery and drug things are about in the Stapley/Main area, and for miles in each direction, it's easier to buy drugs than to find a decent glass of water. They have effectively abandoned the Main Street corridor, and lots of the rest of the town, albeit whether through ignorance, neglect, or just stupidity I do not know. I DO know this city's administrators (especially the city manager and his toads and flunkies), the past couple police chiefs, and the department and the prosecutors have plenty of all 3 attributes. And apparently, the decision has been made not to waste manpower (or even to have cops get out of cars) in areas not peopled by the "annointed ones"... that means those who have plenty of money. Cowardice is the main driving force on the police department. They are "afraid"... sure as hell not of serious, hard core criminals, as nearly as you and I can tell from years of observation, they have NO contact with actual professional criminals, who are legion in this town. Your experience is by no means unique. It is typical.

It's really funny that someone wrote in about the drug dealers working for the police (or the other way around) A few months ago I had a neighboring apartment selling drugs and they had been doing it for quite a while. After I figured out what was going on I sent in a "Silent Witness" report to the Police. Very strangly, no uniformed policemen ever showed up there, at least none that I saw. But it wasn't a month later that the people in the apartment moved out. Not only that, but one of my cats mysteriously disappeared at just that same time. It was as if someone told them about the silent witness report and from that the drug dealers figured out who told on them. Maybe this was just a coincidence, but after reading about all the corruption in the police department, maybe it wasn't.

Robert: How prophetic! See Mario Madrigal, Junior. I guess, if you are white, they abuse you, and maybe shoot you, if you are brown, they pump you full of bullets in front of your parents. Calling Mesa P.D. for anything, unless you are rich or Mormon, preferably both, is just a waste of time, unless you actually want to be murdered or wait for a couple of days before you give up. Wasn't the Patriot Act set up to deal with terrorist criminals like these? I mean, Osama bin Laden is a "newby". These rats have been at this for over 100 years, and have destroyed vastly more lives with their lies, criminal conduct, framing, railroading, and downright fraud and incompetence. I can tell you this, for sure: We would be better off with no police or judges AT ALL than with the slime buckets we have. I saw a couple of trials here, and they make the Russian show trials look honest. These are terrorists and worse.

Read the data on the Mario Madrigal, Jr., killing. Mesa P.D. usually kills its enemies. Then they investigate themselves, and find, no matter how cowardly, illegal, sniveling, corrupt, or fictional they and their cases are, they did nothing wrong. And then they make a lot of braggart talk about "heroism"... if these are heroes, how the hell does one define gutless cowardice, which is what we ACTUALLY see from these dung-gobs. Point: You are lucky to be alive, and so are these kids. They were white, of course, but so were the two kids they cops murdered on Main because they were "scared"... Try using that excuse some time for something like pushing someone out of your way and these same hypocritical filth will arrest you for aggravated assault, in case you haven't noticed. The last kid they murdered was Mexican, back on 25 August 2003. He was already down when they pumped their .40 caliber bullets into him. Oh, he apparently had a little-bitty knife. And he weighed all of 115 lbs. Anybody over the age of 18 or so could have disarmed him with no damage done. But not these cowardly scum. NO!!! No wonder the chicken shits won't confront the crack and meth dealers and labs which are all over their scurvy, rotten town. Yup. That was justified. Sure. And if you believe that, you are so damned stupid you will believe ANYTHING. Don't confuse these lilly-livered pansies with that old "life on the line" thing, these storm troopers have no intention of even breaking a sweat, let alone to help out a citizen. They just shoot. This ain't the thin blue line; it is about 1300 of the yellowest rats I have ever even heard of, paid entirely too much. We need to cut this force by about 50%, destroy their helos, and bring a few of these scum to justice. Definition of a police state: WHEN THE POLICE ARE MORE OF A THREAT THAN CRIMINALS, OR: Where the Police ARE the criminals. That describes Mesa accurately. Thanks, Robert, your report almost psychically predicted the Madrigal event, albeit no one in Mesa cared enough to do anything about it and start a meaningful purge of these cowardly, incompetent lice.

Robert: Right on! This is how Mesa continually embarrasses itself. Stupid, lowlifes run this town, and these cops--aside from a few who work hard and probably are pretty decent guys--carefully avoid anything dangerous like "crime". Risk their lives? Hell, the don't even break a sweat, especially not dealing with crooks. That whole neighborhood, and a long ways south, west, and east, is a gangrenous wound, and the lack of real enforcement is dimishing life quality and property values. And no one could care less than the city government, who prefers to spend tax money on "longevity pay" and their idiot-a*s "art center"... Crafty and cunning, crooked and rotten, that is what RUNS Mesa. Filthbags of the lowest and most revolting sort! I am leaving this week, forever, and wish I had left ten years sooner. I kept hoping, thinking, foolishly, it HAS to start improving. Well, it got WORSE, and at a rate that was amazing. Don't think for a second this is any kind of accident. Ratbastards like the city managers plan it that way. Makes their job easier. What really baffled me was the stupidity of the local cops. I had a conversation like the one you describe, and used some of the same terms, and the cop had no idea in hell what I was referring to. How anyone can be in that area and not know what a meth factory is or what a coyote is... well, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence. One of the retarded scumbuckets in that very building took offense when I asked him to turn down his filthy sewer music... claimed all sorts of silly-assed things. Guy is a drug dealer, and from the way the cops treated him, apparently they work for him or he for them... He must be at least a snitch. What bozos! Last cops of that quality I saw were on the silver screen, bearing the "KEYSTONE" title! I hasten to add, other than his lying crap about "I pay rent", he really had no direct response. And I didn't even swear. Funny how people can break laws in this shithole concentration camp, and be defended by these useless hunks of dung, while others--trying to get some sleep so they can get to work on time and awake--are given no credence at all. These goofy crackpots fly their stupid helicopters over your head at 4 a.m. and act all puffed up and gloriously righteous...because in their moronic imaginations they are "chasing dangerous felons"... Mesa P.D. and the city government are not a solution to anything. They just more annoying problems. Problems that have to be gotten rid of. But not by me. I am out of this cesspool.

Robert: It is getting much worse. Something vile is being cooked in #102 and I think #101 also, the very same house where you are talking about at 1414 East Dana. East Dana Apartments. I seen the "undercover" jerk also. He was about as undercover as a tank. This is bad drugs. I have for me my friend to send this. This is a terrible place. Coyotes are here. Three drug dealers, I think, and they are manufacture next to that white man. They hate him, and attack him all the time.

Robert: More recently, the bozos who comprise the organization laughingly called the "Mesa Police Department"--I can hardly describe these scum without laughing, they SURELY are not a real law enforcement agency, but I cannot think of any name to call them I could repeat here--trie "undercover" work here, disembarking some fat, repulsive slob with blond hair and a Hawaiian shirt half a dozen times while further idiots in their patrol cars parked across from the Catholic Church. Ain't it amazing this criminal scum didn't find anything, huh? Hilarious!!! I tried to report various major felonies here myself half a dozen times, and the cowards reacted just as you describe. Finally, though, I can leave this cesspool of a town, and this particular overpriced ghetto. Some other police hid on Lazona. Might as well have sent in a brass band. The cocaine and marijuana dealers and the guy on the end who deals in stolen car parts and the coyote crews knew from the get-go this guy was "undercover"... As police departments go, this one ain't even a good clow act. They might as well have sent the Goodyear blimp. I saw this toad. HE WAS THE GOODYEAR BLIMP!!! Drove a Geo Metro. Questioned ME of all people one day. We have our answer: the question is, is Mesa P.D. mainly corrupt, stupid, cowardly, or just incompetent? The answer is resoundingly: ALL OF THE ABOVE. They had solid evidence from a former police officer and a resident, ignored it, sent in their own sack of mud idiot, and got nothing. Now they can declare the community safer! These jerks need to get red rubber noses and clown horns. Two days after the "operation" ended, a new drug dealer moved in. Congratulations, you parasitic drips with Mesa P.D., on another moronic operation, done with your usual lack of sense and ridiculous resources. This community would be better off with NO police department than the collection of criminals and jerks it has.

Now, the city of Mesa is talking about using an old statute to impose felony charges against owners and managers of addresses/locations where crime is chronic. Want to guess what THAT means??? Like the bogus "SLUMLORD" act, which county attorney Rick Romley tried to use for his own, narrow political purposes, it is a SCAM, and for the same reasons. Property targeted will be that from which the local cliques can benefit most, as in: either taking OVER the properties, or eliminating competition, in order to press the already ridiculously high rents in this sweat shop environment EVEN HIGHER, to benefit to dozen or so families which actually own this filthy town. Want some addresses? Try 1414 East Dana Avenue, where a grand total of TWO adult residents are even in the U.S. legally, and there are at least FOUR drug dealers and considerable coyote activity. Try 44 S. Williams Street, where there have been 3-5 murders in the past 15 years, and at least seven drug busts...there seem to be six dealers active now, in 20 apartments. Try the area just East of Broadway and Gilbert, or anywhere or Doran Street, or the apartments on Stapley more-or-less anywhere south of Main Street. These are places where crack cocaine and marijuana are available, and often smoked right out in the open. Turn in by mistake, and one is frequently solicited by drug dealers. Two cops ON FOOT, undercover or not, could discover more crime in one night by accident than 200 driving around in police cruisers. Guess what? It will NEVER go that way. It isn't conducive to inflating the already-bloated personnel staff and budget of the local police department. 800+ cops, 500+ other police staff, and not ONE guy walking a beat, where it might ACTUALLY do some good. Does this surprise anyone? Thank you, Robert.

What you saw, Robert, is not a rarity. It is PRO FORMA... Mesa lives like this. It is a city which hides real crime, the cops are neck deep in it (and the corresponding kickbacks and coverups), and which draws happy faces on everything the tight little clique of power does. It is ugly and repulsive, and is destroying the town. It is, in fact, the reason I left. That and the city administration's open hostility to anyone who isn't in their tight little circle. I had my own business, and I simply folded it and left. They sent police to harass me, fooled with my various licenses, inferred at one point that my employees were dealing drugs on the premises (if they were, I never noticed, and they had no proof, and I was there every open moment), and just generally made life miserable. Too bad. Twenty years ago, it was a nice town. But I think the n**i filth who run the place feel their power slipping away as the Mormon population diminishes by percentage, and fight like rats to do ANYTHING to hang onto their power. Unfortunately, they have destroyed the police department completely. 800+ cops and 500 other employees, and if they have ten people who are competent, I would be absolutely amazed. If they have five who are honest, I would be even more startled.

Robert: I lived about a block from this place. I am leaving Mesa today, for good. Called "911" when one of the residents from there was trying to break in. I photographed him. Then I got my shotgun. Cops showed up an hour later. No action at all. They did chew me out and threatened to arrest me for "brandishing" my shotgun. These people are nuts. They are ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING the wholesale crime that flows from that strip of buildings and down on Doran Street. One or two cops on foot, a few hours a day, and some of this would just stop. It is so casual. Drug traffic, slavery, prostitution--the two I saw were maybe 12 years old--"coyote" operations, stolen cars and trucks, loud mariachi music, public drinking all the time, people peeing and even defecating right out in the open, all were so frequent here, it is sickening. The burglaries are kind of casual "walk-by" things. What in the HELL do they think they are doing? They never even offer excuses, beyond "We are Infallible". Well, they aren't even close.

Robert: This was before the suicide attempt over on Nielsen, the one where Mesa P.D. called in a SWAT team and basically invaded the house. That girl miscarried, didn't she? And wasn't it REALLY the word suicide, only, that got that ball rolling? You do know this huge coyote operation also moves huge amounts of heroin and coacine? And you do know it is sold here and on South Doran right out in the open? Ah, but don't drive there with a drink under your belt! Hell, no, that would be a crime! That same complex now fronts yet another coyote operation, even more malignant than the last one. Mesa P.D. knows all this. How much do you suppose they make keeping it going? Do you figure it is individual cops, or is Hutchinson himself gettting a piece of the action? I figure it's both. They'll give you the "not our jurisdiction" b.s., but of course, the hundreds of stolen c.d.'s and car radios and car parts sold out of there--not to mention the drugs and actual slavery--are generally considered within their venue of power. I think it is all about bank accounts, nothing more. So obvious!!!

Wasn't that the very same day the cop told you that neither public consumption of alcohol nor public intoxication was illegal?? What do you figure would have happened had they done the same things in a park next to a MORMON neighborhood? And did you know, at least four of the cars parked in the lot at the time were STOLEN??? This is why no one around here even bothers to call Mesa P.D. any more. They park their helo overhead, but I think this place was not made for Mormon feet. They are perhaps too delicate.

This is very common in Mesa. Rather than look into actual crimes, they prefer to poke around and make some up. It is easier, and not dangerous. I am a member of the LDS church myself. I am ashamed to say it, but a lot of the local politicians plan it this way, and they are from our religion. Why, I don't know. I always thought they were hiding some horrible truth and trying to assure their jobs. And they only care what "looks good" in the papers or their own reports. My brother ran a meth lab here for ten years, and even family members tried to turn him in. A couple of years ago, he got killed by one of his customers, who went crazy. This was all "hushed up". Their protecting him or whatever they were trying to do sure didn't help. I know for sure there is no point in doing anything about this. Call DEA maybe, but these guys don't even seem interested in crime. I guess it's because they do so much of it themselves.

This is very common in Mesa. Rather than look into actual crimes, they prefer to poke around and make some up. It is easier, and not dangerous. I am a member of the LDS church myself. I am ashamed to say it, but a lot of the local politicians plan it this way, and they are from our religion. Why, I don't know. I always thought they were hiding some horrible truth and trying to assure their jobs. And they only care what "looks good" in the papers or their own reports. My brother ran a meth lab here for ten years, and even family members tried to turn him in. A couple of years ago, he got killed by one of his customers, who went crazy. This was all "hushed up". Their protecting him or whatever they were trying to do sure didn't help. I know for sure there is no point in doing anything about this. Call DEA maybe, but these guys don't even seem interested in crime. I guess it's because they do so much of it themselves.

This is very common in Mesa. Rather than look into actual crimes, they prefer to poke around and make some up. It is easier, and not dangerous. I am a member of the LDS church myself. I am ashamed to say it, but a lot of the local politicians plan it this way, and they are from our religion. Why, I don't know. I always thought they were hiding some horrible truth and trying to assure their jobs. And they only care what "looks good" in the papers or their own reports. My brother ran a meth lab here for ten years, and even family members tried to turn him in. A couple of years ago, he got killed by one of his customers, who went crazy. This was all "hushed up". Their protecting him or whatever they were trying to do sure didn't help. I know for sure there is no point in doing anything about this. Call DEA maybe, but these guys don't even seem interested in crime. I guess it's because they do so much of it themselves.

Robert: I lived in that building at the same time. It was and IS way worse than you describe. Ironically, I got stopped outside the drive THAT VERY SAME NIGHT, WHILE ON FEDERAL DUTY, NO LESS...I had done nothing wrong, so I presume it was yet another "DWNM" ( DRIVING WHILE NOT MORMON), and I probably should have reported the sleazebags to Washington. And then I got home and, as you describe, there was a drug deal going down at my very door. Kind of like the old joke about cops and convenience stores, not being able to find one when you really need it, etc., except NOT FUNNY AT ALL. I recall when someone called about the fights that got blood all over my car. The participants in the fight never even got questioned, but they intended to question me FOR CLEANING THE BLOOD OFF MY CAR WITH DETERGENT AND BLEACH.... That was over a drug deal, too. So were the various shootings. I won't even call the locals any more. Waste of time! Same with the painfully loud mariachi music and gunshots and needles and people shooting up on what used to be the playground. Why bother? Effectively, Mesa has NO police department, unless you are rich and/or Mormon, and really, very little even then. The building has since changed hands and gotten much worse.